The hell are you talking about? They were DESPERATE to keep him before he left. Why do you think they gave him such a huge push towards the end of his contract?
Jeff Hardy: "That's why I'm going to remain here [TNA]"
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The hell are you talking about? They were DESPERATE to keep him before he left. Why do you think they gave him such a huge push towards the end of his contract?
i'm a cm punk girl
Pre-Show Stalwart
who cares?
it seems like this thread was only started for tna/wwe fanboys to argue.
it seems like this thread was only started for tna/wwe fanboys to argue.
You saying that its about loyalty and not all about money than your saying that all the NFL backups should jump to the CFL? Where they have to work another job in the offseason but hey they are doing something they love where they feel respected?
Full of shit. Jeff Hardy is a lazy, burn out. Plain and simple. He jumped to TNA because he wanted to do his drugs. TNA is in such need of stars that they let him get away with it, in fact, turned it into a storyline(which isnt a bad thing).
He doesn't want to leave TNA where he "feels wanted" for the place where he would be just another spoke in the wheel? For the money he would make being "just another spoke in the wheel" he should go and take it if the offer is there. The fact that he isn't there shows that the offer isn't there either.
You would have to be stupid, especially at his age, especially with the legal issues he has come across, to turn down WWE money. But then again, Jeff Harvey...Hardy is stupid.
Full of shit. Jeff Hardy is a lazy, burn out. Plain and simple. He jumped to TNA because he wanted to do his drugs. TNA is in such need of stars that they let him get away with it, in fact, turned it into a storyline(which isnt a bad thing).
He doesn't want to leave TNA where he "feels wanted" for the place where he would be just another spoke in the wheel? For the money he would make being "just another spoke in the wheel" he should go and take it if the offer is there. The fact that he isn't there shows that the offer isn't there either.
You would have to be stupid, especially at his age, especially with the legal issues he has come across, to turn down WWE money. But then again, Jeff Harvey...Hardy is stupid.
This Is My Name Thank You
Is a horrible poster.
Good for Jeff Hardy; more importantly GREAT for TNA. TNA really is the ones who could lose more than Jeff Hardy has to lose. He is TNA's top merchandise seller, most over guy, and he has had some great matches recently in TNA. I am glad he is sticking with TNA. Whether he had a chance or shot at going back to WWE, is something we will never know. We all can assume yay or nay, but we don't know shit when it comes down to it.
I am happy for Jeff, as he is a reason I tune into TNA. I am also very happy with TNA having one of their top guys stick around too. Whether it'd be on his own terms or not, it is a huge win win for both parties.
I am happy for Jeff, as he is a reason I tune into TNA. I am also very happy with TNA having one of their top guys stick around too. Whether it'd be on his own terms or not, it is a huge win win for both parties.
HBKistheHOF
Guest
I see what your talking about but I think Big Nick Dudley is actually right here. I don't think WWE has even considered bringing Hardy back in.
It was 2009 when WWE was really trying to keep Jeff Hardy & gave him a big push. It not only has been several years & WWE has MUCH more talent now but Hardy hasn't done anything to threaten WWE as a company or prove his long term worth & I don't think WWE wants anyone back that isn't a bonafied Legend like Flair or can prove to be a valuable asset that WWE didn't capitalize on like a Colt Cabana.
fenderjapan
Pre-Show Stalwart
I'm not saying Sting was wrong to not go to WWE. I get why he did it.
Good for Jeff Hardy. It's obvious he's finally doing what is best for him personally and not conforming to "net" opinion of what he should do. At the end of the day, each performer has to do what is best for them. TNA seems to be the better fit for Jeff with lighter travel and them not limiting what performers can/cannot do in the ring. He is standing out in TNA and in WWE he'd be lost in the shuffle. I can't say I blame Hardy for that choice, given his past history with WWE.
The predictable WWE mark reply I was expecting soon as I saw this thread. You are 100% wrong.
Jeff Hardy LEFT WWE on his OWN, he walked out during his championship run and feud with CM Punk which was arguably the best run of his entire wrestling career. His reasoning to WWE was due to fatigue and scheduling...difference is, he didn't come back. After, he left he got into trouble with the law and that pretty much kept him busy for 8-9 months.
By the time, he made his return to TNA on January 3rd with the first Monday Night show, WWE saw it...Tried to offer him more money, less travel for him to re-sign and not ink a deal with TNA considering he still was a free agent in the market and simply appeared in TNA as a favor to Hogan.
He declined that, signed with TNA in March of 2010 until now. Don't try to play it off like his issues with the law impacted WWE's decision and he had no choice, that is complete utter trash.
Seriously, posts like these make the wrestling business a joke. No respectability and bias 24/7.
If you like Hardy, you'd see past his personal problems and would be glad that he has some place to make money and utilize his talent.
If you don't like Hardy, don't want to see him and his risk factor wouldn't outweigh his talent and would be annoyed by people from Party A.
What we have here is a failure to communicate...
If you don't like Hardy, don't want to see him and his risk factor wouldn't outweigh his talent and would be annoyed by people from Party A.
What we have here is a failure to communicate...
I love it how WWE marks go back and insert revisionist history[doubt they know what that means] into actual reality. The fact is Jeff Hardy left WWE on his own terms to join TNA. He does seem to really want to help TNA grow and is there because he wants to be. Trust me, if WWE thought it would boost ratings and he'd want to return, they'd resign Hardy. One needs not look any further than Matt Hardy to see proof. WWE didn't bring back Hardy in 2005/2006 because he was talented or deserved to be back. They did it for a cheap ratings ploy and because net fans were pandering for it. With Jeff Hardy, it's a totally different story because he is choosing where to go or in this case, where to stay.
In the past I have been openly criticizing Jeff for the drug use problems and work issues. He has done a good job of remaining sober and performing for TNA since his return. He is good to fans with his interaction with them and I can't think of anything to knock Hardy for. It's nice to see Hardy remain loyal to TNA when so many others have just been there to earn another payday or get another 15 seconds of fame. Like I said before, TNA is just the right fit for Jeff at this point in time. I would like to see Jeff get another WrestleMania moment before he retires, but I would understand if he didn't.
Pointless interview...
Do you really expect Hardy to say he's leaving TNA?
He's at that point where the WWE probably won't want him after a few years. Hardy's two biggest positives were his risk taking and the fact the girls liked him.
He'll have to cut back on the risk taking and the girls arent going to be fond of an out-of-shape 40 year old.
Do you really expect Hardy to say he's leaving TNA?
He's at that point where the WWE probably won't want him after a few years. Hardy's two biggest positives were his risk taking and the fact the girls liked him.
He'll have to cut back on the risk taking and the girls arent going to be fond of an out-of-shape 40 year old.
Zeven_Zion
King Of The Ring
WWE's not going to want him? A clean Jeff Hardy. A Jeff Hardy who was rivaling Cena in babyface power and general fandom. Give me a break.
Are you claiming WWE is too good for him? Jeff Hardy is in better shape (physically and mentally) than he's been in any of his recent WWE runs. They'll snatch him up like hot bread.
Hell, they wanted him in 2010, only imagine what they'll give to have him in 2012. A RETURNING Jeff Hardy at that - those are always big.
Pluck your head out of WWE's ass.
Plus, TNA guys have shat on TNA WHILE employed. Namely - Eric Bischoff has done it. He has called people out on stupid storylines and so on. This isn't the WWE where you get fired for shit like that.
If Hardy had something negative to say he would've said it. What's he got to fear? That Dixie will fire him or punish him? PHA! Like that's ever gonna happen. She didn't punish him when he came drugged out of his mind at a Pay-Per-View, wouldn't do it for a couple of criticisms.
Face it - the guy feels like this for real and the fact that he doesn't have McMahon's balls down his throat anymore is eating the fanboys from the inside.
Things change, change with 'um.
Yeah I don't think the WWE would want him now and I totally think they'd pass on Hardy. He's the guy that puts their whole wellness program at risk. If he stayed with the WWE instead of going to TNA he would have been fired for his 3rd wellness violation and that would have sent him to TNA anyway.
Hardy can't handle a full WWE schedule and I don't know if they're willing to give him a lighter schedule like they've given other Top WWE Stars. What happens when Punk and Cena ask for that same schedule?
Why invest money in a guy who you're going to have to fire anyway?
Hardy has a ton of issues and until he remains clean and sober I really don't think the WWE would want him beyond the Merch. sales.
Problem with Hardy is he got over on his boyish good looks and his balls out risk taking. Unless he develops another move set he's going to be a broken down old man.
Hardy can't handle a full WWE schedule and I don't know if they're willing to give him a lighter schedule like they've given other Top WWE Stars. What happens when Punk and Cena ask for that same schedule?
Why invest money in a guy who you're going to have to fire anyway?
Hardy has a ton of issues and until he remains clean and sober I really don't think the WWE would want him beyond the Merch. sales.
Problem with Hardy is he got over on his boyish good looks and his balls out risk taking. Unless he develops another move set he's going to be a broken down old man.
Little Jerry Lawler
Sigmund Freud On Ritalin And Roids
Yeah, here's the thing about Hardy putting their wellness program at risk. I believe the WWE has a guy on their roster named Randy Orton who is currently on his second strike if I'm not mistaken. Maybe it'll be a trade if Orton gets a third one.
If Hardy wants to stay in TNA, then I'm fine with it. He's been having great matches the past year and he's their most popular star. He enjoys what he does in TNA and that's good enough for me.
If Hardy wants to stay in TNA, then I'm fine with it. He's been having great matches the past year and he's their most popular star. He enjoys what he does in TNA and that's good enough for me.
Alex
King Of The Wasteland
Wow, you are a bit dim aren't you.
Orton possibly having strikes for roids is still as bad as recreational drug use (just ask Evan Bourne) and I think I'm right in saying Jeff was upped to the gills on painkillers, not quite recreational.
As to him staying in TNA. Good on him. He doesn't have to kill himself with the schedule (which I think is the main problem) and he gets more creative freedom (in and out of the ring) and it allows him to spend more time with his family. Fair play to the guy.
Zeven_Zion
King Of The Ring
Hardy has been clean for a year. That is a fact. Just because someone used to do drugs doesn't mean he definitely will again.
If you don't trust ex-drug addicts then I bet you cringe every time Randy Orton is out. Or better yet - Shawn Michaels. He was THE drug addict of them all yet he came back in 2002, just a few years after his huge issues and had a 10 year run with the WWE clean as a whistle.
At this point you're just trying to come up with stupid excuses. You're putting Hardy on the noose for something a lot of people in the WWE have and are doing at this moment. I bet you'd have a different stance if he was working under a WWE contract or if his problems weren't magnified so much by the dirt sheets.
Face it - WWE wants him, Hardy doesn't want the WWE, he wants TNA. Hell froze over.
Spinebreaker
Pre-Show Stalwart
Strange isn't it, that Hardy didn't feel this way in 2006?
Zeven_Zion
King Of The Ring
Quite.
As we all know, human beings never change their minds and attitudes. Since 2006 was 7 years ago, I can back you up on this. I for one have been thinking and behaving in the exact same way I did when I was 10. Nothing changed.
Hardy IS a weirdo. I bet it's a result of all those drugs he uses. Freak.
Randy Orton isn't as messed up as Jeff Hardy was and I doubt HBK was as messed up as Jeff Hardy was. But in HBK's case he played by a different set of standards because the WWE wasn't testing at the time when he was a druggie.
The WWE let Hardy walk because of his drug use and he really hasn't shown me anything to think that he's clean. He lost his job twice because of drug use then he shows up to TNA on drugs and he does a short stint in the clink. Why invest money in that? Especially with Linda McMahon going after Public Office. With Randy and Evan you can say you're trying to help your employees. With Jeff Hardy you just hired yourself a druggie.
Spinebreaker
Pre-Show Stalwart
Ignoring the sarcasm, While the last seven years have been eventful for you, the same cannot be said for someone older. Hardy's a couple of years older than me I believe, and his musical interest and other 'out of the ring' factors have been a factor for at least 20 years. I personally doubt that Jeff is telling the whole story in this interview. That's just an opinion.
LOL at all of the WWE marks trying to pretend Jeff Hardy's "washed up" all of a sudden because he apparently isn't going back to the WWE. I'd bet a lot of the same people were exited about him going back when the rumor mill was suggesting he would a few months back. Same deal with Sting every time Wrestlemania rolls around. Could you guys be more full of it?
JJYanks121
The Mouth of the South Shore
To make your point you've lied twice.
Well, at the very least, you've made something up to make a point.
1) Jeff Hardy being clean is far from being a fact. The ONLY evidence we have of that is Jeff's word and a TNA storyline. Considering who we are dealing with, I'd hardly call that fact. I sincerely hope he is clean and whatnot but I wouldn't dare call that a fact, especially not to make a bad argument to begin with.
2) There's no proof that WWE wants him back. You can't say that just to make a point. If the guy was a free agent, maybe they'd talk to him but the only evidence of such was that Jeff himself gave an interview prior where he said he'd consider going back to the WWE. That doesn't mean they want him, just that he said he wouldn't be opposed to going back.
Like I've said though, this isn't some giant "stick it to WWE" coup for TNA. Heck, it's not even a surprising move. Jeff isn't a passionate wrestler. He hasn't been for a long time. He has other passions and he channels them into wrestling which pays his bills. That's why you get the facepaint, the music, and now the inner monologues. He's trying to make wrestling as "Jeff" as possible and TNA is letting him. In my opinion, they are doing so and it's detrimental to the product, but TNA is in a position where they feel they need Jeff more than Jeff needs them so they're willing to let him do that.
Honestly, I couldn't care less about Jeff but that's known around these boards. Maybe he draws but lets be honest, he hasn't exactly "taken TNA to the next level, brother". He's a good hand though a weird one who once had other-wordly popularity. I feel his antics hurt the product and make him less appealing to the masses but that's me. For now, he sells t-shirts more than anyone else so he's seen as valuable. That's fine, but lets not act like this is bigger than it is. It's not a gamechanger and it shouldn't merit this much discussion.
Hot Chocolate
Dark Match Jobber
Jeff isn't washed up but his career won't last much longer unless he can change his style. He's 35 I doubt he'll make it to 40 jumping off ladders.
As for Sting his career is over but he could still do a 13 month run in the WWE. IMO it would be in his best interest to come work for the WWE and work two Manias.
As for Sting his career is over but he could still do a 13 month run in the WWE. IMO it would be in his best interest to come work for the WWE and work two Manias.