Judgment Day: WWE Championship: Orton vs Batista
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Sinclair101
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my predictions for the Orton v Batista match is we're going to see the return of Triple H to take out Orton after a ref bump only for the ref to wake up and see Hunter attacking Orton ending the match in a DQ... i don't think Batista will be getting the belt back any time soon i think orton is going to have a long fued probably untill summerslam or even mania next year... who knows...
and i also predict that the smackdown main event for the title is going to be Edge v Jeff Hardy now that Matt has a broken hand.
and i also predict that the smackdown main event for the title is going to be Edge v Jeff Hardy now that Matt has a broken hand.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
i'm thinkin the match ends in a dq. while legacy beats down batista, triple h hits the ring. the ring clears and as hunter stares orton down, he "swerves" and pedigrees batista. just a thought.
TwistofRKO
The Legend Killer himself
Orton has to retain, so like others I expect a heelish victory or interference involved. These two actually worked well together at Armageddon so they should be able to build on their last match with each other.
Orton, Batista, Cena & Triple H are a a quartet that just don't intrest me at all. Matches with one of them against a wrestler I like, but matches like this are worse.
They had the match at Armageddon, it was ok. There's still plenty to do between them so I'm not complaining too much. I just hope the Smackdown match intrests me more.
I think the outcome is easy to predict. Batista won the last matchand Orton is a new champion. Seems and easy one to guess.
They had the match at Armageddon, it was ok. There's still plenty to do between them so I'm not complaining too much. I just hope the Smackdown match intrests me more.
I think the outcome is easy to predict. Batista won the last matchand Orton is a new champion. Seems and easy one to guess.
RATEDRKO4LIFE
Dark Match Winner
to be honest, ive predicted the wwe's mainevents at pay perviews since the royal rumble, i knew orton would face hhh at mania and with that all transpiring i knew at backlash the mcmahons & hhh would take on the legacy, but then batista got involved, after hhh got injured i knew at judgement day batista wud be no.1 contender. its all too predictable. We all no that orton will walk over batista, either batista will win by DQ, then they'll have a rematch at the next pay perview, this feud could go on until WWE Extreme Rulz. Then Triple H will come back and they'll make a triple threat in the future, 3 Evolution Members, Orton (champion) vs Batista vs Triple H, Possibly at Summerslam. Randy Orton will hold the WWE Championship for a long while. I Mean look at the world title, It's being past around lyk there all playing a game. Randy Orton vs Batista is goin to b a drag, All Batista;s matches our boring. His Fake punches, he's not even strong. But thats my decision on the WWE Championship bout at Judgment Day 2009.
simonhirst
Dark Match Winner
seems the ideal time forr a hhh return and heel turn. after all, batista as good as cost him the title.only problem is havin hhh n orton as heels on same show. i dnt think there is enuf main eventers to push both of them as faces, u have cena and batista v orton n hhh, i can see any mix of them gettin boring very fast
SuperKick36
Pre-Show Stalwart
I don't think Batista is that bad, especially with Orton. They have pretty good in ring chemistry. Their matches aren't amazing by any means, but they're watchable.
The WWE does need to get new faces in there.
HHH needs to turn super heel. He's a better heel anyway. The only problem, like sum1 else said, is that Orton is on the same show which would create conflict because... obviously they just had a nasty feud... so wtf would Trips be doing if he tagged up w/ Orton vs. Batista + another face? It would make no sense.
A triple threat match w/ Batista, Orton, and Trips would just plain suck because I'm tired of seeing them in the same ring, BUT I don't think the wrestling would be that bad.
I would rather see Cena vs. Orton, but I guess the company is just scared to have the "Super Hero" of the company vs. the Arch Villian of the company because their fueds seem to end up in injury.
I think if Orton and Cena had some time to face eachother, they'd put together a pretty memorable feud.
The WWE does need to get new faces in there.
HHH needs to turn super heel. He's a better heel anyway. The only problem, like sum1 else said, is that Orton is on the same show which would create conflict because... obviously they just had a nasty feud... so wtf would Trips be doing if he tagged up w/ Orton vs. Batista + another face? It would make no sense.
A triple threat match w/ Batista, Orton, and Trips would just plain suck because I'm tired of seeing them in the same ring, BUT I don't think the wrestling would be that bad.
I would rather see Cena vs. Orton, but I guess the company is just scared to have the "Super Hero" of the company vs. the Arch Villian of the company because their fueds seem to end up in injury.
I think if Orton and Cena had some time to face eachother, they'd put together a pretty memorable feud.
travistragic
Occasional Pre-Show
Honestly, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say, unless we get a buttload of injuries, RAW main events are going to suck for a good long time. I can't think of any possible combination of HHH, Cena, Orton, or Batista that has any life left in it and with the exception of Matt Hardy (who's out with an injury) and MVP (who has a meaningless title he has to drop first) I don't really see anyone on RAW coming anywhere close to breaking into that "upper echelon". SD, on the other hand, with Edge and Jericho, looks like it has a lot of potential to be fresh.
That's probably what I'll be doing when this match is on. God, Batista, is just awful, just plain awful. Usually when someone comes back, even if I don't like them, I get a sense of giving them a chance. Batista is not one of those wrestlers. The guy is dull, the guy is boring, and he's about as one dimensional as they come.
Randy Orton isn't much better, but when he's in the ring with the right guy, magic can happen. This match has craptacular written all over it. Probably consisting of a bunch of either reverse chin locks, head locks, or whatever other version of the word lock, coupled with a bunch of high impact power moves that just bore you to tears at this point.
Winner: I don't care
Loser: All of us for having to sit threw this.
It's...Baylariat!
Team Finnley Baylor
Did anyone else notice that Big Show was as fast as Batista was during their match on Raw? That should tell you something. This match is going to be bad because Orton can't carry people to good matches and Batista is pure scrap.
I remember when he was OK in my eyes. When he first debuted with Evolution, he seemed to be agile, fast, and hard hitting and a genuine force. Now, he's slower, worse in the ring, and injury prone. I just don't see this match being worth anything. I see a DQ or Orton pinning Batista clean with the RKO.
If Batista wins, there's no way I watch Raw the next night. I also look for HHH to come back at the next PPV. HHH will think 3 weeks is enough to sell the punt. So expect him to come back and possibly cost Batista the belt. IF that happens, I'll mark out.
Other than that, this match will be Shitastic.
I remember when he was OK in my eyes. When he first debuted with Evolution, he seemed to be agile, fast, and hard hitting and a genuine force. Now, he's slower, worse in the ring, and injury prone. I just don't see this match being worth anything. I see a DQ or Orton pinning Batista clean with the RKO.
If Batista wins, there's no way I watch Raw the next night. I also look for HHH to come back at the next PPV. HHH will think 3 weeks is enough to sell the punt. So expect him to come back and possibly cost Batista the belt. IF that happens, I'll mark out.
Other than that, this match will be Shitastic.
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
Now now, ya bunch of negative nellies. The match at Armageddon wasnt too bad. Is this absurdly preditcable? yea. would it be WAY better with a gimmick? yea. These two have shown that they are capable of putting on a decent one on one encounter, so Its not something to get TOO upset over. Think of it this way...It COULD be triple H vs Randy Orton some more.
Yea this one will be booked "new york style" for damn sure LOL but eh, itll be serviceable. Orton wins.
Yea this one will be booked "new york style" for damn sure LOL but eh, itll be serviceable. Orton wins.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
Reasons Why This Match Works:
1. Their Lineage: If you think about it, both of these guys are like the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels of this Generation. Or maybe Shawn Michaels/Kevin Nash. Either way, they're of the same branch by way of coming into the Company. Orton joined in 2002, but didn't make much of an impact until Evolution in 2003. Whereas Batista joined in 2002, but was invisible until Evolution in 2003 as well.
They have history, and anyone with as much history as these two will be bound to put on a nice, dramatic style match-up.
2. Personal: As I mentioned with their previous connections, this rivalry is very personal. Any storyline that involves a long, heated and deeply personal issue is bound to be entertaining in some form or fashion.
Orton plays the heel well, and Batista always finds a way to make the crowd give him sympathy. So it works. Plus, similar to Batista/Edge from a couple years back.. the fans will cheer relentlessly for Batista to pummel and destroy Orton, and Legacy, for no other reason than to see it happen.
3. No Long Run-Offs: While this technical storyline can be spread as far back to 2004, when Orton was kicked out of Evolution with everything starting by the drop of a thumb and the electric chair from Batista.. the fact is, these two men can't really have run-on matches. Which means, this one should settle everything and allow Orton and Batista to move on, to their next opponents.
I foresee Randy Orton winning, mainly and obviously because he just won the Heavyweight Championship back, and he's in an even higher position now, than he was when he was last Champion. As for Batista, he's never worked well carrying a Brand.. but he works great, being a fixture and a fill-in. This will be a one-off match, allowing a month to pass and get them to the following Pay per view in June.
The ONLY WAY a rematch is bound to happen, is if it involves a gimmick at Extreme Rules. At which point, I even think that Pay per view was moved in favor of the Great American Bash.. so even that seems out of the question.
Face facts, Orton/Batista should logically and theoretically end here.. with an R.K.O, and an attempted Punk kick, that misses and re-introduces.. possibly, Shawn Michaels. (Another friend of Triple H, seeking revenge for his fallen best buddy.)
1. Their Lineage: If you think about it, both of these guys are like the Bret Hart/Shawn Michaels of this Generation. Or maybe Shawn Michaels/Kevin Nash. Either way, they're of the same branch by way of coming into the Company. Orton joined in 2002, but didn't make much of an impact until Evolution in 2003. Whereas Batista joined in 2002, but was invisible until Evolution in 2003 as well.
They have history, and anyone with as much history as these two will be bound to put on a nice, dramatic style match-up.
2. Personal: As I mentioned with their previous connections, this rivalry is very personal. Any storyline that involves a long, heated and deeply personal issue is bound to be entertaining in some form or fashion.
Orton plays the heel well, and Batista always finds a way to make the crowd give him sympathy. So it works. Plus, similar to Batista/Edge from a couple years back.. the fans will cheer relentlessly for Batista to pummel and destroy Orton, and Legacy, for no other reason than to see it happen.
3. No Long Run-Offs: While this technical storyline can be spread as far back to 2004, when Orton was kicked out of Evolution with everything starting by the drop of a thumb and the electric chair from Batista.. the fact is, these two men can't really have run-on matches. Which means, this one should settle everything and allow Orton and Batista to move on, to their next opponents.
I foresee Randy Orton winning, mainly and obviously because he just won the Heavyweight Championship back, and he's in an even higher position now, than he was when he was last Champion. As for Batista, he's never worked well carrying a Brand.. but he works great, being a fixture and a fill-in. This will be a one-off match, allowing a month to pass and get them to the following Pay per view in June.
The ONLY WAY a rematch is bound to happen, is if it involves a gimmick at Extreme Rules. At which point, I even think that Pay per view was moved in favor of the Great American Bash.. so even that seems out of the question.
Face facts, Orton/Batista should logically and theoretically end here.. with an R.K.O, and an attempted Punk kick, that misses and re-introduces.. possibly, Shawn Michaels. (Another friend of Triple H, seeking revenge for his fallen best buddy.)
Orton wins here. I just don't see him pinning Triple H for the title and dropping it at the next PPV to Batista. There's still a couple weeks until Judgement day so Triple H could realisticly come back and cause a DQ or distract Batista as pay back for distracting him at Backlash.
If Orton loses, it'll make his journey from the Royal Rumble to Backlash and capturing the WWE Championship look like nothing if he was to lose it less than a month later at the next PPV. Orton should go over cleanly with a nice RKO and punt.
If Orton loses, it'll make his journey from the Royal Rumble to Backlash and capturing the WWE Championship look like nothing if he was to lose it less than a month later at the next PPV. Orton should go over cleanly with a nice RKO and punt.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
Actually.. if you look at it that way, then you've followed absolutely nothing within the Company surrounding this storyline for the previous 3 months. His journey went from trying to become Heavyweight Champion again.. to simply surviving against the Owner of the Company's Family.
This is a bitter, personal hatred that rivals that of any Heavyweight Championship. And in all honesty, one that doesn't even need 'a' title to be attached to it. Orton could feud with anyone right now, that has a moderate connection to Triple H, or the McMahon Family.. and it could have zero to do with the Championship and still make perfect sense to be a Main Event match-up.
And furthermore, why should Orton go over cleanly? I never understood anyone's logic in having Edge or Randy Orton, ever ever win cleanly. They're heels. If they never win cleanly, then they're doing their job properly. Faces win cleanly. Heels cheat every chance they get.
An R.K.O, followed by a Punt kick would only if anything, hurt both Orton as well as Batista.
It'd hurt Batista, because he needs to be made to look like a top face. And a clean loss to a heel, is only going to destroy making him look like anything other than a pathetic joke in the Main Event scene. Something he's not.
It'd hurt Orton, because if he used the Punk kick, Batista would have to take another leave of absence to sell the kick still being deadly. That kick, right now, should ONLY EVER be used to put people on the injured list. Nothing more. It's one of the few moves that is still damn believable in being dangerous.
Orton should win, but as Will said, not cleanly. Orton is getting too much cheers as it is, a clean victory over Batista won't help that. A win with the aid of legacy is the correct way to go to boost Cody and Ted's profile a bit. Their job is to keep the title on Orton.
If HHH is involved, which he surely will be, it would be better if the ref is down, Cody and Ted are beating up Orton, HHH's music hits, he enters and cleans the ring, and as he goes to pedigree Orton the ref can wake up and call a DQ. This adds to the tension between HHH and Batista and can eventually lead to them turning on each other.
My only problem with this is Orton Batista could, with the correct build, boost buy rates for SummerSlam. Having it on a small PPV such as Judgment day gives them less options for the big PPV's.
If HHH is involved, which he surely will be, it would be better if the ref is down, Cody and Ted are beating up Orton, HHH's music hits, he enters and cleans the ring, and as he goes to pedigree Orton the ref can wake up and call a DQ. This adds to the tension between HHH and Batista and can eventually lead to them turning on each other.
My only problem with this is Orton Batista could, with the correct build, boost buy rates for SummerSlam. Having it on a small PPV such as Judgment day gives them less options for the big PPV's.
nthomas504
Pre-Show Stalwart
I can see Triple H returning and getting involved after Legacy does a beatdown and kicks Ortons ass, then as he gets Batista up, he Pedigrees him thus turning him heel. Or they can have Triple H come in during tha match causing Batista to lose thus starting a feud between Trips and Batista.
I'd love to see Orton win and win with a pin and cleanly in the center of the ring. Too bad for me that this has absolutely no chance of happening. If Batista wins I will probably puke and then eat it just so I have a chance to puke it a second time. Orton just finally got the title that he should have had at Mania if not for the ego-maniac HHH. speaking of the living walking breathing EGO-machine HHH, if he is currently a face and will return a face then he will need to have a heel as champion so that way HHH can come back and win the title in his big return match at night of champions. It really tells you what WWE think of Judgement Day when they put in so much preparation for Rumble, NWO, Mania, and Backlash title matches but for JD they just throw Batista in there so they can have a match to put on the card. I may just read the results on this PPV if the rest of the card doesnt pick up the slack.
I don't want to see this. Batista bores me. Orton can't lose the title here, but Batista needs to look immensely strong of course, so it is only ending in a run in from HHH who "accidently" costs Batista the title. This leads to either a triple threat or a Batista HHH feud, FINALLY allowing Orton to move on.
nthomas504
Pre-Show Stalwart
I heard that Triple H has been suspended. A rumor, I hope not, but still a rumor. So Triple H interfering is not as likely in my mind. I see Orton losing by Disqualification (similar to Cena vs. Orton at NWO) and then at Extreme Rules, they have some sorta gimmick match. I really can't see what Batista with the title can do. Sure he's impressive, not impressive enough to come back in his first title match since returning and win the title, it almost didnt work for John Cena(but did cause Jericho just doesnt go well with the title, but a great contender) so with a fresh, questionablely the best heel in the WWE just getting his hands on the title, one month removed for winning it in a freakin Tag-Team match. Randy has some proving to do for us, he just can't come back and lose the title in less than a month. If Batista wins, creative needs find some more creative ways to attract attention than shifting title reigns everymonth. Because both titles havent both been defended since No Mercy, which has been more than 6 months.
Batista sure had been on a roll as of late, but Orton will prevail. The Age of Orton is upon us and i dont think Batista is the guy to take the gold off him, at least not at this point. Legacy im sure will get involved or distract Batista or get Orton DQed. Then they will all jump Batista. Orton wins this one hands down.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
As hard as it is to believe, I think Orton and Batista have more chemistry than Orton and HHH. That being said, their match at Armageddon was good but not great and I sense there will be interference from Rhodes & DiBiase. I can see HHH returning to either help Batista or turn on him but he's not returning that soon. Another possibility is HBK returning so he can get revenge on Orton for HHH but I believe that will happen on RAW Monday. All in all, I see Orton picking up the win with a RKO because I don't think Batista will be that dumb to let himself get disqualified again.
Why are people so negative about this match? We get Randy Orton vs. Triple H at Wrestlemania, and they bitched about that (myself included). So now we get something different for a change, and they still bitch. Maybe they have issues with Randy Orton rather than Batista and Triple H. I mean let's face it, whens the last time Orton put on a classic match? Plus, I thought their match at Armageddon was pretty good so I really don't know why people are bitching here.
Plus it's Judgment Day, so this match seems almost too good for the card. But to my knowledge, the WWE has a history of ending Title matches in disqualification at Judgment Day, so I can see the trend continuing here. Why do I get the feeling Orton will get disqualified and beat down Batista after the match with Legacy. Wait! What's this? Triple H is running down to the ring!? And bam, Raw has gotten worse by the minute that guy returns. Ugh, the worst thing is that I actually believe the scene will go exactly like that, at this very pay per view.
Personally, I'd rather Triple H return after Extreme Rules, where Batista and Orton can have a rematch for the Title in a cage match or some other gimmick match. I personally like this feud, and it has been interesting despite being repetitive at times. Batista shouldn't win the Title at Judgment Day though. But it's gotten to the stage where I'm predicting a title change, because it happens so damn often nowadays. I didn't think Orton would have won the belt at Backlash, but he did. People don't think Batista will win here, but he might. That's all I'm saying, expect the unexpected.
Plus it's Judgment Day, so this match seems almost too good for the card. But to my knowledge, the WWE has a history of ending Title matches in disqualification at Judgment Day, so I can see the trend continuing here. Why do I get the feeling Orton will get disqualified and beat down Batista after the match with Legacy. Wait! What's this? Triple H is running down to the ring!? And bam, Raw has gotten worse by the minute that guy returns. Ugh, the worst thing is that I actually believe the scene will go exactly like that, at this very pay per view.
Personally, I'd rather Triple H return after Extreme Rules, where Batista and Orton can have a rematch for the Title in a cage match or some other gimmick match. I personally like this feud, and it has been interesting despite being repetitive at times. Batista shouldn't win the Title at Judgment Day though. But it's gotten to the stage where I'm predicting a title change, because it happens so damn often nowadays. I didn't think Orton would have won the belt at Backlash, but he did. People don't think Batista will win here, but he might. That's all I'm saying, expect the unexpected.
I expect Orton to retain. He never loses to anyone in title matches but HHH, so he will likely keep retaining until HHH returns (which hopefully will not be for a LONG time). Nothing against Batista, but he has no chance here.
Dagger Dias prediction: ORTON
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Dagger Dias prediction: ORTON
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nthomas504
Pre-Show Stalwart
I understand you don't want Batista to win, and believe me, I don't either. But lets face it a little. The WWE has tried to do some of the most suprising shit just to give us a swerve (ex. Matt Hardy Turn, No Way Out in general, Orton at Mania, just to name a few) which leads me to think that Vince has people looking up these sites and using the material to confuse us, but i'll make a thread similar.
Anyways why would Batista win
1. This is just an opinion but, Cena and Batista have always had the same amount of title reigns, and this can bring them back to being even. Small detail I know, but if you really think about it, they've been pushed similar.
2. The last time the World Heavyweight Championship was defended was at Royal Rumble.
Don't get me wrong in anyway, I like Orton and I want him as champ. But if they keep the title on Orton, Trips will be forced to feud wit Randy, and do any of us really want to see a repeat of WM25 main-event. I didnt think so. I expect Batista, if Orton does, i'll be happy for days.