Disrectful Brooklyn fans towards Big Show

[ABMorales787]

Okay Mr. Killjoy you have done a fine job of playing 3 card monte on these boards. You have successfully changed topics in an effort to confuse everyone to make it seem like you have a point. So here, we shall make this simple.

MY POINT:

No other sporting or major event fans PAY their hard earned money for the sole intention of going to a show and being disruptive through it, especially when it comes to ridiculing Legends.

YOUR POINT : It is not Disrespectful and fans do it in other genres besides wrestling.

Fine. I concede everything you have said as FACT!

Now please provide Me a link or any footage of this act happening ANYWHERE else but wrestling.

PERIOD.

Just one post or link in which FANS were chanting repeatedly for a Legend to RETIRE multiple times and I will never disagree with ANYTHING ELSE YOU PLACE ON THIS FORUM........

PERIOD.

Thank you Sir.

I will be waiting.

Why chant "Please Retire" when you can be far more creative expressing your displeasure.

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Yes. People do pay hard earned money to go be "disrespectful". It makes live events that are sub-par quite fun.

Now tell me again how "Please Retire" is so Goddamn horrifying when people openly sing "He Left 'Cause You're Shit", "You're a Pedophile", "You're Shagging The Ref", "Fat Granny Shagger" and my personal favorite "Adebayor! His dad washes elephants! And his mother's a ****e!"

But yeah. By all means. Tell me how horrifying and disrespectful it is to chant "Please Retire" at a man long past his prime who is firmly aware of it and just stay around because he feels like he can when it's not even the worst thing to be chanted at him.

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If people feel they want to voice their displease, they're gonna. Regardless. Be glad it's so mellow.

 

[ShinChan]

Noelle Foley totally nailed it here and if i remember correctly, It happened at Summerslam too in Brooklyn itself during the triple threat tag match although Sasha VS Bayley was cheered one night before the Summerslam at Takeover!

 

[Dysturbed]

People need to understand that this show was a screwup by Stamford, as half of their roster was at a "Live" event in Allentown.

While having a House Show on the night wasn't the best idea, the show being a "screwup" in the eyes of anyone who disliked it, wasn't due to their absence imo.

I think that The Dudleys, Wyatts, Charlotte, Paige, and Ziggler are really the only members of the regular rotation (not counting injured people) that weren't on the show. I guess we can add Breeze and Swagger to the list of the missing. Even if those wrestlers all appeared (which would have been nice), the show likely would have been just as good or bad as it would have been on par with the typical recent weeks. Even if a match replaced the Miz TV segment for example, the hypothetical match likely would have been viewed as something repetitive.

 

[Trill Co$by]

I've been annoyed with New York crowds for the longest time, and it's not just WWE ones. ROH fans can be quite disrespectful too, to the point where it really makes the product so unwatchable it's not funny. Keep in mind, this is the same disrespectful group of fans who chanted "Change the Channel" back in 2006 during a match between Batista and Big Show, which was in all honesty a very competitive match and entertaining. And to be honest, I would love it if WWE just completely stopped going to New York...

Honestly, I was quite pleased with how The League of Nations handled the crowd the other night during the wave, making a mockery of the crowd... just to show how stupid those morons in the bleachers are. Seriously, what's the point in paying all that money for tickets if you're not even going to watch the product? What's the point in clambering for longer divas matches if you're just going to shit on the matches? Matches featuring the same people they clambered for in the beginning!

Cities like Columbia, SC have a bad rep for being boring crowds... and as a SC resident who's attended these events, the crowd can be quite dead... but the reason why is because a lot of Southern wrestling fans grew up during the huge gimmick boom and just watched product as if they were watching television, or how the performance arts observers watch live operas.

Personally, I think places like Los Angeles and Cleveland often times make for the best crowds because when they get loud, they do it in a way that makes the show awesome and not take away from the product.

 

[X]

Is this thread a real thing? I know we're fans and prone to hero worship but Paul Wight has been paid MILLIONS of dollars to wrestle. Explain exactly what in the fuck I "owe" him for this? I don't give a fuck if he's wrestled 20 years or 20 minutes, if I don't like him and want to boo him, I'm going to fucking do it and I'm not going to feel guilty about it for one millisecond. Oh no! People booed this fucking millionaire for walking around and throwing a few fake punches and slams! This is clearly something worth taking two minutes to make a thread about! Oh, wait, no it fucking isn't because it took Show about 5 seconds to forget about it, BECAUSE HE'S FILTHY FUCKING RICH.

Threads like these make me think less of wrestling fans honestly. He has a fucking job and he's paid EXORBITANTLY well for said job, explain to me why in the fuck I should care about cheers or boos? You pay me a few hundred thousand a year and I'll sit in a chair while you pelt me with rotten tomatoes and call me a loser. If Wight has a problem with boos (which I'm about 99.9999% sure he doesn't because he's not a pathetic mark), too fucking bad. Put on your big boy shoes and get over it.

Dumb thread honestly. Fans can scream he's a fat piece of shit to his face and I couldn't care one iota. Why the fuck SHOULD you when you know the money he's making? Fucking boo hoo.

 

[Trill Co$by]

Is this thread a real thing? I know we're fans and prone to hero worship but Paul Wight has been paid MILLIONS of dollars to wrestle. Explain exactly what in the fuck I "owe" him for this? I don't give a fuck if he's wrestled 20 years or 20 minutes, if I don't like him and want to boo him, I'm going to fucking do it and I'm not going to feel guilty about it for one millisecond. Oh no! People booed this fucking millionaire for walking around and throwing a few fake punches and slams! This is clearly something worth taking two minutes to make a thread about! Oh, wait, no it fucking isn't because it took Show about 5 seconds to forget about it, BECAUSE HE'S FILTHY FUCKING RICH.

Threads like these make me think less of wrestling fans honestly. He has a fucking job and he's paid EXORBITANTLY well for said job, explain to me why in the fuck I should care about cheers or boos? You pay me a few hundred thousand a year and I'll sit in a chair while you pelt me with rotten tomatoes and call me a loser. If Wight has a problem with boos (which I'm about 99.9999% sure he doesn't because he's not a pathetic mark), too fucking bad. Put on your big boy shoes and get over it.

Dumb thread honestly. Fans can scream he's a fat piece of shit to his face and I couldn't care one iota. Why the fuck SHOULD you when you know the money he's making? Fucking boo hoo.

Someone's not heard the old expression money doesn't buy happiness. And even if it did, disrespect is disrespect. It's not about how much money someone makes, it's about showing decency. The guy's been doing this a lot longer than most fans have been alive, let alone watching... and if I'm being honest, he's done it quite well. So he turns heel and face a lot, who cares? The guy's 7 ft tall and weighing over 500lbs, the fact that he even walks still is a shock, because no amount of money can combat against science. If it did, then Walt Disney's homophobic ass would still be alive.

 

[Navi]

MY POINT:

No other sporting or major event fans PAY their hard earned money for the sole intention of going to a show and being disruptive through it, especially when it comes to ridiculing Legends.

No and most other sporting events aren't like the WWE. Yes we pay our hard earned money to go see our favourite wrestler's, whether it be Cena, Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins, Owens...and so on and so forth.

I doubt very highly that someone is paying just to go see Big Show. He is part and parcel of the event and you have to put up with him.

I'll give you an example. I was at the house show in Toronto tonight. The first match was great Neville/Miz. Now you might think it would be flat, but it was fast paced, the crowd boo'd the hell out of Miz and cheered like crazy for Neville. It started the night off well. The next match was a tag team match and the same thing. Fast paced and kept the crowd going.

Third match on the card was Big Show and Mark Henry. What a disappointment, and I felt so sorry for Mark Henry. First of all Big Show took forever to come out, when he did he got some boo's but the crowd had gone flat waiting for him. Then they picked it up for Henry, who was smiling and waving to everyone.

What happened next was the biggest crowd killer ever. Show wouldn't get in the ring. He kept getting up and then stepping off. It didn't take much for the "boring" chants to break out. Once or twice okay, but to take over 5 minutes to get into the ring when he was the first person out, that's ridiculous. The match itself was slow, plodding and just frankly outright awful.

Most of it consisted of Mark Henry being knocked down, and Big Show kicking him. The "boring" chants started again, this time they were louder than before. Thankfully the match was soon over and the fun picked back up because Owens and Ambrose where up next.

I paid my money to see the Owens/Ambrose and Cena/Del Rio matches, the only problem is I had to suffer through the Big Show match as well. Had that been the only match on the card, I wouldn't have spent the money. Toronto is a hot crowd, and Big Show just killed them tonight. That's why you have a main event with bigger names and other's like Show and Henry are fillers, but they shouldn't suck the air out of the building like they did tonight.

That's why people chant "please retire" and "boring" at him, because quite honestly he is now. He might have been exciting at some point, but like I said in my other post, he has been overused and fans are sick of seeing him. Use his sparingly and you won't get those fans chanting that. Keep shoving him out there and you will.

 

[J.J.]

I don't mind The Big Show, I never thought be would be around this long. He's taking it as fun from the crowd, he said this on the Jericho Podcast a while back. The Brooklyn crowd isn't the first to say it - it's definitely not as bad as fans with; "Die Rocky Die" posters.

 

[stingray11214]

Someone's not heard the old expression money doesn't buy happiness. And even if it did, disrespect is disrespect. It's not about how much money someone makes, it's about showing decency. The guy's been doing this a lot longer than most fans have been alive, let alone watching... and if I'm being honest, he's done it quite well. So he turns heel and face a lot, who cares? The guy's 7 ft tall and weighing over 500lbs, the fact that he even walks still is a shock, because no amount of money can combat against science. If it did, then Walt Disney's homophobic ass would still be alive.

Apparently you com from the PC generation where it should be illegal to be offended. Look, Show is only there because of the guaranteed contract. If it was like TNA, where they pay per performance, do you think he would have even been ON? He would be looking for his next paycheck right now in his mansion. As for us NYC fans being, ahem, "Disrespectful": Look, this is New York City. Brooklyn to be specific. Here, the strong survive and the weak are eaten. You have to be to put up with all the BS. Our fans in ANY sport are rough by nature. If you can handle NYC fans, you can handle anything.

As for the wrestling: As I have said in other posts, the NYC Metro area has long been a hotbed of the Indy scene. Every week, you can find cards within a hour's drive or train ride from my house. Back in the day, you would have upwards of 20 cards a MONTH in NYC ALONE. Not just WWWF, but some of the satellite promoters as well. We are very knowledgeable fans, and we can spot when we are getting screwed, ESPECIALLY by a an outfit like WWE. We look forward to RoH and Indy shows because it brings back the "old school". As for you? I think someone like yourself, like many on this board, are fans ONLY of WWE and not of Pro Wrestling. So, I will put this in your lap: You just paid $800 via StubHub for 2 prime seats on the floor for RAW, and VKM trotted out the crap you saw on Monday night. Are you going to stand there and say "Hooray!"?

 

[BestSportsEntertainer]

The more I think about it, the more "Please Retire" chants are beneficial to Big Show.

It gives him an easy chance to get heel heat (though maybe not in a good way) because he can respond "I'M NEVER GOING ANYWHERE!"

 

[JoeMallard]

I've been annoyed with New York crowds for the longest time, and it's not just WWE ones. ROH fans can be quite disrespectful too, to the point where it really makes the product so unwatchable it's not funny. Keep in mind, this is the same disrespectful group of fans who chanted "Change the Channel" back in 2006 during a match between Batista and Big Show, which was in all honesty a very competitive match and entertaining. And to be honest, I would love it if WWE just completely stopped going to New York...

Honestly, I was quite pleased with how The League of Nations handled the crowd the other night during the wave, making a mockery of the crowd... just to show how stupid those morons in the bleachers are. Seriously, what's the point in paying all that money for tickets if you're not even going to watch the product? What's the point in clambering for longer divas matches if you're just going to shit on the matches? Matches featuring the same people they clambered for in the beginning!

Cities like Columbia, SC have a bad rep for being boring crowds... and as a SC resident who's attended these events, the crowd can be quite dead... but the reason why is because a lot of Southern wrestling fans grew up during the huge gimmick boom and just watched product as if they were watching television, or how the performance arts observers watch live operas.

Personally, I think places like Los Angeles and Cleveland often times make for the best crowds because when they get loud, they do it in a way that makes the show awesome and not take away from the product.

I didn't hear any disrespectful chants at Takeover Brooklyn.

 

[DirtyD79]

Pro wrestling is not the business to get into if you want customers to give you ass pats. Big Show knows that. To be honest "Please retire" is probably one of the tamest things I've heard fans chant at wrestlers. Go watch the original ECW. Hell go watch a black wrestler workin' an indy fed in some Appalachian hillbilly town. You'll hear them yell all kinds of slurs you didn't even know existed.
Put simply some people are assholes. That's life.

 

[Straightfromthehart]

I know he's slow. I know he's turned heel/face more than once. But that's not his fault, just booked horrible booking!!! But the chants of "please retire" towards Show wasn't heat. It was very disrespectful and hate filled..the man busted his ass for over 20 years. All for your entertainment!!!

He won a world title in his first match. He's been Wwe world champ, ECW world champ, wcw world champ, wwe tag team champ, wwe US championship, IC championship, hardcore champ, member of NWO, won 1st ever Andre the giant battle royal. And much more..

What more does he have to do to be respected??

1 thing...be entertaining. Title have meant very little since the early 2000's when the belts got passed round like a common cold. Big show does not put on great matches, and the whole "giant" image had worn off before he even got to wwe. While I don't agree with the chant, fans are well within their rite to chant what they like.

 

[J.J.]

1 thing...be entertaining. Title have meant very little since the early 2000's when the belts got passed round like a common cold. Big show does not put on great matches, and the whole "giant" image had worn off before he even got to wwe. While I don't agree with the chant, fans are well within their rite to chant what they like.

Those titles were passed around even more back then. World, IC, European, Tag and we will just save the Hardcore title from this one. There's no separating the whole "giant" image from him because well that's what he is, much like Mark Henry is a strong man.