Domestic football - spam version

[Ming]

There's a difference between a misunderstanding and a false accusation to the police.

A false accusation? So if a player's been (or thought they were) racially abused, he/she should just keep their mouths shut? No. How else are they meant to "kick out" racism?

Chelsea have essentially cried rape. It could ruin Clattenberg's career and that is not on.

As for his incompetence, I have seen far, far worse than the "poor" decisions he gave against Chelsea. Neither of the reds were overly poor. Torres' was definitely debatable but explainable by "not all contact is a foul" while Ivanovic's was a blatant straight red by the rules of the game.

Oh, and technically Suarez's racism was a misunderstanding. That did not get him away with it.

Clattenberg's career is already ruined, the extremely poor decisions he gave against Chelsea (because that's what they were, fucking poor) are the reason Man Utd are top of the table. We all know how close things can get in the title race and if Man Utd win the title by two or less points, those awful decisions will have cost Chelsea or Manchester City a Premier League Title, granting Man Utd one. What about what happened with Suarez? Two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[Барбоса]

The only arguably poor decision was the Torres red. Hernandez's winner was not his fault and any other referee would have correctly sent off Ivanovic.

Setting your Chelsea hat aside, if this were Liverpool in the wake of the Suarez debacle accusing a ref of racism, you would be all over them. Chelsea are coming off as at best petty, at worst vindictive, while Bruce Buck makes himself look like a moron

 

[Lee]

Exactly, if he felt he was racially abused get off the pitch. Get the entire team off the pitch. I'm sure Rio would join in with the support so Man U should march off too.

None of that was done, not even a look to the bench to say "What the fuck?!" It's only after two red cards that they've cried.

Also that hasn't cost Chelsea the title. Failing to score past QPR has cost the title.

 

[Ming]

The only arguably poor decision was the Torres red. Hernandez's winner was not his fault and any other referee would have correctly sent off Ivanovic.

Hence why I mentioned earlier that he shouldn't be the only match official sacked. On the Ivanovic red: It turned I was spot on about what I said. I said not long ago, that red would never be given in Old Trafford against Man Utd. Well, it turns outs it would never be given against Man Utd at Stamford Bridge too, a player for Man Utd committed a deliberate last man foul in the League Cup straight after the fixture we're speaking of, and only recieved a yellow card for it.

Setting your Chelsea hat aside, if this were Liverpool in the wake of the Suarez debacle accusing a ref of racism, you would be all over them. Chelsea are coming off as at best petty, at worst vindictive, while Bruce Buck makes himself look like a moron

I'd be all over Liverpool if it happened because Suarez is a donkey-faced cunt that loves the attention. If Mikel believed that he was racially abused then I have no idea why he wouldn't report it, isn't English Football campaigning to be rid of racism? Mikel's entitled to file a complaint or whatever he did. And Chelsea have always supported their players and their decisions as have Liverpool. I remember a time last year where Dalglish made a fool of himself to defend Suarez. Dalglish came off as deranged. So don't criticise Chelsea for something Liverpool have done but worse.

 

[Ming]

Exactly, if he felt he was racially abused get off the pitch. Get the entire team off the pitch. I'm sure Rio would join in with the support so Man U should march off too.

Bollocks. If Chelsea did such a thing, I can tell you Chelsea would have much more criticism from everybody. Especially if it turned out to be a misunderstanding.

None of that was done, not even a look to the bench to say "What the fuck?!" It's only after two red cards that they've cried.

Also that hasn't cost Chelsea the title. Failing to score past QPR has cost the title.

Huh. So Chelsea should have what? Reported to the FA mid-match even though nobody is capable of reading Mikel's mind? So in that case, every team should report racism in middle of a match in case it's happening?



Chelsea would have reported after the match win or lose. And you CLEARLY didn't watch the QPR match, because 'twas a poor choice for your argument Lee. Chelsea should have had two penalties that match, so that's three points Chelsea have been cheated out of, thanks for the reminder. Only ten games into the season as well. How else would Man Utd win the title?

 

[Remix]

Yep, everything's a conspiracy for Man United to win the league instead of Chelsea...

 

[Ming]

Yep, everything's a conspiracy for Man United to win the league instead of Chelsea...

Well, when a Man Utd player points a finger and yells "racist!" A player will face an eight match ban. When a Chelsea player does it, Chelsea should be deducted points. Even though match officials incompetence has already deducted Chelsea of three rightful points.

 

[Remix]

Well, when a Man Utd player points a finger and yells "racist!" A player will face an eight match ban. When a Chelsea player does it, Chelsea should be deducted points. Even though match officials incompetence has already deducted Chelsea of three rightful points.

Are you seriously implying that Lee, a Newcastle fan who calls Man U 'manure' and Barbosa, a Liverpool fan and generally one of the most reasonable guys around have an anti-Chelsea/Pro-Man U bias?

LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

 

[Ming]

Are you seriously implying that Lee, a Newcastle fan who calls Man U 'manure' and Barbosa, a Liverpool fan and generally one of the most reasonable guys around have an anti-Chelsea/Pro-Man U bias?

LISTEN TO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING!

The anti-Chelsea/Pro-Man U bias thing is aimed at the Premier League officials, Man Utd fans, executives etc. after the conspiracy comment you made. Not Lee and Barbosa. Lee and Barbosa are just wrong on particular subjects relating to Man Utd and Chelsea. Maybe you should listen to what I'm saying.

 

[Барбоса]

It turned I was spot on about what I said. I said not long ago, that red would never be given in Old Trafford against Man Utd. Well, it turns outs it would never be given against Man Utd at Stamford Bridge too, a player for Man Utd committed a deliberate last man foul in the League Cup straight after the fixture we're speaking of, and only recieved a yellow card for it.

If you think that that proves you "right" then you are definitely allowing your Chelsea supporting to cloud your judgement.

I'd be all over Liverpool if it happened because Suarez is a donkey-faced cunt that loves the attention. If Mikel believed that he was racially abused then I have no idea why he wouldn't report it, isn't English Football campaigning to be rid of racism? Mikel's entitled to file a complaint or whatever he did. And Chelsea have always supported their players and their decisions as have Liverpool. I remember a time last year where Dalglish made a fool of himself to defend Suarez. Dalglish came off as deranged. So don't criticise Chelsea for something Liverpool have done but worse.

And you think that people are criticising Chelsea purely due to an anti-Chelsea bias and it has nothing to do with the fact that John Terry is almost universally despised?

The decisions given against or not given for Suarez this season - probably 5 pens, numerous offsides and a winner in the derby - are far worse than those against Chelsea. Its called "reaping what you sow."

Well, when a Man Utd player points a finger and yells "racist!" A player will face an eight match ban. When a Chelsea player does it, Chelsea should be deducted points. Even though match officials incompetence has already deducted Chelsea of three rightful points.

Or when a Chelsea player is racist, he only gets 4 games so he can be on the pitch to score against Liverpool?

Do you really think that the league is already over or that Chelsea won't get or have not already gotten some soft/poor decisions go their way such as Torres being miles offside against Reading in August?

 

[Miko]

Personally I am a huge fan of the bias against Chelsea, I cant think of a team that deserve to be held back more

 

[Ming]

If you think that that proves you "right" then you are definitely allowing your Chelsea supporting to cloud your judgement.

How isn't it right? I said that the red card given against Ivanovic would never be given against a Man Utd player and it wasn't just two or three days later. A yellow was given.

And you think that people are criticising Chelsea purely due to an anti-Chelsea bias and it has nothing to do with the fact that John Terry is almost universally despised?

John Terry has very little involvement in this particular matter. Which again proves myself right. Mikel was the one racially abused and Chelsea, as a club, filed a complaint yet Chelsea are still being criticised. If John Terry wasn't at Chelsea I assure you things would be no different.

The decisions given against or not given for Suarez this season - probably 5 pens, numerous offsides and a winner in the derby - are far worse than those against Chelsea. Its called "reaping what you sow."

When have I ever disagreed with this? Although I think you're exaggerating at "five" penalties, I completely agree that Liverpool have been screwed by match officials this season. However, Suarez doesn't exactly help himself, pulling off shit like he did against Stoke is bound to get him vilified. And do not say Chelsea have done something as elaborate or fucking stupid to get vilified. Because they haven't. Also, if those decisions were given properly, I still don't think Liverpool would be anywhere near the top four.

Or when a Chelsea player is racist, he only gets 4 games so he can be on the pitch to score against Liverpool?

Both players shouldn't have been charged. I think the fact that Terry had already been proven innocent and didn't appeal shortened his ban. Suarez hadn't been proven innocent, and Liverpool appealed.

Do you really think that the league is already over or that Chelsea won't get or have not already gotten some soft/poor decisions go their way such as Torres being miles offside against Reading in August?

I assure you, Chelsea's amount of luck is nothing compared to Man Utd's. Man Utd have had, and will always have, more decisions go their way than anybody. Not just Chelsea. I'm not saying Chelsea should have more bad decisions given for them, I'm saying things should be done properly and that there shouldn't be any decisions gone/going wrong.

I cant think of a team that has been held back more

Corrected.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Bollocks. If Chelsea did such a thing, I can tell you Chelsea would have much more criticism from everybody. Especially if it turned out to be a misunderstanding.



Huh. So Chelsea should have what? Reported to the FA mid-match even though nobody is capable of reading Mikel's mind? So in that case, every team should report racism in middle of a match in case it's happening?



Chelsea would have reported after the match win or lose. And you CLEARLY didn't watch the QPR match, because 'twas a poor choice for your argument Lee. Chelsea should have had two penalties that match, so that's three points Chelsea have been cheated out of, thanks for the reminder. Only ten games into the season as well. How else would Man Utd win the title?

By the power of prayer.

Spoiler

 

[Miko]

Corrected.

Seriously, I get off on it

 

[FunKay the Inevitable]

Wait...is he suggesting Suarez didn't use racist lanuage against Evra now because, y'know, he admitted that he said it. Chelsea couldn't even prove Clattenburg even remotely came across as racist.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Couldn't decide between posting this in the WWE13 thread and this one, until I could.

 

[Lee]

LOL Spurs.

 

[Lee]

West Brom are beating Chelsea. Is it the ref or Man U's fault?

 

[Tastycles]

Is anyone watching Sky Sports News? Bianca Westwood, who is covering the Wolves game, looks and sounds as if she's never watched football before. "Err..not really sure what the red card was for." I promise I'm not saying this because she's a woman.

 

[Lee]

So she's the woman Kamara?

 

[Lee]

Fucking hell Suarez is on fire.

 

[Lee]

Fucking hell Krul.

 

[Tastycles]

So she's the woman Kamara?

She makes Kamara look like a Pulitzer Prize winner.

My fantasy team is raping all comers today. Just need Demba Ba to bury one now.

 

[Lee]

And he did.

 

[Tastycles]

Aye. My flatmate had Tevez as his captain though, so Berbatov and Nolan have to see me right tomorrow.