Icon v. Icon: Sting v. Hogan in 2011?

[25andIstillpeethebed!!!]

The man has never done anything that bad for people to wish injury on him. your a fucking Moron!

Id pay money to watch Hogan get seriously injured in the ring! The Scumbag deserves it with all the horrible things he's done the past few years....I really hope he winds up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life

 

[mr.davidson]

What everyone is 4getting is this!!!

Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair bring Relivance to a tittle.

Doesnt matter how old they are give them a tittle and let them run with it and u will see how great that tittle starts to look.

Thats y both seem like they are doing nothing 4 that company its cause they dont have a tittle around their waste.

Think about what i am saying

when they held world tittles.. that tittle ment more then anything in the world..

Also that holds true 2 when they were older to... Ric held the IC tittle and brought so much relivance back to it, as did Hogan when he held the Tag Team tittles.

Doesnt matter what u think of their wrestling abilities.. U put the HW TNA tittle on Hogan... and u Watch just how much that Company will GROW!!!

End of Story

 

[rondiesel2005]

@ mr.davidson I understand what you are saying, but here is the thing. Hogan has injuries and even has a bad back and so are his hips. Just imagine right now he decides to wrestle Sting, what are we going to see. I tell you what we going to see, probably some very slow punches from Sting, a very slow pace from two of them. They can't make it believable right now for the championship. Right now in TNA the fans wants something different. They don't want a guy who supposedly running TNA to win the TNA world title. That's saying "fuck all them other guys they can't bring the ratings, so i show them how to" . Now remember the day Hogan showed up on TNA and also brought TNA to Monday nights, look at what the ratings were like??

Do you think they would bring back more fans by doing that. I watch Hogan vs Sting in wcw, all i can say is have to be very careful how the company books Sting because he can't have great match with just about anybody depending on their style in the ring. Thats why everybody on here don't want to see Hogan vs Sting because there are fans on here who watch WCW in the past knows what to expect from both of these man and they know they can not bring the ratings or draw interest enough for them to want to what it.

 

[Iversen]

Heres how I see it. The older fans have seen it so many times before and know how destroyed Hogans body is and therefore know how bad it will so they don't care.

The younger fans who don't watch TNA. Do they even know who Sting is? Do they care? Sure the bloody IWC (sorry just a hatred of that phrase and what it suggests) might care but a 12 year old who wasn't around during the MNWs has never heard of Sting and won't watch TNA to see him. In fact all they probably know about Hogan is what the WWE mentions of him and thats not much now adays.

So in essence I just don't think anyone gives a shit anymore. Hogan is in horrible shape and just shouldn't be in the ring for his own sake if for nothing else. He should rather than taking digs at Edge take note of what he's done and why he's done it. He may not be the nicest person in the world but I don't want to see Hulk Hogan in a wheelchair. Stings place should be putting over the young lads. He can hold that title for a while and eventually lose it to someone young and healthy who needs the credibility.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

First off, don't compare a match from ten years ago to what they could do today. Ten years ago they tried to "wrestle". I'm pretty sure both individuals know they can't do that. They'll make this a fight and in all honesty, its the best thing they can do. I think all of you saying "this will just suck" don't really know what your talking about. Your right if you say "the wrestling will suck" but it'll be the fight of the night on the card.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

@iversen Agreed but if it goes "Sting vs Anderson (losing to Anderson) for WHC and then he moves on to a feud with Hogan it does two really big things: Takes your two oldest (but still biggest draws) and pulls them away from the rest of the talent on the roster. Now you say "Ah but that sucks. They should be putting younger guys over!", but why? Let Anderson, RVD, Bully Ray, etc keep these younger guys involved in big feuds and let Sting/Hogan draw in the old school fans (mid 20s to mid 30s). People tune in to see a big part of their wrestling history (And playing off the nwo thing, as bad as some hate it, is actually kinda smart. A lot of old fans get a little excited with the thought "here we go again". People don't want to see the nwo in wwe. The name nwo is just a name. The reason people loved that storyline 10 years ago was the fights between sting and the nwo/Hogan. Their trying to recapture that spark and its brilliant.

Number two it gives the rest of the roster a spotlight to shine. With Hogan/Sting pulled away from the roster (in a sense), it gives you a chance to build your current roster into the WHC spotlight.

 

[Kitten Cutter]

First off:

Neither have ever been really technical and if they can give me 15 mins of brawling and a couple of spots Ill be really really happy. They have to do this match outside the iMPACT zone though and Slammaversery or BFG would be the perfect place.

15 minutes?! Do you really think either Sting or Hogan can go 15 minutes? You think the live audience could stand two separate offenses of punching, kicking, raking, eye gouging, and headlock restholds? And what spots do you expect to see, except maybe the signature moves and a few chair shots? Not only can I easily see them blown up after 8 minutes, but the audience getting really restless. You'd be lucky to get 10 minutes out of these two.

What everyone is 4getting is this!!!

Hulk Hogan or Ric Flair bring Relivance to a tittle.

Doesnt matter how old they are give them a tittle and let them run with it and u will see how great that tittle starts to look.

Thats y both seem like they are doing nothing 4 that company its cause they dont have a tittle around their waste.

Think about what i am saying

when they held world tittles.. that tittle ment more then anything in the world..

Also that holds true 2 when they were older to... Ric held the IC tittle and brought so much relivance back to it, as did Hogan when he held the Tag Team tittles.

Doesnt matter what u think of their wrestling abilities.. U put the HW TNA tittle on Hogan... and u Watch just how much that Company will GROW!!!

End of Story

The problem isn't relevance, it's mileage. Yes, TNA could give the belt to Ric Flair, or TNA could let Hogan win it, but what relevance do you want? National coverage? The only press it'd get is, "Hulk Hogan [or Ric Flair] is back in the saddle as the oldest man to be a top champion in another wrestling company." The national media barely sees TNA as a global wrestling company, let alone newsworthy when anything happens. If the newsmedia cared, the rating would have soared when Hogan first signed, AND when he had his matches vs. Abyss.

And what's worse, even if Hogan did win the title, how many title defenses would we get? You could cover for Hogan by giving him lots of offense and letting outside interference beat up his competition, but that only flies for so long. And that would de-value the title.

Takes your two oldest (but still biggest draws) and pulls them away from the rest of the talent on the roster. Now you say "Ah but that sucks. They should be putting younger guys over!", but why? Let Anderson, RVD, Bully Ray, etc keep these younger guys involved in big feuds and let Sting/Hogan draw in the old school fans (mid 20s to mid 30s). People tune in to see a big part of their wrestling history (And playing off the nwo thing, as bad as some hate it, is actually kinda smart. A lot of old fans get a little excited with the thought "here we go again". People don't want to see the nwo in wwe. The name nwo is just a name. The reason people loved that storyline 10 years ago was the fights between sting and the nwo/Hogan. Their trying to recapture that spark and its brilliant.

What old-school fans do you mean? People in their mid-30's were kids just before WCW went down and saw it fall apart because of Hogan, and people in their mid-20's now only remember the WWE and have no clue who Sting is. You think they'll come running to TNA, especially when Hogan has been back for a year plus now? When Hogan came in, they used Wolfpac music, brought back the Band, the Nasty Boys, and other nostalgic moments, and all that has resulted in a steady stream of ratings. And by the way, 10 years ago was 2001, when everything collapsed. Think 14-15 years ago for Sting vs. Hogan and the NWO.

And as for separating the older guys so the younger guys can run free, even with senior wrestlers Kurt Angle and Jeff Jarrett having their feud separate from everyone, who has it helped? How has the roster grown on its own?

And lastly:

If Jerry Lawler can, Hulk Hogan can.

Jerry Lawler can still move not just well, but extremely well for a man his age. He's lucked out by not having any major surgeries, and plus the guy actually wrestled in a TLC match (albeit limited), something that Hogan can't even attempt to do right now. Even if Lawler had actually won the WWE title due to his mother passing, I think the IWC would have accepted it over a guy who literally waddles to the ring and wears an extensive back brace. Right now, Hogan cannot take a bump without risking his health.

Overall:

Sting vs. Hulk Hogan I'm not against in practice but in principle. If they have a match I'll watch, but I don't think it'll be this big-time ratings draw or something to bring back more old-school fans. I think they could have a good old-fashioned brawl, but be very limited by what they could do and what spots they could execute, and hopefully the fans won't get overly disappointed if the match isn't up to par.

 

[mr.davidson]

Missed The Point again


Hogan and Flair know every angle on how a champion acts... talks give promos and pushes the belt 2 new levels...

Yes yes yes he is old we get it....

But just look at his interviews... and flairs interviews both in WWE and WCW... They draw u in and u focaus on the Tittle..... Which makes it hold alot more relevance.

Sry 2 say the new generation just cant make the belt seem important.. not cause they r not great wrestlers.. cause they are.... way better then Flair or Hogan.... But what they lack is the Skill 2 make the Tittle seem important..

This is a skill that belongs 2 very few people....

So like i said.. U give the Belt 2 a Guy like Hoagn.. and he will use his limit skills.. and other great abilities 2 make the TNA Tittle... Greater then it has been in the Past!!!!

Then give it 2 the New generation... and let them build off of what he creates

 

[db29615]

the only way you going to see a good match between sting and hogan, is to watch their match at starcade.

 

[He's Phenomenal]

I’ve got to admit, my heart was racing and it felt like something epic when Hogan and Sting had their stare down at Lockdown. I don’t really remember too much about their feud leading to Starrcade 97, just the fact it was huge. I can understand these guys are pretty old (I just quoted 1997 as one of their matches) but it really doesn’t matter to me. Both characters are iconic. I don’t for a second think it would be a great match but it’s definitely something I would like to see.

I stopped watching wrestling for a long time and the top guys at the time were Hulk Hogan, Goldberg, Sting, Stone Cold and Undertaker. And to be honest, no current wrestler compares to these guys. Although Mr Anderson looks as though he could be the next iconic star in pro wrestling (I appreciate it’s unlikely to happen on the level of the above while TNA is the underdog). But what I’m trying to say is, because I didn’t watch wrestling for about a decade, my opinion on the veterans may be different to others.

One of the reasons I like TNA so much is because they have wrestlers that I recognise from watching as a kid (Rob Van Dam, Hulk Hogan, Kurt Angle, Team 3D etc) and they also have wrestlers that I’ve grown to like (AJ Styles, Mr Anderson, James Storm, Matt Morgan etc). But I would never have started watching TNA if I hadn’t seen guys like Kurt Angle and Kevin Nash. Therefore never getting the chance to see the AJ Styles of this World. So I don’t think Hogan vs Sting would be a bad thing at all. IMO that could still attract fans. And that says more about today’s wrestlers, and wrestling in general, than anything. If TNA do go down the Hogan/Sting route, I don’t think you can criticise TNA, Hogan or Sting. You should be looking at the wrestling business itself, that didn’t produce any real stars in the decade I stopped watching, apart from maybe Cena. He’s not somebody I like but I can’t deny he’s a huge star.

AJ Styles is my favourite wrestler, but IMO, Hogan vs Sting (in this day and age) would still draw more than AJ Styles vs Doug Williams or AJ Styles vs Chris Sabin. I believe that people would be more inclined to tune into two great characters going at it, rather than two great wrestlers. I have mates who hadn’t watched wrestling for years but tuned into Raw (for about 10 minutes – they quickly realised it had totally changed) when The Rock returned. They may not have watched Raw since, but they did tune in. I can only base my opinion on the reaction to wrestling over here in England. And I understand it’s totally different in the States, as it’s looked at as more of a sport. Where as in England, it’s more of a soap opera type deal. And over here, the characters are definitely more important than the guys with the good wrestling ability.

But after saying all that, I don’t think Hogan and Sting should fight over the World Title. Perhaps they could fight over the control of TNA instead? IMO, the World Title picture should consist of guys like Mr Anderson, AJ Styles, Matt Morgan, Rob Van Dam, Kurt Angle and The Pope.

 

[Jeremy5144]

From the start of this thread we have our answer to the reason that Sting didn't sign a deal for Wrestlemania and a Hall of Fame spot in WWE and the match the fans obviously wanted because he wants Hogan in a final match in TNA.

TNA needs to catapult themselves and get mainstream this is their answer and it's basically all they've got. The objective is to sell tickets and fill arenas greater than 5,000 and this may accomplish that. The two most well known names in TNA right now will have to get this done. It's sad that this is how it has to be but this is how a mainstream audience is engaged in the product.

The thing is that Bound for Glory to have any relevance needs a Wrestlemania like feel to it and they are inching closer to something better than what they've had in the past and given the Rock vs. Cena the pressure is on for them to deliver.

This makes it almost certain that Hogan vs Sting will happen at Bound for Glory.

 

[Brian in Austin]

For the first time since Fall Brawl 1999? If you caught Lockdown tonight, it sure as shit seems so, no?

As Hogan came to ringside to offer the steel pipe to RVD as a means to get him to join Immortal, both RVD and Anderson denied him. Sting picked up the victory to retain, and in the process challenged Hogan from the gate to step into the ring. Hogan mouthed a number of response back, one of which noted something to the extent of "You and I, on my time, brother".

Thoughts on this? What do you think the chances are of this actually happening? Could this actually draw, or has the time far surpassed the opportunity to have these two go toe-to-toe considering all of Hogan's injuries and the age of both men?

Well I for one certainly hope we never see a match between Hogan and Sting. For one, HH is in no condition to be in the ring anymore, regardless of his age. He physically can't do this anymore and moreover it might even be a dangerous situation for him given all the issues he's had recently with his back. Secondly I'm not sure this would even be a good storyline/booking for TNA. Allow me to explain. My chief concern when HH signed with TNA was that it would become about HH. Now, to a certain degree it needed to as TNA needed the publicity that HH brings to any television show, much less a wrestling show. With that said, since he's been there and for the most part, he's remained a very big part of the weekly storylines which takes the focus off of the younger wrestlers who need both the mic and ring time, instead of the continual backstage segments and promos with HH that TNA keeps feeding us. As a casual observer to the business of wrestling, it appears to me that those actually running TNA have hitched their wagon to HH hoping he alone is able to carry the load and compete with the WWE which has proven to be a very big challenge for TNA and Hogan to overcome.

So now I am examining why TNA would take this approach between Hogan and Sting. Is this a work to get people thinking there would be an actual match? Or is the plan to have TNA bring in a new face (i.e. Carlito, Batista) that would shock not only the wrestling world, but Sting. (so to speak/speaking in storyline terms.) Maybe they turn AJ heel again and insert him into a championship match with Sting at an upcoming PPV? It's hard to say at this point, but I just don't see how this turns out being a positive for TNA. Again it just seems like they are putting all their eggs in one basket and praying it works out in the end. To that end, I would ask this. How did it work out with Jeff Hardy and Sting?

 

[Brian in Austin]

From the start of this thread we have our answer to the reason that Sting didn't sign a deal for Wrestlemania and a Hall of Fame spot in WWE and the match the fans obviously wanted because he wants Hogan in a final match in TNA.

TNA needs to catapult themselves and get mainstream this is their answer and it's basically all they've got. The objective is to sell tickets and fill arenas greater than 5,000 and this may accomplish that. The two most well known names in TNA right now will have to get this done. It's sad that this is how it has to be but this is how a mainstream audience is engaged in the product.

The thing is that Bound for Glory to have any relevance needs a Wrestlemania like feel to it and they are inching closer to something better than what they've had in the past and given the Rock vs. Cena the pressure is on for them to deliver.

This makes it almost certain that Hogan vs Sting will happen at Bound for Glory.

While I don't disagree with your theory, do you really feel that people would pay a PPV fee to watch Hogan, in his condition, against Sting? Now, would it get mainstream attention beyond wrestling? I mean, if that's what you're asking, my answer would be maybe. But I just don't see how physically HH can work a match worth watching unless Sting is prepared to job to him, and quickly, in a PPV match. Which would be ironic given what happened with Sting/Hardy at a previous PPV and how that one ended. I just believe they are again over-building to an event where the players involved won't be able to deliver on the hype.

Now the big difference here between WWE and TNA is that fans understand that WWE has Raw to fall back on if a major PPV doesn't deliver on Sunday night. TNA has...well...impact. And like it or not, it's just not as good as Raw. In fact, I'd put it on par with Smackdown, giving smackdown a slight edge in production quality. I do think that TNA has comparable talent, but again, with Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo being involved in the booking and production of Impact, I think they are underserving both the talent on their roster and the fans.

 

[Kitten Cutter]

Hey Mr.Davison,

Wen u rite like this u sound like a 2 year old. englsh is a nice way to spaek and rite, try Lerning it. piking up a book, mybe a dicshunary is a god idea 2. just sayin. u wuld b takn more seriosly abut the TNA tittle, hulk hogan and sting if yur rite like a Grwn Up! Yay!

Anyway, I see your point. They have the history and legacy on their side, and Hogan and Flair are agruably the most charismatic of the talent in TNA, and fans would be riveted, but in the end, it all has to culminate on what happens in the ring. Yeah, Hogan could be TNA World Champion, but he could pull what he pulled in WCW and spend months at a time never defending the title. And that (surprise, surprise) KILLS the relevance of the TNA World Championship. Yeah, they could have epic promos and great segments of stables attacking each other, and then give us another 82 second PPV main event when Hogan's knee explode, crushed by his own ego.

And as for this being the counter to The Rock vs. John Cena, problem is those two right now AT THE PRESENT TIME are more relevant than Hogan and Sting. Hogan's star is slightly faded and Sting has never been in the public eye, while John Cena and The Rock are both presently doing movies and are at the forefront of the WWE. Therefore, I really don't think Hogan vs. Sting number 5 will draw anything more than another million buys at the most. It'll make them money but not enough for it to be a relevant amount.

 

[ERorMACro]

Hogan vs Sting in 2011 is a horrid idea...I mean hogan can hardly walk..Sting should be retiring soon but he's smart, savvy, and still in good enough shape to put on the occasional good match against the right opponent...but Hogan..he's really got nothing left so far as in ring goes.

I don't know too many people that will be stoked to see this kind of match take place at this point in time.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

Did you enjoy Vince McMahon vs Bret Hart?

Yes, I did, actually. It was what it was supposed to be.

As for Sting vs. Hogan..I'll pass. In 1994, there wasn't a match I wanted to see more (with the exception of Hogan vs. Bret Hart).

In 2011? It wouldn't go over very well. Sting moves better than any 52 year old I've ever seen, so I'm not worried about him. Hogan, on the other hand, is just shy of being a full-on cripple. He can barely walk, this won't draw any money (Flair vs. Hogan didn't), it does nothing to better TNA, etc. I just don't see the point, especially if Sting is still World champion.

Hogan vs. Sting is done. It happened past its time in 1997 and 1998. It should have taken place in 1994/95, but Hogan just couldn't bring himself to put Sting over. Again, I see no point in this.

 

[Jackal960]

I agree with Nick. Aren't we always saying WCW failed because they didn't put on new wrestlers but instead continued with the same maineventers? Instead of bringing youngsters they put on same old guys? Then how can you defend Hogan vs Sting? They might have their storyline going on a lower degree, but i really have difficulty believing Hogan will agree anywhere lower than mainevent.

 

[AntiChristDeicide]

I agree with Nick. Aren't we always saying WCW failed because they didn't put on new wrestlers but instead continued with the same maineventers? Instead of bringing youngsters they put on same old guys? Then how can you defend Hogan vs Sting? They might have their storyline going on a lower degree, but i really have difficulty believing Hogan will agree anywhere lower than mainevent.

Agreed, look i like Hulk Hogan but his back is wrecked beyond repair. The day Hogans isn't in a Main-Event, is the day that hell will freeze over.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

Hogan hasn't wrestled in over a year's time and sure there might be teases at a possible Hogan vs Sting match but they teased this a year ago as well and it still didn't happen. Hogan's got plenty of cronies in his Immortal stable that can be his proxy and with the state of Hogan's health that is probably what's going to happen. For Hogan's best interests and for those who can say that at one time or another they were his fans, let us all hope that he does not try to even get back in that ring to wrestle. I personally don't see him coming back but if he does, I know I'll be disappointed but for the fuckheads that are bitching about Hogan wrestling again, wait till there's actually an official announcement that he's coming back to the ring and THEN you can bitch.

But all the Hogan haters keep bitching about the guy still actively competing when he hasn't even done so in a year's plus time, where's the sense in all of that when he hasn't worked a match since March of 2010? Newflash, you fucking morons have no argument until you actually know for a fact he's going to be getting back in the ring.

 

[Dagger Dias]

I think that this match could draw, based simply on the names involved. However both guys are old and would have injury issues. They are nowhere near where they were back in WCW. Even though they are past their prime it could be cool to see due to it being two legends in an icon VS icon match. Hogans injuries would be the biggest and most obvious problem so the match would not live up to fans expectations because they would be expecting a dream match instead of a likely one sided victory to prevent further injury.

 

[ProtomanV2]

Medically Hogan cannot wrestle ever again. and he shouldn't even if he could. TNA is destroying everything Hogan ever was and i wouldnt think he needed money so i am quite confused as to why he is going along with it in all honesty

 

[MoeIsBetter]

The only reason he would wrestle again is if he really is trying to make TNA succeed. No other reason to wrestle at all.

 

[MB1025]

Medically Hogan cannot wrestle ever again. and he shouldn't even if he could. TNA is destroying everything Hogan ever was and i wouldnt think he needed money so i am quite confused as to why he is going along with it in all honesty

Show me the proof were it says he can not wrestle again because I would love to see it.


As far as the topic goes this most likely won't happen till BFG and it better not be for the world title. It better be for control of the company were if Sting wins Dixie gets total control and if Hogan wins he keeps the company. I am sure the next BFG will have a Starrcade 1997 theme. Almost everything will be TNA vs. Immortal.

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

Show me the proof were it says he can not wrestle again because I would love to see it.


As far as the topic goes this most likely won't happen till BFG and it better not be for the world title. It better be for control of the company were if Sting wins Dixie gets total control and if Hogan wins he keeps the company. I am sure the next BFG will have a Starrcade 1997 theme. Almost everything will be TNA vs. Immortal.

That's if it happens at all, again Hogan has not wrestled in over a year's time, so we'll have to wait and see if he even has another match again. Sure you are right when you said that there is no proof that he can't wrestle ever again, but I haven't seen him rushing to return to action since that one episode of Impact last March.

I share the same feelings you do in that Hogan and Sting better not be for the World Title, but the bottom line is Hogan-Sting has to happen in the first place. If you're a fan of WCW like I was, then you'll know that the proxy idea I brought up in my last post could very well be what's going to happen with Sting and Hogan. If you remember, in the early 90s in WCW, Ric Flair went up against his old rival Harley Race by proxy when Race was managing Vader.

And yes I know we're talking about someone like Hogan here who has had his reputation for having an ego over the years, but to give the benefit of the doubt, even he might realize that another match is not a realistic possibility. However he has a whole stable of guys that can go up against Sting in his place. Time will tell what's going on and not that I think you're one of the posters on this thread that I'm about to say this to, I am going to use this post I am writing to say it. For all the fuckheads that are thinking that Hogan vs Sting is a guarantee or that's what the OP even suggested please read the damn thread title, there's a "?" right at the end of it, that should say it all.

This still has not been confirmed and just like last year when people were hearing that Hogan-Abyss was going to happen for the TNA World Title, let's all just play the game of wait and see...thank you!

 

[TheHitMark-SirJoseOle]

No that match was bad, but Bret Hart could'nt wrestle, it's not his fault. It was to end the storyline between that was from Survivor Series 1997. To be honest, they had to do it. And Bret hasn't wrestled in 9 year's. I wasn't very optimistic of the match in any fashion, I knew it wouldn't be good, but it made sense, didn't hold anybody down, and it ended the long-running storyline of "Vince screwed Bret."

Physical retaliation (hopefully that word isn't too much, I know you have problems with the English language, lad) on Bret's part was more than accomplished the same night Bret got screwed, to be honest here was never a need for the WrestleMania 26 match, I don't care what anyone says. With this stupid Anonymous GM storyline that to be has taken so long now it's lost its charm, a tried and true power struggle angle could have been executed between Bret and Vince to "settle their differences". Yeah it's not as glamorous as having them in a match but if Bret's medical status was as bad as it's been said to be why waste the spot that this "match" got on the card? Bottom line, Bret vs Vince at WM as well as stupid gimmicks like Santino Marella winning a battle royal in drag keep contests like The Miz and Morrison vs The Colons off WrestleMania shows. A real shitty booking move if you ask me. But it figures that some new age mark like yourself who I have a good feeling doesn't appreciate wrestling would say something like that.

Because you see in my day as a fan EVERY title in the promotion had a spot at WrestleMania and then the rest of the show would be figured out afterwards. These days historic titles (which in wrestling were essential plot devices) like the IC, United States and Tag Team Titles are not uncommon to be shit on these days and become a booking afterthought. Fact is, we didn't need Bret vs Vince EVER at WrestleMania 26, matches like this as I have said are what really hold back the young talent. I'm sorry if you're some mark that can't see that, but that's your problem not mine. And the fact is what sense does it make to have a match where you know a legend like Bret could not be the caliber of wrestling he once was? I'm a Bret Hart fan (which is obvious) but even I couldn't get into a shitfest like he and Vince had at WM.

The difference is, Hogan's a egotistical jerk. If he got the change to win the TNA Championship, trust me he would do it. There's no reason to do it, other than to have Hogan in a Championship match, in Hogan's benefit. If Hogan's win's the TNA Championship, he'll be the iceberg to the Titantic that is TNA. It'll sink.

Here's a newsflash for you mark, Hogan could have won the TNA World Title from the very day he walked into the organization, I am sure if he wanted to he could have just told Dixie Carter that on the anniversary of the Fingerpoke of Doom he wanted the TNA Title and they would have given it to him. Not to say that it couldn't happen one day with him at the helm of the company, but I have yet to see Hogan actually put himself in a title match and it doesn't appear to be on the list of his priorities, again the guy hasn't wrestled in a year's plus time. I think that should say something and as the OP stated in his subject there's a question mark at the end of the subject line. Therefore, he's acknowledging Hogan vs Sting as speculation not fact. From how you're talking you're making it seem like as if this match has been signed, sealed and delivered. Your comparison with Bret Hart to Hulk Hogan in this post is utterly stupid. Because while Hogan only wrestled one match since coming to TNA and it was a tag team match where Hogan didn't even get a pinfall, Bret Hart has "wrestled" several matches.

One being a WrestleMania contest where a match with younger talent could have transpired, the other being a US Title victory over Miz, and another being a Main Event spot in SummerSlam 2010's tag team main event. I might concede on the WrestleMania match with Vince because yes while I feel it was a match that put Bret's health at risk, it mad storyline sense. But you try justifying for me why Bret Hart was put in a main event spot on a pay per view or even given a title just so he could turn around and vacate it a week later. And give me an actual reason with merit, don't use your obvious hatred of Hulk Hogan to structure an argument here like most idiots like yourself typically do.

Can you even make a lick of sense to save yourself from embarrassment? Again, I am not saying that I am eager to want to see Hulk Hogan win another World Title, but at the same time I don't see it necessarily happening for reasons such as Hogan's health and it has yet to happen. But I always love being able to call out some mark on a stupid bullshit statement like I just read from you.

You truly are a piss poor example of what a wrestling fan is...or should I rephrase that? Because I keep forgetting that people of my generation are a dying breed, because what is it that you folks call it these days? Oh yeah sports entertainment, well if that's the case I apologize in advance, not to you, but to any wrestling fan I might have offended by considering you to be one of us.