First Round: Vancouver - Fabulous Moolah vs. Hulk Hogan

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Who Wins This Matchup?

  1. Fabulous Moolah

  2. Hulk Hogan

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  1. Mantaur Rodeo Clown

    Mantaur Rodeo Clown X-Pac Rules

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    I don't care who you are. In what universe does Hogan ever, ever strike a woman? And this isn't just any woman. This is the absolute greatest female professional wrestler of all time. You wanna talk about impact? Sure, Hogan sold out MSG, but Moolah was the first woman to ever be allowed to wrestling in the goddamn building. you wanna talk abo0ut title reigns? How about 30 years of absolute dominance? And you wanan talk about heart, endurance and stamina? When Hulk Hogan wins a World recognized title at the age of 76, you can come and change my vote.

    Moolah wins, Moolah wins.
     
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  2. Slyfox696

    Slyfox696 Excellence of Execution

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    What the fuck is going on in this thread? Stupidity is running amok.

    How about right here?

    [youtube]VxZVsVN8MiI[/youtube]

    Seriously, are people voting for Moolah on the premise that Hogan wouldn't strike a woman? How seriously fucking stupid is that? This is a wrestling match. Even if Hogan wouldn't strike a woman, which he obviously would, he could still WRESTLE her. There's no chance in hell Moolah would ever hurt Hulk Hogan, much less be able to pin him.

    You people are just being absurd. Hulk Hogan is the greatest professional wrestler ever, as stated by Bret Hart, Ric Flair, and just about every other wrestler in history. The fact Moolah is even close in this tells me people aren't taking this seriously, and are just trying to screw up the tournament.

    If you don't want a legit tournament, why are you even here? This is Hogan, and it's not even close.



    DON'T BE FUCKING STUPID! READ THIS POST!
     
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  3. Tastycles

    Tastycles Turn Bayley heel

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    What is remotely funny about Hogan losing to Fabulous Moolah in an artificial tournament. HAHAHAHA WE DON'T HAVE AN OPTION TO VOTE FOR HULK HOGAN IN ROUND TWO, IT SAYS A WOMAN'S NAME INSTEAD HAHAHAHAHAHA. My sides have literally split. Seriously, look inside yourselves. Is the outcome of a fake tournament about a fake sport funny? No. If anyone says "yeah but people will get mad and that makes it funny". First of all, not really. Second of all, I doubt that many people will care.

    That being said, at least those people are not under any delusion of correctness. If you voted for Moolah because it's funny, you have an awful sense of humour. If you voted for him because you think he wouldn't hit a woman, you're unbelievably, well I don't want to flame, but just know that you're wrong.

    The finish to Summerslam 1989 saw him atomic drop Sherri, I must have seen him give her a good few noggin knockers over the years too. The fact that he was once the most over heel in all of wrestling leads me to believe that people have written "he wouldn't hit a woman" without thinking it through.

    Hogan wins this because he would win this in real life, he's a better wrestler, and for just about any other criterion you can think of. Seriously, vote Hogan.
     
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  4. thepalaceprince

    thepalaceprince enjoying the view from my throne

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    Hogan may have been about ethics and morals and values but he was also all about himself and never put anyone over. If he wouldnt let savage go over clean why would he put a woman over? Hogan wins this one after moolah beats him with a chair for ten minutes then hogan hulks up and finishes her and then gets a case of pastamania afterward
     
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  5. Mantaur Rodeo Clown

    Mantaur Rodeo Clown X-Pac Rules

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    What is even remotely fun about completely taking any measure of enjoyment out of an artificial tournament? We all know that Hogan is going through, because he is one of the greatest pro wrestlers ever, if not the greatest. So what is the matter with just poking fun at such a ridiculous match up? This isn't fucking Sophie's choice, it's just a spot of fun that people are trying to enjoy, before you decide that we have to be dead serious about this because Terry Bollea might get offended by losing in a fake tournament on a wrestling forum.

    If w'ere just going to vote over Hogan in every round and completely stone wall every bit of enjoyment, then why the fuck are people bothering to campaign? Just try to enjoy it guys.
     
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  6. Tenta

    Tenta The Shark Should've Worked in WCW

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    You know, I was going to post Sly's video.... That should really end the debate. Someone may say that Hulk will feel bad for Moolah, but if Moolah hits first, there's no stopping Hogan. Everyone who just wants Hogan out of this tournament should really reconsider there fanhood, and I'm not even lying. Because, yet again, there's a case of going off the seat of your ass. And that's the one thing I really hate about this tournament. Don't be dumb; vote Hogan.
     
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  7. TheOneBigWill

    TheOneBigWill [This Space for Rent]

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    No it wouldn't. Unless me posting a video of Edge defeating Chris Benoit, or Kurt Angle would've been considered "end of debate" and promoted him over Bret Hart.

    I mean, its the same concept, isn't it? You claim because Hogan drive his knee into Sherri's ass - that it means Moolah can't take it? So you're saying Moolah, who went UNDEFEATED for decades as a Champion, can't take an Atomic Drop from a man? Thats sexist, and for the most part I'm not even joking.

    You need to rethink yourself as not just a male, but a human being.

    So its acceptable to hit a female as long as she hits first? Some consider that. For the most part, the catagory of those individuals are Wife beaters and low lifes. So, on that note should I seriously begin taking Hogan for no different, or better, than they are?

    *Checks fanhood* Yep, I'm still a fan. That doesn't mean I have to give a shit about someone I've never been a fan of, though, now does it.

    You know what I dislike about this tournament? Posts like this. People thinking that because their opinions don't fall into the minds of everyone else participating in these things, that its bullshit and wrong.

    People who get so upset about something, that they look to blame everyone who didn't share their views and opinions.

    People who try to go above and beyond, just to make it look like anyone who doesn't share a similar view point - is so completely stupid they shouldn't even know how to logicially use a computer.

    Now I get you didn't say a bunch of that, but if you even remotely try arguing you weren't thinking some of it - don't bother. You even mentioned trying to convince people to "check their fanhood"? Why? What purpose does that make? Because everyone who's a fan of this sport, should automatically LOVE Hulk Hogan? Uhm, no.

    Tenta, you've been a personal favorite of mine since I met you a year ago. That doesn't mean I share your opinion for your post, or this match-up.

    People are allowed to vote how they want, for who they want. Sly said himself, in his opinion Moolah is considered worthy of being in this tournament but unfortunately because she drew Hogan she simply shouldn't be worthy of going over him.

    Well, a lot of people felt Edge shouldn't of did a lot of stuff. Same with Japanese Wrestlers, Vader, Randy Savage, Steve Austin, Brock Lesnar, and a lot of others. Amazing things happen in these tournaments. Just because you disagree with them, doesn't mean you're right and someone else is wrong. Get over youself.

    If Moolah wasn't worthy of getting praise, even against the all-powerful Hogan, then maybe she shouldn't of been considered in this thing to begin with. I respect Moolah's accomplishments, and dislike Hogan - all as a fan to this sport. Thats how and why I voted. I merely added in the humor, stupidity and joking because to a lot of people thats all this is.
     
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  8. Hulkamaniac

    Hulkamaniac Vote Hogan, Savage, Rocky and Thesz

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    Except that's a terrible analogy. Your whole argument was that Hogan wouldn't do anything to a woman, and that has been completely disproved, despite your desire to cling to your defeated argument.

    Actually, no, that's not what is being said. Keep throwing up straw men, though.

    :rolleyes:

    Are you asking if it's acceptable to defend yourself if a woman attacks you? Umm, yes it is. And further, in the world of professional wrestling, it's beyond acceptable, woman get taken out by men all the time.

    Fine and dandy, but your argument has still be disproven. So just say your voting against Hogan because you hate him, and stop pretending as if your argument still holds water.
     
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  9. JGlass

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    There is no feasible outcome to this match where there is a clear and definite victor, because I have determined exactly how this match will happen. KB, I'm sorry, but you are going to have to be involved.

    The Fabulous Moolah comes out first and hits the ring, looking nervous as she's never faced an adversary quite as fierce as Hulk Hogan.

    Hogan's music hits, but he doesn't come out right away. It continues playing, and just when it seems like he's no-showing the match, out he comes, dragging KB by the collar.

    Hogans drags KB into the ring and keeps a hold of him as he picks up a mic.

    He goes into a speech laden with Hulkamanias and Brothers about how KB booked a match between a man and a woman and how that makes him a sick bastard. He asks KB if he has any last words.

    KB says, "I swear it was a random draw! I didn't mean for it to be like this!"

    Hogan and Moolah call bullshit, and the ass whoopin begins.

    Moolah slaps KB, who turns around only to meet a Hogan fist.

    Now a lesser man would just lay down, but KB is a fighter, so he stands his ground, only to get with an atomic drop by Hogan. He hops around in pain to be met with a missile drop kick by Moolah. Ouch.

    No KB is laid out in the middle of the ring, and we all know what that means. Leg drop by Hogan, lights out KB.

    Hogan and Moolah hold each others hands up, and Hogan, being the gentleman he is, holds the ropes open for Moolah and escorts her up the ramp and to the back.

    Decision: No contest, the match never happened.

    I voted Hogan because I thought it was better for the tournament for Hogan to go through, but I will agree with Will that there is no imaginable way for Hogan to win in a real match, but I don't see any real way for Moolah to win either, unless Hogan walks out on the match, which is not in his character.
     
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  10. Tenta

    Tenta The Shark Should've Worked in WCW

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    Well, Will, you're entire grounds for this argument iis based upon this assumption, which has been proved incorrect, mind you, that Hulk Hogan, in his prime, is too good a person to hit a woman. So, it's not even the matter of the atomic drop, but the fact that he actually did it to Sherri. That's what's up for debate here, and clearly, you lost.

    You've done it; you really did it. No one has ever, ever managed to offend me on these forums. Ever. I've been semi-flamed by X, and it didn't bother me. I've been told that my ideas on women's rights on this forum are shit. As a matter of fact, Will, in case you don't know so fondly (Oh yeah, that's right, you never spend much time here anyway) I'm actually the guy that argues for women's rights in the WWE. I'm usually the guy that argues against the masses when I feel dishusted by how Vickie Guerrero is treated in the WWE is wrong, or that the Piggy James gimmick was poor in taste. Yeah, that's me, I'm the guy that takes offense to these matters, and feel that women should be seen as equal to man. And you are calling me sexist?

    Kindly. Fuck. Off. Seriously Will. This is nothing more than an attempt to discredit me as a person. I'll take getting flamed at, but so God help me, you will not judge me as a person, do you understand me?

    Now then, with that out of the way, again, yes, Moolah can probably take a soft pat in the ass from Hogan. I never once said, she couldn't. However, multiple atomic drops will eventually cause her to lose, yes. Again, the point isn't that Hogan's atomic drop isn't enough to take down Moolah; the point is that Hogan, if pushed to a reasoning, will in fact wrestle a woman. Sure, he'll have a moral issue in doing so, and it will take him a while to attack Moolah, but he will.

    Look, I'm not even bother to deal with this. At this point, you know how I feel. I feel you'll do anything to make an argument, even slander the name of a person on this forum that, up until know, considered you a friend. It's one thing to make an argument Will; it's a complete other to argue me, who mind you has championed the rights of women on these forums since day fucking one, am sexist. That hurts, Will, it absolutely does.

    Well, see, here's the problem, Will; Did Moolah seriously enter this tournament, expecting this rationale? Sure, she's a woman, but she shouldn't be looked upon any differently for being a woman. Here, you clearly show a side of wanting to have your cake and eat it, too. You want for Hogan to not hit Moolah, because she's a woman, yet you're also trying to argue that women are equal to men, possibly, in the ring. Now, the second opinion, I actually somewhat agree with, in that a woman can be as good a worker as a man, in the ring. But you can't play both sides of the fence, Will. Which is clearly what you're doing now.


    And you know what I utterly hate, Will?

    Posters who are so damn biased on an opinion, they can't take an objective view of this match, and have to resort to a bullshit logic, which has been disproven, and will go out of their way to make an argument, with poor reasoning.

    Will, you've been anti-Hogan on this forum before it was even popular. You are probably the biggest Hogan basher I've ever seen in my life. And you know what, that's perfectly fine. Alot of the reason you hate Hogan is actually pretty valid. However, what you're doing right now is simply the fool's argument; you're trying to discredit all of Hogan's accomplishments, for the simple fact that you hate him, and want him out of this tournament.

    Will, as much as you'd like to, you can't discredit that Hulk Hogan has led Professional wrestling to the way in which it is today. You can't discredit that without Hogan, professional wrestling would not be the media entity we know it now as. Without Hulk Hogan, this forum may not even exist, honestly. Sure, he played politics, but he also is perhaps the most legendary name in wrestling. Moolah is great, but when one thinks about Women's wrestling, so many more women come to mind. Hell, I'm of the belief that Wendi Richter did more for women's wrestling than Moolah did. It'd be interesting to see what happened if she didn't get screwed by Vince. Moolah was great, but she is no Hogan. And this time, you've let your hatred for Hogan take your arguments, which are typically great, into the nonsensical realm.



    I never said that was a bad thing to do, Will.

    But you also know what've done in the process? You've slandered me as a sexist, completely ruined any sense of a friendship I may have had with you, all for the purpose of an argument. Will, you may be a great poster, but that was merely a cheap shot, frankly. I get it; you don't like Hogan, and like Moolah. Really, that's what it all boils down to. But don't go throwing words like "sexist" around, in an attempt to make your point.
     
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  11. TheOneBigWill

    TheOneBigWill [This Space for Rent]

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    Tenta, I was going to break this down and do what I typically do.. but to be honest there are only two things that need to be said. One is personal, and one is Tournament related.

    Firstly, Personal: Did you seriously just throw a tantrum? Are you honestly getting pissed at me, and taking away the friend card all because I said something that makes you believe I called you sexist? Oh dear.

    Well, I'm not going to flame you like you felt the need to do to me. I'm going to tell you quite bluntly. Get. Over. It. I said something, that was through my eyes how you were typing it. If it was wrong, all you had to do was say so. No need to go off about it and throw a fit. I know you're better than that, so you didn't need to drop to the level of those who cry over things that aren't worth it.

    Do I see you, in real life, as a sexist? Quite frankly no. Not because I know you are or aren't, but because I purely don't see you in real life at all. So if you wish to take back your friend card and leave me hanging. Well, thats unfortunate. Its not sad, and it won't make me lose sleep. Its unfortunate because I liked talking with you, but I never knew you - and you don't know me. Its as simple as that.

    I'll still view you as a good poster. And for the person I talked to, privately, as a good guy. You can view me as a prick, or a jackass, or a dick head, or whatever floats your boat. I was defending my vote - and stating my view on how I read what you wrote. Again, if it offended you so much I'm big enough to say sorry.. but if you expect more than that, then you're expecting too much.

    And now, Tournament Related: You and the aply-named Hulkamania guy keep going on about how my argument has been disputed and proven wrong. Why? Because Hogan atomic dropped Sherri? No. At least, not entirely.

    My whole argument wasn't based on Hogan not hitting Moolah. It was also based on the fact that Moolah isn't just some Manager in a ****ty outfit looking to slap Hogan across the face then be taken out by a cupcake wrestling move.

    Do I beileve toe-to-toe Moolah can defeat Hulk Hogan? :lmao: No, I'm not stupid. But I do believe Hogan is so ego-driven that he can very well be defeated by Moolah due to looking well beyond her. I mean, we are talking about the same guy who's lost to guys like Billy Kidman. (Kidman owns a pinfall victory over Hogan, is my point there.)

    And while I'm sure people are laughing and saying :wtf: at that entire paragraph, which even I admit is laughable through a point of view. The fact is - if people feel thats impossible, then Moolah shouldn't of been IN this tournament. Period. And once again, even Sly himself stated Moolah deserved in, so quit trying to act as if she couldn't at least remotely give winning a shot.

    Would a lot of things have to work her way? Absolutely. Are the odds incredibly staked against her? Sure. But when you consider everything, its not exactly out of the realm of possibility.

    So, with that said I hope you can get over your fit. And stop hating yourself for not being able to view my point of this. I'm not upset at anyone who voted FOR Hogan. Its your choice. And beyond cheek-and-tongue humor, I've never once said voting for Hogan was wrong in a serious manner. I was only adding entertainment to an otherwise stupid match-up.
     
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