For the love of God, vote Brock Lesnar!

[Shocky]

It's back to normal matches now

 

[TheOneBigWill]

I say Austin because he's been steam rolling everyone, and he really hasn't had anyone support him yet. With it down to 8, he's goign to get some big support more then likely.

If a group of rag tag posters like myself, sam, Lariat and justin can get a two year Green Monster within 10 seconds of beating Edge, then I don't like Edge's chances of winning. I probably enjoy Edge more, but right away you need to realize your going into a match where you probably are going to have close to 30, if not 40 people that will vote for Austin as soon as the polls open.

However, i was going down with the Lesnar ship until the bitter end if he faced Austin. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's going to be very hard.

Shocky, before you toss your vote in - give me time to prove Edge can win. Same goes for the rest of the Staff.

I'm sure there's no question that I can prove in every bit of the way how Edge can win, convincingly, without question.

Shit, I'm getting more positive compliments about how I carried Edge through Lesnar - and I don't believe I did. Obviously I couldn't vote 58 times, so everyone who voted Edge - then - deserves a piece of the credit. I was just more or less the main mouth piece, because I know Edge's entire career better than anything.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

It's back to normal matches now

2 Questions.

1. Is this the beginning of the tournament in which one match is meant to take place after another. Or you're meant to understand the stamina they'll be wasting from match to match? Or is that just with the final four?

2. So, by normal you mean WITH rules and everything.. or by normal, do you mean under the original regular rules of that region? (ie. E.C.W region = hardcore rules apply)

 

[jmt225]

Taker had plenty of quality matches before that. Be it his matches against Foley, his Summerslam 98 match with Austin, his matches with HBK and Bret Hart in 97. Taker had a bunch of good matches before 2005, if anything he's regressed in recent years, not the other way around.

See, when you say a "bunch", there really wasn't a bunch you could ever name. Just a few.

And yeah.. those Foley matches were good, but you and I both know that was only because of Foley taking tremendous bumps.

Taker more then held his own against HBK and Hart, that's ridiculious to claim he didn't.

I disagree, man. If 'Taker was anywhere near the same level as those guys back then, then he would have had great matches regularly, instead of just against great workers like HBK and Hart. HBK and Hart could have good matches against guys like Sid, Diesel, ect... while 'Taker couldn't.

I thought his match with Austin at Summerslam 98 was great. Not a classic, but a great match.

I didn't like it at all. It was very dull, anti-climatic, and didn't live up to the hype at all. For months we waited for this match, and at the end... these two delivered what could've been a Raw main event. Watch it again today. I watched it not too long ago when I got the Superstars of the 90s DVD, and it really isn’t that good man.

The only match between Taker and the Rock that I can remember being somewhat entertaining was there KOTR 99 match, but that wasn't exactly a "great" match either.

I know, and they had a few matches against one another. But, 'Taker back then wasn't able to carry his own weight in the ring. Put The Rock of 2001 in the same ring as the Undertaker of TODAY, you'll end up with a fantastic match. But man... a great 'Taker match was VERY rare back in the day.

The respect is mutual, but I still think Taker > Sting all day and night. To be honest I didn't really enjoy anything Sting did after the NWO storyline. Maybe it was the trash that was Starrcade 97 that ruined him for me, because before that I actually was a bit of a mark for the guy.

Like MattMoses said, that one match against Goldberg and his matches against DDP were some of the best matches in 1999. Sure, he participated in some shit fest like vs. Vampario, but for the most part.. the man could still deliver overall.

But c'mon man...his TNA stuff has been just awful. It actually pains me to watch some of it.

His pay-per-view matches really aren't that bad, man. Vs. Joe, Jarrett, Angle, Abyss, Rhino, Christopher Daniels... all solid stuff. Hell, I even remember a couple of his TV matches being pretty good against guys like Jay Lethal and Scott Steiner. Are any of these matches as good as 'Taker vs. HBK from Wrestlemania 25? No, but for a 50-year-old man... Sting's pretty impressive.

 

[Shocky]

It's not going to take much to convince me to vote Edge over Austin, it's the people that are still going nuts over Austin in the Hall of Fame and McMahon saying he was the greatest ever that you have to worry about.

 

[Shocky]

This is now King of the ring style. I'll be making a thread tomorrow on everything with the final 8. (I usually put tribute videos up for the final 8, so people, PM me the best one for each wrestler you can find).

Normal as in WWE-esque normal.

All of the matches in one night, stamina becomming an issue.

 

[SavageTaker]

Will I will support and help you try to get Edge the Win. I like Austin but I just like Edge more than him.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

FUCK YES!!! KOTR style for the win!

(trust me, I was hoping to get Edge this far - even with Austin in the mix, as I have been thinking about this already)

As for the tribute video, you can count on me to find a great Edge tribute video.

 

[Shocky]

Well you have a 2 time King of the Ring winner in Bret Hart
A KOTR finalist in the Rock
I'm not too sure with Jericho
RVD, a KOTR finalist
Steve Austin: KOTR Winner
Edge: King of the Ring Winner
The Undertaker: meh
Chris Benoit: Royal Rumble winner from #1, Super J Cup Tourny winner.

Most of these guys are very well conditioned to make the run.

 

[X]

Don't forget Austin also won the Royal Rumble twice.

 

[SavageTaker]

Actually 3 times xfear.

 

[X]

Oh yeah, I always forget about the '97 Rumble. That doesn't really even count though.

 

[Fizzy]

Shit... Looks like I should start posting instead of just voting...

 

[SavageTaker]

It does count, it's not his fault the referee wasn't paying attention.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Yeah, Austin's my favorite wrestler, ever. I'll look at what people have to say about Edge, but I seriously doubt that I'll be persuaded. Since this is based on wrestlers in their primes, Edge will be going up against a '98-'99 Austin...yeah, I just don't see how. Good luck, though, Will.

 

[SavageTaker]

But remember Austin in his prime was never at 100%. Which is obviously an advantage for Edge. If he does get passed Edge then I don't think he is going to make it past The Undertaker if indeed 'Taker beat Benoit.

 

[Murfish]

I' just gonna back Benoit becuase I despise the Undertaker.

 

[SavageTaker]

 

[Mr. TM]

I just love that face

 

[Fizzy]

I don't see how Edge will beat Austin, but I never doubt Will. Taker should also beat Benoit, but hell you just never know.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Just so you know, you all failed me. I was thinking about learning some of your usernames. Now you're back to being boring, anonymous walls of text. I hope you're happy.

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

But remember Austin in his prime was never at 100%. Which is obviously an advantage for Edge. If he does get passed Edge then I don't think he is going to make it past The Undertaker if indeed 'Taker beat Benoit.

This is kayfabe...Austin having a broken neck means nothing here. If it did, both him and Kurt Angle should have lost in Round One. This man decimated each and every person he faced during his prime (hell, I think he lost less than ten times...I'll have to check on this, though).

 

[SavageTaker]

I don't mind not being able to use the Austin has a broken neck argument. I already have an argument that has nothing to do with Austin's neck.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

This is kayfabe...Austin having a broken neck means nothing here. If it did, both him and Kurt Angle should have lost in Round One. This man decimated each and every person he faced during his prime (hell, I think he lost less than ten times...I'll have to check on this, though).

Oye.. you do realize he's lost a bunch of times.. and if it's Kayfabe, then clearly a guy (Edge) who just beat a guy who's lost in all likeliness less than 10 true times (Lesnar) surely he can beat a guy (Austin) who isn't nearly as good as people claimed Lesnar was..

Mind you, I think Lesnar is about the most useless waste of space since Goldberg.. Austin will be tougher, but nothing more dangerous. Several mid-card, main event, and overall top ranked heels have bested the self-proclaimed "toughest S.O.B".

 

[Cena's Little Helper]

Oye.. you do realize he's lost a bunch of times.. and if it's Kayfabe, then clearly a guy (Edge) who just beat a guy who's lost in all likeliness less than 10 true times (Lesnar) surely he can beat a guy (Austin) who isn't nearly as good as people claimed Lesnar was..

Mind you, I think Lesnar is about the most useless waste of space since Goldberg.. Austin will be tougher, but nothing more dangerous. Several mid-card, main event, and overall top ranked heels have bested the self-proclaimed "toughest S.O.B".

One, yes, Austin has lost plenty of times in his career. But, how many times did he lose in the late 90s? Two, yes, this is kayfabe, but whom each wrestler beats in this Tournament has no bearing whatsoever on whom they'll be able to beat later on. Hell, if this Tournament added to kayfabe, I could probably go into the Archives and devise a hell of a battle plan for all the wrestlers I am supporting.