I never claimed it was hard to defeat some jobbers (which most of the people in the list weren't, I'll get to that later though), however when it's a whole bunch of them I'm sure it's a tough thing to accomplish. Also, there were some pretty big names in there too like Hogan, Flair, Sting, DDP and many others that weren't such big names.
A few big names doesn't make the feat impressive. It's a Royal Rumble match with more jobbers, it was
supposed to be "brutal," when in fact it was a boring and long match. Savage's win just isn't that great in that match. You can argue that they weren't jobbers, but most of the guys I mentioned were jobbers at that point. I mean, how many times have we seen the main event caliber guy wreck through jobbers? Millions of times. That's what they're there to do, make Savage look good as he went over them. They barely got anything in on him, Savage just sold his "injury" and wasn't all that active for parts of the match.
I think you're misinterpreting things yet again. I never claimed Rocky didn't have any resiliency, which you seem to think I said. I did however say, that while both men are very resilient, I think (as in my opinion) that Savage was the more resilient of the two. So we can keep debating that, but at the end I think we'll have to agree to disagree on this particular point.
We'll probably have to, because I see Rock as the more resilient man, especially because of all the brutal beatings he took from Angle, Rikishi, Stone Cold, Undertaker, Kane, and Jericho. I mean, he ended up sprawled out so many times, but he never gave up.
Never said it wasn't.
I personally still don't see him hitting Elizabeth. Just because of the fact that she was never a wrestler or intervened in the ways that Stephanie did. And Chyna...she's just something else.
So, when Elizabeth rips off her clothing to distract the other wrestlers, that doesn't count? Or how she kept jumping into the Hogan-Savage match at WrestleMania V? Any of those things would be MORE than enough for Rock to hit her, but the point is fairly irrelevant.
I'll give you all of them except Hogan just because he was by that time way past his prime. But other than him, I still think the names that Savage faced were much bigger. They were all, if not most, better wrestlers and much more accomplished than the guys Rocky faced during his era.
Hogan, at that point, was still a huge star. He was getting cheers bigger than Rocky's. That contest was very competitive and don't forget, Hogan went on to win the WWF Undisputed Championship afterward. He was still a very dangerous competitor, one of many for The Rock.
Unfortunately we can't say how much success Randy could have had since he never faced the guys Rocky had to face, but the same could go for The Rock. Can we claim that he would be able to defeat guys like Ultimate Warrior, Hulk Hogan and Ric Flair during their respective primes? The world will never know.
True, it's all speculation from our side.
I'll admit it, I was exaggerating when I said they were crazier than Mankind himself, but they were still pretty damn crazy and were definitely not jobbers. Jobbers are meant to lose matches and make their opponents look good while doing so. So by that definition, neither man was a jobber because although they had their fair amount of losses, they still won plenty of matches. The best example of a jobber is the Brooklyn Brawler. That's a true jobber.
OK, a guy like Chavo Guerrero has won quite a few matches, but he's still a jobber. Those guys were never legitimate threats, they never advanced all that far out of the lower card. Although they weren't to the level of, say, a Brooklyn Brawler or a Leaping Lanny Poffo (THE OTHER BROTHER!), they were still jobbers.
You're right, it doesn't have to be an advantage but it can be. So I'm going with the latter since there isn't a huge weight difference between the two like there was with Hart and and Yoko. But like you said, if we go by your way of winning a cage match, the man that deals the more damage will probably be the winner at the end. So yet again, it's going to be something we'll just have to agree to disagree on since I personally think Savage would inflict more pain since he's more relentless and has more stamina so he can go on longer.
You're right. I sincerely believe Rock would dish out more punishment, the "I Quit" Match against Mankind is a big example of that... but we can't prove it.
Sorry to break the news to you but Savage wasn't stupid nor reckless. I think you misunderstood what I meant by consequences which would be something like getting stripped of a title. So I don't see how the consequences would hurt him and make him do a mistake, something we already went over. Also, how does him facing the consequences make him do more high risk maneuvers? He's not reckless nor stupid so I don't see what makes you think he would put himself at a position where he knows he could be in trouble.
If he's willing to do anything, even if it means losing the belt, then he'll certainly up the ante a little bit. He's definitely not known for being stupid or reckless but in a match like this, you have to pull out all the stops. If he doesn't take any risks, then he won't inflict enough punishment.
So Benoit got reckless and injured himself, two things Savage just doesn't do, and The Rock capitalized on Benoit's own stupidity. So since Savage and Benoit are two completely different type of wrestlers, tell me again how The Rock would capitalize on Savage's mistakes when he very rarely made any. He was known for perfecting his craft and paying a lot of attention to every little detail in a match, so mistakes happening were very unlikely.
Benoit went for a simple maneuver but he payed the consequences. I understand that Savage planned out his matches and wanted everything to be perfect, but The Rock is a damn good wrestler. When going against a guy like Rock, he wouldn't be able to execute his usual moves, he'd be pushed out of his comfort zone.