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Cryptic "01/02/2012" Video - Chris Jericho Returns- KEEP IT IN HERE! - NO SPAMMING!

@VoiceofReason3:16,

No, I am not Shane's personal secretary, but I do have common sense. Shane's responsibilities in the business world will not allow him to participate in a consistent WWE storyline. And whoever they are promoting to be returning is not coming back for a one-time appearance, you can take that to the bank. So, you don't need to exert too much thought to figure out that Shane is just not a logical choice. Now, if it comes to light that Shane has stepped down from his current positions, then that changes things. I have neither seen nor heard of any such news though.

As for this whole "she" thing, I personally don't think it is even in reference to a person. I think it's probably a metaphor for a thing or a concept. If it has to be a person, then I don't know who it is. I threw the Stephanie thing out there just for the hell of it, but your guess is as good as mine when it comes to the actual identity.

Oh, and Triple H didn't lose his power. Yes, Vince McMahon and the "family" removed him from his duties as acting GM of RAW, making John Laurinaitis the interim GM in the process, but Triple H is still the COO. That was never taken from him and that's the position that really matters. That is why Triple H has said to Laurinaitis on several occasions that he is still his boss. So, the company is still in the hands of the family, meaning there is nothing for Shane, or Stephanie for that matter, to take back.
 
These videos have me thrown it points to Jericho coming back, but why would he come back for a couple of months and leave again as Fozzy have said they touring england in the summer because of the festivals.
 
The " board of directors " removed him not the mcmahon family , which is compromised of stephanie and linda mcmahon( if we really want to get technical ) and then a majority of non family members ( agin we are way to technical at this point ) but regardless it wasnt his own family in law that removed him, vince broke the news to him but as per storyline probably had no say in it .

And yes the she may be hypothetical , but regardless and we could be fighting it and be none of the people we are talking about
 
Here is another hypothetical to throw out there....

How has TNA been doing?

Maybe it IS STING....and the SHE is Dixie Carter...maybe the "End of the world" is signifying TNA "taking over" or something of that nature. Did Vince posssibly buy out TNA silently and it goes into affect 1/1/2012, which would lend itself to making the announcement public on 1/2/2012 with Sting coming to Raw?

Interesting....

Sidenote: I know next to nothing about TNA or how the competition is going vs. WWE, nor do I know what Vince might be thinking about if TNA is a threat. I'm just throwing it out there.
 
@VoiceofReason3:16,
Oh, and Triple H didn't lose his power. Yes, Vince McMahon and the "family" removed him from his duties as acting GM of RAW, making John Laurinaitis the interim GM in the process, but Triple H is still the COO. That was never taken from him and that's the position that really matters. That is why Triple H has said to Laurinaitis on several occasions that he is still his boss. So, the company is still in the hands of the family, meaning there is nothing for Shane, or Stephanie for that matter, to take back.

Holy crap nice hint man, from what I just read, I just realized that the video said something like "To take back everything that they have taken away from him" and this time hes going to come back and take it all and destroy everything. Also this time, hes under control of "Her" which can only conclude!!! VINCENT KENNEDY MCMAHON!! He was stripped of his power and left out of his own creation, so this time hes back and hes the only who can save it or destroy it. And this time, hes not coming alone, hes coming with none other than LINDA MCMAHON! It is the end of the world as we know it. Well this is what I just came up with after reading your post but other wise I'm still sticking with McCool and Taker.
 
I've heard some pretty shit ideas as to who this could be; Edge and Lita being the absolute shittiest. Jericho seems like a good pick but it wouldn't be the first time we were wrong about a Jericho return. The videos keep hinting at "look within". That can be taken in so many directions. First being look within the currently active WWE roster. But why hype the shit out of someone who is already there? "Take back what is his" certainly leads me to believe it could be Vince McMahon. I would have no problem whatsoever if Vince returned to take his WWE back to it's former glory. However, the videos have shown me a dark yet somehow erie feeling. Provided Undertaker is healthy enough to return, he's a fine pick for these strange videos. With that said, I'm sticking with Jericho simply because he keeps telling us he has no current plans to return. It seems to me he's working everyone here. Jericho will come back, and take what is rightfully his; the title of Best in the World. In all honesty, I have no clue. The wait is killing me as I'm pretty sure the return will be somewhat huge.
 
My two cents. (or penny's as I'm English)

She - the reference she is too the WWE as an entity like you would name a car or boat.
Y2J - Been mentioned before that this it hidden in the day plus the 2nd January.
Jericho - said he would not wrestle again for WWE, how about a 'permanent' general manager for RAW, Jonny Ace is just the interim.

More than likely rubbish, but that's my idea.
 
Like most people that it's jericho. But I am more excited about Kane and his return. The idea of jericho coming back is great and all, the taker coming back is stale like the end of bread. But Kane, back in the mask, THAT'S alot more fresh.

Jericho's last return began pretty bad, and he didn't get his mojo back until he went heel, which he is ALWAYS better as, so lets hope if it is him, he comes back as a heel from the beginning.
 
but would much rather just see jericho come back and codebreak everyone. twice.
yes.
but seriously..

a power is coming to punish the meek for their inequity.
so.. a power is coming to punish someone/people who is/are following the rules, lacking in excitement, dull for their unfairness or bias ways. (lauranitis?)

a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his.

so basically, it has to be someone very familiar and a single male. (vince?)
to take back something that is his. (the wwe as a whole?)
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second
the power cometh is a theif in the night, to claim what others have taken
"power" - metaphorically (mcmahon?)
others have taken - the power of wwe? (mcmahon.)

those who are unjust, destruction will come upon them and they will not escape

so whoever is being unfaithful/dishonest will be destroyed. (lauranitis texting all the time?)
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lookwithin
first of all the title is not as obvious as the others, look within?
look within the wwe? not too sure.

the deception the weak have perpetrated will be castigated
the "weak" have decieved, lied to someone and are going to be punished/reprimanded in order to correct things.
which makes lauranitis come into my head again. maybe vince or someone of that nature?

the prophet will emerge and destroy the weak

"prophet" is a religious term, too religious for someone like jericho, and undertaker seems to be on the opposite side of that?
maybe mcmahonism?;)
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control
maybe taking back control of the wwe?
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i basically just went the one route forgetting jericho and taker and whatnot. the first three videos all line up but the fourth one with the girl puzzles me.

i still think it has to do with lauranitis, texting and shit..

maybe not vince but it has to do with power, deception, unfatihful, being punished for their biased ways. if someone else can explain to me how that would fit in with jericho or taker? let me know!
 
This could really be anything. WWE loves to swerve us fans. They WANT us to be sitting here tearing that video apart with analysis trying to figure out who it is promoting. There's no telling who it is. It could be The Undertaker, Chris Jericho, Ryback, or even Mike Adamle for all we know. Ok just kidding about Adamle. He was horrible.

I have a feeling it will be either Undertaker or Jericho. Remember the video from last year that we all thought and hoped would be Sting? It turned out to just be The Undertaker in the end. They may be going a similar path here by trying to make us think it's Jericho or someone else, only for Taker to make his return. I wouldn't be upset if it was for Taker although I do hope it's Jericho instead.

There's pretty good odds of it being Jericho. This seems like something he would do. It fits right in with things he's done in the past such as the countdown or that whole "save_us.y2j" thing. Punk is calling himself "The best in the world" and one of Jericho's favorite lines was calling himself "The best in the world at what I do". It's a perfect way for him to come back because he could try to reclaim what's his from Punk, being "the best in the world". He will probably come back as a darker character, given the feel of the videos. I've liked all of his characters so a new one wouldn't bother me. It would actually be refreshing instead.

Whether it's Jericho, The Undertaker, or someone else.... I look forward to finding out what this video is all about when it comes time to find out in January. WWE is doing a great job of hyping this thing. The longer this drags on the more curious we as fans will be to finally see the revealed identity behind the cryptic video.
 
yes.
but seriously..

a power is coming to punish the meek for their inequity.
so.. a power is coming to punish someone/people who is/are following the rules, lacking in excitement, dull for their unfairness or bias ways. (lauranitis?)

a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his.

so basically, it has to be someone very familiar and a single male. (vince?)
to take back something that is his. (the wwe as a whole?)
-------------------------------------------------------------

second
the power cometh is a theif in the night, to claim what others have taken
"power" - metaphorically (mcmahon?)
others have taken - the power of wwe? (mcmahon.)

those who are unjust, destruction will come upon them and they will not escape

so whoever is being unfaithful/dishonest will be destroyed. (lauranitis texting all the time?)
------------------------------------------------------------

lookwithin
first of all the title is not as obvious as the others, look within?
look within the wwe? not too sure.

the deception the weak have perpetrated will be castigated
the "weak" have decieved, lied to someone and are going to be punished/reprimanded in order to correct things.
which makes lauranitis come into my head again. maybe vince or someone of that nature?

the prophet will emerge and destroy the weak

"prophet" is a religious term, too religious for someone like jericho, and undertaker seems to be on the opposite side of that?
maybe mcmahonism?;)
----------------------------------------------------------

control
maybe taking back control of the wwe?
---------------------------------------------------------------------

i basically just went the one route forgetting jericho and taker and whatnot. the first three videos all line up but the fourth one with the girl puzzles me.

i still think it has to do with lauranitis, texting and shit..

maybe not vince but it has to do with power, deception, unfatihful, being punished for their biased ways. if someone else can explain to me how that would fit in with jericho or taker? let me know!


All the quotes are religious references...(google them) Many of them refer to the 'Lord' returning, which screams Taker. But the one quote that makes me feel as though it is Jericho is the "it will be the end of the world as you know it" Punk claims he's the best in the world, Jericho will rightfully take that title back.
 
Just something interesting I read watching the promo on youtube. One user thought it was Vince, Shane and Steph coming back to take back the WWE and turning it back into TV-14. He thought it would suit considering the WWE was getting their own station. I'm still skeptical. Although I would love an Attitude Era 2.0, I just don't see it happening.

Another was something many already saw as a code. Year (Y) 2nd (2) January (J). I'd love to see Jericho come back and just give Raw...hell the WWE...less of a stale product. I'm a kid of the attitude era, so the majority of the time I'm switching from Raw to Two and a Half Men or Conan. I'd love to just keep the remote on one channel instead of irritating myself.
 
So everyone is sure it isn't Sting and the she isn't Dixie Carter? I get the fact that people don't think its possible, but I think its at least something to consider.

I mean, does it HAVE to be Jericho, UT, McMahon family, or a current WWE star?

It's a familiar force, which could be anyone, or any GROUP. Maybe it's the former Nexus members coming back?
 
to be honest it has to be someone within the company my money has to be on undertaker when nash returned and booker t we all knew about it when y2j made both his returns we all knew it was him you gotta be dumb if u think its not taker if i had to go with another person maybe vince highly doubt it
 
Honestly, I would like the idea of seeing a dark and evil Michelle McCool along with taker, but for me it will be dissapointing. Say whatever you want, the promo is not in Taker's style for me ! And I'll tell you why I think that. Forget about the thing "it's too early, he will get injured" etc. By the storyline, all promos are NOT "aired" by the wwe. It's like a computer attack from somewhere, an invasion etc. And King and Cole are not saying anything about it, so that means that the promos can be seen only on tv, not live at the arena (my opinion). That means that the promo is for someone who is not mentioned in the wwe. Undertaker was mentioned by HHH, and also was seen on one of the Kane's promos ! For me that's enough evidence, that Taker is out of the picture here. Now about Shane and Steph. The idea is good, but like someone else said, Shae is too busy running companies and stuff. Of course it's not impossible for him to join in the wrestling buisness again. I don't know if he has enough time for this, but only Shane knows, not me, not you. For now I don't think that Shane is coming back, but he is still in the game of the promo. Now about Steph. I'm nearly 100% sure that the "she" is for her. It's the most logical thing because there is no other woman in the wwe that connects with the style of the promo. Yes, Stephanie is not that "dark and creepy", but still ! And now here comes Chris Jericho. Why some of you think that it's unlogical to see a connection between Y2J and Steph ?!?!?!?!? I mean, you have to be STUPID to say that ! Chris and Stephanie always had a great chemistry in storylines etc. Also they were even a team when Jericho was the undisputed champion !!! Last time when both were on the show, they were enemies, but the storyline here must turn out to something like that: Stephanie wants to take control on something, Y2J wants to be the best in the world again. So they may not like each other, but they share the same goal and that's why they could return together. Maybe Stephanie knows that in her case Jericho would be the perfect man for the job (the job might be connected with CM Punk or something else, I'm not sure). Still, that's just my opinion. To be honest, I'm not so sure about the thing with Steph, but for me it's the most logilcal thing ! Now, an interesting theory that someone posted on youtube. Return of Matt Hardy, the "she" is Lita. Yeah, it seems like an original idea, but for me it's impossible because: 1st - Matt is in rehab and he is not leaving soon; 2nd - such a big hype for Matt ?!? I know, he is great but cmon ! Another thing that it's unlikely to happen - return of Edge. Not his style, way too big hype etc. But actually in those lame theories there is one thing that makes some sence. And it's Lita ! Honestly, I don't think it's her, but there is a 3% chance that the promos are related with her. The girl on the promo is red-haired (I think, I'm not sure really), Lita was on RAW on the same night when the boy in the promo said the big things about the "she". Again, 3% to be Lita, 97% for Stephanie ! We will have to wait until next monday when we will see some bigger clue I think. And I'm REALLY REALLY sorry for my bad english !!!
 
You know one point nobody talks about here as being a clue is Jericho not being in WWE12. I think this may be a big point to look at. Is there a reason behind this? I believe there is , i believe WWE are trying to not keep Jericho in the WWE Universe's minds so that when he does come back it can be a big shock. Think about it, this could add Jericho's frustation with the WWE as part of the storyline. Either its this or it could be at the total other end of the spectrum where Jericho is completely finished with WWE and probably his wrestling career as a whole.
 
Would personally love if it's Undertaker returning with a dark Michelle McCool. let's face it. Undertaker doesn't have much time left wrestling. One final reboot of his character could be pretty interesting, and more Michelle McCool (provided it's not more Laycool garbage) is never a bad thing.
 
All the quotes are religious references...(google them) Many of them refer to the 'Lord' returning, which screams Taker. But the one quote that makes me feel as though it is Jericho is the "it will be the end of the world as you know it" Punk claims he's the best in the world, Jericho will rightfully take that title back.

None of them refer to a "Lord" returning. There is nothing in any of these promos that "screams Undertaker." These promos are the exact opposite of every single Undertaker promo ever.

So everyone is sure it isn't Sting and the she isn't Dixie Carter? I get the fact that people don't think its possible, but I think its at least something to consider.

I mean, does it HAVE to be Jericho, UT, McMahon family, or a current WWE star?

No, it's not Sting or Dixie Carter, that is literally ******ed. It has to be Jericho, because it is Jericho, because every single promo screams "Jericho" and every single dirtsheet says it's Jericho.

I honestly don't think its Jericho

Then pay better attention.

Say whatever you want, the promo is not in Taker's style for me !

It's not just you, bro. The promos aren't in any kind of Undertaker promo style that we've seen for the past 20 years.

Of course it's not impossible for him to join in the wrestling buisness again.

It kind of is, with the jobs he's doing. He runs two overseas companies now & he doesn't want to be involved with the wrestling business. That's why he left it.
 
So, the latest video where it refers to a female, who would that refer to if these videos are for Jericho? The one female I connect with Jericho more than most is Stephanie, or maybe Trish. It could just be a red herring of course but it's got me curious.

If the vid's are for Taker, I'm not sure I'd want to see McCool with him. I know they are married, but in the WWE Universe, Taker is a supernatural loner (for the most part) and McCool was last seen with Layla behaving like a bratty snobby teen. Continuity in wrestling doesn't always happen, but it would seem like a big leap for McCool's character.
 
It is surely Chris Jericho. Reasons-

a familiar force shall arrive to claim what is his.
Of course he is familiar force. To claim what is his means "The best in the world" thing. Chris Jericho used the line "I am the best in the world in what I do". Now Punk is using "The best in the world". So Y2J is gonna come and take it from Punk.
[But he will not be successful cause CM Punk is THE Best Wrestler In The World.]

the power cometh is a theif in the night, to claim what others have taken
The same thing. He means Punk stole his 'The Best In The World' title from him.

I liked Y2J and surely will like him if this is him. Though my favorite is CM Punk.
Wrestlemania 28 - WWE Championship Title match
CM Punk vs Chris Jericho
(The winner will be eligible to use "The Best of The World" tag line).
 
"No, it's not Sting or Dixie Carter, that is literally ******ed."

Explain please. Why do you think this is literally ******ed? Aside from your obvious bias towards the fact that it is Jericho and it seems nothing will change your mind on that fact.

But regardless of that debate, why do you think it is ******ed that Sting could be the person coming on 1/2/12?
 
Here's what I think:

I think that it is not Shane and Stephanie, but Vince and Stephanie.

In the Attitude Era, Vince was the "Higher Power", that was in control if the Undertaker when he was the leader of the Ministry of Darkness. The "It Begins" videos constantly refer to a "power that comes".

In the video, the boy is writing down the proohecy, the girl is looking over his shoulder. Possibly symbolizing Stephanie taking notes from her father.

Vince was removed from power- sent to corner if you will. The girl has a ball that the ball now. Possibly symbolizing Stephanie in that she studied Vince and can now take the "ball and run with it?"

Add to this other reports the Del Rio got cussed out a while ago because he stupidly mentioned Vince's name in a promo, and Vince didn't want himself mentioned on TV at all so that when he came back it would be a complete shock.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here. Everyone seems to think that it is Jericho, but he never seemed like a "power" of any sort to me. Certainly not one that can bring about a change like the one the video describes.

I'm probably wrong, seeing as there was a report that a link to the supposed Twitter account of the video mentioned Rahaab from
the Bible- a prostitute that lived in the city of Jericho.
 
Add to this other reports the Del Rio got cussed out a while ago because he stupidly mentioned Vince's name in a promo, and Vince didn't want himself mentioned on TV at all so that when he came back it would be a complete shock.

I'm just playing Devil's Advocate here. Everyone seems to think that it is Jericho, but he never seemed like a "power" of any sort to me. Certainly not one that can bring about a change like the one the video describes.

I'm probably wrong, seeing as there was a report that a link to the supposed Twitter account of the video mentioned Rahaab from
the Bible- a prostitute that lived in the city of Jericho.

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And two weeks after Del Rio said his name, Vince appeared on RAW as seen above, still recognized as the Chairman. Where would be the shock in Vince McMahon, who owns the company in the first place a month and a half after he last appeared? None, exactly.

However the word in the quote which I've bolded sums up who the message is signalling, it is the Jericho.
 
I think its jericho. Because of the way they worded the video. They said he would be coming back to claim what is rightfully his. The wwe championship, and being the best in the world at what he does. That sets up a feud for him and punk, which will be golden. I can't see that meaning undertaker. Undertaker has nothing left to claim. Well, other than more souls. Actually, he could be coming back to claim his revenge on wade barrett for srewing him over. And the whole thief thing could be how wade sort of stole the world championship from him by costing him his match. Damn, now im split on who it is. Taker or Jericho. They could both very well be the one. I would personally like to see jericho though.
 

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