Election Night LD

[Dan Severn's Moustache]

Silver lining... silver lining... silver lining...

This doubling down on an anti minority position is going to cost Republicans somewhere down the line. Also: I got my money out of US dollars before the shit and fan started closing in on one another... so that's good.

I'm glad you and I can see some benefits from this.

Plus, you know, weed's legal in a bunch of states now.

 

[Navi]

None of this was about the amendments, which I asked Ech.

I know I don't know anything about the amendments. I live in Canada and we don't have stuff like that here. I was just throwing my two cents in as usual. Hey I'm a woman, we do things like that.

 

[OYDK]

Trump is seen by them as someone who will do something for them, bring back jobs, change trade agreements. Hillary had none of that and they just saw it as 4 more years of the last 8, and they were tired of it.

What scares me is not necessarily the policies that Trump has outlined throughout his campaign (though they too are somewhat dangerous), but the way in which he continuously changes his mind or contradicts himself on extremely important issues such as health care, foreign relations, and nuclear weapons. A President needs to have a plan, or at least, a vague idea of what he/she wants to accomplish in office, Trump seems like he's winging it.

I really can't empathize with the people who think he'll do good things for America. I don't know how they came to that conclusion after listening to Donald for the past year and a half. That's me though.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

I know I don't know anything about the amendments. I live in Canada and we don't have stuff like that here. I was just throwing my two cents in as usual. Hey I'm a woman, we do things like that.

I am curious to how Canadians feel about all the immigration talk.

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

I understand perfectly what Ty has mentioned about it being about closer to home politics than global agendas, but why do people believe Trump will deliver? He's a liar, a bigot, a demagogue and an utterly repellent human being.

He won't be able to pass the vast majority of what he promised because the Republicans will have him on a leash not to mention the fact he's an unprincipled ******** who has repeatedly spouted anything that would gain him a foothold, all for the sake of the pursuit of power.

His promises are empty. The world can see it, but 'ordinary' Americans can't? Are they just that desperate they'll cling to populist rhetoric?

In many ways this is the same as Brexit: 'lets take back control ' and 'stick it to the establishment', except who really won here? A billionaire who has never had to struggle in life and wants to play President because of his power obsession. When Donald leaves the presidency in however many years, he won't have to struggle, but the same people will because he'll have done nothing for them.

 

[Khalifa]

Somebody is making a pact with the Devil.

I think just looking at how the electoral map has gone, the stories the media covered and raised up as major issues with Trump fell on completely deaf ears. Why you ask? Because he spoke to the working/middle class and made all the right promises to help those people in their lives. People are far more worried about their paycheck and their mortgage then they are about racism and sexism. It's disgusting but it's true. If I have to choose between having an easier time paying for my house or not having a racist leader, a lot of people are gonna swallow their pride if it means making things easier on their family.

Add in Clinton was an extremely weak candidate at this juncture in time, it was the perfect storm for something like this to happen. It looks like everything has flipped, at one point the Republicans were looked at like the rich upper class overlords, thus how the Democrats took power. Now people are looking at Democrats that way, while the Trump campaign hit the ground running and aimed at the issues that the working person cares about the most. Meanwhile you have Hilary spouting on about taking care of the climate. In a state like mine where there is a ton of coal plants and is a primary money maker here, it's equivalent to her saying she's going to kill your jobs. That's just one example but that type of attitude spreads throughout.

A lot of the problems in Washington DC started with the Republicans, but the anger over those problems crested when the Democrats were in power, and it's extended to this election. Hillary basically walked in and became the embodiment for a lot of people for the perceived corruption and the feeling of the working class being cast aside.

This election was far more about economic issues to people than it was to social issues. They want food, shelter, and stability. Trump sat down and looked them in the face and told them he can do that. Hillary only promised a continuation of where we are presently. And I think that has a huge part in what's gone down tonight.

Yeah alright, I see. I would rep you for this but obviously I did like a couple hours ago and haven't repped enough people.

But yeah I see exactly what you're saying and it's hard to argue that, even as much as you want to.

 

[Navi]

I am curious to how Canadians feel about all the immigration talk.

Well from what I understand it isn't easy to move here. You have to have a job and it has to be one that a Canadian can't do or perform. You also have to have a sponsor. That means health insurance paid for by you, and a place to live.

But hey good luck to those that try. You'd have better luck coming in as a refugee.

 

[enviousdominous]

Donald Trump's biggest advantage has been how there is truly no equal to his presence.

When you have a pariah as abrasive as Donald Trump, you have idiots clamoring for a chance to be the one who took him down. The Republicans split their support 15 ways in the primaries, while Donald reaped the support of people who wanted something different.

Write in votes for Bernie Sanders and third party votes have taken millions of votes away from Hillary.

Well played Mr. Trump, or should I say, Commander in Chief.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

I'm just here patiently waiting for Alaska to be the state that decides it all. Or at least, for Last Week Tonight With John Oliver's opening segment.

 

[Hard Hit Prince]

Oh my god, PA is now favoring Trump.

 

[Navi]

What scares me is not necessarily the policies that Trump has outlined throughout his campaign (though they too are somewhat dangerous), but the way in which he continuously changes his mind or contradicts himself on extremely important issues such as health care, foreign relations, and nuclear weapons. A President needs to have a plan, or at least, a vague idea of what he/she wants to accomplish in office, Trump seems like he's winging it.

I really can't empathize with the people who think he'll do good things for America. I don't know how they came to that conclusion after listening to Donald for the past year and a half. That's me though.

Because for all his rubbish talk he was seen as the lesser of two evils. The Senate and Congress will govern him, he just can't get into the White House and do whatever he wants.

Trump is seen by the working class as one of them. Even though he's a billionaire, he creates jobs, knows business and can get things done. Hillary on the other hand might have spent 8 years in the White House but her husband was President at the time. She for all her talk has no experience either.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Because for all his rubbish talk he was seen as the lesser of two evils. The Senate and Congress will govern him, he just can't get into the White House and do whatever he wants.

Trump is seen by the working class as one of them. Even though he's a billionaire, he creates jobs, knows business and can get things done. Hillary on the other hand might have spent 8 years in the White House but her husband was President at the time. She for all her talk has no experience either.

You didn't really just fucking say that, did you?

 

[Ty Burna]

I understand perfectly what Ty has mentioned about it being about closer to home politics than global agendas, but why do people believe Trump will deliver? He's a liar, a bigot, a demagogue and an utterly repellent human being.

He won't be able to pass the vast majority of what he promised because the Republicans will have him on a leash not to mention the fact he's an unprincipled ******** who has repeatedly spouted anything that would gain him a foothold, all for the sake of the pursuit of power.

His promises are empty. The world can see it, but 'ordinary' Americans can't? Are they just that desperate they'll cling to populist rhetoric?

In many ways this is the same as Brexit: 'lets take back control ' and 'stick it to the establishment', except who really won here? A billionaire who has never had to struggle in life and wants to play President because of his power obsession. When Donald leaves the presidency in however many years, he won't have to struggle, but the same people will because he'll have done nothing for them.

One thing to consider as well that there was a ton of momentum to not vote Hillary. There was a lot for Trump too but it's clear that the momentum to vote against Hillary was far more and could have been a big factor.

Unfortunately those people did not consider voting 3rd party because it's a losing vote in their eyes. Everyone wants to be on the winning side so thus Trump gets the vote even if they don't like him. I don't believe this is validation like many presidential elections are. I'm guessing a lot voted with extreme trepidation for Trump. Now he needs to go and fulfill those promises or he's out in 4 years.... Assuming the Democrats can now regroup and get their shit straight.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

I am curious to how Canadians feel about all the immigration talk.

I feel it's just talk. There might be a small wave of people going to Canada and it'll probably make headlines. But it's fairly expensive to just pack all your shit and move to Canada, is it not? I can't see it being a hot topic for long.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

I don't think anybody is afraid of Trump being president.

I think we're fucking terrified of what the armed, hate-spewing supporters of his will do.

 

[Navi]

You didn't really just fucking say that, did you?

What experience does she have being President? What does she bring to the job that he doesn't. She is a Washington insider, he's not, and that's why he's winning.

She might have been Secretary of State, but she was told what to do by Obama, and while she was SOS Benghazi happened and the email fiasco occurred. So that was a failure as well.

 

[Ty Burna]

I don't think anybody is afraid of Trump being president.

I think we're fucking terrified of what the armed, hate-spewing supporters of his will do.

Eh... I'm afraid of both.

 

[OYDK]

Because for all his rubbish talk he was seen as the lesser of two evils. The Senate and Congress will govern him, he just can't get into the White House and do whatever he wants.

Trump is seen by the working class as one of them. Even though he's a billionaire, he creates jobs, knows business and can get things done. Hillary on the other hand might have spent 8 years in the White House but her husband was President at the time. She for all her talk has no experience either.

She has a 30+ year political career, she has set policy plans, and she knows what it takes to be a President. She was a Senator. I'm not arguing over who's the better person because I really don't care that much, but I fail to see how Trump is the lesser of two evils. The fact that the Senate will resist Trump in most, if not all, of the policies he has suggested is not a good reason to put him in. In fact, it's the opposite.

Again, I can't empathize. Anybody from the working class who thinks Trump is one of them or has their best interests at heart either has never heard him speak or is seriously, seriously misinformed.

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

I don't think anybody is afraid of Trump being president.

I think we're fucking terrified of what the armed, hate-spewing supporters of his will do.

I'd be afraid of Trump starting World War 3 just because it'll be a big money maker.

 

[Hyorinmaru]

I don't think anybody is afraid of Trump being president.

I think we're fucking terrified of what the armed, hate-spewing supporters of his will do.

My wife saw an article on Facebook where the American Nazi party came out in support of Trump.

 

[klunderbunker]

Clinton takes Nevada. 6 votes.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

My wife saw an article on Facebook where the American Nazi party came out in support of Trump.

That's the kind of shit that should keep his voters up at night.

 

[OYDK]

My wife saw an article on Facebook where the American Nazi party came out in support of Trump.

As has the KKK I believe.

 

[Dirk]

Ridiculous, in both senses of the word...

 

[Jeff Deliverer of Mail]

Trump might be the Anti-Christ, it's kind of looking like it.