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Icon v. Icon: Sting v. Hogan in 2011?

For those of us that grew up on WCW, this match is a dream come true for us. I never watched WWF as a kid so seeing Sting/Hogan stare down is like its picking up where we left of 10 years ago. Sure WWE signged WCWs stars but they weren't "our" stars by that time anymore. The magic Goldberg had in WCW NEVER carried over to the WWE. Booker T (even with the title run) was never the same as he was in WCW with Harlem Heat, etc. So it looks like TNA are trying to bring back a core group of fans with a HUGE nostalgia fight. Is it smart? Well, its got me tuning in on Thursdays and I wasn't even watching wrestling before I heard Sting/Hogan were feuding on an adult themed wrestling show.
 
Major Update:

A report from The Wrestling Observer is noting that word out of the TNA locker room says that Hogan wants to face Sting in the main event of Bound For Glory 2011, and that Hogan is training for a potential return to the ring.

In an interview with R.A.W. this past Monday, Hogan did note that the idea of him coming back was "50/50", but that if all goes well with his back surgeries, that number could change later in the year.
 
Id pay money to watch Hogan get seriously injured in the ring! The Scumbag deserves it with all the horrible things he's done the past few years....I really hope he winds up in a wheelchair for the rest of his life


Its one thing to not like someone and say fuck them, But you show how low of a lifeform you are when wishing death or injury on some one just cause you dont like them. scumbag!
 
Major Update:

A report from The Wrestling Observer is noting that word out of the TNA locker room says that Hogan wants to face Sting in the main event of Bound For Glory 2012, and that Hogan is training for a potential return to the ring.

In an interview with R.A.W. this past Monday, Hogan did note that the idea of him coming back was "50/50", but that if all goes well with his back surgeries, that number could change later in the year.

he wants to face Sting at this year bound For Glory. I am just curious about how this match gonna play out and how can they make this different from the matches they had at WCW. If their plan is to put the belt on Hogan, that is not a good move for the company
 
This match "sounds" good. You have two of the biggest legends in pro wrestling squaring off in the main event of TNA's flagship pay per view. This should be a wrestling fan's dream, but I have to look at this from a realistic point of view. Sting is up there in age, and he isn't what he used to be in the ring, and Hogan's back has been through hell. Hogan has admitted the torture he's had to go through when it comes to his back, so he can't be in any type of shape to work a watchable match.

I'm guessing Sting would hold on to the World Title until Bound For Glory, and I wouldn't be surprised if Hogan won the strap, but where could Hogan go from there? I can't imagine him having a reign that would be worthwhile.

If you just want to see two legends lock it up on a big stage, then this match could be something you really want to watch, but I can't see Hogan and Sting having a decent or passable match, and the aftermath of this whole thing really bothers me.
 
Hogan vs Sting sounds good, but realistically its about a decade or so late to be worthwhile.

Stings lost a few steps, but he can still work a decent match, whether he'd be able to coax one from a near crippled Hogan is another matter though. Also, it scares the hell out of me that there might be a chance of Hogan winning the title to placate his ego. I honestly don't know where you could go from there, he couldn't work a feud surely.

Just seems a bad idea all round to me, i hope his back isnt well enough to do the match if i'm honest as it would seem a bad move for the storyline and Hogans health if he could somehow 'compete'.
 
This match, to me, could really work if there's a third person in it. Say ... Robert Roode? Roode is a young, tough guy. He can do the work in the match so the chances of Hogan landing on his motherboard and breaking it are minimized. Hell, if they put him over that'd be pure gold. Just a thought.
 
If this is even being considered, it's another horrible booking idea by TNA. Can they NOT find enough talent on their roster to book SOMEONE, ANYONE against Sting? So are we supposed to believe they have a roster loaded with talent or not? Or is the only talented wrestlers they have are the likes of RVD, Sting, and Hogan? For whatever reason they won't put the strap on Anderson, won't take it off of Sting, and have AJ busy working a storyline with Bully Ray. I know. Let's put Robert Roode in this match with Hogan and Sting!! What? On what premise? Oh wait....I forgot. This is TNA. They make it up minute by minute so storylines are started and thrown out/forgotten on a weekly basis. Why not this one right? Nevermind HOW they get there as long as Roode winds up with the belt right? LOL
 
If this is even being considered, it's another horrible booking idea by TNA. Can they NOT find enough talent on their roster to book SOMEONE, ANYONE against Sting? So are we supposed to believe they have a roster loaded with talent or not? Or is the only talented wrestlers they have are the likes of RVD, Sting, and Hogan? For whatever reason they won't put the strap on Anderson, won't take it off of Sting, and have AJ busy working a storyline with Bully Ray. I know. Let's put Robert Roode in this match with Hogan and Sting!! What? On what premise? Oh wait....I forgot. This is TNA. They make it up minute by minute so storylines are started and thrown out/forgotten on a weekly basis. Why not this one right? Nevermind HOW they get there as long as Roode winds up with the belt right? LOL

There was a roster full of people for Hogan to face instead of Rock back in the day as well. Same goes for Hogan and Andre. Like it or not, Sting and Hogan are legends and they had legendary feuds, there are people out there who are interested in this match, and I'm one of them, because I'm a fan, not a critic. Are they old? Fuck yeah? Can they go? Not Hogan. Does it matter? Not really. We saw Piper and Snuka have at it at Royal Rumble 2008, Piper looked like shit, Snuka couldn't move, but the arena blew up when their music hit and they were going at it in the ring. That's fans popping, not smarks. If Rock and Austin were both fucking 60, I would still want to see them have a match. It's not because it's going to be a great contest, it's just Rock and Austin. Things like that will sell more than AJ vs Daniels, I guarantee it.

As far as why Roode would be included in the match? Simple. Simple as pie, but only if you actually watched TNA. Remember last week when Roode said that HE is going to be the guy that's going to stand up to Hulk Hogan? There you go. Fourtine is helping Sting? Contradicition? No problem. All he has to say is that if he has to go through Sting and his World Title to get to Hogan - so be it. The end justifies the means. Boom, triple threat match.
 
Would a match between Hogan & Sting draw interest from anyone? Maybe the regular viewers of the lemonparty website (google at your own risk), thats about it. However, I think the question is not whether or not this match would draw, the question is do we really wast to see Hogan get crippled or worse on a ppv? The guy is not in good health & was 15 years past his prime the first time they wrestled. Quite frankly, the only reason it was interesting the first time was because of its place in history. All of the people who actually remember that history already have the DVD or know how to use youtube, no one else will care....except, of course, the lemonparty crowd.
 
There was a roster full of people for Hogan to face instead of Rock back in the day as well. Same goes for Hogan and Andre. Like it or not, Sting and Hogan are legends and they had legendary feuds, there are people out there who are interested in this match, and I'm one of them, because I'm a fan, not a critic. Are they old? Fuck yeah? Can they go? Not Hogan. Does it matter? Not really. We saw Piper and Snuka have at it at Royal Rumble 2008, Piper looked like shit, Snuka couldn't move, but the arena blew up when their music hit and they were going at it in the ring. That's fans popping, not smarks. If Rock and Austin were both fucking 60, I would still want to see them have a match. It's not because it's going to be a great contest, it's just Rock and Austin. Things like that will sell more than AJ vs Daniels, I guarantee it.

As far as why Roode would be included in the match? Simple. Simple as pie, but only if you actually watched TNA. Remember last week when Roode said that HE is going to be the guy that's going to stand up to Hulk Hogan? There you go. Fourtine is helping Sting? Contradicition? No problem. All he has to say is that if he has to go through Sting and his World Title to get to Hogan - so be it. The end justifies the means. Boom, triple threat match.





So you are essentially admitting that people really aren't interested in a couple of the originals of TNA in Daniels or Styles and instead are more interested in geezers like Hogan and Sting. Thanks for admitting I've been right all along about TNA.
 
So you are essentially admitting that people really aren't interested in a couple of the originals of TNA in Daniels or Styles and instead are more interested in geezers like Hogan and Sting. Thanks for admitting I've been right all along about TNA.

Absolutely. I said that this match will SELL more than AJ vs Daniels, it has better promotional value, and don't forget there's a big, dormant WCW following out there who are no longer wrestling fans. You need to cater to those people too, see what happens. TNA has been pleasing its own 1.5 million crowd for 3 years, and it never got them anywhere. An AJ vs Daniels match won't make the company grow, it would sure as hell please the current TNA fans but it will never draw anyone else in. Hogan vs Sting, like it or not, is a match that ALL wrestling fans can enjoy, not just TNA fans. It's not going to be an amazing contest of strength and athleticism, but it draws attention to a PPV like Bound for Glory. The old fucks garner the attention, the young guys make the PPV worth everyone's time. Knowing Hogan and Sting they'll make this feud into a golden one. Two of the best workers on the mic? Yes fucking please. With this "home grown talent wins all" attitude TNA will go absolutely nowhere. They have some of the biggest names in the business on that roster, you might as well utilize them. It's a one time thing, it'll garner attention, Hogan's not winning the belt - no harm done.

And by the way, you're never right about TNA.
 
I wouldn't mind seeing this match at BFG if, 1) It's not the main event. 2) There's no title on the line. 3) Have it be a final farewell for both, ending the Imortal storyline, and starting something fresh.
 
Sting will turn heel and Hogan will waddle out there in the red and yellow. The match will last less then 5 minutes, Hogan will no-sell most of Sting's offense, take no bumps, and pin Sting clean with the legdrop of doom. Most of the tickets will be comps, give aways, and Hogan's biker buddies, so the crowd will pop huge because Hogan won just like he did 20 years ago when they last went to a rasslin show. He will then hold the title for about a year, defend it against Ric Flair and Ed Leslie, before dropping it to the rookie in his first match by a stipulated DQ caused by Jimmy Hart.

Sound familiar?
 
Absolutely. I said that this match will SELL more than AJ vs Daniels, it has better promotional value, and don't forget there's a big, dormant WCW following out there who are no longer wrestling fans. You need to cater to those people too, see what happens. TNA has been pleasing its own 1.5 million crowd for 3 years, and it never got them anywhere. An AJ vs Daniels match won't make the company grow, it would sure as hell please the current TNA fans but it will never draw anyone else in. Hogan vs Sting, like it or not, is a match that ALL wrestling fans can enjoy, not just TNA fans. It's not going to be an amazing contest of strength and athleticism, but it draws attention to a PPV like Bound for Glory. The old fucks garner the attention, the young guys make the PPV worth everyone's time. Knowing Hogan and Sting they'll make this feud into a golden one. Two of the best workers on the mic? Yes fucking please. With this "home grown talent wins all" attitude TNA will go absolutely nowhere. They have some of the biggest names in the business on that roster, you might as well utilize them. It's a one time thing, it'll garner attention, Hogan's not winning the belt - no harm done.

And by the way, you're never right about TNA.


So, how come a match between Hogan and Sting would garner attention? When, mind you, neither of them have garner attention to begin with.

You say this match will sell? While seeing most of the remark's on this possible match, I don't think many people want to see it. Sure, you can try to garner to the old nogastical WCW fan's all you want, but seeing as though TNA's marketing scheme is, I doubt they'll even know about it, or care. It's not a match all wrestling fan's wil enjoy. Most of the fan's, like me, have moved on from 1997 and see no reason to have this match in 2011. I'm pretty sure, outside of the core audience of 1.2 million people who watch this product, that the people who don't watch this product will generally not care about 2 old men going at it.

Hogan's TNA run is still a flop, and Sting's comback is as well. Their two guy's who don't draw anymore. You have to realize, TNA is a growing company and the only to grow is to move on from the old-rehashed storyline's and wrestler's who were relevant 15 year's ago. The veteran's should be putting over young talent for the future, not having the main Championship, much less a match between 2 guy's who have a combine age of over 100 year's old where one is barely mobile.
 
@itssoeasy The reason I've been watching TNA is because I'm an old dormant WCW fan who never transferred to WWF(E). I bet the last time I watched any kind of wrestling match is when a friend said Sting was in TNA. I watched a little but at that time I didn't recognize a whole lot of other. My interest faded. I quick watching...

Then my friend called again and said Hulk Hogan was in TNA. I caught a couple episodes of "bad" Sting, etc but it wasn't the same. Sting was never a bad guy, especially to his nWo rival Hogan. Sting faded, as did my attention. I watched when I remembered, flipping through channels and what not.

But then TNA grabbed my attention. My friend called a third time and said "Stings facing Hardy for the Chamionshion on Impact!". Very quickly I realized my childhood Idols were at war (the right way) again! Since that very Impact I have yet to miss an episode. The cool thing is now I know who guys like AJ Styles, Robert Roode, Daniels, Mr Anderson, Matt Morgan, etc are. These are my superstars of the future...but first things first, Hogan/Sting drew me in. I want to see the ending of a generation long storyline. I want to see Sting FINALLY put that Hollywood piece of shit in his place. I wanna see an emotionally broken man extend his hand to Sting in their final war. Wrestling for us old school WCW fans is back! And by the looks of their young roster, TNA is VERY capable of making an extensive impact (lol) in the wrestling community. But don't hate on our idols ;) Their doing what their meant to do, even if you don't see it.
 
It isn't about age it's about physical condition. Hogan cannot go anymore, and even with the surgeries he wants I cannot see it being a mediorce match.

Million Dollar Man: ''We can rebuild him, we have the technolo... Oh wait it's Hogan.''

Hogan claimed ratings would treble with his presence, yet they're beating about the 1.0-1.5 mark and have been since his arrival. It isn't a dream match anymore with their conditions. The match wouldn't draw much bigger than a 1.6 rating at best, iMPACT Wrestling needs big young stars, not big old stars, as evidential through ratings and poor booking.
 

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