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Kurt Angle screws Vince

Cracker5000 said:
TNA is more fast paced than wwe and Angle is just going to injure himself badly.

what are you talking about?? dude, with tna he doesn't wrestle 24/7. he does some tapings and goes back to his family. really he'll have more time to rest and heal up. i have to say that it was a wise decision to go with tna considering that now he can have rest and relaxation from all the hurry of traveling. plus he can still do what he loves.
 
Kurt won't "kill himself" the TNA schedule is a cakewalk. They work like 3 days a month, literally. That will give him more than enough time with his family and to heal up. What he really needed a break from, more than anything, was that brutal WWE road schedule. The wrestling 5-6 nights a week and traveling al over the world and never seeing his wife crap. OH and also the fact that WWEs style is incredibaly predictable, boring and downright UNWATCHABLE at this point. Kurt stood out there. Its time for him to go on to a better place and have better matches.

Also, whats this "Kurt screwed Vince" crap? This is Vince McMahon you are talking about. He has screwed about 7,000,000,000,000 people in his career. I hope he is good and pissed. I'm sure J.R. and Vince are cryin themselves to sleep tonight, as are you WWE fans who are now realizing that TNA is creeping up on WWE and will soon take over as the top pro wrestling fed. Well, they actually already have.

AAAAAANGLLEEE AAAAAANNGGLLLEEEEEE!!!
;)
 
SixStrangSmoker said:
Kurt won't "kill himself" the TNA schedule is a cakewalk. They work like 3 days a month, literally. That will give him more than enough time with his family and to heal up. What he really needed a break from, more than anything, was that brutal WWE road schedule. The wrestling 5-6 nights a week and traveling al over the world and never seeing his wife crap. OH and also the fact that WWEs style is incredibaly predictable, boring and downright UNWATCHABLE at this point. Kurt stood out there. Its time for him to go on to a better place and have better matches.

Also, whats this "Kurt screwed Vince" crap? This is Vince McMahon you are talking about. He has screwed about 7,000,000,000,000 people in his career. I hope he is good and pissed. I'm sure J.R. and Vince are cryin themselves to sleep tonight, as are you WWE fans who are now realizing that TNA is creeping up on WWE and will soon take over as the top pro wrestling fed. Well, they actually already have.

AAAAAANGLLEEE AAAAAANNGGLLLEEEEEE!!!
;)

actually in comparison wwe is still at the top basically due to the fact that vince is a billionaire and tna probably hasn't gotten up that high yet. don't get me wrong, i'm starting to fall for tna myself. still though history has been known to repeat itself and you can't get away from the fact that wwe has stood the test of time. so basically, just don't count your chicks before they hatch.
 
ok i may be unpopular here, but if WWE releases Kurt, then he is free to go anywhere INCLUDING TNA, a good signing and will boost rating, if anyone screwed vince its himself!
 
ruge said:
But being held down by Triple H was a few years ago. Being held down by the main event talent (?) of the WWE right now is far far worse.

Hey, like John Cena or not, at least he is making the company money, that is more then I can say for Jarretts two tenure up in Stamford. If I was in Angles shoes I at least could comprehend why some one with piss poor in-ring talent, tremendous amount charisma that makes the boss tons of money is the Champion, and I am not. Jarrett, the proof is in the pudding, the guy has above average in-ring skills, zero charisma, and has never, will never draw the amount of money John Cena has. So if I had to choose between being held down by either Triple H, John Cena, or Jeff Jarrett, it sure as hell wouldn't be the latter
 
Why does everyone think he'll hurt himself? TNA tapes three weeks worth of iMPACT! at a time, and they're all filmed in Orlando, FL. So Kurt will be wrestling (at most) one day per month, and not travelling.
 
I'd like to see how well TNA uses someone as good as kurt angle, and how he goes along with the other wrestlers.

I can't even imagine it.
 
I knew Kurt Angle wouldn't just fade away into the shadows and retire. That's not his style at all. Kurt joining TNA isn't that surprising to me as wrestling is his life. I really hope Kurt does really well there.
 
SixStrangSmoker said:
OH and also the fact that WWEs style is incredibaly predictable, boring and downright UNWATCHABLE at this point.
;)

And what? TNA isn't? If people want to slam the WWE that is fine by me, I am not too particular fond of their product of as late, but I hate it when TNA Marks talk up TNA like that crap is any better. It is the same ol shit, X-Division Matches with sixty high spots that mean nothing, and Jarrett constantly winning The NWA Championship..

You want incredibaly predictable, here is incredibaly predictable. Three to Four Months after Angle debuts he will get the Jarrett World Transitional Championship, any where between 11 days to six months later Jarrett wins the title back. Rinse and repeat as many times as TNA "signs" a Former WWE Superstar that is going to shake up the industry, and will turn TNA around.
 
Why does everyone think he'll hurt himself? TNA tapes three weeks worth of iMPACT! at a time, and they're all filmed in Orlando, FL. So Kurt will be wrestling (at most) one day per month, and not travelling.

It only takes one seriously bad bump, or blown spot to screw you over. There is obviously a reason why WWE let him go, and if the reason is what I think it is, then well. This wasn't a Spike Dudley that they let go, Kurt is easily in their Top Ten. There had to be a damn good reason why they fired his ass, I mean not everything is honky dory, if that was the case Kurt would be ECW Champion right now, instead of Big Sloth.
 
I think everybody is missing the point that Vince and Kurt are highly intelligent men and BOTH know that one day they will work together again.
We all love wrestling and I think the one thing that we CAN ALL AGREE on in this business is the credo, "Never Say Never"!!

NOTHING surprises me about this business anymore. That's not to say, I see swerves coming or big signings go down, I simply mean that anything is possible in this entertaining business we all are so passionate about!!

Join me now.......

I'd like to teach the world to sing..........what?.......too old?
Ebony and Ivory, live together in per..........still too old?

Well, you get my point!!
 
Oh, I agree with you Mindseye, I have no doubt Vince and Kurt will work together again down the line. In fact that is a given, I mean hell Hogan "screwed Vince" and Stone Cold has "Screwed Vince." in the past and they still managed to do business with Vince. It is just when and if Angle comes back he is going to start from scratch, I don't think his return to WWE will be like his debut with the company where he had everything handed to him with in a year.
 
When i saw this i was like holy shit...... I never marked out like that since ever.......Im happy for TNA And Kurt cause this will deffo get TNA some more viewers...... And Kurt can be offered somethin' different besides doin' tha same old shit in WWE....... Now Kurt can have some awesome match with tha likes of Sting, Christian, Samoa Joe, AJ Styles and he can now attempt to win tha greatest title in Wrestlin' NWA Championship....... But i do wonder how this is gonna affect Kurt's place in WWE HOF now....... And i bet in years to come Vince will bring out tha Self Destruction Of Kurt Angle DVD jus' out of spite.... Oh And It's True, Its Damn True TNA TNA TNA TNA TNA TNA TNA TNA
 
Colesey_4_Life said:
But i do wonder how this is gonna affect Kurt's place in WWE HOF now....... And i bet in years to come Vince will bring out tha Self Destruction Of Kurt Angle DVD jus' out of spite....

Ask Bret and Hogan how it affected their chances at the Hall of Fame........hell, even Savage will be there one day, probably holding plaques beside Bruno and Backlund.

Vince makes money off of DVD's about these guys. This is one more chapter to add to the Kurt Angle Story. Ooooo, controversy!! Vince is already setting aside the archival footage for Kurt's DVD.

I wonder if they're taking any prebookings?
 
Kurt Angle is selfish. the only reason he jumped ship is because he wasn't getting the title in ECW and wasn;t at the current time their top star. Everyone said how bad he was in the locker room always requesting more air time. He gets what he wants in TNA. He is the number one star. No doubt he will have the belt as soon as the 90 day period is up.
 
Cboogie said:
True? or False? I don't know, but this is where I got my info from. Well after reading it again Vince doesn't say it, but its mention a couple of times.

From the PWTorch newsletter:

Dave Hawk and Kurt Angle met with WWE officials last Friday morning, and Angle was told that he needed to get help for his prescription painkiller addictions. They told him to go to rehab and then return to the company once he was clean, which is something they've done for tons of other men throughout the years. Angle, despite the story that was weaved on WWE.com and in the press releases, does not believe he has an issue with painkillers, and so he flat-out refused to go to rehab or seek any kind of help whatsoever.

Vince McMahon then fired him. It was not a release, nor a mutual agreement. Angle refused to get treatment for his illness, so Vince was left with the only real option the company had at that point, which was to fire him. Whether it was to send a message or to protect the interests of the company or Angle himself, the end result is that Angle was released from his job. His no-compete clause remains in effect and will expire near the end of November.

Kurt Angle is not going to rehab, and he's not going home to let his body heal up. He'll probably go rest for three months or so, because at that point his no compete clause expires and WWE officials expect him to sign a contract with TNA. In fact, WWE officials actually encourage him to go to TNA, because he'll be working a much more limited scheduled, and the lack of house show tours will allow him to greatly rest up between shows. He'll make $500,000 or so per year to wrestle 5 times per month, and WWE sources believe that he can get his pain levels back down to a manageable level by working for the smaller promotion. There are also those in WWE that believe that Vince McMahon actually WANTS Angle to go and work for TNA, because he's apparently realized in this very late mid-life crisis he's currently enduring that he's a much better businessman and much more creatively inclined when he actually has competition to try and defeat. By signing Angle and perhaps Bill Goldberg, TNA would earn themselves a bigger place on the map and could perhaps instantly jump to that two-hour timeslot they so desire.

My TNA source tells me that they're a bit hesitant to sign Kurt, but that it's already being discussed internally. They realize that if they bring in the incredibly damaged Angle, they're going to need built-in safeties in his contract to help him avoid getting to the point he was at near the end of his WWE run. If TNA does eventually tour, Kurt Angle will likely not be on a majority of those house shows and instead will stick to the television shows and pay per view events. Since he'll instantly be the biggest star in the company, they will be able to market him as a special attraction much the way WWE does with Undertaker, thereby giving him more time to heal, reduce his addictive need for painkillers, and perhaps extend his career (and his life) by many years.

Some have speculated that Angle will go to Japan, but that's not even a remote possibility at this point. In order to make big money in Japan, you have to do shoots and fight with Pride or K1, and Angle will do neither of those. There's a small chance that New Japan or another of the big three major promotions will overpay for his services, but sources close to the situation say they don't see it happening because the rigors of a months-long Japanese tour will kill him even faster than the WWE schedule was. In all likelihood, we'll see Kurt Angle make his TNA debut sometime around November 27, a few weeks after his WWE no-compete clause expires- got this from another thread
Not sure if its true though


There's one thing about this that makes me think. It says here that there are those in WWE that think Vince is actually ENCOURAGING Kurt Angle to go to TNA because he realizes that he's a much better businessman and more creatively inclined when he's in competition. It would also give Kurt some time off I guess from the WWE schedule without having to completely give up wrestling. I don't know.....there's just something fishy about this. I'm STILL not convinced that Kurt Angle LIED or SCREWED McMahon....I don't think that's the case here. I don't think this was done to get back at anybody.....I really believe that Angle and McMahon think this is both for the better.....and I really think that Angle's plan to make an impact in TNA is only a shorter-term plan while I believe the long term would be for Angle to eventually come back to the WWE just as Jeff Hardy and Shannon Moore did. I believe this to be the case with Christian Cage as well now that I think about it.

I really don't think that either of those guys completely turned their backs on WWE....I think they have a whole other agenda. It would make a hell of alot more sense to me if this were the case.
 
HeartBreakKid said:
Kurt Angle is selfish. the only reason he jumped ship is because he wasn't getting the title in ECW and wasn;t at the current time their top star. Everyone said how bad he was in the locker room always requesting more air time. He gets what he wants in TNA. He is the number one star. No doubt he will have the belt as soon as the 90 day period is up.

Kurt wants to be wrestling and TNA offers him the best chance of that. He isn't going to be able to wrestle sitting at home twiddling his thumbs while lamenting his bad luck. I just hope it works out for him.
 
I would've thought Angle would've tried to save his marriage instead of immediately signing with another pro-wrestling company. In my honest opinion, there's never been anyone as intense and athletic as Angle in-ring, he was the whole package and I'm pretty pissed at TNA for signing him. I don't know how to get TNA in the UK. I can't believe they didn't think "what about that one guy in England? Doesn't he have the right to watch Angle on WWE?". Just goes to show what inconsiderate arseh*les these guys are, eh?
 
I have said it before: great move by TNA, dumb move by WWE and dumb move Kurt Angle. The man needs some rest before competing again. He's going to end up dying in the middle of some freaky 6 sided ring. I'm upset and kind of happy with this kurt thing. He shouldn't have left the company like this but he needs to realize when he needs time off. Hopefully he doesn't wrestle right away.
 
i love this move by Angle. hopefully he goes in and cleans house until he comes face to face with Samoa Joe. TNA is starting to come around and i do think more wrestlers are gonna follow Angle's steps.
 
JKO said:
Ok outta all the the ex-wwe stars who have went to TNA has any of them kept there music.....the answer is no you imbecile...

i hope they keep the olympian theme and not go wit some crazy bs them that half the stars have
That theme song actually wasn't even Angle's to begin with. It was Del Wilkes' (The Patriot) theme song back in 1997. They'll probably focus on giving Angle the best new music they can.
 
I think I might have an answer on the whole "90 day clause" scenario. Is it just me, or is the "Nov. 19th" date right at the 90-day mark for the non-compete to expire? It seems as if TNA used the proposed hiring of Kurt Angle as leverage to push for the one-time 2-hour show and the "unveiling" of Angle. I think that TNA could get away with an angle of "signing" Kurt without actually adding ink to a contract to get around any WWE complications.

Also, I agree that the TNA move might be a good thing for Angle, personally. He should be able to rest up and still do what he loves to do. After all, he would only have to wrestle once a month, twice tops. I would be willing to bet that the first month or so would be primarily run-ins and promos, anyway.

Thoughts?
 

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