Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Never said he would just stand there. You are trying to say Funk would so easily get caught by Stretchington Von Chesthair & his magical technical wrestling superpowers that Funk would never be able to get out of such wizardry.
Nope. Never said that. I just pointed out that it would be far more plausible for Thesz to out wrestle Terry and wear him down with repeated submissions then it would be for Funk to leave the ring and just start throwing out every weapon imaginable. I never said anything about Terry not being able to counter Thesz.
That is absurd, when you yourself know Funk is a capable mat wrestler as well. Do you think Funk would just stand there and let Thesz make him a bitch? Does he also have mind control powers rendering his opponents useless against his will?
Not at all. But based on the logic that you and others have presented it seems as though Terry would leave the ring as soon as the match starts, wrap himself in barbed wire and return with a chair in one hand and a kendo stick in the other. That's dumb. Terry's reputation as this hardcore maniac means nothing in this match.
Your crazy logic comes after the ridiculous statement that Funk respects Thesz enough to not use weapons.
Never said that either. Now you are just making shit up. I wrote that I very much expect the use of weapons in this match. Like chairs. What I don't expect is for it to devolve into this hardcore death match whatever the fuck because that's not realistic.
The stipulation puts Thesz at a disadvantage by being held in a match Funk made his playground for years after his runs being great at more traditional/technical wrestling.
This is a Last Man Standing match. It is not some hardcore death match. All Thesz has to do is keep Terry down for a 10 count. Pretty easy. All he has to do is stretch Terry until he KO's him. He's done that to other opponents before. We have seen the limits of Terry's pain tolerance when Flair made him quit after repeated applications of the Figure 4. This is going to mirror that match except Terry's going to be taking a nap instead of quitting.
Thesz would surely not just stand there and get hit, but even trying to block or disarm Funk, he would still take some major shots in the process. Then it boils down to how effective Thesz can be applying a submission hold after getting hit with things he is not used to. Lou has never fought a match like this to my knowledge. Funk thrived in them.
I'm sure chair shots are not going to be enough to keep Thesz down. Neither would getting hit with the ring bell or a TV monitor. If you think Terry is going to suddenly start busting out tables, ladders, barb wire, explosives, tacks, glass, that's not realistic. That's dumb.
Thesz has shown to be a straight laced traditionalist who would frown upon using weapons.
Doesn't mean he wouldn't use one. Now you're the one that's being silly.
Funk passing out to an STF is not a very logical scenario, especially when Thesz would avoid doing what is necessary to level the playing field.
Really, because I have yet to hear a single logical argument to counter this. All I've been hearing is that Funk is this hardcore motherfucker with a pain tolerance that defies human logic, and instead of this being a simple Last Man's Standing match it's going to turn into the type of match that New Jack would work.
That's dumb logic and not realistic to either of these men.
Vote with the legacy argument Ech, at least that carries weight. Saying weapons would not be an issue in this or downplaying the toughness of Funk is just showing you are wearing blinders again in favor of your old school tribe. Especially the argument you made saying Funk would respect him enough to keep it a traditional match. That has got to be one of the silliest things ever said.
Not nearly as silly as you just blatantly ignoring my arguments. But do you know why Thesz's opponents would wrestle with him instead of trying to do other shit? Because if they didn't he would force them to wrestle him. This is why The Sheik ran away and hid under a bus. Because Thesz was beating his ass.