Jack Swagger wins MITB. What Now??

I was pretty shocked when I saw this. It was a semi-pleasant surprise to me. The reason is because I do see potential in Swagger. But, The match was filled with so many people deserving of the briefcase that it was bittersweet when Swagger unhooked that briefcase. I really wanted to see Christian or Kofi win this. I found myself pulling for Evan Bourne after that sweet Air Bourne. I really hope the WWE turns him heel and pushes him hard. I can see Bourne being huge if they use him right. Oh well, I'd rather have something be a surprise than be predictable.

By the way, Does anyone else think that Swagger definitely had issues unhooking and getting that briefcase or is it just me?
 
Terrible decision by the WWE. No, nevermind how over Christian is, just keep ignoring him and maybe he'll go away. What the fuck do hey have against this guy, seriously? Is Vince really irked because he went to TNA for a few years? Jeez.

I'll admit right now, I'm a little idealistic in how I think Christian is going to be utilized this year. I think Vince has bigger plans for him, and that he'll move on to Smackdown, and hopefully feud with Edge, but I'll admit you can make the case that Vince hasn't treated Christian properly. At all. I'll admit, his debut was bumbled, but quite frankly, I also think Christian is above this year's MiTB shot.

Let me explain; clearly, in this Wrestlemania, you had plenty of guys who are either projects at best, or guys who's better days are behind them. As much as I love Kane, his day in the sun has set. However, in this year's MiTB, you have clearly many guys who lack polish. Guys who will probably need the MiTB, and then to be built up. Let's look at the names that took part in this.

McIntyre: The guy was going to need serious polish to be considered a threat to Jericho, Taker, and the like. Even with MiTB, he'd also need plenty of momentum to take with him throughout the year.

Kofi: He's close, but just not there yet. He'd need to work on his promo skills, and may have been the closest thing to being ready of the names that need "polish". The only reason Jack probably got the nod over Kofi for receiving more work into him, sadly, is because of Jack's body.

Swagger: A great looking specimen, with a great knack for matches. His only flaw? Poor booking, and some sub par mic skills. One of those can be fixed by Raw's Creative. The other? The WWE is going to have to hope this vote of confidence will inspire Jack to work on himself.

Shelton: Again, if you give him the shot, you're going to have plenty to work with. Swagger's promos are still better than Shelton's. You know I'm not particularly a fan of Shelton, but even I admit I'm intruiged by his last run. The problem is, he gets lazy apparently, and while Vince can tolerate many things, one of them is not laziness. Still, Shelton is still a project, at best.

Ziggler: Again, could use some finessing of a character. If he's given the briefcase, the WWE still must put plenty of time into developing a character for him.

Bourne: So much limits Bourne as it is, but he, just like Shelton, needs to work on his promos. If he won the briefcase, the WWE would have to spend months thinking of to make this guy's promo's compelling.

Then you have the other names in this match:

Kane: He's seen far better days. Sadly, there's not much room for the guy either than establishing other stars. Shame, because I'm quite the Kane mark.

Matt Hardy: LULZ. No way this guy will ever get into Vince's view as a credible main eventer. He's just fine where he is.

MVP: I really don't know what to make of this guy. If he has any hope, he'd better turn heel, to make himself interesting again. Again, maybe I should put him in the polish category, but I do think his best days are beyond him.

So, you have six characters that are going to need some type of work before cashing in the briefcase, and three that are washed up. Christian is a unique case, as he's already a fantastic worker, cuts great promos, and is simply getting great pops.

But you know what that means? It means he's not going to need the MiTB briefcase to get title shots. He'll probably be able to do that on his own shots down the line, if he keeps up the work. Vince probably sees Christian, and thinks to himself that he doesn't need any extra work to be a star; as long as he puts him in the right angle, he can make money off him. However, all the other names could use the one year allowed to the MiTB, and improve on an area in which, if they did actually improve, would make them a complete. Christian, at this time, is perfectly fine without having any extra build to him. It wasn't an act of anger by Vince, but rather of neccesity. Vince needs to build as many new stars as possible. To him, Christian is as close to come as ready as he'll get, so why bother wasting the briefcase on him, when he can already be a star?

Meanwhile, if he gives the briefcase to Swagger, then Vince can have to brand news stars on his roster, rather than just the one with Christian. It wasn't that Vince felt Christian wasn't good enough for MiTB, but rather, Christian is actually too good for MiTB. It was apparent to me, after the roster came out, that the challenger who holds the briefcase is going to need time to be built up, aside from Christian. Christian can probably work a main event match, and no one would second guess. With this briefcase, Vince could work on another project, guaranteed that at the least, Vince can still use Christian for bigger better things.

It's simple logic; why settle for building up one guy who probably doesn't need it, when you can make two new stars, and have two new names for the marquee?
 
i kinda thought swagger would win honestly, if you listen to his commentary this monday night on raw i kinda felt like swagger gave it away. But he's not gonna beat cena, so it would be better and make more sense to fight jeriflab because it would be more believable.
 
I was pretty shocked when I saw this. It was a semi-pleasant surprise to me. The reason is because I do see potential in Swagger. But, The match was filled with so many people deserving of the briefcase that it was bittersweet when Swagger unhooked that briefcase.

By the way, Does anyone else think that Swagger definitely had issues unhooking and getting that briefcase or is it just me?

Pretty much the same thing I was going to say!

There's lots of Swagger love on this forum, and I'm a moderate fan of him, myself, so when he won I wasn't upset. But definitely surprised.

I agree with what a lot of people are saying, that he will be the first MitB winner to lose a challenge; his jobbing against Santino before the Royal Rumble definitely supports this.

Also, as STL said, his difficulty unhooking the briefcase was weird. Legitimate? Was someone supposed to knock over the ladder? Was he really having that hard of a time? Weird.

However, WWE really could be building him. I was watching WM with a bunch of non-wrestling fans (somehow I convinced ten people to give me five dollars and three hours of their life so I could watch wrestlemania... awesome!!!) and everyone thought his entrance was hysterical, with the hooded cloak and bouncing around and everything. That immediately got them on his side, even though they knew nothing about him--someone said he was like Rocky. So from a perspective outside of the IWC, maybe he's got a legitimate chance of becoming a superstar. Cool!
 
Terrible decision by the WWE. No, nevermind how over Christian is, just keep ignoring him and maybe he'll go away. What the fuck do hey have against this guy, seriously? Is Vince really irked because he went to TNA for a few years? Jeez.

I like Swagger, I do. He had some damn fine matches last year as ECW champion against guys like Christian, but he is no way, shape, or form ready for the kind of push that a MITB suitcase comes with, the guy is barely believable competing for the US title, now he's got a World Title shot? This is a guy that lost to Santino Marella not 2 months ago. SANTINO! And even if he does become the first MITB winner to lose his title shot, what was the point of this then? Couldn't they have given it to someone (like Christian, or even Matt Hardy or Kofi Kingston) more believable as a main event threat?

Really stupid decision by the WWE, the crowd wasn't buying the ending to that match at all.

I don't think he did either as it took him FOREVER to get that damn latch off the briefcase.

This came as a huge surprise to me. Swagger was near the bottom on my list of who would win MiTB. Of course Bourne is last, then Hardy was before him. Swagger was ahead of Hardy as far as I was concerned. But I'm not sold on Christian being MiTB either. Notice that the cash in works well with the heel. When Edge cashed in his briefcase on Cena, it sent Edge into the hemisphere as a heel. Not saying Swagger is at Edge level, but he can definitely make someone's life miserable by cashing in and winning the belt. Christian doing it would not have that huge of an impact unless he was able to do so at a PPV main event against someone like Jericho or Edge.

But I'm fine with Swagger being the MiTB. And what I think will happen involves Swagger putting himself over as a threat to win the title and a good push to come out of it, resulting in him cashing in on Cena in the near future. I've heard constantly that Cena is taking time off to film a movie and nurse injuries, so Cena can keep the belt for a month or two, and then Swagger cashes it in on him and takes Cena out... making him a force, and setting up a great return feud for Cena later on in the year. It can work.
 
positive he is up and coming negative he is the wrong person it should be christian or drew mcIntyre what they should do is make him attack john cena after every match then after jericho has been in a match under extreme rules capitalize on it make him champ like sheamus's pushthe only risk is how good is jack swagger at being face
 
After reading a lot of what is said I had an idea. He does the cash in after a beat down and loses and he cant believe it. Then the next night *insert jobber* makes fun of Swagger for losing and he snaps. He goes all Kurt Angel on the guy flipping out driven and just beats the shat out of him and then applies some sick new submission maneuver. Afterwards he gets a mic and sttares at the crowd then he drops it never says a think and walks out then he does this for a few weeks beating up jobbers and moves his way up through the mid carders till he get shot at the mid card title where he just demolishes the champ makes him tap and then finally gets a mic and speaks into it saying he lost the MITB and it lit a fire and now everyoen will feel his pain and *insert champion* Once he is done with everyone else I am taking that title from you and breaking you
 
I can only see good coming from this even if he loses. If he wins, then the positive there is pretty easy to figure out. He would be champion. If he loses, well you at least see that he has the skills to go toe-to-toe with the big boys. Sure, he lost to Santino in a fluke win. What most of you people are forgetting is that this man is a two time (two time...sorry couldn't resist) ECW Champion, a man that pushed BOTH Cena and Triple H to their limits on Raw and a man that was part of Team Raw during the Bragging Rights Pay Per View.

My whole theory hinges on whether he stays on Raw or goes to Smackdown during the draft. If he stays on Raw, then I really don't see him winning as I feel he is not a big enough star to carry Raw yet. If he goes to Smackdown, I can totally see him becoming World Heavyweight Champion. Not to mention that with Taker leaving they will have an open spot in the Main Event. I think this is WWE Creative showing faith in Jack Swagger. Not to mention that he has all new attire to go along with a possible Main Event push.
 
who cares he won't get to cash it in with the money in the bank ppv coming up a bigger star will win then and fight swagger to see who is the one and only money in the bank winner, and of course swagger will lose. The only reason he won tonight was for pure shock factor because no other heels went over.
 
What bigger star is going to win MITB? Please do not tell me Christian. Yes, Christian is over, but WWE will not push the guy. I had a group of friends over today. There was a total of 15 people, and 6 of them only watch wrestling occasionally. All of the people here were rooting for Swagger. They believe he has the look, and the skill set. I would have loved to see Christian win, but he is not as over as some people think he is. I have been to 8 shows the past year, and Kofi gets a bigger reaction than him. The next guy would be Kofi, and I think WWE will gradually push him without needing MITB. I think the same thing applies to Drew.
 
If you ask me, I see him becoming the new Mr. Kennedy. I don't see WWE taking him too seriously unless they let him keep the briefcase and cash it in at Mania 27, which would make sense seeing as it would give him time to slowly build heat.

I think Swagger could easily be given a decent title reign, and there wouldn't be much of a problem. I mean right now there's more top faces than there are heels, so why not make a third top heel in Swagger?
 
So Jack Swagger won the Money In The Bank Ladder Match last night...WOW...I was watching it at bdubs and everyone in there was just quiet. The guy has been dropping matches left and right and then this happens. Hopefully Vince is getting it through his head that Jack is a hell of a wrestler and just needs a mouth piece to become a champion. Whatever happens though, this could be THE shot for Swagger as far as the WHC or WWE Championship is concerned.
 
For my point of view I think Swagger will be the first guy to fail after cashing in Money in the Bank. Its a pity because I quite like him and the more guys they give a chance to run with the ball the better, but I feel they will look to add some unpredictability to winning MITB.

I wouldn't be too suprised to see him cash it in tonight you know. After that I see him becoming obsessed with getting another chance to be the number 1 contender with him losing at vital times throughout the year perhaps leading up to the Royal Rumble where he finally becomes number 1 contender again.
 
as i only got to see mitb, i can say that i was glad to do so. i got to see the one shock of the night. anyway i cant see swagger cashing and losing cos it just ruins the credibility of a recent wm tradition. if anything, the kennedy moment will happen again.
 
Not a lot of people are giving Jack the credit for what he is. I can see him being drafted to Smackdown and probably cashing it in at Money in the Bank or Summerslam. I think it's unlikely but still possible that Edge win the title at Extreme Rules and Swagger pulls an Edge and gets the title from him. Then they have a re-match at Fully Loaded Swagger wins and carries the championship into Fatal Four Way against Edge Jericho & Rey Punk or Morrison.
 
OK, I hate to see people saying hes going to lose the title like Mr. Kennnedy,

HELLO!
Mr. Kennedy had to get rid of the briefcase becuase he was injured, jeez

if he cashed it in to a vulnerable cena, I garuntee that he will be able to pin him out, look at the match they had in december cena barley beat him then, but can he beat him while hes tired or even injured?

I see swagger as the wwe champion because he reminds me of kurt angle, both extremley patriotic and both technical with amateur backgrounds and best of all they both where traditional technical suits.

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I think it's great that Swagger won, but the only reason that he won is because WWE NEEDS another top Heel. With both Edge and Randy Orton Turned Face, Orton Unofficially for now, WWE only has four top heels: Jericho, Punk, Batista and Sheamus. With top faces of Taker, HHH, Edge, Orton, Cena, HBK(?), and Upper Midcard Faces like Kane, Morrison, Truth, Kofi, Christian etc., WWE needed to create a believable top/upper midcard heel.

Swagger is Perfect for that role, he can work one hell of a match, he isn't awful on the mic, and he is the perfect example of a cocky young heel. He can believably hang with the top guys like Cena and Christian, and he has a very bright future ahead of him. I'm REALLY looking foreward to a lengthy program with Cena, which i almost garantee is who he goes after, considering his brilliantly worked match a while back with Cena while he was ECW champ. I hope he holds off cashing in until Cena at least has a couple of months as champion though, as the WWE title has changed hands way too quickly as of late.
 
I assume that this can go one of two ways.

1) Wwe has finally gotten there rush of interest back in Swagger, and he will do something huge in time.

Edge/Jericho does NOT seem to be over, So at Extreme Rules, These two go at it, Edge wins. Then Swagger comes out and becomes the NEW ultimate opportunist by beating Edge, Putting them into a program.

OR

2) He becomes the new ''Billy gunn/King of ring'' type. He would be the one to NOT win with his money in the bank, and not becoming a bigger star from it. (See Billy gunns win at the King of the ring, and how he floundered after, whereas all the other king of the ring winners, Prospered)
 
I thought Kofi should have win, hes an exciting young talent, loved the stilts bit. I just dont think Swagger's gonna make it, hes sort of lame and his look is all wrong for me, plus the All American American thing makes him sound so stupid. For me it should have been Kofi though, hes exciting and very talented.
 
I just dont understand why the wwe would have swagger win. among the ten in the match he has done the least to deserve the push this year. and think about all the guys there... when swaggers music plays he doesnt even get any reaction from the crowd. the people just dont care about him either way....and this is the guy they get to win the MITB.

the only thing keeping my hopes up is that there is an entire money in the bank ppv, which makes me think it will diminish the value of the WM MITB and swagger will get the push of this win and lose the match quickly...something like that.
 
The second I saw swagger take the case, all the guys I was watching mania with flipped, manly cos most of us are workers but thats another subject...
The first thing I thought was, Swagger is going to be the first guy to loose mitb and i was sure it was going to happen at mania, which I didnt, but if you think about it it makes sense... they have two mitb matches this year so it wouldn't matter so much for them to have swagger loose
1. because there not really doing anything with him, he just got lucky and hes not built up enough yet to actully beat the champion.
and 2. it wouldnt damage any of the other guys in the match who were potential winners, so they can win at the ppv.
it seems like they just needed to add that uncertaincy to the mitb as every guy thats won before has been champ, so with someone loosing it makes you think "hey, maybe its not a guaranteed title reign.." so when the next guy wins it after the ppv it'll come as more of a "suprise".
 
It has been made very clear to me that from Swagger's look from last night that WWE is trying to make him the next Kurt Angle. Look at the similarities between the 2:
They are both all-americans
They are both mat wresters

I can see Swagger going very far in the WWE if he is utilized correctly. He could use a better finisher than the Swagger Slam(I think that's what they call it) and even a good submission finisher
 
i honestly thought that christian was goin to win as everbody else.
but everything can happen in the wwe as they say, im glad that jack swagger won the mitb, can,t wait till the day he cashes
 
hmmm... After all this rumors he'll go to Smackdown after 2010 draft, i personaly think he'll get there but cashing the MitB on extreme rules. Thoughts?
 
This was the shocker of the night and i like it. I want to see Swagger keep this for a long time, then have Cena feud with various heels, losing the title, and of course (like Super Cena does) re-gain it, the in about 6 or 8 months, have Cena re-gain or retain his title in a hard fought brutal match and have Swagger cash it in and win it, then have Swagger pull off an upset re-match and let him become a star. Swagger can wrestle and after months of not using Swagger he wins Money in the Bank, good curveball WWE.
 

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