JohnJohnson
aka JuanJuanson
Hmmm I'd like to see Chyna. She was going to sign with TNA but she wanted to make another adult film and TNA wasn't ok with that. Therefore I don't think the WWE would. But still nice to see.
Cryptic "01/02/2012" Video - Chris Jericho Returns- KEEP IT IN HERE! - NO SPAMMING!
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theburgundytruth
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I don't think it's Taker. I know him and he has recently cut his hair short. So I'm guessing American bad ass character or something. I'm hoping for someone that I wouldn't expect like Goldberg.
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I'd like to think that the announcers will acknowledge this at some point. How would they not notice a fuzzy Twitter feed when that's half of what they talk about now? Anyway, it's probably Taker. I don't want to get my hopes up for anyone else, so until I see something truly surprising from one of these videos, I'll keep on believing it's Taker. Not that that's a bad thing, though. I always look forward to what Taker involves himself in, especially around Mania time. Whoever he faces, we're sure to get a Match of the Year candidate out of it. I'd like to entertain the notion that it's Jericho, and while I do think he'll return within a year or so, I'm not feeling his vibe in this one. Other possibilities just seem like grasping at straws to me, so I think I'll just wait until January 2 to put too much of an investment into any of this.
ITALIAN NYC
Getting Noticed By Management
Well that promo tonight on raw gave me chills. This is getting good. And no its not Kharma.
Genius_Deadman
Pre-Show Stalwart
it must be Taker. this sort of re-affirms it for me. prophets, prophecy, etc. Taker used this exact language with the Ministry. this would be the only way to turn Taker heel (just random out of no where) and to change his gimmick. the cryptic Biblical stuff and the dark imagery is only something that Taker does. also think about how there were fans who wanted to see HHH win @ Mania, he could use that motivation to turn. if he's not retiring this upcoming Mania, it would make some sense to turn him for a year then have him as a face for his last run.
For me it has to be undertaker, just the words used... they sound like Jericho words, but is Jericho really a prophet who is going to destroy all??
See if thats coming the undertaker it's believable, but it's not really believable coming from a small wrestler like Jericho.
See if thats coming the undertaker it's believable, but it's not really believable coming from a small wrestler like Jericho.
phoenixphreek
Pre-Show Stalwart
the "look within" that was added tonight kind of makes me lean towards vince mcmahon. they've already shown that he is still in the business to some degree, which can't necessarily be said for taker or jericho
Luke Gallows?? It would be completely unexpected. I'm only saying because of the verbage being used, it's very biblical. Gallows was in the S.E.S. with Punk, and could potentially be coming back to cause "the end of the world" as a heel now that Punk is finally a face. He could somehow fued with Punk or gather his own followers to take out Punk, such as former members of the "New Nexus", etc....
Just my 2cents.
Just my 2cents.
I don't know bwhat you or anyone else is seeing or hearing that is making you think that this could possibly be anyone other than chris jericho. Just think about it for a second. Yes, the promo is in black and white, but that doesn't automatically mean the undertaker has anything to do with it. And for anyone who say "the biblical stuff isn't chris jericho's style" that's funny, you must not have read his first book. You know, the one in which he talks about being a christian, and getting tons of. ideas from the bible. Yeah, that book.
Things biblical about chris JERICHO: first off... his name? Hmm... second, his submission finisher. He's called himself the savior in both of his debuts in WWE. Who's that one guy we reference when christians speak of a savior? I think his birthday is coming up in a couple of weeks. Oh yeah, jesus. He's the savior. You know what else he is considered? Do you know where I'm going with this? Anyone?
Jesus Christ, the savior... is considered by most to beeeeeee... A PROPHET!!!
Or its vince mcmahon.
So here's what I've gotten from this posting and the videos so far (I did skip a few that seemed doubled from others, but I got a few ideas that I saw here.):
1. Videos
- Ages of accounts: 43, 22, 28 (Opinion: Nothing to do with the wrestler coming back, as far as I can tell)
- Content of videos:
+Script: Very cryptic and biblical (Op: Taker or Y2J)
+Characters: Little boy and little girl (Op: Not sure, but most likely irrelevant)
+Setting: Classroom, park, river, playground (Op: Again, unsure, and again, most likely irrelevant)
+Other: Basketball, pen, notebook (Op: Not sure about the ball, but I'd like to see what the boy is writing in the notebook. That would probably give bigger clues to what this return could be.)
Now the script said something about a familiar force (not face, listen closer guys) coming to claim what is his. Now this could be a few people and things. Championships, Company, hell, even JR may come back and kick Cole's ass (would be disappointing that it wasn't as big as we hoped, but good enough that we don't have to hear Cole's voice again).
One of the posters here said Y2J and gave a good reason for it. Y= year (2012) 2= day J= month (January). He got that from the first video ("For on the Second Day of 2012").
Right now, creepiness and script of the videos go to Taker. Cryptic and blizzard when they reveal the new URL go to Jericho.
1. Videos
- Ages of accounts: 43, 22, 28 (Opinion: Nothing to do with the wrestler coming back, as far as I can tell)
- Content of videos:
+Script: Very cryptic and biblical (Op: Taker or Y2J)
+Characters: Little boy and little girl (Op: Not sure, but most likely irrelevant)
+Setting: Classroom, park, river, playground (Op: Again, unsure, and again, most likely irrelevant)
+Other: Basketball, pen, notebook (Op: Not sure about the ball, but I'd like to see what the boy is writing in the notebook. That would probably give bigger clues to what this return could be.)
Now the script said something about a familiar force (not face, listen closer guys) coming to claim what is his. Now this could be a few people and things. Championships, Company, hell, even JR may come back and kick Cole's ass (would be disappointing that it wasn't as big as we hoped, but good enough that we don't have to hear Cole's voice again).
One of the posters here said Y2J and gave a good reason for it. Y= year (2012) 2= day J= month (January). He got that from the first video ("For on the Second Day of 2012").
Right now, creepiness and script of the videos go to Taker. Cryptic and blizzard when they reveal the new URL go to Jericho.
LOL you totally did not help solve anything, you just pointed out stuff that are obvious.
Peoples_Champ
Bra & Panties match winner & NEW...
I think we can mostly agree that it's Taker, but other than Mark Henry, who else would he feud with?
Heres what I found out and I'm sure I solved it. Hey guys, they said look within according to the third promo, not within WWE but within the video and within the wrestlers personal life. What you guys see every video? Book, collect, and basket ball right? The Undertaker always wanted to become a professional basketballball player but couldnt do it. Then the Undretaker became a debt collector *as he stated during Jimmy Kemmel's interview*, and here in the first video it states "to claim what is his" and the 2nd video saying, "to claim what others have taken" giving the reference back to what he used to do. Im saying Taker 99%. It could also be both the return of taker and McCool because Taker and McCool both do not like the idea of leaving one partner at home. So let me point out the key to this, you see the setting? Its in a classroom, theres a girl and a boy in all black. Who do they represent? McCool and Taker of course. And now, we all know that McCool used to be a Middle School teacher, and these two kids look like middle schoolers, so thats a hint for the return of McCool with taker and probably even a new character of darkness. I'll say that Taker turns heel along with McCool. Or it could just be another promo for Kane to confuse us, because Kane used to play basketball for college and is also a teacher (books and writing and classroom setting)
Jericho referred to himself as the savior during his debut promo in 1999. And he also did so in 2007. Its only natural he grade to being the prophet. Another thing he called himself is Y2J, which is a play on Y2K... y2k... end of the world... its all right there people.
#thisguy
At no point during your ramblings on did you even come close to something that could be considered a rational thought, and we are all now dumber for having read it. I award you zero points, and may god have mercy on your soul. Undertaker has nothing to claim, and he's too character driven as the deadman to bring in his real life wife. There would be absolutly no point to that, and it would just make people mad. I know it said look within or whatever... but CMON MAN!!!
Hey dude, I don't care about points but you got to give me credit instead of saying that I made you guys dumber for reading it. I actually did research and watched interview videos of taker, kane, and McCool. Dude, compared to other posts, all they said was "uh..I think its Jericho, uh..I think its taker...Huh I think its blah blah blah". There are no evidence, at least I'm speaking my opinion and provided it with facts. Jeeze. And if you were smart enough you would actually do research instead of just assume. And dude, most of WWE's promo videos are SYMBOLIC, let me repeat "SYMBOLIC" that is S Y M B O L I C, meaning they give hints through these Signs. The director is hired purposely to be putting in these symbols into the promos. Sorry you wouldn't know that because you do not have knowledge in filming nor story writing. Its all about symbolism (I'm majoring in cinematography). But hey, I just told my opinion but you didn't like it, go ahead.
Cheers.ITALIAN NYC
Getting Noticed By Management
Sounds like the ministry taker is making a comeback from what Im seeing.
IWChampion
Dark Match Winner
I don't think it's going to be Taker or Y2J. Why? Well one, it's too typical. How many times have we seen this done with those 2. Also if Undertaker has cut his hair again then I don't see him coming back as the deadman. Though it would make sense for Taker because it's almost mania time and he needs to develop a feud with someone.
The person that I would like it to be(but doubtful) is Scott Hall. WWE has recently spent 'more money than on any other superstar' on his rehab. Nash is in the scene now and is feuding with Triple H(the authority figure) and is working with Laurinitis. Nash and Hall as The Outsiders used to destroy everyone. The video is black and white(nwo colors). Fans of all generations are familiar with him. And the biblical content could be booked as his cause for cleaning his life up and making him realize that he was one of the greatest superstars in the business at one point. Idk. Just a hope/thought. But I don't think it's going to be someone painfully obvious.
The person that I would like it to be(but doubtful) is Scott Hall. WWE has recently spent 'more money than on any other superstar' on his rehab. Nash is in the scene now and is feuding with Triple H(the authority figure) and is working with Laurinitis. Nash and Hall as The Outsiders used to destroy everyone. The video is black and white(nwo colors). Fans of all generations are familiar with him. And the biblical content could be booked as his cause for cleaning his life up and making him realize that he was one of the greatest superstars in the business at one point. Idk. Just a hope/thought. But I don't think it's going to be someone painfully obvious.
Hey dude, I don't care about points but you got to give me credit instead of saying that I made you guys dumber for reading it. I actually did research and watched interview videos of taker, kane, and McCool. Dude, compared to other posts, all they said was "uh..I think its Jericho, uh..I think its taker...Huh I think its blah blah blah". There are no evidence, at least I'm speaking my opinion and provided it with facts. Jeeze. And if you were smart enough you would actually do research instead of just assume. And dude, most of WWE's promo videos are SYMBOLIC, let me repeat "SYMBOLIC" that is S Y M B O L I C, meaning they give hints through these Signs. The director is hired purposely to be putting in these symbols into the promos. Sorry you wouldn't know that because you do not have knowledge in filming nor story writing. Its all about symbolism (I'm majoring in cinematography). But hey, I just told my opinion but you didn't like it, go ahead.
I admit I went a little crazy with the billy madison quote and I apologize. I just don't feel that michelle mccool will have anything to do with this. IMO with the whole prep school scenes and the fact that its a little girl and boy point more toward stephanie and shane if you want to take the literal approach. I just think that the biblical references, and the end of the world, and the profet. That's all jericho stuff. And the main thing I'm focused on is the coming to take back what's his. To me that means there could be two or three people other than taker. I just think undertakers return will be more spontanious, maybe at TLC, or after elimination chamber, but not with this.
Thank you. Btw, Stephanie and Shane could also work too, that actually sounds like a great idea! Coming to take over what should be theirs and not HHH or Vince's. Nice. But yea, the reason why I said It would lead to a Heel Taker is that, Taker has been face ever since he's been back as the American Bad Ass biker, I think he just wants to go out (retire) with a boom. Maybe end his career with being a Bad Ass again or his Original Character the Dark and Mischievous being just destroying all. I mean, all the great Hall of Famers had one last run and most of them had the best storylines during their last run so why not Taker too? So what better way to have a Heel Taker than to have McCool be the source of his Heel instead of being Paul Bearer all the time. Just saying from my point of view.
Straight Edge Shark
Dark Match Jobber
Now we know its Karma.
VinnieSunshine
The lord of darkness
With Vince's fascination with social media...I think the videos are playing with everyone.
Last year Sting was away from TNA and we all wanted him to come to WWE and see Sting vs Undertaker. Then the promos started and everyone speculated that it was Sting coming to WWE. They threw in clues to make everyone believe it was him. Then it was revealed to be Undertaker all along.
Within the last few months there has been talk of Jericho coming back to WWE. He teased it, then the report came out that negotiations fell through. Now these videos pop up and everyone starts to speculate that its Jericho, and people even pick out things they THINK lead to Jericho. I've seen Michelle McCool, Stephanie & Shane...and Shaq? Really!?
Last night one finally aired on TV...interrupting a divas package. Yet STILL everyone wants to believe its Jericho, but now Im hearing...Kharma?
Here is what I believe...STOP THE SPECULATION!!!! If history has taught us anything its that speculation will only get our hopes up for what we WANT, only to be let down when its finally revealed and its not what we want.
Its like being a kid on Christmas. You know what you wanted for Christmas adn you see all the presents, you might even see a present that resembles what you want. But when its all said and done, and you've opened all of them...that present that you REALLY WANTED...isn't there. You didn't get it.
Thats how I feel these "It Begins" videos are going to go. Speculation is fun and all that, but you are only setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ill admit that after last night I was thinking that its a diva. Layla is in rehab for her injury, and we dont know how she has progressed. Remember how she was with Michelle McCool?
Last year Sting was away from TNA and we all wanted him to come to WWE and see Sting vs Undertaker. Then the promos started and everyone speculated that it was Sting coming to WWE. They threw in clues to make everyone believe it was him. Then it was revealed to be Undertaker all along.
Within the last few months there has been talk of Jericho coming back to WWE. He teased it, then the report came out that negotiations fell through. Now these videos pop up and everyone starts to speculate that its Jericho, and people even pick out things they THINK lead to Jericho. I've seen Michelle McCool, Stephanie & Shane...and Shaq? Really!?
Last night one finally aired on TV...interrupting a divas package. Yet STILL everyone wants to believe its Jericho, but now Im hearing...Kharma?
Here is what I believe...STOP THE SPECULATION!!!! If history has taught us anything its that speculation will only get our hopes up for what we WANT, only to be let down when its finally revealed and its not what we want.
Its like being a kid on Christmas. You know what you wanted for Christmas adn you see all the presents, you might even see a present that resembles what you want. But when its all said and done, and you've opened all of them...that present that you REALLY WANTED...isn't there. You didn't get it.
Thats how I feel these "It Begins" videos are going to go. Speculation is fun and all that, but you are only setting yourselves up for disappointment. Ill admit that after last night I was thinking that its a diva. Layla is in rehab for her injury, and we dont know how she has progressed. Remember how she was with Michelle McCool?
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