WORD FORT WARNING: If you aren't in for the haul, better back out now.
So, why couldn't you intelligently state why Mayweather/Mosley was a good fight from your point of view without threatening people? Nobody was "poking you with a stick". Nobody's intention was to bait you into flaming with that thread. Nobody was pushing you around.
So please, give us that much, and don't threaten to put me in the ICU this time, sweetie.
Firstly, I didn't threaten you or anyone. I told you what would happen to you if you came around these parts trying to talk to people the way you all were talking to me, and it would lead to ICU, I see it all the time and they get away with it. You know why? Because sometimes people deserve it, and the cops around here know that is how it works, and that you don't get it unless you do deserve it. Disrespecting someone in the fashion you all were with me, wouldn't even require my action as I said, other people would do it for me, I don't have to lift a finger, I've got it like that.
That kind of shit means something around here, you don't talk shit to people who can have your ass anytime they want. You treat people a certain way or they teach you a lesson. My guess is a lot of these folks would be scared shitless trying to walk my streets, and if they made the wrong move, they wouldn't be here very long. Des Moines might not be L.A. or N.Y. where they all claim it's so gangster but people don't fuck around here. You say the wrong thing, give the wrong look to someone even in traffic your fucked. They'll follow you to wherever you are going and beat the hell out of you even if it's your own front yard.
People here don't give a fuck about doing jail time to teach someone a lesson. Unless that jail time is life, your getting out and if the person who put you there is still around, they'll get it again until they learn. It's either put up or shut up, and the mouths these guys have on them would have them in scenarios they don't even want to deal with. I've done it, I've fought my way through trying to be a nice passive guy, but I am a big guy, and people always want to show how tough they are by trying to beat up the big guy. Well, this big guy has dealt them all a hand they couldn't play, I've been down but never out, and I've never lost a fight. I've taken everyone to task who ever came my way and thought they were going to disrespect me, and guess what? People don't do it anymore, they learned. I don't talk shit to anyone out here, I don't have to, they just know. Even strangers, they see me, they get out of way. I'm sorry but when you get that kind of respect on the streets, and then go to getting little to none here, it's a little infuriating.
The truth is, is wasn't all just that conversation it was many over a period of time, and not just on Boxing and MMA. Why couldn't I state intelligently why the fight was good? Because as was so very apparent from the responses prior to my own nobody wanted to hear that, their minds were made up, and as fast as anyone could it turned into "MMA is better than Boxing" with people just disrespecting the athletes because of this bias. That alone was infuriating enough, then when compounded with everything else it was just too much.
It's the negativity man. I can't stand it. Why do so many of you have to hate so much and so many things. Like I said before, I don't go into mma discussions and just say "Yeah these guys suck at life and the sport sucks too" No. When it comes to the discussion of MMA vs Boxing everyone knows where I stand, I'm a boxing purist and loyalist, to me it's one of the most beautiful things in the world, it's something that's apart of me and that I love. So why would I not be upset when people tear down what I love? Think of anything you can say you love, and tell me if groups of people were just downing it constantly you wouldn't get tired of it and blow your top at some point too? We're all human, and you can't deny that's exactly what would happen, especially if it was something that meant so much to you.
Like I said as well, it wasn't just that conversation it was many. For instance I saw that new guy Twist doing everything he could to try and defend his beliefs and just get bombarded with hateful responses towards him, and why? Because he has faith in something and they don't like it? To tear him and his beliefs down? Just to be hateful and nasty? What's right about that? How are you to respond to all that?
Why do you think I make these word forts? So that I can attempt to respond to everything people say, but the more that is thrown at me, the more I have to respond to. It figured that as soon as everyone else turned on me, even my own friend in real life Fuel, so did Twist, probably just to avoid further torment, but what good did that do him in the long run? I saw him getting beaten for his beliefs, myself, and anyone else who would say anything contrary to what some of these people who think their word supersedes all did. You(not necessarily you specifically) don't want a conversation or a debate, you want to whip someone for not believing the same as you and what you deem as right or wrong. After seeing enough of it, it was enough. That's is what I mean by poking the lion with a stick. You can't just degrade someones beliefs and who they are over and over and over and think it's ok or that no one is going to say anything or call you on it.
I wasn't trying to threaten anyone either. I was making a point. People talk a lot of shit on here to others that they disagree with like they are going to beat their asses for disagreeing with them, that's the tone of their words. I said and stand by that if it were a face to face conversation these people who are normally so bold would suddenly not be, why? Because you'd know if you went too far there is going to be a consequence because you don't talk to people like that and expect to get away with it. The difference though is that this is the internet and they can to a degree and so they do which really pissed me off. It's like this: you wouldn't dare be so bold and hateful to my face because that would definitely warrant an ass beating, so don't do it here just because you think you can get away with it. That's what bitches do, I won't say anything to you here I am not willing to say to you in person, and I expect you to do the same.
You're still cool in my book, Game. Just wish you wouldn't blow up like you do, man. Shit's really not all that serious.
And it's a shame you pulled this when you did, since we're having perhaps the best boxing discussion we've had yet in the MMA/Boxing Section. Would have loved to seen you be able to add your two cents to it.
Thank you. None of that was really aimed at you anyways I wanted you to know that, your one of the only people here I've been able to "click with" I guess you could say. It seems like there is a mutual respect between the two of us, and I will maintain that as long as you do.
Trust me, I don't want to blow up. I don't want to do those things. I just gave them what they wanted, and foolishly so. I never said I was perfect or don't make mistakes. But I also won't be walked all over, talked down to, and treated like shit by anyone let alone a group. I've dealt with that in real life far more than my share, and I will be damned before I deal with it on the fucking internet.
I realize it's not supposed to be all that serious, but when people are making serious statements about you or the things you love the things that matter to you and are apart of you, that's when it gets real and when it gets serious. The other thing is that often times at least where I am involved, it is very serious, specifically the Cigar Lounge area. When people get to saying really serious hateful things towards you and anything you say, regardless of what you say, how are you not to be frustrated, offended, and even highly angry? I am not saying that means do what I did, freak out, and pay for it. But by God there has to be a point, there has to be a limit, some place where you say "I have taken all I can, and I can't take anymore."
Yes. I expected you, and rightfully so, to act like an adult and not throw your toys out of the fucking pram. You're down here for housebreaking, and you deserve it.
Maybe so, but I'm not the only one. There are plenty of them who do worse daily, many of you just don't see it that way because you are never the recipients of it all. If it were you constantly under attack for anything and everything you say, no matter how reasonable, how fair, or how peaceful you try to be, they don't want that. They want to let you know they don't respect you, your thoughts, your beliefs, or anything else. They just want to whip you for having the courage to stand for yourself, and expect you to just shut up when they say so. If you don't and often times before it comes to that, it's just calling you any stereotype possible, and unkind name they can think of, and all because maybe you don't see things their way and your just completely wrong about everything according to them. Your just stupid for believing what you believe and it's because they said so. Ok, so that's how it works? Nice. Ring me when you get a heart and a clue (not you per-say but "They" as in the majority"
So, do I have to put my dukes up or have you finally figured out how to conduct yourself like a civilized person?
I always try to conduct myself like a civilized person. I'm not the one you need to be talking to, it's the fucking hyenas out there who push people like me to freak out because their bullshit never stops, and no one ever does anything about it. Most of the time it's you the Mods, and the ass sucks trying to become one or trying to be "IN" like Via Armbar and ZeroVX. The one that really chaps my ass is Xfearbefore(yeah I remember) who talks so condescendingly to any and all, and doesn't come out unless it's to belittle someone and tell them how worthless they are. Ya know what, he's the one who's worthless because that's what drives him, that's what he's about. He gets his kicks from treating people like dirt and trying to make them feel as small and insignificant as he can. That seems to be his only skill as I have seen it, but it's not like anyone is going to say anything to him or put him in his place. He's one of the "Chosen" one of the "Untouchables" who seems to have that privileged. Justify it any way you want it makes the staff look bad, it makes Wrestlezone look bad, and he's apparently too dumb to see that above all it makes him look bad.
I realize what I did makes me look no better, but I'm willing to sacrifice anything to make my point clear, that's because my beliefs and my convictions aren't hollow like many of these other people who just hate to hate, and argue to argue.
Your Dukes will not be necessary.
I would only like to know one thing: when do you plan on calling someone "Kojak" again?
Well guess what Kojack, you won't have to wait very long. you've been one of my main harassers and that's exactly what it is. Remember telling everyone to just put me on their ignore list and offering them green rep for doing it, and all the shit you talked about me? It confounds me how the behavioral standards for the Mods seems to be so low, as you all seem to have free reign to treat people any way you want, say anything you want about them, and brow beat them for not being "The All-Knowing Masters of the Universe" you all are apparently. But, then when someone like myself calls "Bullshit" I'm a pussy, I'm a bitch, I'm pathetic, I'm a shitty poster, I'm overrated, I'm a cry baby, I'm whining, and on and on and on and on until you've sullied my name all you can and got your fill from it. It gets old just like garbage, and stinks just as much when it does. I stand for what's right, period, and the way shit goes on around here 90% of the time isn't right. I'm not just crying about how unfair everyone is to me, it's far more than that and you could only wish it were as shallow as that. It's the people who I see come and try to include themselves, try to be apart of the group, and get slapped around for it. It's not just me, it's a lot of people. I'm just the only one with the balls to say it and call anyone out about it, you can put that in stone.