Cryptic "01/02/2012" Video - Chris Jericho Returns- KEEP IT IN HERE! - NO SPAMMING!

[#CenaHeelTurn]

Its a cena heel turn 100 percent, did anyone see the quick subliminal clip of cena during his heel days on this weeks raw? Please tell me I'm not the only one? It also makes sense why the basketball was shown in the video as he always used to wear a basketball jersey in those days. As for the girl I think its stephanie mcmahon, remember cena coming out of her office months back?

I'm glad others are starting to see the clues.

People concerned with the "darkness" of the promo and how that doesn't tie to Cena, remember....Kane is involved in this....He came out, he choke-slammed Cena, and this week he ripped the "Stand Against Hate" shirt off Cena. The darkness of it, comes from Kane's end.

 

[IHW]

A Cena Heel Turn would be nice, but simply wont happen.

Heel Jericho all the way. The darkness relates to the heel Y2J instead of face.

 

[legendkiller420]

I want it to be Chris Jericho but to me the videos that Wwe has shown so far all have a dark undertaker feeling to them. I know there's some things in the videos that one could argue that its Chris but I'm just not buying into it just yet. I would be very disappointed if it is undertaker I like undertaker and all and hope he comes back to keep the streak alive but i DON'T think now is the time for him to return so i can only hope it's Chris Jericho .It would be fresh and entertaining when Jericho is in Wwe rather it be raw or smackdown I don't ever really get bored with him rather he is face or heel he always had me wanting to see more of him. He's great at what he does both on the mic and in the ring. He has always kept me entertained and is one of the greatest of all time no doubt about it.

 

[Scofield]

Don't get me wrong, I love Chris Jericho and will forever be one of my faves in WWE but I ain't holding my breath for this to be his return. Yes he may be just deflecting some people with his Tweets because he obviously isn't going to give it away but if he genuinely doesn't want to return then fuck him. He's contributed enough to the business as it is already.

 

[bratski2192]

I am sold (for now) on it being Chris Jericho. Why?

In one of the promos, one of the lines is, *Things shall never be the same again*. That is close to, & seems to be an oldened way of saying Jericho's line *ever EVER be the same again*.

 

[Neutral Drop]

I've thought from the start it was unfortunately just another return of "Undies"...prepping for WM. But last night, I wondered if it was the return of Kharma. The Shane and Stephanie is a great guess too.

 

[ChaffRKO]

The latest promo asks more questions without answering any.

First of all, these promos are awesome and the anticipation they are generating means it's someone huge. This immediately rules out Skip Sheffield. Let's face it, if this is the Undertaker, I will feel let down so to think it could be Skip Sheffield is surely unrealistic. I think there's less than zero chance of this.

The Undertaker - I actually think this is bigger than him. Problem with taker is that we only ever see him for about 4 weeks out of the year. Yes, his return will have a promo but I think it will be like most other Taker promos in that it will be obviously him. These aren't. Anyway, it started with "It begins", nothing with Taker is beginning, it's near an end.

Cena heel turn - Hmmm, never thought about it before but I fully understand why people might think that but why have a promo for a heel turn? I see the how you could interpret the clues to be him, like the basketball thing which appears in most clips, the way that the boy is stood in the corner is very Cena thuganomics like. Surely the best way to do it would be to surprise everyone without video's to tease it? I just don't see it, sorry.

Kharma - Sorry but am I the only one who can see that this is near enough impossible. In May she announced she was pregnant, so the likelihood is that she's either very heavily pregnant now and ready to give birth soon or, depending how far along she was when she announced it in May, she's just had the baby and is now being a mother to it. Even if she was coming back in the new year, she'll have gone 8 months without any training won't she? Other than a girl being mentioned and the videos being creepy, could possibly suggest it's her?

Brock Lesnar - The day, if it comes, when he returns, I will explode with excitement but I don't think these videos are for him. It makes more sense for it to be him than any of the above mentioned so I won't completely rule it out.

Chris Jericho - If this was a criminal case, he'd be prime suspect. I've got my hopes pinned on it being Jericho to the point where anything else would be a massive let down. All the evidence points to Y2J. His relationship with Stephanie makes her the likely candidate to be the girl. Let's not forget the whole CM Punk Pipebomb episode (like we could!) in summer where he totally ripped apart the whole McMahon family and we saw Vince leave and HHH come in briefly. We saw glimpses of Stephanie then. So my thinking is that a revenge fuelled reunion between the two is her way of getting back at CM Punk, allowing Y2J to "claim what is his" in the form of the "best in the world" title. The line "things will never be the same again" obviously points to him. The flickering Twitter logos in the show are things you could see a Jericho promo being if you go off his debut and his last return. The whole set of videos have religious wording. Another thing to make me think it could be Jericho. The man in white in the "Prophetless" video, could he be wearing a white punk Tshirt?

That's my view but what I do know is that these promos are absolutely gripping and January 2nd cannot come quick enough.

 

[Indian Wrestling Fan]

i for one think this storyline can bind up both nexus 'higher power' storyline and that text one.
Nash said hhh gave him couple of tickets. And i personally think nash was being given orders by some one else.
R truth is about to return , this will bind that 'conspiracy' angle too and portray that r truth was right all along.
It will also be awesome if john laurinaitis becomes face and it turns out he was with hhh all along betraying the 'higher power ' and just acting as 'heel' . Less likely though

 

[shitsngiggles]

Would just like to add this, seeing some people think it could be Shane:

Shane? haha no way is Shane returning:

2010–Present - Chairman and CEO of YOU on Demand Holdings, Inc. (Formerly China Broadband Inc.)

He's got other things to be worried about, he'll never return to the WWE, atleast not as a on-screen part of the show anytime soon.

The girl in the promos is clearly Stephanie McHelmsley. The only 2 people "Inside" wwe that have any real link to her are HHH and Cena.

HHH could very easily go dark and a Cena with a horrifying background could be extremely interesting.

Jericho/Taker are the only other 2 options. Not ruling them out, just saying something relating to Steph M is most likely if the promos are anything to go by.

 

[Garvanko]

With the war in Iraq over, I guess now may be the time for Cena to loosen up his character a bit. A heel turn would be welcome and I would certainly be intrigued as to how he would make it work as people.

 

[somehetero]

It's not Cena.

1) He's just starting a new program with Kane.

2) Kane is a heel, and turning Cena heel would create a heel/heel dynamic that WWE rarely uses. Don't argue that Kane could go face. He's clearly "monster" Kane again, and that character is a BAD bad guy.

3) It would only be a "return" in a very minor sense of the word. Cena would be "returning" to his old ways, which is basically just the definition of a heel turn. Calling it a return is stupid.

4) Running cryptic promos about a return for someone who has never left does not make sense. Don't say "but Look Within!" - that's a clue for those of us trying to solve the riddle. It doesn't mean "it's someone WITHIN WWE!!1".

5) Cena doesn't NEED these promos to have a huge impact with a heel turn. It would be totally wasting the momentum that this viral campaign has created by using it on someone who can UNDOUBTEDLY get over without it.

It's Jericho, Ryback, Undertaker, or a long shot like Shane or Lesnar. I think there's more of a chance that this promo is for Edge and he wasn't has seriously injured as originally thought than the whole thing being for Cena.

 

[stephenjpunk317]

The one thing has to keep being said is I hope this doesn't disappoint. If you keep building it up in your own mind, then it doesn't happen, that would feel like a let down. So I'm trying to keep an open mind about this, and let the chips fall where they will on Jan. 2nd. Hopefully it even happens then. As we have stories change week to week, but with the videos airing as they have, there's no way WWE can back away now.

 

[The Architect of Anarchy]

Thing viral capaign thing is really what we need right now as we've been bored to death from Summerslam all the way upto TLC which was a good PPV.

They've created this guessing game of who it could be which probably boosted ratings for the past 5 weeks. If they keep this momentum, till Wrestlemania, no doubt it'd be worth it!

 

[Kyle9431]

I hope its Jericho.

 

[gwarren]

Someone said Edge, that sounds like an ok idea actually. Edge coming back as a heel and starts to run SmackDown or Raw. It'd make sense too, "end of the world as you know it" would tie in perfectly with a psyco GM. Maybe coming back with Lita?

 

[ThoughtsofRage]

does anyone have the thought of it being the guy who won tough enough finally coming in as Silent Rage

 

[PunkIsGod]

does anyone have the thought of it being the guy who won tough enough finally coming in as Silent Rage

He´s not ready yet to debut on RAw or SD. He should improve a lot in the ring and in the mic before he get´s called to the main roster. IF he´s called someday.

 

[#SWAGATRON]

People that think it's a Cena heel turn PLEASE STOP IT!....LOL That's not even a 5% possibility that would make no sense at all, think everything over before saying that is the "return"....and it's not Vince (Don't think its Steph/Shane). It sounds like the promos are for an actual WRESTLER, and not a backstage 'power' like Johnny Ace or Vince, etc....it's a person who will wrestle, and sounds like its def a heel. I just know no matter who it will be in the end, people will be let down like always, no one is ever happy at most results and that's a fact. HA!

 

[shitsngiggles]

Ok have I found some more clues here?

In the "look within" one, there is:

An Orange Ball
A Globe
A Board
The Girl
The Boy
A winter scene
A Desk
A Chair
There is also something on the ledge of the board, maybe an eraser.

Something there, from the objects makes me think about the Board.

Just a way of stringing them altogether I can think of (probably others)

Orange Ball (Cena related maybe?)
A Globe (best in the world CM Punk?)
A Board (represents the board of directors)
The Girl (Stephanie or Maybe Linda)
The Boy (Linking this to the Chair, the boy (man) and the board) ChairMan of the Board (VKM?)
A winter scene (It happens in January) But the episode is supposed to be in Texas.
A Desk (Relating to the board again most probably)
A Chair (Linked already in ChairMan of the Board)
There is also something on the ledge of the board, maybe an eraser. (Is that there as a sign something is going to be getting rubbed out/removed soon?)

Can't figure out any clues from the swings off the top of my head.

 

[The Perfect Max]

In the most recent video the boy (jericho) is shown being away from his work and the little girl (punk) ruins it - plays on the whole 'best in the world' debate

In other videos she has followed him, looked over his shoulder etc

I've probably read way to much into it but just my thoughts

Ladies and Gentlemen, girls and boys of all ages, this post and its poster deserves a massive round of applause. Everyone!

The way you look at it is so simple, yet no one else sees it that way. Reading it, it makes perfect sense and I believe with that knowledge and understanding of the vignettes, it has to, has to be Jericho.

Another way is to show it could be Jericho is the title of the last vignette. Prophetless. OK, for those lost, keep reading:
- Jericho's countdown to the millennium. Crazy ass fools believed the world would end at the dawning of the new millennium. Don't see my point yet, OK.
- The "second coming" of Y2J. The "second coming" of Christ. Keep reading...
- Prophetless. We are following a false prophet of CM Punk being the best in the world.
All words or meanings link with the bible or Jesus, right? Stupid, I know, but prophesies and second comings and the Armageddon just all link together, and Jericho has used two of the three in his two vignettes promoting his debut/return. I see it this way also.

So: Jericho or I riot with whoelse may also want to riot for the sake of rioting!

 

[JaneyD]

Mordecai!!!

Sorry just wanted to post here, and I really think it's just Y2J. Predictable or not, his return would really benefit the company. And hey, he might even have a new finisher or something like that code breaker he re-debuted with.

 

[The Perfect Max]

IF it does end up being for Jericho, would is the female? Stephanie? He was never aligned with or had any sort of connection with any female. If its Stephanie I could see it going like this...

Stephanie gets Jericho to come back and go after JL and challenge his authority. She is looking to take back what is hers (the WWE) because they (Triple H and her) had control and lost it to JL. Jericho is coming back to take back what is his (RAW) from JL and possibly be the RAW GM.

After Triple H cut the promo on Undertaker being gone, I would actually like to see Stephanie return use Undertaker this way.

I REALLY want Jericho to come back but I dont want these to be for Jericho.

Sorry Vinnie, but he aligned himself with Stephanie around the time of WrestleMania X8 against Triple H. Seen as this would be ten years since then, it could make perfect sense for the two to return together. Just saying, plus, I do agree with you that somehow it wouldn't make sense seen as they broke up and have angered each other time after time since.

 

[Tommy G]

Been thinking about it a bit last night, and it's a long shot.

But what if the return is Batista.

Right now, a lot of people dislike him and he's not even wrestling, so what if all this talk recently about his feelings towards the company is to throw everyone off, because even though he said numerous times how much he dislikes the WWE and how he also would not fit in with the current "PG" era that it is in at the moment, he also said that he would definitely want to come back ending his career with a proper retirement match. I think the intentions with the promos are to throw people off and make people speculate, and if Batista returned not only would majority of the IWC be surprised but also accept him as a heel if that is his direction.

I'm not banking on this happening nor am I willing to put money on it happening, but I know I would be more blown away by his return then Chris Jericho due to the predictability and speculation created from these promos.

P.S Merry Xmas from Aus!

 

[TheJbody]

I have seen that The Wrestling Observer found out that WWE trademarked " Fear my Name". This is relevant because during his WWE dark match promos FCW star Dean Ambrose (aka Jon Moxley) said fear my name. Ambrose has been on the road with WWE along with Seth Rollins (Tyler Black) for the WWE to see what these two can do. This to me indicates that Ambrose will be called up to WWE soon, but how soon. The 1/2/12 promos indicate the "end of the world as we know it" and Ambrose has a kind of sadistic character so I guess it would work.

Here are my two questions.

Is it a possibility that 1/2/12 is the debut of Ambrose/Moxley?

What do you think of Dean Ambrose?

I find it strange that nobody talks about Ambrose so I'm curious to see what you guys think.

I don't really think that Ambrose is behind the 1/2/12 promos but the timing makes me think about it.

I love Dean Ambrose. The first time I saw an Ambrose promo I knew the kid was something special. I haven't felt this way about a wrestler since CM Punk maybe ever. William Regal called him a modern day Piper. Now that I essentially don't agree with that Regal is right about Ambrose in the future.

That's it. Let the discussion begin.

I WANT YOUR INPUT ON AMBROSE. THIS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A 1/2/12 THREAD.

 

[RickRaspberry]

He is a very unique wrestler. Different build, different way of speaking, different way of wrestling. He has all the tools to be something special. Regal's Piper comparison could lead to be true.