Kane...What happened?

[Mantard]

I'd say it has to be one of the last three, but for the hell of it I'll try disproving the possibility of each:

Vince: Let's go back to last year. He "died," and it was all over WWE. Everyone was in "mourning," they tried to make the shows somber and downtrodden, etc etc. This year, it's just kinda Steph sayin "Okay everybody, hold hands. No pushing. This is a sad time." Plus, unless Vince died of spinal complications later, he was clearly alive (and screaming like a banshee) when RAW went off that night. So okay.

Undertaker: I'd assume Kane has a TV, and watched ONS (considering he was the poster boy, but of course not IN it). Undertaker didn't die (although after some of the bumps I'm surprised), he just kinda... had to leave. Yup.

Paul Bearer: Unless this is an election year for bringing back stars, it seems odd that four years later Kane randomly flips and remembers "that guy Paul." Call me crazy, but if I would be concerned about someone buried in cement, it wouldn't take me four years. Good luck getting him out Kane: It doesn't take cement four years to dry. Also, WWE said he was just "injured," not dead.

So really, I have no idea. These three seem the most logical, and yet very unlikely.

 

[Joaquim Akaem]

This is my theory......
WWE probabally wants the mystery person to be a suprise, right?
So they have pretty much just given us a list of the people who it is NOT going to be.

Now I don't have a better idea as to who it is... Paul Bearer never crossed my mind, Vince... most likley, but too obvious, Kane would have just said "is Mcmahon alive or dead". if it was him. and Taker, was "banished" from the entire WWE just a short month ago.

It must just be a random unknown person with some link to an unexplained fictional event in Kanes past. Kanes storylines don't make the most sense as it is, the whole May 19th angle was super hyped and was just a massive letdown.

 

[streicher187]

Maybe he is talking about himself, The OLD cane with the mask who was a monster.

I HOPE he's not talking about his character in the movie he played and this is a way to get promotion going for a second movie...

 

[snidercrs]

I have got say that I am leaning towards Paul Bearer as the answer to this debocale. If you check out Paul B's website www.percypringle.com, he has posted a giant question mark on the page and it says "kayfabe is still alive...But is Paul Bearer." Even if it turns out not to be him, he is at least playing the game.

 

[Sedated]

I have got say that I am leaning towards Paul Bearer as the answer to this debocale. If you check out Paul B's website www.percypringle.com, he has posted a giant question mark on the page and it says "kayfabe is still alive...But is Paul Bearer." Even if it turns out not to be him, he is at least playing the game.

That seems to be a answer to people talking about Vince screaming for "Paul" w/ the original thought being he was talking to HHH. Based on his latest comment it would leave you to believe Kane was in fact talking about Paul Bearer. The only question now is if he's just having some fun playing along/messing with us or if something big could possibly come of this. My money is still on that he's talking about Vince but i'm hoping for more.

 

[Razz]

I hope this angle somehow involves Kane going back to his mask again, that would be great. It was kind of odd when he first unmasked and had all these fake burns and things on his face, they soon disappeared and I don't think they explained it. Maybe even he can get a new mask and attire. I think the current persona of Kane has gotten a little stale.

 

[slickman123]

i have always been puzzled why the wwe stuck kane in the mid card? i mean batista isnt amazing in the ring yet he is put in main event after main event! kane is a very underated performer and one of the better big men in the history of the w.w.e and Seriously has anyone ever played the monster physco role better then kane?????? hell he was so good at it he got his own dam movie! i may be grown up teenager but kane can still scare the shit out of me whens hes a physco remoresless monster! hopefully this is where the wwe is going with his character!

 

[andymcg]

Jesus wat to say .... first off well done to wwe for FINALLY givin the fans a storyline were we cant see the outcome within a few days.

ive been doing alot of thinking over this storyline and have come up with a few general ideas , possible ideas n completly out of the box ideas. First up heres the general ideas.

vince - well this hus bonus and bad point. the stage collapsed yes but why would kane do this ? could it be the undertaker geting back at vince for something or the wwe and he is using kane as a puppet to get his job back ? only thing is we all know vince didnt die on that night but kane could be geting frustrated that shane n steph arent given out info.

paul bearer - seen a few people mention that vince was shouting for "paul" when the stage collapsed. could it be he seen paul bearer n kane somehow found out ?

undertaker - well his brother has been banished from wwe and isnt actually "dead" but could kanes mind be weaving in and out and hes thinking he may be dead ?

NOW ONTO 50/50 POSSIBILTIES

shane n steph - there my second thoughts. shane would know how to get into kanes head after the years of fueding with him. could they have used kane to take out there dad but then turned on him for some reason ?

himself - could he be shouting at himself about is the "real" destructive kane still alive or dead within him ?

NOW IDEAS WAY OUT THE BOX

paul HEYMAN - yes thats write u read that proper. i no heyman hates wwe and vince isnt keen on him either but at this time it looks like vince would do anything to get the rateings up. ofcourse vince was saying "paul" when the stage collapsed , miby screaming for him to come save the wwe in a way. ofcourse heyman has recently said he doesnt want anything to do with wrestling but as someone mentioned matt hardy denyed everything to do with wwe before returning.

jacob goodnight - well for use who have seen his movie "See No Evil" am sure use no who he is. its the charcter that kane potrays in the movie. could he be trying to get that charcter out of himself in asking if he is dead or alive ?

now also id like to add kane started on michael cole first , which would suggest cole may have been there when this person "died". cole was there when taker was banished but was also there when bearer was crypted in the cement (4 years ago at funnily enough the great american bash). heyman was also there as it was him that made undertaker do it so that is why i think he could have somthing to do with it.

bottom line is who noes , the possibilties are endless and for the first time in a long long time wwe are given us a storyline were NOONE at this moment in time can figure it out. my favourites lie with bearer to be the one kane is on about. we all know his minds manageled so it could have taken his 4 years to want to find out about bearer and it was 4 years to the great american bash he was crypted in cement.

 

[Derf]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and guess that the person involved is someone new, someone none of us have ever heard of. It's going to be a way for Kane to introduce a new charecter, some monster heal, or somthing like that. Kane has tried several times in the past few years to go Heal, and they've all failed. Some onster heal is gonna begin a feud with kane, and thats all she wrote.


That, or Vince is gonna give the rub to Kane as a way to push him to the ME again, just like Lashley and Horny lol

 

[locoxmw]

Dude vince was aying "paul" becuase he was talkin to triple h..."paul i cant feel my legs" hense triple hs real name...he wanted to make it look real like he was hurt...and kane i think hes saying...is he dead or alive becuase...is taker returning as the deadman...or american badass(alive) or jacob goodnight for a sequal to see no evil...like hear no evil. or speak no evil....thats be cool

Jesus wat to say .... first off well done to wwe for FINALLY givin the fans a storyline were we cant see the outcome within a few days.

ive been doing alot of thinking over this storyline and have come up with a few general ideas , possible ideas n completly out of the box ideas. First up heres the general ideas.

vince - well this hus bonus and bad point. the stage collapsed yes but why would kane do this ? could it be the undertaker geting back at vince for something or the wwe and he is using kane as a puppet to get his job back ? only thing is we all know vince didnt die on that night but kane could be geting frustrated that shane n steph arent given out info.

paul bearer - seen a few people mention that vince was shouting for "paul" when the stage collapsed. could it be he seen paul bearer n kane somehow found out ?

undertaker - well his brother has been banished from wwe and isnt actually "dead" but could kanes mind be weaving in and out and hes thinking he may be dead ?

NOW ONTO 50/50 POSSIBILTIES

shane n steph - there my second thoughts. shane would know how to get into kanes head after the years of fueding with him. could they have used kane to take out there dad but then turned on him for some reason ?

himself - could he be shouting at himself about is the "real" destructive kane still alive or dead within him ?

NOW IDEAS WAY OUT THE BOX

paul HEYMAN - yes thats write u read that proper. i no heyman hates wwe and vince isnt keen on him either but at this time it looks like vince would do anything to get the rateings up. ofcourse vince was saying "paul" when the stage collapsed , miby screaming for him to come save the wwe in a way. ofcourse heyman has recently said he doesnt want anything to do with wrestling but as someone mentioned matt hardy denyed everything to do with wwe before returning.

jacob goodnight - well for use who have seen his movie "See No Evil" am sure use no who he is. its the charcter that kane potrays in the movie. could he be trying to get that charcter out of himself in asking if he is dead or alive ?

now also id like to add kane started on michael cole first , which would suggest cole may have been there when this person "died". cole was there when taker was banished but was also there when bearer was crypted in the cement (4 years ago at funnily enough the great american bash). heyman was also there as it was him that made undertaker do it so that is why i think he could have somthing to do with it.

bottom line is who noes , the possibilties are endless and for the first time in a long long time wwe are given us a storyline were NOONE at this moment in time can figure it out. my favourites lie with bearer to be the one kane is on about. we all know his minds manageled so it could have taken his 4 years to want to find out about bearer and it was 4 years to the great american bash he was crypted in cement.

 

[Highway Boots]

I know this may seem tasteless but Vince has been known to pull some extremely tasteless stunts over the years so I wouldn't discount ANYTHING wrestling related

This could be one of the biggest "wool over the eyes" moments in all of TV but it could be be one of two people and that is Eddie Guerrero

It's just crazy enough for this to work. I would hope that it isn't one of these 2 for the sake of our sanity but Vince is just twisted enough to try and pull just this sort of stunt.

After all Vickie is about to "marry" Edge almost 3 years after Eddie's death. It would be a prime time for him to show up and put a stop to it.

God, I hope I am wrong, but as I said before, Vince is twisted enough to do something like this.

 

[ironman666]

Im really leaning towards undertaker as being who kane is referring to, but remember with y2j on ecw? Tazz said something to the effect of i don't know what that was about but you better tune in to monday night raw to find out and bam y2j comes back with a huge entrance. Now that was going on for months before wwe revealed what the messages meant even though the meaning was obvious. i don't think that this will come to a head on raw tonight but the bash is right around the corner and some light may be shed on the situation. Here's why the taker return storyline makes sense. is he live or dead? Is he returning or gone? He may be wondering about his brothers future. Now as long as wwe has thrown captain america out there... is he live or dead? has he thoughts within his head? We'll just pass him there Why should we even care?-iron man
that seems far fetched but who knows the theme of that song could feed into kanes monser persona If this is a vince mcmahon storyline it really needs to be better than the exploding limo and illegitimate child angles


a lot of possibilities but i think we just need to wait for raw tonight and with the bash right around the corner things should start picking up soon

 

[simeon63]

I believe Kane is referring to Paul Bearer, the storyline is Steph and Shane were upset about Vince giving away millions, so they forced Kane to do these acts against Vince, and they have told Kane they are holding Paul prisoner until the job is complete.

 

[Jappa121]

I know this may seem tasteless but Vince has been known to pull some extremely tasteless stunts over the years so I wouldn't discount ANYTHING wrestling related

This could be one of the biggest "wool over the eyes" moments in all of TV but it could be be one of two people and that is Eddie Guerrero

It's just crazy enough for this to work. I would hope that it isn't one of these 2 for the sake of our sanity but Vince is just twisted enough to try and pull just this sort of stunt.

After all Vickie is about to "marry" Edge almost 3 years after Eddie's death. It would be a prime time for him to show up and put a stop to it.

God, I hope I am wrong, but as I said before, Vince is twisted enough to do something like this.

Are you Implying Eddie Guerrero isnt dead? Thatd be insane, But I doubt the WWE would do that or even be able to pull it off. There was a part of me deep down inside that was thinking about something like that, but I was pretty sure it wasnt benoit and I'm pretty sure Eddie is dead to, is there anyone else who might have "Died". I doubt that this is what is going to happen but its fun to think about

 

[buckfast67uk]

Are you Implying Eddie Guerrero isnt dead?

holy shit!


There are two clear possibilities here.

Vince McMahon and the Undertaker.

But neither are currently assumed to be "dead" kaypabe or not so i don't quite get what the writers are meaning here if either is the case. That's where Paul Bearer seems more appropriate.

It'd be pretty awesome to have Bearer back, Kane masked again and turn into an indestructable heel again

 

[Antleader]

So, is it possible that Kane has in his bag tonight the mask that he stole from the impostor Kane a few years ago. The story line was dropped for some reason. The impostor Kane is who is now Festus, Festus was in essence possibly taken out of action by Edge and his guys. So is it possible that the Impostor Kane story line is coming back.

 

[johnnywalker85]

We're obviously about to find out, but I'd bet a large sum of money that it's his mask. The shape of whatever's in the bag -- couldn't be a weapon, couldn't be much else. It could be a contract on a clip board or something, though I don't know what the contract would entail (maybe the Undertaker's contract). I think it's his mask, though. He's turning into a monster for the umteenth time.

So, is it possible that Kane has in his bag tonight the mask that he stole from the impostor Kane a few years ago. The story line was dropped for some reason. The impostor Kane is who is now Festus, Festus was in essence possibly taken out of action by Edge and his guys. So is it possible that the Impostor Kane story line is coming back.

Not that the WWE is against driving terrible storylines into the ground, but I doubt that such a weak and lackluster angle like the Imposter Kane story would be re-introduced. I could be totally wrong, though.

OK, Punk just won so let's see what happens.

 

[Tastycles]

I think the bag looked as it it had something flaccid inside it. The mask is the obvious choice, but as much as I want it to happen, and even though I thought it at one stage, I can't see a return to a masked Kane. In an earlier post I said that Kane was better as a masked enigma, and I've since realised that it was the enigma part that was interesting - I wanted to know what this mans horrific scars, that were so bad he'd been masked all of his life, really looked like. But now I know, I can't see how a masked Kane would be interesting.

I think one things for certain though, which is that whoever Kane is talking about, he will almost certainly be alive, as it would be a bit of a crap feud if he wasn't, although watching him fight a corpse is better than finding out how he raped one.

 

[tokenjew22]

After seeing the end of RAW tonight, it led me to the conclusions of:


Either Kane is talking about himself; He NEEDS this match to prove to himself he still has it in him to compete for the main event spots the wrestling world today.....

or

This is a stretch, but maybe Kane can see the future or something CRAZY like that. Cena could have possibly been "killed" after the car deal with JbL tonight.
Could Kane be referring to John Cena?

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

New census: Kane is talking about himself is the first choice.

What's in the bag: Its either the mask (my preference), the hook (I hope not), or its Marcellus Wallace's soul from the briefcase in Pulp Fiction haha.

Did anyone else notice that Kane seems to be letting his hair grow lately? Its not much at all, but its more than its been for a while. Maybe that's a good sign that he'll be putting the mask on and starting to get that full head of hair again lol.

98 Kane was the man. 2008 Kane doesn't measure up to it. Maybe we'll get a compromise.

 

[DeadmanInc.]

Well judging by the bag, it seems that Kane is talking about himself, or rather his former self. Maybe he's frustrated that he is no longer winning matches or feared like he once was. The commentators really emphasized the Jekyll-Hyde nature of Kane tonight, which leads me further to believe that he is referring to Masked Kane.

Who knows? They tried the Masked Kane angle before and it flopped the first time. But then again, so did the McMahon death angle yet they're trying it again. Maybe this is their attempt to continue where the Imposter Kane angle left off? The angle abruptly ended when Kane stole Imposter Kane's mask and said "I believe this is mine".



As for the Cena thing, I seriously hope not. WWE better not think we're dumb enough to believe that Cena was actually hit by the car (when the camera angle clearly showed that Cena moved). Dead or alive? There's no question when he clearly wasn't hit.

 

[Skullz Crack'Em]

After seeing the end of RAW tonight, it led me to the conclusions of:


Either Kane is talking about himself; He NEEDS this match to prove to himself he still has it in him to compete for the main event spots the wrestling world today.....

or

This is a stretch, but maybe Kane can see the future or something CRAZY like that. Cena could have possibly been "killed" after the car deal with JbL tonight.
Could Kane be referring to John Cena?

This may very well be the answer. It sounds crazy, but this is the WWE, so anything is possible, Kane probably can see into the future. Tonight he may have had a vision of losing to CM Punk by a Count-Out, so he challenged Punk to "prove" to himself that he can see the future. After his prediction came true, he freaked and went berzerk, because he now realizes that his destiny is to wear his mask once again(the only way to explain the Mystery Bag at the moment). It is a stretch, but it does make sense with what we were given so far in the last two weeks, with Cena being the one he referred to as "Alive or Dead"?

 

[simeon63]

Man think someone hit on this much earlier, it is about the character he played in the movie see no Evil. I believe the burlap bag is holding that hook thing his character used. Maybe a part two is slated to be filmed.

 

[streicher187]

It won't happen but would be sweet if the bag was an ode to Jake the Snake. If he was looking for Jake(or jake has been guiding him).. And Jake returns as his manager. I guess he is clean now after WWE paid for his rehab and a monster Kane being controlled by the snake would make for a great character..

GOD I hope he wasn't referring to the Warrior (since a lot of people think he's dead)..

 

[Razz]

Wow so many crazy ideas posted, some of them very good interesting and funny. I posted a few days earlier in this thread that I hoped this would lead Kane back to a masked version with a possible new look and attire. Now him coming out with the paper bag is very interesting...I just hope this does not turn out to be something really lame. And the Eddie Guerrero thing would be incredible, but come on Eddie Guerrero is dead, there is no way he would be covered in the media and everything like that and go to the Hall of Fame and go into hiding perfectly like that lol...