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Cryptic "01/02/2012" Video - Chris Jericho Returns- KEEP IT IN HERE! - NO SPAMMING!

Ok here is the final video in clear quality.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgyJsaXuOxg&feature=player_embedded

I was convinced last week it was Jericho. The mapleleaf that magicaly disappeared when it was focused on, the name crossed out (I made out a C as the first letter and s as the last letter). Watch on youtube in 1080p and pause when its on the ground and you should too, and the fact the girl says "do you understand?"

Tonights I would be shocked if it wasnt for Jericho. It interrupts CM Punk (at least on TV, I dont know if it did it for the live audience.), but the biggest thing it shows the world globe like 6 different times, including the spinning of it. They both claim the best in the world, so a world globe is a perfect item to have if its indeed Jericho and the fact it played while Punk was in the ring. It also at the end said once again "do you understand?" There was a story that said tonights should be pretty obvious on who it is and I think a WORLD globe made it almost too obvious.

Another thing and maybe this is looking into it to much. That globe isnt always in the video when the same counter is shown both with the globe on it and off it. Its there when its just her, when hes toward the wall corner its not, when hes on the desk freaking out and shes behind him its there, it than focus on the globe for a split second, than hes in the seat with her behind him and once again the globe is there, hes than facing the wall corner with her behind him and for the second time when hes in the corner the globe is not there, but right after it has a close up of the globe spinning.

Also pause when it shows the stairwell it looks like the girl running through the windows on the outside (maybe indicating outside looking in IE Jericho being on the outside).

I figured it out I think. The fourth video the last thing it said was "control 2012". The WORLD globe is only shown when she is in control (when shes by herself in the room throwing the book down, and when shes standing behind him when hes sitting and is covering his face seeming confused/lost.) SHE CONTROLS THE WORLD (IE the world globe in the room that is only shown when shes in a controlling situation.)
 
Plus It's funny that the WWE aint acknowledgin the promos hilarity. It's someone from the USA Network makin their debut as the WWE has no knowledge of these "PROMO" Videos. Plus if you go to the original youtube page the Age of the person accounts is 43. 3 yrs older than Jericho but 2 yrs younger the Taker. Plus the Clock is at the time 11:02 so that's probably when whomever or whatever will return or debut.

I hate over analyzing these kinds of things but I am going to anyway. The clock shows the time as 11:02. Underneath the hands of the clock is a seemingly out of place number 7. 11:02 plus 7 is 11:09. which is Jericho's birthday. November 9th, 11/09.
 
Johnny Ace was on his cell phone during a backstage segment and announced that Brodus Clay would debut on January 2, 2011. /endofmystery
 
Are all you people crazy? You are all looking way to far into things.

1. The number 7 is not out of place on the clock. It is the manufacturer's symbol. The purpose of the clock is to reveal the time of the return/debut. The clock shows the time 11:02 (the end of RAW next week) and then begins moving forward to the time 11:05.

2. The trees do not show shapes/letters. Stop smoking pot and you will see that.

3. The globe does not represent the championship. CM Punk is the WWE champion not the world champion. There is the flaw in that logic. The globe has been featured in all the videos though, and the globe has always been centered on western Africa.

In all honesty, there are no clear clues to any one person. If I had to make a choice, I would choose Shane McMahon. A gut feeling says its him.

Now, lets examine what will be going on at the time of the debut. We already know that the main event will be CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler for the WWE championship. Given that; Dolph, Punk, Vickie, and John Laurinaitus will all most likely be at ringside. If it is a heel return, they would most likely side with Vickie and John Laurinaitus (Would Jericho do this?). If it is a face, they would help CM Punk from a possible post-match beat-down.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UaPT1Y8Qdo

Could this finally become something?
 
I agree the globe doesnt represent the titles. As I said its a WORLD globe with Jericho being "the best in the WORLD at what he does." Also Punk says hes the best in the world.
 
Honestly eventhough it sounds like Y2J and I thought it was for him...I just don't think it'll be him....cus Vince always does stuff like that...maybe it was supposed to be him but once everyone was saying it was him creative prob changed it...I just think Jericho is just too obvious and the timing is too perfect...it'll prob be someone else watch....Jericho doesn't seem ready right now he's really into his whole Fozzy crap....but never know..hope its Jericho, but doubt it will be him...also like I said before there are NO meanings they just show random videos to confuse the shit out of us and it worked....they will never explain or discuss any of those things in the video...they usually don't and I don't think they care either.
 
the clock shows 11:02 and 11:05

the hour 11 can also be 23h , if it's 11 pm

23h02 --- 23 + 2 = 25

The 25th letter of the alphabet is ... Y

23h05 --- 23 + 5 = 28

The alphabet has 26 letters, continue counting from the start adding 2 more, and you get B as the 28. B is the alphabet's letter nº ... 2

The clock mark on the middle upside down, or the clock pointers seem to form a ... J

am i going to far ? ..... lol
 
Hey dudes... new here. Hopefully this hasnt been posted already. I watched the 4th promo:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRo_8yiU2Kk&feature=related

The words at the start of the video are similar to those in Matthew 24:3 "And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what [shall be] the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? "

Read through this, maybe some answers in here? Seems to all relate.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Mat&c=24&t=KJV

.....

Video 2 is from Isaiah 35:4

Video 1 is from Isaiah 26:20
 
Regardless of who it is retuning and/or heel-turning, it would certainly make sense for them to show up during the Punk v Ziggler title match, resulting in Punk being distracted and Ziggler capitalizing for the win. This will strip Punk of the title which was already in talks due to ratings, it will put Punk back into a decent watch-able feud with who ever returned and cost him his title (i.e Heel Cena, Jericho, Vince/Shane or any one else rumoured to return) and will also give Ziggler a decent push by giving him a title win on a raw show.

Looking forward to next week that's for sure!
 
the clock shows 11:02 and 11:05

the hour 11 can also be 23h , if it's 11 pm

23h02 --- 23 + 2 = 25

The 25th letter of the alphabet is ... Y

23h05 --- 23 + 5 = 28

The alphabet has 26 letters, continue counting from the start adding 2 more, and you get B as the 28. B is the alphabet's letter nº ... 2

The clock mark on the middle upside down, or the clock pointers seem to form a ... J

am i going to far ? ..... lol

I think you're reading into it a but much lol
 
I'm trying to not think too hard into who the 1/2/12 guy is. One of the segments of RAW last night was Johnny Ace talking to Brodus Clay so I think they're gonna debut him next week to either get it out of the way or make it a bit more confusing to people who is really going to debut(or return). My first pick to be honest is Jericho, only possible answer. It'll be quite the swerve if it turns out to be Taker. That'll be sick either way.
 
I'm going to throw out my initial knee-jerk thought and one out of the box thought.

My initial instinct is to say it's the return of Mr. McMahon to TV. With all the talk of "returning to take what is his" and such, it seems like it would be a good fit, especially since it has been reported before that his television return is imminent.

Here's another one I'm going to throw out there for kicks just because I couldn't help but think about it and no one seems to have mentioned it yet. We have a red headed girl saying I cannot help you any more. We have talk of a second coming. The name Chris is crossed out, implying possible that it specifically isn't Chris or might be someone that even hated Chris for some reason. "Look within" could imply finding the courage and fortitude to strengthen one's self. "Control" could imply a position or role. Combining all of these things...what if the red headed girl implies Lita and the returning person was Edge, possibly as a new full time GM role to replace the fill-in Laurenitis? It's a stretch but you never know.
 
The 'E' is setting up next week's show to be HUGE, which by the way is the start of the cable industry's sweeps month...start with Brodus' announced re-debut. Sorry, folks, but I see his first match back as running amuck over a Santino-type. Won't be exciting, till after the match when another young stud re-debuts on WWE TV to give him some stiff competition...Skip Sheffield! That's two down from the mystery promos. Those two will spend a little time this winter trying to get each other over.

Cena & Kane will continue to chat it up-after tonight, it's obvious Kane would rather 'switch' Cena than fight him; he's looking for a partner in crime. Based on Kane's comments tonight, seems he's a monster, but he's being positioned as a temporary tweener, just like Cena is now, till 'Mania time when they'll establish their full heel personas. Based on Kane 'coaching up' Cena alone, that eliminates Cena from the mystery promo possibility.

Batista is intriguing, but there's two big problems: 1) He may have been working out, but he hasn't been WRESTLING, and that's a big deal when you already aren't that mobile to begin with, and 2) He wasn't in 'control' of ANYTHING when he left except Melina, and she already split (that's right, I said it). Having said that, I say Dave will end up being the guy on the other end of Laurenitis' texts, but they'll reveal that when they bust him out as a surprise entry at the Rumble. Then he'll run around with the suit & shades and gather his army together so others can do his dirty work and he can wrestle part-time at the ppv's. But not on 1/2/2012...

Taker doesn't need a long build, his character speaks for itself and has so much cred, he could wait to show up unannounced at the RAW before WM28
and still spike interest, so it's not him. He'll be around about 4-5 weeks out for HHH, which is probably a good commitment timeline for HBK if the dirt sheets are correct. These mystery videos are in the late morning (11 am), study-hall-type settings, not at night. Last I checked, UT has never been the Lord of Dawnness, and an ABA wouldn't be caught dead with the geeks at school-he's trying to mack on the cheerleaders instead...

I will mark out SO HARD if this is Jericho, and I really want it to be him, and after reading his second book, he definitely left the door open to continue his wrestling career, but he and his kids are getting older and raising his family is paramount to his life. He'll want them to see him perform when they're old enough to remember, but not just yet. He denied his return last time, but not remotely to the extent he's done this time. Jericho truly believes he can achieve the same success with Fozzy that he's done with the 'E', but that won't be possible if he's coming back as a heel. He already ran into that problem when they toured and were booed due to his wrestling persona; the marks can't discern the difference, and it hurt his band's business. I don't think he's quite ready to give up that dream, so for those who think he needs the 'E's TV exposure, the above is an argument of a detriment for him...

As for Brock Lesnar-fuggetaboutit. Even at his reduced state, he's still Dana White's cash cow, and knows how to get them in the tent. Besides, he's still under contract, and wouldn't be able to sign with the 'E' at the same time. He's already proven himself to have ZERO passion for sports entertainment (see Goldberg), so VKM isn't going to hitch his wagon to that horse. So he's going to fight Overeem, potentialy lose, then come to WWE two days later as an UNBEATABLE force? That doesn't make sense, even in the most convoluted wrestling logic...

I think some people are underestimating Shane's ability to be involved with this thing. Other than the obvious signs in the video, his main job with YOU on Demand is to bring in new programming. Earlier this year the 'E' toured China for the first time, and you best believe some of Shane's investors had to have attended a show or two. Even if he still has issues with Dad, if VKM taught him anything, is to do what's right for business. If the 'E' gets hot again, YOD (and it's 1.3 BILLION potential viewers) stands to make a mint marrying with the 'E,' and the Boy Wonder knows that better than anyone.

It would be nothing for him to come in every 3 or 4 weeks for an appearance, with Stephanie (the girl) as the surrogate. She just got off the road as a writer, but that wouldn't stop her from flying in as a character, and the kids would barely miss her for a night. Bitter brother & sister (later w/UT) trying to take over vs. sister's husband (later w/VKM)=RATINGS. It's a reversal of roles from the Ministry of Darkness from '98, but with a "reality" TV twist at its finest. Taker-HHH WM28 used as pawns-winner gets control of the company, and with company man HBK in the mid, that's must-see television, my friends. Who but the McMahons would affect the most change and impact throughout the company? That's right, NOBODY. It's the least expected circumstance, thus would have maximum effect. Bet the house...but don't come to mine if you lose.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgyJsaXuOxg&feature=player_embedded&noredirect=1

This is the link to the video. If you pause at 0:36 where they show the bench, to the far right of your screen near the tree will be one whom the 1/2/2011 is for. Good luck for identifying him. If I manage to get a pic, I'll post it.

First post...

Anyway is this what you are talking about?
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OK it may sound stupid but my money are on.......Stone Cold and here is why
1. When Austin first used the 3:16 quote he used words from the bible(like the words used in the videos)
2. Austin said that he has strength in him for one more match(who better than CM Punk who many call the modern day SCSA)
3. He want's to take what is hes(the WWE Championship)
4. Vince wants this to be the best Wrestlemania and in won't get any better with Rock/Cena and Punk/Austin on the card plus the Taker match
 
I didn't think last nights 1/2/12 promo was clear on who it was. There were signs as to who it MIGHT be, but it wasn't clear cut that so-and-so is coming back.

I took the globe to be Jericho only for the fact that it could represent that he has wrestled all over the world.

I think some people look too much into this. If the clock had said 9:05 everyone would say that whoever it is is coming at the top of RAW. They didn't ned to show a clock to let us know WHEN this person is coming...we can already guess when. Any TOP star has almost always come back at the end of the show. Its a ploy to keep you watching till the very end.
 
http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/247137-exclusive-where-will-chris-jericho-be-next-monday-night

I think it's Jericho because he will be there that night of the show. It won't be Sheffield because he already re-debuted in a dark match last night.

Dark matches don't really count as re-debuts... otherwise, Brodus Clay wouldn't have been mentioned for a redebut next week during the Show/Otunga/Ace segment.

As for whether or not it's Jericho, I'm still trying to believe that it's not him because I want some kind of unpredictability. Jericho returning would be rather annoying to me... It's nothing against Jericho, because I love what he can do in the ring, but really I'd rather him return at Royal Rumble than before it... maybe as a surprise entrant.

Also, if it's not Jericho then I'd like to bring up the thought that maybe the promo isn't for just one person. Maybe the promo could be to promote a collection of people, like a new stable. I know that this may sound too TNA like, with the hole "They're here" debacle but really it's not like WWE has anything to lose from it. Worst case scenario, the possible new stable builds up another Wade Barrett, which WWE can use more of.
 
There's something mid-way through the video that pops up and isn't clear, but after pausing it on my TV, it looks like a button that says "push for help." Anyone know the easiest way to post pictures here? I'll link it soon.
 
I reviewed these videos this morning in their entirety and I am convinced it is none other than the Deadman. The aura of the videos aswell as the creepyness just screams Undertaker. Too dark for something like Jericho, even though the end of the final of the promos...."Do you understand" is very Jericho. Though however my money is firmly on it being the Undertaker.
 
It's Matt Hardy and Lita. Team Extreme is back! Matt is taking back what is his; his career as a pro-wrestler that he hugely messed up.

...no, of course it isn't. They were the only male and female ex-wwe employees with a past connection that I could think of.

I'm 80% sure it's Jericho. He seems to be putting some effort into telling people it isn't him. More-so than I would have thought he would. Either he is pissed off at constant speculation, or he's trying to act that way.

He seems to be the clear-cut choice, but I hope that the WWE pull out a huge surprise here. My honest opinion; it's Jericho, and he's working the fans on Twitter.

I won't be dissapointed if it is him, though. Just not as shocked as I want to be.
 
Well I am not completely against it being Chris Jericho, but heres one thing I noticed. He kicked up a fuss about not being in WWE 12. Well, if you create a wrestler on WWE 12 or any game and the wrestlers is inactive or wrestling in TNA you can usually find their pre-set movelist but Chris Jerichos is preset movelist is nowhere to be found on WWE 12, which did make me pressume that his character in WWE 12 will be a future unlockable if he was to return?

My money is still on The Undertaker though, alot of people have mentioned the little girl in the videos...I seem to remember when Taker was coming back as the American Bad Ass they had some eerie videos with young girls in it.

PLUS ......end of the world? Sounds too dark for Jericho. End of the world? Destruction...chaos...dead.....Undertaker.
 
Well I am not completely against it being Chris Jericho, but heres one thing I noticed. He kicked up a fuss about not being in WWE 12. Well, if you create a wrestler on WWE 12 or any game and the wrestlers is inactive or wrestling in TNA you can usually find their pre-set movelist but Chris Jerichos is preset movelist is nowhere to be found on WWE 12, which did make me pressume that his character in WWE 12 will be a future unlockable if he was to return?

My money is still on The Undertaker though, alot of people have mentioned the little girl in the videos...I seem to remember when Taker was coming back as the American Bad Ass they had some eerie videos with young girls in it.

PLUS ......end of the world? Sounds too dark for Jericho. End of the world? Destruction...chaos...dead.....Undertaker.

It's likely that it's Taker, however I'm tired of seeing him return for WM just to disappear for another year. Just me, though.

The one thing that really gets me in the videos is when the boy says "and things will never be the same again" like Jericho ALWAYS says.
 

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