CM Punk finally speaks about leaving WWE

I enjoyed the interview to be honest and he does have some point and of course he sounds bitter. I will not judge him as he did something he felt he needed to do and that takes guts and as a guy that's been trying to get open doors as far as employment goes, I really take my hat off to someone like him.

He may not be the best of persons, but fuck each and everyone of us - eg: KB is constantly an asshole to people, yet he's seen as a god of this forum, I mean, he's probably an asshole to people who are asshole to him too, but he is an asshole too and that's not a fucking problem. Be an asshole dude.

I'll still be watching professional wrestling (WWE of course) and I just hope the guy gets to be happy. If he returns, fine! If he doesn't, well, thanks for putting your body on the line and I hope the money you got from it, is good enough.
 
So basically, in the end, Punk acted like a baby because he wasn't made the #1 guy. That doesn't bother me, I just hope he can get over that and have one more run.

WWE will take him back, and eventually, he'll be back.
 
I should clarify - I do think Punk had some legitimate issues. Working sick, constantly losing, and of course the PPV pay structure/WWE network deal. The wrestlers should know how that's going to work.
 
braveh said:
And sure ryback is probably on steroids but isnt colt cabana on steroids as well?
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Yes, pudgy Colt Cabana is on steroids, cause his veins are popping out and his arms are abnormally large, of course, how could anyone have missed that?

Alastor said:
Misdiagnosis do occur. That's why patients often go for 2nd or multiple opinions if the treatment isn't effective. That' doesn't mean the doctor has no idea what he's doing.
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The guy is hired by WWE to deal with WWE employees health issues on the road. Chris Jericho was actually the one who fought for them to take a doctor on the road because so many of the wrestlers would get hurt but not have time to go to a doctor because of their schedules so they'd never find out how badly hurt they were. There's no excuse for what that cunt of a doctor did, Punk had a staph infection - a fucking staph infection - he could have died. He had concussions and they were giving him zepacs! His issues weren't being dealt with because, "you have to wrestle tonight".

The BIGGEST insight into all of this is that WWE who paints this picture that all of their medical perspectives towards their talent have improved hasn't changed all that much since Chris Benoit. They had a guy with multiple concussions, a leg injury that had been operated on less than six months prior, who had a rib broken by Ryback, who was suffering from sleep deprivation and was miserable and had a staph infection, was being told to work, so much so that he went to the point of "trying to kill myself" when working The Undertaker just so he could take some time off after, and even when he got that time off they brought him back two months later when he hadn't healed up yet!

I've seen doctors on Wreddit reply in comment sections about how if WWE doesn't fire Dr. Chris Amann then they're employing a negligent doctor who is being paid to deal with athletes working 300 days a year who obviously doesn't have a clue what stress their bodies are going through.
 
Big Nick Dudley said:
I should clarify - I do think Punk had some legitimate issues. Working sick, constantly losing, and of course the PPV pay structure/WWE network deal. The wrestlers should know how that's going to work.
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And this is why wrestlers by and large need a unioAHAHAHAHAHA oh God, I can't finish that without laughing.

Wrestling needs a union. It will never have a union.
 
At the end of the day, Punk needed a win against a huge star.. and im not talking about Cena because everyone beats Cena (literally everyone, like Ambrose, Del Rio, even Miz).. beating someone of the caliber of HHH, Brock, Rock, or Taker would be massive it would boost him to a mega draw. And he jobbed to all of these part timers. It was bullshit how they didn't even book him as a credible threat to the streak. He lost to The Rock twice, then to Cena, then to Kane all on the road to wrestlemania. why would casuals think he had a chance against Taker?
 
Big Nick Dudley said:
I should clarify - I do think Punk had some legitimate issues. Working sick, constantly losing, and of course the PPV pay structure/WWE network deal. The wrestlers should know how that's going to work.
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He did own Cena's whole world for a bit, though.
 
Also, Punk's logic can be applied to Bray Wyatt and Dean Ambrose.. like Punk said, in the eyes of a casual viewer, you can't be elevated to main event status by simply wrestling great matches and having great promos.. you need wins to elevate yourself. people on this forum seem to underestimate the power of wins and losses.. look at Wyatt and ambrose. wyatt got his momentum destroyed by cena, and ambrose lost 3 times in a row to Rollins with no payback, now theyre both stuck in the mid card.
 
This was a very awesome interview. I loved how he told his side and how wwe operate and do business with their talent.


I also loved how he buried hhh and vince, it's very disturbing to hear how they treat people sometimes. Punk is right, he doesn't need them they need him. Major props for giving HHH a big FU and not wanting to work with him at mania.

Just all around great interview.
 
Dirty Dutch Oven said:
Punk's argument has a few holes, but by and large, he does one have point, that seems to be pretty hard to argue.

Punk, by and large, was WWE's most consistent performer for three straight years, from 2011-2014. And at the end of the day, he was never seen as a guy like Cena, or Orton.

Think about it... Why wasn't Punk paid as much for the Taker match as much as Taker? (Yes, I realize that fairly speculative to say he wasn't, but honestly, do you doubt it?) Because, to some extent, WWE didn't think he was responsible for drawing the audience. At least, not as much as Trips, Brock, and the like.

And maybe he isn't.... But really, how much of that is Punk's fault? Did he ever get the chance to really prove he was the draw? His performance was definitely worthy of being a top guy, but because WWE never saw him as a top guy, the feeling was that he couldn't draw. It's a self fulfilling prophecy; this guy isn't a draw, so we won't give him a chance to draw. How many people have fallen victim to this line of thinking in WWE, even now? Ambrose? Ziggler? Wyatt?

Punk's point, it seems, was that he was frustrated that, no matter what he did, he was never going to be the guy. Because of the WWE's logic, if you aren't already a draw, you'll never be one. In spite of this idea that you need to grab the brass ring, there's really no such thing. WWE is going to go with Roman Reigns to beat Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania, unless we have the 2014 Royal Rumble again, and someone else gets the push, because WWE's hand was forced into it.
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The fact that out of the 6 wrestlers in Wrestlemania 29's 3 main matches, he was the only one to not get that big pay is pretty low on their part. He was the most hard working at the time. He was put with these bigger names even after asking for time off. His Wrestlemania bonus was still underwhelming in comparison to his contemporaries for this show. That would piss me off too. That was just the start of a year of health issues for Punk. Half of them were his own doing, but staph infection was a major red flag. Not to mention WWE putting their champion to work fresh off surgery. I get that would bring concerns of him being stripped of the title.
 
I can't wait till somewhere in the next month where Reigns returns and there's an instantly more likeable, attractive, charismatic, and all around safer powerhouse that can be pushed and Ryback is left in midcard hell like he should have stayed in 2012.
 
The Dragon Saga
Listen to cabanas voice. Does it have something in common with ryback, malenko, stallone?

Josh barnett was on steroids, edge was too....everyone doesnt end up looking like goldberg and ryback. That doesnt mean they re innocent
 
You can't believe everything you hear on podcasts, sure. I mean that Cena/Nexus story from the Y2J/Edge podcast gets regurgitated all the time and is often mis-quoted or misunderstood.

For what it's worth, except from just after the Rumble, I reckon Bryan was always meant to headline Mania. Indeed, I'm pretty sure Mick Foley said HHH texted him the night of the Rumble which effectively confirmed this. Then Punk says the night after when shit went down he was pissed Bryan wasn't getting his chance. Hmmm

Firing him on his wedding day is just a dick move. I want to believe it's a coincidence but it's pretty hard to.

Punk will always have a chip on his shoulder. That's what made him successful. The fact that this wasn't a balanced interview just pissed me off. As if he would be a millionaire; on Talking Dead and writing for Marvel if he was working for ROH or New Japan. I mean, seriously?
 
Every young boy dreams of one day being a grown man on his wedding day and marrying a twelve year old girl without being fired at the same time.

I think this is hilarious. Hopefully they will sue him the day of the birth of his first child.
 
I've listened to the podcast. Probably one of the best podcast I've ever heard.
I always supported punk, no matter.
I'm 100% agreed with everything with punk said. He has no reason to lie. He doesn't wanna wrestle no more. He is finally happy. He has money, he is doing different things and he is happy. He has nothing to lose or gain from this podcast.
Punk came off as professional and truthfully.
It just shows how bad and unprofessional wwe is. And how bad their work environment is. And how they treat their wrestlers like shit.
I always knew that wwe doesn't care about the wrestlers. They only care about their own image to the public. Thats corporate for you.
CM punk got fired and suspended. He didnt quit. Didn't know that. So people can shut up now about him quiting.
HHH and vince are fucking scumbags
It amazes me how unprofessional wwe is. They take shots at him at every change they get about quitting. But punk hasn't badmouthed them at all or talked to anyone while they are doing that.
Yet people try to justify everything wwe does including fucked up things (Bunch of mindless wwe marks.). There seems to be alot of them on this forum.

I can see why people don't wanna work for wwe.
I can see why people say don't work for the wrestling business.
Its dangerous and unsafe.

I'm glad punk is happy with is his life. He seems to be doing better.

I can't believe he wrestled hurt and on near death bed.
Goes to show you wwe doesnt give a shit about their talent. only themselves
Punk should of mainevented wrestlemania at least once. IJS



Punk did make a great point about the main eventing.
Your not in the main event, if your not the final match.
The main event is usually the final match on the show.
 
MCMG said:
You can't believe everything you hear on podcasts, sure. I mean that Cena/Nexus story from the Y2J/Edge podcast gets regurgitated all the time and is often mis-quoted or misunderstood.

For what it's worth, except from just after the Rumble, I reckon Bryan was always meant to headline Mania. Indeed, I'm pretty sure Mick Foley said HHH texted him the night of the Rumble which effectively confirmed this. Then Punk says the night after when shit went down he was pissed Bryan wasn't getting his chance. Hmmm

Firing him on his wedding day is just a dick move. I want to believe it's a coincidence but it's pretty hard to.

Punk will always have a chip on his shoulder. That's what made him successful. The fact that this wasn't a balanced interview just pissed me off. As if he would be a millionaire; on Talking Dead and writing for Marvel if he was working for ROH or New Japan. I mean, seriously?
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Bro are you really that naive that Bryan was meant to headline WM the entire time? Did you even listen to the podcast? Look as much as I love watching the WWE I can understand that there are some corrupt schemes in there.. you WWE apologists REALLY need to get a grip of yourselves and understand that getting over with the fans is not the main factor in getting a push.. the main factor is backstage politics, thats why zack ryder was buried despite being so over. thats why del rio was pushed despite getting silence 24/7.
 
Daniel Bryan was not going to main event WM. He was headed for a match with HHH and when Hunter told Foley not to worry about DB I highly doubt he was saying Bryan would be in the main event. They realized what an awful idea Batista vs. Orton was after the took shit after shit all over it.

HHH truly believes wrestling HHH at Mania is a big deal, but he knows it isn't as big of a deal as winning the title to close the show.

At least they called the right audible.
 
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