It becomes more like WCW every day; JWoww coming to TNA

I don't see how this is a big deal? Jersey Shore (I don't particularly watch it) but it's apparently a very popular show with a strong following. If they can get some viewers over or some publicity in the magazines, etc. talking about any of them going to TNA for any reason at all...that's worth it right there. And press like that usually costs a lot more than $15K too.

Either way, it's not really a big deal. I personally don't care about it at all...but it's a nice business move by them anyway. IMO



It may not matter in the short run as TNA caters to a "Jwoww" crowd, but it matters to your avid pro wrestling fans. As they continue to seek alternative viewing options, they see their favorite wrestling shows turning more MTV-like every day. So, they turn the channel. WWE has to compete with MNF. TNA competes against everything these days as they desperately continue to throw spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks.

This PPV, IMHO, was a tremendous disappointment. The buildup to the event far outweighed the payoff. Jarrett turns heel. AGAIN! What a shock. Who knows why, but he did. Not surprising. I'll admit that the Hardy turn was a good thing, but does anyone REALLY believe he's their flagship guy? Does anyone think putting the belt on Hardy lets them compete with Orton, Sheamus, or even a now sort of heel Cena? Even as the WWE tries to figure out what to do in a post-DX world, they at least have viable stars who aren't
A. retiring, B. embroiled in drug-related court cases, or C. whining and moaning on twitter about how they're unappreciated and so will take their ball and go home.

I like some of the guys in TNA like Styles, Beer Money, MCMG, and Lethal. Most of the rest, IMHO, are little more than hangers-on. Flair continues to diminish his career with each stupid match with Mick Foley. He and Foley BOTH need to hang up the boots and move on. But, like pro athletes who don't know when to quit, they won't. And DC will gladly pay them more than they're worth to stay in hopes of getting old school fans to keep watching.
 
Yeah, and?

1. What the fuck do you know about TNA's financials other than what you read on dumb ass dirt sheets that you take for the whole truth?

2. Even if the wrestlers in the locker room were upset, again, who gives a fuck? Any of them quitting over this? Doubt it. They can bitch just like the IWC — won't affect it happening any.

1.I never said anything about knowing their financials so fuck you moron.

2.If you think this will do any good for TNA then your just as stupid as they are.

3.Don't tell me you don't read the Wrestling News either because I don't buy that.
 
1.I never said anything about knowing their financials so fuck you moron.

2.If you think this will do any good for TNA then your just as stupid as they are.

3.Don't tell me you don't read the Wrestling News either because I don't buy that.

1.) yeah you did.

2.) Crossover = money.

3.) Some people have enough gray matter to realize that not everything posted on the internet is "fact" especially reporters who are so often wrong and outright lying about what they write.

This is the prime example of a WWE mark, at the drop of a hat you will believe any anti-TNA report without so much as a second glance.
 
1.I never said anything about knowing their financials so fuck you moron.

2.If you think this will do any good for TNA then your just as stupid as they are.

3.Don't tell me you don't read the Wrestling News either because I don't buy that.

1. Yes you did, moron. The moment you even noted that dirt sheet report of the $15K you acknowledged that it was truth. Secondly, you noted that RAW doesn't pay their guest hosts, which insinuates that TNA is in fact paying for JWoww as reported on said dirt sheets, which again means you acknowledge it as truth.

2. Yeah right. I forgot how much cross-promotion fails. :rolleyes:

3. No one said I didn't read it too — I just don't take it all as truth like you.
 
So, WWE does Guest Hosts and it's okay. TNA signs a Jersey Shore member for ONE night considering there is a JERSEY SHORE GIMMICK on the TNA roster and it's a problem. Typical.

I actually saw this coming. I was expecting Ronnie or Situation however.

I'm okay with it. Why? Because it makes sense. It would be stupid if they appeared for no reason but considering there is a parody of them on the roster then obviously it would make sense for them to appear.

It's for entertainment purposes. Internet fans continue to embarrass yourselfs. Just because they payed her 15,000? That's putting money down on a fucking car, that's cheap. Main event wrestlers get paid nearly 200,000 depending on who you are.

Get the fuck over it.
 
Ten bucks says Robbie G. Starts using "come at me bro" to taunt Jay Lethal when he tries to get the X-title back. In which case the angle will have succeeded in making me laugh.
 
Erm.

WWE was bringing in pop culture celebs far before WCW ever did. Remember Wrestlemania I? Oh yeah. That seemed to work out pretty well for WWE. Maybe TNA wants to up ratings? Isn't that the point of having a TV show? To have high ratings and you know....MAKE MONEY????

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TNA IS WCW 2.0 ZOMG!!!!!!!
 
Erm.

WWE was bringing in pop culture celebs far before WCW ever did. Remember Wrestlemania I? Oh yeah. That seemed to work out pretty well for WWE. Maybe TNA wants to up ratings? Isn't that the point of having a TV show? To have high ratings and you know....MAKE MONEY????

TNA IS WCW 2.0 ZOMG!!!!!!!

I agree but Um....Ratings don't make money. At all. UFC draws 1.6 million viewers but their PPV buyrates are bigger than WWE and TNA combined. Ratings creates awareness but only to a certain extent.

The only way TNA can make money off of JWow is unless she signed an actual wrestling contract and was apart of the Knockouts Division. She will pop ratings and give "The Shore" gimmick some credibility.
 
Ratings absolutely draw money — they just do so indirectly. Ratings are what sponsors look at, as well as anyone looking to advertise during TNA's programming. TNA is paid to run their commercials. The higher the ratings, the more money they get from bigger advertisers.
 
I'm surprised people are upset by this. how is this a bad move? are you paying attention?
TNA has a new story line about the "Jersey Shore", and now they bring in someone actually from the TV show "Jersey Shore". this isn't just some random celebrity brought just because they are a celebrity, this has to do with a story line TNA is actually using.
WWE brings in celebrities just because they are celebrities and have no connection to anything actually going on. THAT is stupid, not what TNA is doing.
I myself have never seen the show and didn't even know who this JWoww was. looking at the picture, at least she's hot! the only Jersey Show people I've heard of is the Situation(stupid name) and Snookie. I'm glad it wasn't Snookie coming in, shes ugly IMO.

there is something funny about this though. TNA doing a Jersey Shore story line. the MTV show Jersey Shore is on Thursday nights the exact same time Impact is on. now JWoww will be on Impact. so do JWoww fans watch her on Jersey Shore or Impact? I'm pretty sure Jersey Shore repeats again at other times where Impact does not, so maybe more people will watch JWoww on Impact.

IMO it's a good move by TNA.
 
As long as they are not bring Robocop in its fine.

More than likely this is all to try to fix the disasterous debut of "the shore" by having one of the actual jersey shore people give them some much needed heat. Plus we will more than likely see 2 women with really big cans have a catfight /cheer :)
 
ratings do make money. otherwise why would networks care about ratings so much.
it's all about the commercials. shows with higher ratings get more money in commercials.
 
It dosen't work out and people aren't intrested- You loose $15,000.00 - nothing for a company like TNA

IT does work out though and you tap into one of the largest fanbases in the U.S. right now, and a fanbase that is in your target demographic.. Huge Reward, small risk

This guy(?) has the right idea. Jwow is being brought into further a storyline and bring in viewers that populate the same demographic TNA is going for.

If it works, that's you could bring in tons of new viewers that might get hooked on the Shore gimmick. It also isn't awful because it makes complete sense to use a JS cast member to draw even more heel heat for your JS parody.

If it fails, so what, it's not like the 5 minutes max that Jwow will spend talking (with Eckos and Bayless in the ring with her) will be the straw that sends TNA viewers away.
 
I just read that Jwow's appearance on Thursday's Impact was already talked about on Fox News In New York, This has already getting TNA main stream exposer they are being talked about on the news. This is a very smart business move by TNA to get some Mainstream exposer.
 
I agree but Um....Ratings don't make money. At all. UFC draws 1.6 million viewers but their PPV buyrates are bigger than WWE and TNA combined. Ratings creates awareness but only to a certain extent.

The only way TNA can make money off of JWow is unless she signed an actual wrestling contract and was apart of the Knockouts Division. She will pop ratings and give "The Shore" gimmick some credibility.

The higher the ratings...the higher the exposure to the public. The more public exposure, the higher the price advertisers are willing to pay for commercial time. Higher price = more $. pretty simple.
 
Erm.

WWE was bringing in pop culture celebs far before WCW ever did. Remember Wrestlemania I? Oh yeah. That seemed to work out pretty well for WWE. Maybe TNA wants to up ratings? Isn't that the point of having a TV show? To have high ratings and you know....MAKE MONEY????

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TNA IS WCW 2.0 ZOMG!!!!!!!

FUCK THIS COMPANY...Sorry Jim Cornette needed that quote under his picture.

Coming from a show that is still incredibly popular to try and put over a guy and a girl with a gimmick based on that show, I think this could do TNA some good. We've already mentioned the chance of JS fans wanting to tune into Impact despite Jersey Shoe and Impact running at the same time, but remember that there is also another group of people that is usually overlooked: The people who have never seen Jersey Shore but are curious as to how the involement of a JS cast member is gonna turn out on a wrestling show. That's what I consider myself. And I have this feeling that provided this whole appearance gets the right amount of hype, more guys like me are probably gonna tune in. No matter how good or bad the segment is, I'm pretty confident that TNA will bring some more viewers to their product, which is pretty much all they want in the first place.

Considering the Shore is probably the first couple of wrestlers I've seen TNA actually try to hype the traditional way, despite how bad their debut was, I actually really want to see how far this group can go. Having Jwoww on an episode really can help the cross over appeal. I'm gonna be watching Impact and I'll be like, "Hey the parody is getting some love from the real thing!" And as much as having an over saturation of celebs on wrestling shows doesn't seem like the most poular idea, I think the best way to really put over the Shore is not only to have a member of the real Jersey Shore on there but to possibly actually have a pure crossover of JS and Impact where Jwoww shows up on Impact and maybe some more of the cast is in the audience cheering for her then maybe next week on JS her appearance on Impact is shown.
 
It's kinda smart on TNA's part since Jersey Shore gets triple TNA's ratings. I'm sure MTV will only allow her to appear in the 9 o'clock hour. Since Jersey Shore is on at 10. It may give TNA a slight ratings boost in the first hour, but the die hard Jersey Shore fans are going switch over to watch it. In my opinion TNA should wait a week or two when Jersey Shore's season is over. Then the people tuning in just to see her may watch the whole Impact.
 
1.) yeah you did.

2.) Crossover = money.

3.) Some people have enough gray matter to realize that not everything posted on the internet is "fact" especially reporters who are so often wrong and outright lying about what they write.

This is the prime example of a WWE mark, at the drop of a hat you will believe any anti-TNA report without so much as a second glance.

And this is a Prime example of a TNA Fanboy buying into anything Dixie & Co. throw at you. Excuse me for having an opinion as I thought this was Forum for that purpose. I guess I was wrong I didn't mean to offend the TNA Fanboys like you and Its Damn Real. So Sorry
 
And this is a Prime example of a TNA Fanboy buying into anything Dixie & Co. throw at you. Excuse me for having an opinion as I thought this was Forum for that purpose. I guess I was wrong I didn't mean to offend the TNA Fanboys like you and Its Damn Real. So Sorry

:lmao:

Says the guy with WWE is life as a username. Quoting Kurt Angle as a way to insult someone? Go outside and get some air. That basement is not working.

So, It's okay for Guest Hosts that include Bob Barker but J-Wow who is relevant it's a problem? Okay.

It's okay for WWE to reuse the screwjob with CM Punk, It's totally okay for WWE to reuse the Kane vs. Undertake feud and NWO angle with Nexus right? but it's a problem for TNA to do a heel turn in Florida. Okay.

I hope, I don't offend the thing between your ears. There dude.
 
I don't post much anymore, but I felt inclined to give my two cents on this.

First off, over 40 Million people watched the series finale of "Jersey Shore"? You have to be fuckin' kidding me, that right there is in-and-of itself pathetic. I'm so glad I don't have cable anymore, no wonder the "new generation" feels so inclined to be pieces of shit who think they are entitled to sitting atop a thrown.

Anyway, let me get on topic.

I agree that paying money for what is essentially a bimbo, who is known only for appearances on a show where she is portrayed as a borderline ******ed ****(I say portrayed, but in actuality it's more like a fact), is a dumb move by itself. However, like you all have pointed out, it does have relevance to the storyline TNA currently has going on with the stable "The Shore". So with those going hand in hand, I suppose it's a good move in theory to get over a stable with the crowd, seeing as how they kind of bombed in their debut.

My only question to you all is this.. Do you really want more fans tuning in to your program so badly that you'll accept the scumbags that actually enjoy "Jersey Shore"? My answer to that would be a resounding NO.

Yes, it may bring over a few viewers for one night. Yes, ratings may go up. But I compare this to Justin Bieber possibly performing at Wrestlemania. Will it attract attention to the company and thus create more buyrates? Possibly, yes. But I'd rather not have to sit through that just so WWE can get a few extra PPV buys from a bunch of horned up teenagers. No thanks.

So, bottom line is this. I don't see how anyone could enjoy anything remotely based on "Jersey Shore", therefore I don't understand how anyone could support a move to strengthen a stable portraying the worst types of personalities.
 
And the post above wins the reason the IWC sucks. Seriously, you come across so pretentious because you think you're better then the people who watch Jersey Shores? Have you seen, over the years, the sort of people that attend wrestling fans? We're talking lowest common denominator. And seeing, as you put it, 40 million scumbags watched Jersey Shores, if TNA can even get 1 per-cent of them to tune in that's a helluva improvement to their ratings and, you never know, they might become fans.

But you just sit behind your computer and piss all over a company trying to do something relevant to a large portion of the public to increase their product visibility, they're clearly just dumb
 
Firstly im totally not buying into this jersery shore gimmick, however at least TNA is spendin the cash on "trying" to further a storyline and not random acts for no reason.

15K does seem like a heavy price though ... however unlike most people am willing to let it run a bit longer, along with the "they" angle and hardy as champ etc etc.

NOTE !!! - doesnt this just proove though that Kevin Nash ISN'T leaving TNA ? he said he is due to money problems, if there going to blow 15K on a 1 off act for a storyline, am pretty sure they will have payed Nash what he asked for .... suppose thats for a completley different topic.
 
WOW its really humorous to listen to everyone bitch about TNA getting JWOWW for this weeks Impact. Previously everyone complains about TNA not being culturally relevant and then they complain when they bring in a gimmick and persona based from what is one of the highest rated TV shows for their key demographic. WWE has the guest host concept with z-list celebrities and they get shit on too but TNA brings in a Jersey Shore castmate and everyone cries. Hell JR even said in one of his recent blogs that the Jersey Shore cast should show up on Raw and would be a good fit for the show and audience....

Then there is the arguement that its not gonna help any. Well if a fraction of the Jersey Shore audience checks it out this week while waiting for Jersey Shore to come on MTV during the second hour of Impact then that is a good chunk of potential new viewers. Keep in mind that this is not a move to get hardcore wrestling fans such as us on the boards to tune in but rather the casual viewer. Even the press alone on TMZ and news outlets is a positive for TNA at this point cause it draws attention to their product.

Overall Jersey Shore is culturally relevant in today's media and especially for the key demographic TNA is focusing their product towards so it makes sense to capitalize if given the opportunity. Sure they might blow the segment and it will likely suck but its worth a shot.
 
Yall are being too harsh on Jersey Shore. That stuff is entertaining as hell. If Pro Wrestling can be good entertainment, why can't Jersey Shore be? I actually compare it to Pro Wrestling A LOT. Like wrestling, outside of the fans, people look at it as a joke. Like wrestling, the Jersey Shore cast is misunderstood because all people see are those crazy clips. Like wrestling, I watch Jersey Shore as a guilty pleasure because all my friends would make fun of me if I told them I watch. Two different products, two different fan bases, but both are very similar.
 
And the post above wins the reason the IWC sucks. Seriously, you come across so pretentious because you think you're better then the people who watch Jersey Shores? Have you seen, over the years, the sort of people that attend wrestling fans? We're talking lowest common denominator. And seeing, as you put it, 40 million scumbags watched Jersey Shores, if TNA can even get 1 per-cent of them to tune in that's a helluva improvement to their ratings and, you never know, they might become fans.

But you just sit behind your computer and piss all over a company trying to do something relevant to a large portion of the public to increase their product visibility, they're clearly just dumb

I put all your errors in bold, try reading back what you write before posting so you don't come across as inept.

Now lets break down your "argument" or "retort" to my opinion...

Seriously, you come across so pretentious because you think you're better then the people who watch Jersey Shore?

I wouldn't sit here and tell you that i'm better than every single person that watches that trash, but I will sit here and tell you that i'm better than 95% of them. Yes.

And why Is it I say that? Is it because, as you put it, i'm pretentios? Fuck no. It's because that show glorifies the absolute worst type of people on this planet. Undeserving assholes, or girls that have someone new inside of them each episode, either way they are all unjustifiably high and mighty pieces of shit that now believe the world revolves around them because sad and pathetic people are interested in their equally sad and pathetic lives.

Have you seen, over the years, the sort of people that attend wrestling shows? We're talking lowest common denominator.

Really? I'll admit I don't watch TNA much, like at all really, but I do tune in every one and a blue moon. I don't know if i'd say people who watch or attend the shows are the lowest of the low, i'm sure some are but not all.

And before you come back at me with "oh yeah, well you just used that same argument for people who watch Jersey Shore" let me stop you. In my mind there is no hypocrisy in my statement and me disagreeing with your statement. The fact is a vast variety of people, including families, watch wrestling. And the vast majority that watch Jersey Shore are the same who watch all the other MTV reality bullshit television shows and live their lives vicariously through characters they see. In essence, pieces of shit.

And seeing, as you put it, 40 million scumbags watched Jersey Shore, if TNA can even get 1 per-cent of them to tune in that's a helluva improvement to their ratings and, you never know, they might become fans.

Did I argue anything otherwise? No. Go back and read my initial post, I agreed that they may bring in some more viewers and that ratings may in fact rise from this publicity stunt sorta deal. But my question was would that really be a good thing? Go back and read my opinion on that, and how I compared it to what WWE was planning on doing at Wrestlemania. Then answer the question I posed, instead of trying to put non-existant words in my mouth.

But you just sit behind your computer and piss all over a company trying to do something relevant to a large portion of the public to increase their product visibility, they're clearly just dumb

In what way could you take anything I said as me "pissing" all over TNA? Like I stated above and in my initial post, I understand the relevance of the Jersey **** being signed to come on and further push a stable based on the stupid television show. And again, as stated, I agree that publicity would be gained from it and viewers may also be gained as well.

In my opinion the whole idea is just dumb, to base a stable around a bunch of pieces of shit on a television show just solely because it's popular is, in my mind, stupid. Thats just me. The main point is the question that I posed in my initial post, like I said go back and read it if you want.
 

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