DX is a complete joke-- Is anyone else as sick of them as I am?

[HHHDiedForOurSins]

Shawn Michaels & Triple H (more when he is a heel) are two of my favorite wrestlers of all time, so I'm enjoying what is sure to be their last run together as a team. They're putting on good matches every month and not dominating like they did when they came back in 06 so I don't see what the problem is.

I don't get the "40 year olds acting like kids" argument either, I think some people are harping back to their 06 run with the constant cock jokes and such which were lame, but it's pretty clear that now they are making fun of themselves with the jokes about their age, talking about reading their kids bedtime stories, Shawn working as a chef, HHH making fun of Shawn's receding hairline, Shawn retaliates by mocking the size of HHH's nose etc, this time the joke is on them, they're showing some humility and clearly just having fun out there because it's what the fans want to see, they love these guys, is that so bad? I'm sure it won't last long anyway, I'll be surprised if this run lasted beyond the Rumble.

Again, I know I might be in the minority, but I'm enjoying this DX run, I would have hated to see that awful run in 06 be their swansong, this is a much better way for them to go out as far as their tag team days. I could do without the Hornswoggle stuff, but everything else I think has been good, they did a great job of making Legacy seem like a threat for the first time ever and had a really good series of matches with them, the match they had with Cena at Survivor Series was great, the feud with JeriShow has been entertaining so far and they'll probably have another great match at the PPV, I can't really ask for much more from them to be honest.

 

[wwefan2009]

I'm not sick of DX at all. The promos they do for their merchandise crack me up. I enjoy watching Triple H & Shawn Micheals because if it wasn't for guys like them the younger guys you mention wouldn't have a job right now. Guys like DX deserve respect for paving the way for the so called new talent. Frankly Hart Dynasty and Legacy annoy me because they can't get a ligitimate win to save their life! Every week they cheat when it looks as if the other team is winning. This week was a good example when Jimmy Wang Yang and Slam master J went up againest Hart Dynasty. Jimmy and SMJ really took it to the Hart Dynasty but once again HD cheated to get the win. And look at what Sheamus did to Jamie Noble. Jamie had promise. He always had. He was a fighter and Sheamus destroyed that in a matter of minutes. Was totally uncalled for as far as I'm concerned. That didn't entertain me one bit. And if anybody is on steroids I wouldn't be surprised if glow in the dark guy Sheamus was guilty.

 

[TC_182_41]

I am so sick of DX it's not even funny. I mean like shouldn't they have split up and have HHH turn heel by now. It's one of the main reasons why I can hardly watch Raw anymore.

 

[reddevil69]

I'm not sick of DX at all. The promos they do for their merchandise crack me up. I enjoy watching Triple H & Shawn Micheals because if it wasn't for guys like them the younger guys you mention wouldn't have a job right now. Guys like DX deserve respect for paving the way for the so called new talent. Frankly Hart Dynasty and Legacy annoy me because they can't get a ligitimate win to save their life! Every week they cheat when it looks as if the other team is winning. This week was a good example when Jimmy Wang Yang and Slam master J went up againest Hart Dynasty. Jimmy and SMJ really took it to the Hart Dynasty but once again HD cheated to get the win. And look at what Sheamus did to Jamie Noble. Jamie had promise. He always had. He was a fighter and Sheamus destroyed that in a matter of minutes. Was totally uncalled for as far as I'm concerned. That didn't entertain me one bit. And if anybody is on steroids I wouldn't be surprised if glow in the dark guy Sheamus was guilty.

and if it wasn't for Hogan and Savage and Flair guys like Shawn and Hunter wouldn't have a job, blah blah,blah...all the performers owe their career to the guys that came before them, but if it wasn't for the "boom" era in the 80's with Hogan, wrestling would never have reached the point it's at today and more than likely a gimmick like DX would never have been conceptualized in the first place.

as for the Hart Dynasty, yeah they cheat...they're heels...it's called getting heat...you hate them for it and that is why they are booked that way...it obviously works on you.

Sheamus is doing what he's told, and since Vince is counting on him to draw a buy rate with Cena this Sunday, of course he's going to squash a mid-card jobber like Noble. If he can't make quick work of a guy like that, than what business does he have going against the WWE champion?

and as far as the steroids regarding Sheamus are concerned, he is HHH's work out partner, that's why he's getting his push, and if anyone in the business knows anything about better living through chemicals, it's Triple H himself. I refuse to believe he got that monstrous physique he was sporting in 2001 and bounced back from a quad tear in 8 months when it normally takes an athlete a year to recover from that, by eating egg whites and tuna.

 

[|RealityCheck]

When they first started bringing DX back again, I was like....REALLY? I mean, how many times can they expect us to be excited about the return of DX? If they did it again, and it was like Triple H, X-Pac, Gunn n Dogg, that could bring a lot of excitement...but at this point, bringing Triple H and Michaels together and calling them DX does nothing for me personally

 

[CuddleBuns84]

Can't believe it! That are the same people? What the hell!? How could they!? Oh wait, they were heels ten years ago, and built on pissing people off such as the fans. Then DX gained 3 more members became a crummy stable thanks to guys like X-pac, and Chyna. They are funny, they work well, and they are making the Tag-team titles a legit deal. Them and JericoShow are going to have a good match this Sunday, in which I'm hoping either we have the titles split or the battle goes on into the Royal Rumble. But that's how DX works, they are good for 6 or 8 months then they go their different ways. They are helping out younger talent, and getting newer younger talent shots. So, deal with the young antics, and goofy segments, that's what they do. I myself thought some of it was pretty funny. And on top of that, I would be more upset with the use of the hart dynasty and cryme tyme instead of the DX segments.

 

[TheLegendKiller777]

and im assuming that u are the fans that love hogan more then ur mothers.. like u say dx is old and not funny and blah blah blah look at hogan he has been doin the same thing for decades and its ridiculous dx is cllassic they got nothing to prove anymore they r just there, u guys expect all this stufffrom the younger guys well guess what u cant sit here and say who you want to become a star because u cant tell frm here.. sure some are gettin a good push but did u ever expect austin to get that push no so quit sayin what u ant and just let it happen, like john morrison everyoe says all this stuff about him well i actually dnt think hes even that good and if he does get a huge push sometime how is he gunna hold the ball, good or bad? i cant see it bein very good

 

[Midnight]

Perhaps I wasn't clear before. What I was trying to say that while I find the work DX does in the ring enjoyable, and I do, I was trying to say that we are simply getting too much of it. We are seeing them at least twice a night and that is overdoing it a little bit. Nothing against their plugs or humor directed at a younger audience. I think though the main issue is Hornswoggle. I was perfectly fine with their segments until Hornswoggle came along.

 

[shooter_mcgavin]

The problem I have with DX is because the DX of 1997 to 1998 was so natural and they did things that were crude but they were doing things like they meant it.

The thing about Vince McMahon and creative, is that what I have noticed, is that during the attitude era they stumbled upon success because of accidents. Austin and Rock were initially heels but eventually what they did, fans cheered for them, it was creative that decided that "hey fans love him" we need to capitalize on their mega baby face run. In the case of Austin, I always felt Cena's early main event run was built around emulating him over Austin. The badass attitude and a head GM trying to screw over him, but fans hated it, the problem with Cena is that it didnt feel natural. Austin/McMahon felt natural and heated, Cena/Bishoff did not.

This is the case of DX also, I recall Vince being against some of the stuff DX did on TV. But it caught on and this is what pushed the popularity of DX.

That's the diffrence with 1997 and today. DX of 1997 felt real and natural, you believed at what they were doing. The DX today seems like a desperate ploy to sell merchandise, part of the big WWE machine totally opposite from the rebellious attitude of DX.

 

[Kenny Powers]

The sad thing is DX and Jerishow are the only decent tag teams on WWE. There is a new team on ECW that isn't even on the roster yet. We have Legacy who hasn't won a match in months, and the stale feud between Hart Dynasty and Cryme Tyme which we have seen a thousand times. WWE needs to create new tag teams or do away with the tag division altogether.

Instead of having actually teams, it has just been 2 main eventers or mid carders thrown together a the last minute to be a team. As far as DX goes, they were stale in 2006. They are even more stale now. I would love for someone to prove to me that DX or Hornswoggle skits have increased ratings or merchandise. Last time I checked Raw was doing low 3.2 ratings over the past few weeks.

Even the crowd doesn't give DX or Hornswoggle a reaction anymore. Most the time you can hear a pin drop during their promos. I would prefer to see Shawn against Triple H or how about we put Swagger against one of two. It worked wonders for Kofi, and even Shaemus is getting a push. Why not put Swagger or even The Miz against Shawn or Triple H.

Anything is better then lets plug our merchandise why poking fun at how obviously horrible the creative writing staff is. Triple H making fun of the writing staff is like Sheamus making fun of albinos. Triple H and Stephanie are just as responsible for the writing as the other members of the creative team. Anyone who wants to defend DX, all I ask is there any feud besides maybe Legacy that you have cared about with DX?

There is more important things then merchandise and ratings, which WWE clearly hasn't achieved lately. The only good thing about DX, if you can call it that, is the almost extinct tag team division that them and Jerishow are keeping alive.

 

[The Doctor]

I don't think they're bad at all. I enjoy them, actually. They look like two old guys having fun, and I'm fine with that.

I've always found obvious product placement to be funny, so I like it when they shill their stuff as long as it doesn't invade the show. And I would rather have fun-loving Triple H than serious, world-title-grabbing Triple H.

 

[healyz84]

I am completely sick of DX right now, and its not even just because of over-exposure. When they first came back and feuded with Priceless, they were good, they were serious, and they helped to build up Priceless. After this, they should have broken up and gone their separate ways, but they did not. Now they are getting on my nerves, with their stupid plugs for their crappy merchandise, their constant jokes and unfunny humor (this was funny in 1996, not 2009, grow up).

I hate that DX is joking around, then super serious, then joking around again all in one show. And do they need to poke fun of the obvious, like bad writing, just because they know they can't be fired. Don't make the parts of your show that are a little lagging pointed out, its stupid.

I can understand HBK acting in this way, this was always his character. He's the showstopper, and the main event, the icon. He is smug, he puts people down, and he is not serious until ring time. HHH is more of a polar opposite. His only care is to be the wwe champion, unless he has forgotten this. HHH is the cerebral assassin, he is the consumate professional, he is mr. serious. Besides his early days in DX and his time as the leader of the 2nd version, he has was practically the serious guy for 10 years. This is what HHH is good at, and he needs to get at it.

I actually tape the Raw telecasts just because when DX appears, I can fast forward all their talking, their stupid merchandise stuff, and just get to the wrestling. Do us a favor wwe and break these guys up!

 

[jamesman22]

I too am sick of seeing DX reform every damn time Shawn Michaels recovers from burning out after wrestlemania. Its annoying and Its not the DX of the past. Its too god damned PG and having hornswoggle there is just as annoying. The DX that we all know and love died when they disbanded at the end of the Attitude era and every reformation of them after that has been a joke. Lets just hope that people start realizing that DX is not what it used to be and decide to boo them. But of course that won't happen thanks to them advertising to kids. Damn, why did vince change WWE to PG?

 

[wrestleman]

me im a huge fan of triple h but the ******ed gimmits are ruining his status the migit should be fired have shawn turn on triple h not the other way around and dx isnt funny any more im hoping that withen the next two years it will be shawn,triple h,orton,cena,kingston,tedall feuding to the next armageddin hell in a cell thats why i think vince came up with this

 

[RatedRko2480]

Its not like raw is any better without them but good god. DX is so shitty now i think its a complete embarassment to the original dx days, just stop it already! You cant tell me they think this is good television, i mean come on hornswoggle! WTF! Tell one thing why isnt legacy in the unified tag team chase, dx pushed the shit out of them all summer just for them to beat them at every ppv.I really think hhh just calls the shots and he knows that dx will sell merch! They hardly even wrestle anymore, this is not how Shawn Michaels a fucking legend should be remembered in his last few months of wwe. I really fear for wwe future if this is what it keeps shiting out...

 

[Jack-Hammer]

If DX would cut out the corny skits and were more serious about things, I'd have no problem with them at all. The things that are wrong with DX are minor things that could be easily fixed if only the WWE would. I don't care if they're two guys in their 40s, they're still two of the best overall workers in the business right now.

The DX feud with JeriShow has kept me entertained and while it may be the only thing going on in tag team wrestling in the WWE, it's still the most entertaining thing going on in tag team wrestling period, whether you look in WWE or TNA.

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

If DX would cut out the corny skits and were more serious about things, I'd have no problem with them at all. The things that are wrong with DX are minor things that could be easily fixed if only the WWE would. I don't care if they're two guys in their 40s, they're still two of the best overall workers in the business right now.

The DX feud with JeriShow has kept me entertained and while it may be the only thing going on in tag team wrestling in the WWE, it's still the most entertaining thing going on in tag team wrestling period, whether you look in WWE or TNA.

Jack Hammer, that is an excellent point. It's a point so basic, however it merits emphasizing.

You hear all the time from people stating that they HATE the humor. And I agree with them. The humor is absolutely awful, stale, and incredibly childish. Why should I be cheering for DX? They don't appeal to me at all. They appeal to children.

I think the question should be asked:

"WHY SHOULD DX BE A HUMOROUS GROUP?"

DX really wasn't a comedic group when it first started. They were a bunch of juveniles, however they were Heels. They were the "Bad Boys".

I agree with Jack Hammer in which all DX would need to do to be taken more seriously with a lot of the people is simply STOP being humorous. It's obvious that their humor is horrendous and it simply isn't funny.

Just stop being a humorous group and the fans will take DX more seriously, and likely they will get a better reaction. Go back to being the "Bad Boys of the WWE" ... and give them some edge again. I'm sure you can still find ways to do this in a PG WWE.

 

[wolvdog316]

I wish DX would turn heel, would destroy everybody, with Shawn as champ. I wish Cena would turn heel. I wish Hornswallows would go take a trip to Fantasy island.

But until the kiddies stop asking mommy and daddy for glow sticks and dx shirts and dx dvds and dx bears nothing will change. And honestly that's how it should be

If you run a business and business is going great, you don't change something dramatically. You just run with it and try to have some ideas in place when the well runs dry

And I think thats why Miz and Morrison and Shemans and Kofi "Your way too beautiful" Kingston are getting big pushes.

I would however love to see Michaels vs HHH just one more time.

But then you'd have people bitching about "Oh god not this shit again" so nobody ever wins

 

[King Douche]

Actually DX was a humorous gorup back during the Attitude Era. They would do promos in comedy fashion at times, like the strip poker and the HHH/HBK European Championship match when HHH won cause HBK let him and they did that fake cry/celebration at the end in comedy fashion. So DX was cracking jokes and all that. Now they were funny back then when they did it, but now their not. Their just 2 40 year old frat boys and its silly and cheesy. I agree be serious now and just talk trash, not lame jokes about people, then kick major ass.

 

[therealicon86]

Well, i want to say ...(let me get my reading glasses) ive been a longtime triple h fan (even when he did that bow thing) and alot of you hate him just to follow a fucking trend. i mean trips has truly lived up to the term "student of the game" look at it alot of your favorite stars after their match they go home and and practice guitar hero trips is always trying to make his mat game better he's the first one there he is the last one to leave. and alot of you say he is in the title picture too much.

If you followed trips like i have then you will know that he earned it. i mean yeah he is a 13 time world champ, but thats because he earned it. and let me say that his relationship with steph has nothing to do with it. and for your information triple h was a world champion way before him and steph started dating so that tells you that vince does not award "son-in-laws" he awards talent and trips has that. and him and steph did not noticed they liked eachother until they did the mcmahon-helmsley angle so come on get off of his sack and its the same critics that tuned into raw week after week to see what trips had up his sleeve that night so admit it you hate trips cause he has without a doubt earned his spot.

Now he is trying to make a spot for other talent and alot of you say vince we need new talent to get a push.....fuck what do you guys want...he has given you ingrates his own money...he is trying to push drew mcentire, kofi kingston, john morrison, sheamus and others im sure and yet you guys still bitch and then you guys knock vince for doing what you want then when he doesn't you jump on him i mean you people are fickle. i mean god damn i think alot of you are just computer nerds who post at least 300+ posts/replys just because none of you have nothing better to do but bitch, piss and moan if you are going to post something post something good such as what do you think the best dvd is of all time. or what would a dream match of yours will be or rivalries that you would like to see that has never been done shit like that.

You guys are so fucking negative. man i bet right now if either vince or trips came in right now you all would join the kiss my ass club. you guys are just trend followers but i bet none of you can say anything good about trips or vince and if you ask me they are 2 of the most important aspects of the attitude era i mean dx of '97 or the dx army who invaded wcw. or the mcmahon-austin fued i mean come on guys its getting repititious i think you guys need to watch some fucking desperate housewives if you like bitching about the same shit.

 

[King Douche]

Nothing is wrong with HHH really. I preferred him when he was the Connecticut Blue Bloo,d but thats just me personally. I just wish DX would be more serious as a group and stop with the Saturday Night Live jokes or toilet humor, or go back to the real DX that we all know and love. But I wish DX would end so HBK can be isngle and get one last World Championship reign. Of course HHH will get a few more regisn but I wish that would be as heel HHH, since heel HHH is better then babyface HHH. Even though I know HHH cannot go back to the Blue Blood, gimmick I wish he could/did. Be awesome to see him being a cocky, arrogant, snooby S.O.B. again. Teaching peopel how to act and talk properly and stuff like that.

 

[DirtyJosé]

you guys are just trend followers but i bet none of you can say anything good about trips or vince

1: Vince McMahon is the champion of production quality, and he has proven in the past that he can step down from the throne into the nitty gritty operations and truly succeed (See also: the year 1998).

2: Paul Levesque has an obvious passion for the industry. It's also easy for many to dismiss how easy he's had it, when it hasn't always been that way (See also: who got punished for the MSG incident). He is quite simply one of the baddest heels the company has ever had.

Now with that out of the way, I'd like to point out that while it is true that Triple H draws a high number of criticisms launched his way just because he's Triple H, it's also true that there are also many who blindly jump under the bus for him and respond in a manner similar to the "trips haters". Just as I would ask one person not to assume that Triple H is the reason his favorite superstar can't get over, I would ask another person not to assume that critique and criticism of his work (current or past) is a condemnation of neither his character nor himself. The thread is about the current DX run. This is not "The People VS Triple H".

And about that (DX that is), how violently I react to seeing them on the mic is directly related to the mood I'm in. They rarely peak above being "amusing on mute". I can't really say it's because they suck, but because the role they are given this time isn't what I'm into. That's ok, because I've been watching the product for a much longer time than the audience they are admittedly courting these days. If glow sticks and DX cat ears get big pops (and bucks) from the kids, who am I to tell them to quit it? But I would tell them to at least separate it a little more from the very top of the card. I really don't know how to feel about the upcoming tag title match at TLC because even though it's got all these people I love seeing work, half of them seem that they can't be bothered to notice that they even have a title match coming. They even seemed to care a bit more about singles title match they had than they do about the tag titles...so why are they even in the match?

I get it, you can't just bury them to the bottom of the card *ahembullshit*, but they don't need to be. If you want to have them around for the kiddie time, keep them in the kiddie hour (9:30 to 10:30). Let them go to Smackdown and work with the Hart Dynasty kids some more, or (god forbid) send them to ECW to give the newbies something to really cut their teeth on. Whatever it takes, just keep them out of the main event stuff. Keep them with Chavo and the Master-of-bouncing-chesties and the Marellas (Santino and Santina).

 

[Ambiguous Turd]

So it sounds like what I am gathering is that a lot of posters feel that DX needs to cut the corny humor ... actually, cut the humor altogether, and go back to being the rogue group they used to be ... just without the raunch (well, that is what it would have to be in today's PG WWE) ... but that is doable as far as I'm concerned.

I think the group would actually be far more over with the fans if they were portrayed as badasses, as opposed to the 40 year old frats from Old School, who aren't even funny. Why does Vince think that DX has to be "funny" and "teamed with Hornswoggle" in order to get over?

Why?

Because it's all about the merchandise. And who buys the Merchandise is the Teens and Kiddies. So they feel they get the teens with the DX humor. They get the Kiddies with Hornswoggle. And they don't think the adults will care because after all, it's Shawn Michaels and Triple H we are talking about, so to Hell with the adults. They'll buy the PPV's anyway.

But my question would have to be, do even the teens find DX funny? Do Kids find Hornswoggle funny? Do both groups find their target group funny enough to buy their merchandise in the quantities that WWE is looking for?

When we start seeing Hornswoggle gear being worn by kids, which to be frank, I have yet to see, maybe we'll know the answer to that.

But I personally think even teens would find an edgier, more serious DX appealing than what we see today with their piss poor attempt at humor, which likely Vince only finds funny.

 

[jayteeERA]

Ok PEP3. You wanna talk how this thread is for ppl to talk about wrestling and ppl to give their opinions on DX, and you are tired of cop out lines like "If its old don't watch it" Hell it makes sense. I don't like santino and hornswoggle and everytime they come out. I fast foward or change channel. Its that simple. You talk about "if i don't like what I'm reading don't read" Well follow your advice if you didn't like my last response don't read it. I understand some ppl can't stand DX and I respect that. I know what the forums are for. "DUH"

PPL always says DX is stale. Well WWE itself is stale. When HHH and HBK were feuding. Everybody wanted DX back. Now they are back everybody wants them to split. "MAKE UP YOUR MIND". DX is not like they once were. They are older and they are for the kids. But they still put on a great show.

I like the DX humor too, its a part of their character. (Even tho for kid) I wouldn't change it. Maybe DX should get serious like Kane & UT. Then ppl will go nuts about that.

 

[DirtyJosé]

But my question would have to be, do even the teens find DX funny? Do Kids find Hornswoggle funny? Do both groups find their target group funny enough to buy their merchandise in the quantities that WWE is looking for?

I wish I could cite this better, but I do remember reading about how the WWE gathers feedback from the live crowds. I think this information along with merchandise sales is what the WWE team is working with when they decide what to spend time doing. This would explain why Hornswoggle and other similar comedy acts still get so much time without having to push as much merchandise. If all those kids you see in the crowds on Raw these days make it clear to WWE that they loved seeing the little green bastard running around, WWE will continue to deliver.

DX doesn't have to do anything to sell merch. They only need to show up. I think it's been made pretty clear that this isn't a serious stable out to win, but a cheap writing trick to get Triple H out of the main event with Orton (Thank. God.) and into a gravy train on Shawn's train to retirement (what ever that word means in this industry).

I would love to see them do the heel thing, but I sadly don't see that actually happening anytime soon.