Hey, did anyone notice the cryptic message on WWE as it showed who was trending? It blurred out and I could make out '2012' but the words were blurred also.
Felt very Y2Jish.
Thoughts?
How on earth are creepy children Y2Jish? Neither of his WWE debuts were anything like that. His first was a countdown clock, his first SAVEUS.222 was, while similar to this in theory (viral videos) executed in a different manner with a completely different tone. This it
not Y2Jish in the least. Unless Y2J has a history of magically making his presence felt in WWE by doing things that shouldn't be possible (like making Jack Swagger's twitter box show the address of a youtube channel)
Kane's not a long shot at all. He was only due to be out 3 months, but it's been nearly 6. Plus, the age of the person's account is 43, which also is the age of Kane.
Taker is 45/46, Jericho just turned 41 this month. My guess here is that it is indeed Kane returning for his gold.
Irrelevent, and Kane had a video package earlier in the night.
What about KHARMA. She should be making her return soon shouldnt she. She had all those weird vignettes on her debut. This could be her return.
No, she's on maternity leave. Next stupid statement.
Well, it felt very Undertakerish to me, but It also had a spice of Jericho
I hope it's not Undertaker because WWE makes his return promo's too predictable.
For what it's worth... I've seen pictures on other wrestling websites that have seen Kane growning a beard and hair during his time off (Maybe for a mask return? That may jsut be the Kane mark in me talking)
I think in a few weeks we should have a good idea
Kane: no. Y2J: See Kane. Undertaker is the correct answer. I remember seeing people say the first 2/21/11 package was nothing like Undertaker return video. And obvious or not, people were worked to hell and back by it.
ok this is ALOT simpler than people are making it out to be, it is DEFINITELY not kane, they cut that promo for him with the mask earlier, this is a seperate return, its NOT the undertaker, and its OBVIOUSLY not for kharma, as it said "he"
And it's not 'Taker because?
1. Brock - the darkness of the promo could fit him, and he was a world champ..
UFC contract and what on earth has "darkness" got to do with him?
2. Y2J - there have been rumblings of him returning but his promo WOULDNT be dark
And it's completely not his style.
3. STING - longshot i know but, he was a world champ, and dont forget he is very "churchy" so this could tie into him somehow
TNA contract. Not happening.
4. EDGE- another longshot I KNOW, BUT...BUT...there is a small chance, he was a world champ, and maybe he is in better health than we think he is, i give that a 5% chance
Broken neck. Not happening.
5. Goldberg - the longest of all longshots, but again, former world champ, at one time in WCW the belt was "his" so there could be entitlement, no pun intended.....
Get real.
Saw a comment on this channel by a guy who said 'Y2J is coming back, not to save us, but to destroy us.'
Now while this looks like a Taker vid, if this was a promo for the return of like an ultra evil, manipulative Jericho, would that not be sweet? And he likes countdowns. And there's always a countdown for New Years, and it will be the day after. I don't see Undertaker coming back before the Rumble, honestly. Probably without warning, around Elimination Chamber
What about creepy Undertaker style children, Undertaker style static and a promo package that just screams Undertaker makes you think it's a manipulative Jericho? Occam's Razor says it's 'Taker. It has alll the hallmarks of a 'Taker promo and none of a Jericho one.
I really think it's going to be Jericho...
This reminds me a lot of his "Save Us" promos... And the tone of the video would fit his style...
Dark and scary? I think not.
Undertaker could be possible too, Kane's video aired on RAW so I would take him out of the guessing game...
It's weird this happens right after Jericho said he would never wrestle in WWE again... Sounds like he was just trying to throw people off...
Given what happened last year with everyone hoping for Sting and getting Taker, they might do it again and get people thinking it could be Jericho just to have it be taker again...
Undertaker vs Kane at WM??? Not a big seller for me, but eh...
Would much rather have CM Punk vs Chris Jericho....
I doubt it'll be 'Taker vs Kane again. They beat that horse into the ground already. Taker's going to 'Mania with whoever WWE want him to, and to hell with the logic.
My immediate thought was Undertaker because we've practically been conditioned to think any time a creepy promo comes on it has to be him. But there are a couple reasons why I think it can't be Undertaker and is indeed most likely Jericho.
1) The video said he's coming to "take back what is rightfully his"...What would the Undertaker have to come back to take? He only has the streak now and its not like he lost it or anything. Its already his. The other side of that is what everyone has already said, Jericho would be coming back to take back his "best in the world" moniker.
'Taker's got such a wonderful character that he could want anything. Ravenge (for some reason), sure. A worthy foe? Sure. A title? Sure. If it is 'Taker, he could be after litterally anything and people would buy it. He's the fucking Undertaker. If he wants it, it's his.
2) This seems painfully obvious and I'm surprised no one pointed this out yet. The 2nd day of 2012 is January 2nd. "Y2J." 2nd day, J for January. Too easy. That was part of the whole code thing last time, numbers and what not. I wouldn't be surprised if they went a similar route with his 2nd return.
And all of that is meaningless.
3) We're all overlooking the simple fact that this was a subliminal, youtube only promo. It did not air on TV. If there was ever 1 superstar in the history of the WWE that would use a cryptic, online only ad for a return its Chris Jericho. Since he left he's always said if he does come back he would want to be difference once again. Putting cryptic messages that you have to go online to see the whole thing would be a new way to promote a superstar. That would be perfect for Jericho. Why would they hype the Undertaker's return through an online video? On youtube of all places, not even WWE.com. That doesn't fit the character.
Because Undertaker's never ever made it look like his promos aren't supposed to be a part of the programme... Oh wait that's why there's always static. Let's do a hypothetical run through here if 'Taker wants Kane. Kane doesn't want 'Taker back, so he's preventing all of 'Taker's normal means of delivering creepy promos. 'Taker uses all of his energy to flash the youtube link and uses his powers on Youtube instead. His method is Kayfabe justified.
But the "real" reason is that WWE's working all of us. They know that what they did will generate a lot of interest. They're 100% correct.
Lastly and most importantly 5) Why on earth would the Undertaker come back the first week in January?
Why wouldn't he return in the first week of January? He's 'Taker you don't have to explain his wierd dates.
Last time he didn't come back till the end of February and only wrestled at Mania. This would imply Undertaker would be wrestling at the Royal Rumble AND Elimination Chamber. I could see a return at Rumble as a surprise entrant then he disappears till right before Mania. His body barely made it through Mania last year. Undertaker doesn't need a 3 month buildup at this point in his career, 1 month would do it. 4-5 Raws, quick feud with someone, promote the streak. 3 months would be overkill. This doesn't necessarily prove its Jericho but it damn sure strengthens the idea that it's NOT Undertaker.
Perhaps WWE want his return and possibly final match at Wrestlemania to have a story behind them? I hated the build to HHH/Taker, perhaps some of the higherups agreed and decided to make the match have more meaning than "these guys are awesome, therefore you should pay to see them even though you have no emotional connection to the match and thus no other reason to want to see them fight". 'Taker can't put on an awesome match like he used to so now they seem to be doing the opposite. Making people care about the match, rather than relying in the awesomeitude of two 40+ yearolds.
Oh by the way, it's not Kane. Just no. They wouldn't air 1 promo showing his face and mask then have a totally different one in a cryptic form. That makes no sense.
Agreed
I was going to say "what about Raven?", but somebody beat me to it.
Because why would WWE be interested in Raven? He blackballed himself by suing them.
Honestly though, I think it is Jericho. The quote from the clip sounded really Bibely (its a word now). So I looked up on the Google and it is a variation of Isaiah 26:20 which is talking about the end of days (Y2J) and the Lord (Lord=Savior=Save Us).
'And when they heard of the resurrection dead, some mocked. But others said "we will hear you again about this"' Acts 17:12 a passage quoted in one of 'Taker's previous returns (to go kill Randy Orton).
That and I will be disappoint if it is Taker. He just needs to come back with a gong.
Yeah, because 'Taker's ususlly so low key.
Before watching the video, seeing "It Begins 2012", I thought... WWE Network. But watching the video, I call Jericho. It could be Undertaker, but seeing the video with the mask and the fire and everything, I still think that is him. It looks like him as well. I guess we're just gonna have to sit back, wait & see.
So because Kane is returning (that's who was in the video) it's Jericho?
Mankind = the tone of the promos and the "Mrs Foley's Little Boy" imagery of the promo.
Why wouls Foley need a vignette? He's already returned.
[qupte]but the more I think of it, this does fit a Jericho return... He comes back as more of a "cult leader" type, a manager who will only wrestle in the blow off match. the Cult of Jericho vs The Cult of Personality fits real well. Of them all I want it to be this one cos it'll be a hell of a mania match.[/QUOTE]
Or alternatively it'll be 'Taker, like it always is in these situations.
I'd say Jericho. Yes, the video's creepiness and gesture scream undertaker, but look at what the video is saying:
Jericho's debut was based on the Y2K phenomena, saying the world would end in 2000. That's where he got the name Y2J.
The video says "On the second day of 2012 a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his"
Y2K literally means Year 2000. It would have been called that regardless of whether or not there was a "millenium bug". And seeing as the world is going to end on the 20th December 2012 if Jericho's return is to do with that he'd return closer to the end of the year.
"And it will be the end of the world as you now it"
2012 is a year the world is predicted to end, just like 2000, just like Y2K, where he got the name Y2J, in which the J stands for Jericho, where he got his name from and made his debut, and now he's returning.
See what I'm getting a here?
No. It appears to be some fine ass bullshit though.
*EDIT* I saw this in a youtube comment, and am pasting it. I feel as if it's just crazy enough to be right.
Every clue leads to Jericho. The youtube page of the vid is full of clues like :
What clues? Jericho himself admitted that we saw "clues" in the first SAVEUS.222 video that weren't there (Hint: There weren't any clues in the first SAVEUS video). If something's "crazy enough to be right" it usually means it's crazy enough to be crazy.
"Huh...1/2/12
First off, 12 times 2 equals 24, then 24 plus 1 equals 25. And the 25th letter of the alphabet is Y.
1,100 times 6 divided by 300 plus 3 equals 26 as well. You can do that to any number.
Because clearly WWE planned a big return for that show because it happened to make up a nickname that expired a gimmick ago, rather than because it's the first Raw of 2012.
Then lastly, 12 minus 2 equals 10. And 10 times 1 equals 10. And J is the 10th letter of the alphabet.
23 plus 23 plus (2 times 3) equals 51 as in
Area 51 Shiiii
I'll just let that sink in."
I'm going to wash it off. That amount of stupidity might be dangerous.
"[Y]outube, [2]nd, [J]anuary"
Yeah, that screams of "THE SMOKE WAS IN THE SHAPE OF A SCORPION!"