Batista Was Right

[THTRobtaylor]

Ok, some perspective Dave... Last time I looked, one of the World Titles you once held is being carried by a MONSTER of a man called Mark Henry, you might remember him from those favours he did you back in the day... Now, you had the "look" but then you did your "machine gunner" act and it all fell... Henry IS intimidating because he is massive and knows how to NOT hurt you, he made you look good, so slating him is at best ungrateful... I think most fans would love to see you give him the thumbs up...

As for smaller guys, accept that the roided are dead weight... the jacked are now measured on mic and ring skill and the monsters should be freaks... they should be huge men like Kane or Khali or Henry, genuine freaks of nature who could destroy a man... not you...

 

[WWEIsLife2]

I also seem to remember an idol of Batista's named Ric Flair who mayed a living off being the cowardly heel in the NWA/WCW and the WWF/E during all his Title runs. So he has no place to say the guys today are "soft".

 

[Pedigree1]

Batistas problem right now is hes not the main focus or having the spotlight on him at all times!! He sure as shit didnt mind getting paid top dollar or being in the main event during the current PG era!! As far as smaller guys go IMO HBK was the best at being believable!! Y2J was another one very atheletic could wrestle circles around other guys given their heights they were pretty big dudes!! Miz is alright looking same with punk but with punk he can actually wrestle!!! Im glad henry is still the champion as of now and i hope he retains at TLC!!! Henry deserves his push has been in god awful programs and they should have gone with this route along time ago

 

[Brahma Bull]

He is saying that the heels dont scare you, and thats true. i never take the miz seriously. even if he was small, at least make yourself more athletic. most dont fit this mold, but i honestly cant take del rio or the miz seriously (pretty much just them two since christian is more of the knowledgable veteran).

 

[CrunKSinatrA]

One thing I've noticed is that smaller wrestlers are always the champions after Steroid scandals. I'm not good with the exact dates and I'm too lazy to do the research for a thread post.

After the Steroid Investigation into the WWE in the 90s guys like Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels, and Owen Hart dominated the main event. Before the 90s Steroid scandal, Hulk Hogan and Ultimate Warrior were the main eventers.

And smaller wrestlers continued to dominate until the Attitude Era, even though Stone Cold and the Rock aren't cruiserweights by any standard they aren't crazy.

I would say around the Ruthless Aggression Era was when the super muscular wrestlers/bodybuilders came back. That's when we had Lesnar, Cena, Batista, Heidenreich, Chris Masters, Bobby Lashley and others that I would not be surprised if they all were on steroids.

But after the Balco investigations, we came right back to smaller wrestlers and performers like the Miz, CM Punk, Rey Mysterio, and Del Rio all enjoying title reigns.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

I think The Hardcore Kid's post said a lot of what Batista's real problem is.

Dave Batista is a guy that had a great run in WWE. He's also someone that's never had any problem with WWE being PG as long as he was the guy main eventing ppvs, wrestling for World Championships and collecting 6 figure pay days every WrestleMania. As long as Batista is one of the guys that the product was built around, he's been more than fine & dandy with the direction the WWE has gone.

I think Batista's problem is that WWE saw that he was getting older. I might be wrong, but I think Batista saw that the wrestling industry was changing in that younger guys were coming up in the ranks that would eventually take his spot. Most of these guys aren't heavily muscled bodybuilding freaks like Batista and many of them can out work him inside the ring or on the mic any day of the week with both arms tied behind their backs and ball gags in their mouths.

If you've ever read Batista's book, if you've ever heard, read or listened to interviews with him; he's an extremely macho minded type of person. He has very specific, set ideas about what someone should be and writes off anything who doesn't meet his criteria as inferior. If you listen to Batista, you'd think that every big name that's come along in wrestling history is some hulked out muscle freak when that's not the case at all.

Batista is the guy that a few years ago said that AJ Styles didn't know how to wrestle, so you'll forgive me if I don't take the view of an overrated hack who primarily got by because of a fantastic look as to what's a good wrestling product and who can actually deliver inside the ring.

 

[R.K.O]

I can agree with Batista to a certain extend here, some members of the roster like look like they do not belong to a wrestling ring. Also you have storyline that had 99% of the roster walked out because of "unsafe" work condition which ain't even that unsafe in the first place and the only thing it has accomplished was to make 99% of the roster look like whiny pussy whipped wimps.

I have no problems with "smaller" wrestlers like CM Punk who uses muay thai that can legitimately kick anyone's ass or a submission specialist like Daniel Bryan who can single limps out and work on it.

But when wrestlers such as The Miz say he will "beat up" The Rock and people who has held him back, or when someone like Wade Barrett "dominates" Randy Orton in a feud, that's where it gets unbelievable and sometimes funny.

 

[Big Papa Santo]

And Dave is so cheap that tomorrow if WWE threw him a penny he'd say that they are god's gift to professional wrestling. Get over it Dave, you had your small time in the spotlight and now its time for others to get it too so now go back to doing whatever else it is that you do, oh yeah, collect lunchboxes

 

[The Idiot]

I know batista is kind of a douche, but he is right, todays wrestlers are soft, and have no scare factor, where have all the heavyweights gone, superstars like the miz, and jomo, r truth, alberto, are all small compared to what alot of wrestlers used to be like, now i know there are exceptions to the rule, but look at when the rock came back, he towered over miz, the only thing they have right,right now is mark henry holding the title...thoughts??

I thought we all learned this in 1994? THe main event guys don't HAVE to be big. The in-ring talent, the mic skills, building a match....all things Batista sucks at. He would have been great in the 80's.

 

[iwinulose]

big guys who are talented are great, but lets face it big guys dont need to wrestle, they just need to destroy, Andre the giant, vicsera, big show, and mark henry are a few examples. the smaller guys, yes some like shawn michaels strived but you knew that when when came out you were in for one hell of a match.

let's face it, these guys dont get the huge matches the guys from the attitude era got but they do that because to many people were getting hurt. they had to soften up the product to keep guys around longer. yes its unfortunate but thats what they had to do, cause these wrestlers are people to (and cause the owners wife is trying to get legal power), to say otherwise is to be selfish and arrogant.

the issue with these guys now is that none of them have earned any respect from the crowds, people see these guys now a days come out, and know they will get a match, but they wont get that extreme hardcore style match up that they want. ppv's are now where we get the most hardcore wrestling and thats what you used to get on RAW, ECW, and SMACKDOWN, ppv's used to have the most hardcore matches, and thats what got people wanting more, thats what got people interested, look at the product now, and you will find that people are no longer interested in the product, compared to 10 - 15 years ago.

to be entirely honest, to get people interested again the wwe needs to bring back that "WOW" "OMG" factor that they used to have, or else everyone will turn away, and eventually the wwe will completely crash and burn.

 

[Unclerubbish]

It's all about how it is booked. Think about when you first saw this stuff and it hooked you. Am I expected to believe that the mix is s credible threat to one of our hero babyfaces? I don't understand how him and truth were booked to lose at survivor series, it made them even less credible they could of easy won that match through dirty tactics and it wouldn't have taken any shine away from rock and cena.
The problem I find on these sort of forums is people refuse to be entertained. The cowardly heel is a staple and ric flair was the blueprint but he wasnt booked to lose matches constantly, he would win with dirty tactics. There are too many of the cowardly heel types. Miz is now unconvincing as a threat and del rio isn't intimidating either. Infect in del rios case he is not getting the right type of heat at all. I.e people don't want to see him get the s**t beat out of him... They just don't want to see him.

Everyone on the Internet seems to just want a card full of 5 stars from the smaller guys who can move. There is a place for that and I enjoy a good show of in ring prowess between two skilled guys. But that is not the be all and end all of what pro wrestling is.

I watch this to be entertained and of course I am going to have to suspend disbelief. Hogan slamming Andre, warrior locked in a coffin, michaels kicking janetty through the window, Virgil turning on dibiase, Kane debut and returns, lesnar and big show destroying the ring. It's entertaining.

The problem now is all you hear is he needs a push and he needs a push just because he can put a good match on. It's bollocks.

Batista may be a tool but when he was booked against triple h leaving evolution I enjoyed it and wanted to see triple h get beat up. Good booking.

The smaller guys might be able to put on a classic match but they need to convince the average fan that they are a credible threat in the ring. People like Jericho did this through sensible booking he was resilient in a way that you thought even the biggest guy wouldn't be able to keep shoulders down and the fast count title win over triple h cemented him even further. But above all else it was entertaining and convincing and now it's just not.

 

[BASSER911414]

Could be because the use of performance enhancement drugs are frowned upon these days. Or because being big doesn't make you a great wrestler.

Does anyone remember that Batista was complete shit at the beginning of his career... well for most of his time in the WWE? Not to mention he was injury prone because he was just a big muscular wrestler, with no actual athletic talent.

Batista isn't naturally big, he's a steroid freak.
Rock isn't naturally that big, yes he played football, yes he was bigger, but he's twice as big now as he was when he came back in April, which is 4times larger than he was when he left.
Cena isn't naturally that big, but he packs it on well and maintains it.
Triple H isn't naturally that big, he's probably the smallest he's been since 2000, but he's still over 250 pounds
Austin wasn't naturally that big, but he was still massive in his prime.

A lot of the guys now are athlete, with backgrounds in real sports.

Batista was a weight lifter when Triple h discovered him at a weight lifting show. Weight Lifters are usually big guys, who power lift to get enormous. Swagger and Zigger both come from a background in amateur wrestling, Ziggler is shredded to all shit, if he was to bulk up to the size of say John Cena he would lose his speed.

Punk, Ziggler, Rhodes, the Miz, R-Truth, Ryder, are not small guys they all average over 6 feet in height, and 200 pounds. They might not be 6'4 300pound juice monsters like Batista was in his prime, but their still intimidatingly large guys. I doubt Batista would talk that shit to any of their faces, especially CM Punk.

Batista needs to sit at home and recover from his back surgery and keep his fucking jaws just before he ruins any chance he has in the future of returning to the WWE.

I bet Goldberg didn't think Chris Jericho would choke him out in a fight, but it happened.

Get your point but u really cant compare guys to the stars back in the day. No matter what people think you cannot compare CM Punk, Cena and Orton of today to Rock, Austin and HHH of the years 1998-2001. Back then HIAC matches meant something. Now its a PPV that happens every year. Back then when one top guy(s) wanted to leave for some time, there were others to carry his weight. Honestly you cant tell me Dolph Ziggler, ADR, Morrison, Miz and Rhodes have the look for a world champion. Compare them to guys like Jericho, HHH, Rock, Austin, Angle and hell even guys who didnt keep the title for long like Kane, Big Show. The feud between Edge and Ziggler for the WHC was borderline laughable. Not the feud in itself but the two characters going at it. On one side you have a legitimate guy who looks like a champ. Rockstar lifestyle, been there long, extremely cool move set. On the other hand you have a guy who looks like he spends 5 hours in front of the mirror and hides behind his manager. And Miz, hes doing the best that he can but really guys like Miz arent cut out for the big picture in the long run. He could be a slot filler when people get bored of the big heel but hes not a good long term heel champ. Like HHH was. And I remember this time last year when people were all over John Morrison. Headlining WM 28 was the lesser comments. Look at him now and really have we sunk so low that we wish a flamboyant, Hollywood lifestyle, spot monkey, fur coat wearing, big sunglass wearing midcarder who has the corniest theme song in the world be our champion. And ADR has been the biggest disappointment of them all.

Now compare the heels of today to the hells of then. Miz, Truth (in his defense he was in the WWE back in the early years), ADR, Rhodes and Ziggler to the heels of back in the day. HHH, Angle, Y2J, Kane, DX, Big Show. When a face beat these guys it was like the worlds biggest accomplishment and back then guys like Big Show, Viscera and Mark Henry actually put on really cool matches where it actually felt like clash of the titans and not a slow paced match where people chant BORING.

Il say this about Mark Henry. He is exactly what Smackdown needs as a champ. The guy who beats Henry (not counting big show) will get a push straight towards stardom. Im hoping its DB.

So in a way I get what Batista means but I also believe he has no right to run his mouth. Going PG was not the wrestlers' choice but the management and the wrestlers are doing the best they can with what they can. But like I said the faces and heels of today are nothing compared to the faces and heels of yesterday.

And btw Jericho didnt choke out Goldberg. He put him in a standing guillotine or as the wrestling world calls it 'front face lock' which makes no sense since its not his face ur locking its his neck. And a 6 yr old could put u in a guillotine and ud be tapping out 4 seconds max.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

At his height a certain Steve Austin was fuckin' unbeatable. And he did that with his 17 inch pythons. Batista's opinion is assinine for the main fact that the E had Austin, Rock, Foley in its hottest period, a time that Batista can only fap about, and they carried the ball home by giving entertaining television week after week. How incredibly badass was Angle when he went into that Wrestling Machine phase or the ruthlessness of Benoit!
Cena's undefeatability for years had our panties in a bunch.

 

[ULTRASTARZZ]

The bottomline is Batista is SO WRONG in so many levels;

1) Batista is the perfect example of being the product of the WWE system: some big-muscled guy who was only successful because he was big. As a fan of professional wrestling, he has a right to his opinion about the industry. However, if he is opposing the same system that made him who he is and where he is right now, he is just another hypocritical douche. And based on the fact that he was a top star in the PG era and on reports of the past, he most likely is.

2) Bigger is NOT always better. Shawn Michaels, Chris Jericho, and his good buddies Rey Mysterio and Eddie Guerrero prove otherwise. You don't have to be big to be intimidating. Otherwise, CM Punk or Daniel Bryan can legitimately place you on a hospital bed for 3 months.

3) A lot of the young stars of today have paid their dues before reaching where they are. It took The Miz almost 9 years to finally become WWE Champion. It doesn't matter if he spent most of those being a jobber in the WWE; he spent a year in the indies. Dolph Ziggler went from amateur wrestler to caddy to cheerleader to just another guy with a horrible name to being a show-off. And Wade Barrett? He is a legitimately intimidating guy capable of knocking you out. A bareknuckle champion with a disfigured nose is all you need to know to prove otherwise. Of course, it will be unfair to compare how the stars of today got here to how the stars of the past started. The situations are completely different, so that is not fair. Point is, these guys paid their dues, and earned their spots right now.

4) It is not the Superstars' fault; it is the management's. They blew a lot of potentially great angles and limited the creativity of almost every single WWE Superstar and Diva. Safe to say, though, that the WWE currently is better than when Batista was in the main event. Young stars are being built up, the wrestling matches have been great, and well, we are not seeing Randy Orton and John Cena win every match of theirs compared to 2009.

Anyways, I was never a fan of Batista because as I said, he is a symbol of the big-man-fetishes that the WWE brass seem to be completely obsessed with. Instead of whining (in disguise) about why you did not get that face-of-the-company status you should not have the opportunity to begin with, why don't you just show some more gratitude and be more graceful in trying to suggest how the WWE could be better?

 

[KoC417]

I know batista is kind of a douche, but he is right, todays wrestlers are soft, and have no scare factor, where have all the heavyweights gone, superstars like the miz, and jomo, r truth, alberto, are all small compared to what alot of wrestlers used to be like, now i know there are exceptions to the rule, but look at when the rock came back, he towered over miz, the only thing they have right,right now is mark henry holding the title...thoughts??

Who are we talking about again? Oh Batista...right yeah..umm that guy... the Steroid abusing muscled up woman molesting douche. Yeah he's a guy we ALL should be listening to. Funny you should bring JoMo and Batista up in the same topic. Wasn't Batista banging Melina while JoMo was in the ring? Anyways Batista has always been a joke in the ring. He has even fewer moves than Cena at this point and the guy was so boring. Who did he put over? What did he do for the WWE?

So I guess guys like:
Bret Hart
Chris Benoit
Eddie Gurerro
Ric Flair

Etc etc weren't good candidates to hold the title because they weren't "big guys"?

To the point:
There is NO scare factor in kids anymore man. My 6 year old cousin goes to Halloween horror nights and never gets scared. It is very difficult to scare kids these days especially in a PG rating where they try to limit blood flow and such. You want to bring scary back? Get rid of the no blood and such. Blood, while not always necessary can bring certain fear. I mean come on if Cena looked like he was bleeding half to death in front of Little Jimmy in the front row and masked Kane comes over and continues to torment Cena that would scare the pants off the kid.
Batista has no real place to talk about superstars being "soft" wasn't this the same guy who cried in the ring while sitting in a wheel chair and whined like a baby back b*tch? All Batista is trying to do is make himself appear relevant again by voice his useless opinion.

 

[Low_Ki]

Lets face it, its hypocracy in its purest form.

Batista is not right. It seems the only reason he has an opinion now is because he no longer works for them. I didn't hear him complaining about the product when he was main eventing Wrestlemania and as far as I can remember, he was a PG raised wrestler too.

CM Punk and the likes of Mark Henry are far more entertaining that he ever was. He was just a guy who came out, did some ******ed machine gun thing and was carried through most of his later matches.

No doubt the guy was over, but how can he critisise a product that he is still only recently removed from? Answer=hypocrite.

 

[JaylisJayP]

I agree with those who say it's not just the size...you've got plenty of examples of that on both sides of the size spectrum (HBK and Mason Ryan come to mind).

Miz is the worst for me, especially in this age where everyone who actually cares about following the storylines knows the online news, he makes himself out to be this total bad-ass who "took out" R-Truth and JoMo, and everyone knows they were both out or leaving anyway. He is the furthest thing from believable when he tries to indtimidate John Cena...I can see why Cena smiles and giggles when Miz talks, he's a total joke. It's a sad state of the WWE when they have no choice but to put Miz in the main event picture just because he has passable mic skills.

 

[THTRobtaylor]

Sure its tough to scare a kid today... especially at wrestling, The business has to an extent moved past the idea of wrestlers scaring people cos a) we know what they are doing is fake and they may not be as tough in a fight and b) their aura is neutered the moment the match ends... in the 80's if you messed with a wrestler at a show you'd get your ass kicked legit, hated wrestlers would be wary of knives and being shot on the way out and back... Guys like Haku, Harley Race and David Shultz that aura and reputation for being tough bastards out of the ring... if you fucked with them at the bar you were going to the emergency room...in today's WWE no one would dare touch you for fear of the lawsuits and losing their spot, hell even a domestic dispute can lose you your job/push... just ask Drew or Rhyno...

The closest there's been was the Jericho altercation a while ago where he ended up hitting a woman who got in his face... He was 100 right to do what he did, and notice he was never sued...cos it was on tape and he was clearly in an me or them situation...same with the Goldberg moment... even if a douche runs the ring now they barely get a touch from the wrestlers... If you'd tried to run a Harley Race match you wouldn't have survived... period... you had to protect the business at all costs...

That is not Vince's fault, its the American system that allows anyone to sue for millions on the back of acting an ass and getting a slap for doing so... like the muppet who sued Davey Boy Smith after he battered him for sexually assaulting his wife... Today, sponsors and toy companies dictating what is acceptable for role models to be... it blows...

That is what is "brutal" right now Dave, and the irony is that had you been around in the 80's you would have been the first one to run from the fights or have a Haku bail you out...tough guy

 

[JohnJohnson]

This turned into a Batista bashing quickly. The guy says that wrestlers are smaller. It's true. The original topic was about current superstars being smaller. So why is almost every post going off on a Batista rant before getting to the damn point. Sure there have been many great wrestlers who weren't big. I don't see Chris Benoit as being on that list because the guy was jacked, he just wasn't tall. Same for Macho Man. But you would look at him and think "professional wrestler". If I was with a friend who does not watch wrestling at all and we saw CM Punk out somewhere and I said to that friend that he was a wrestler, I doubt they'd believe me. And if I were to go further and say that he is the heavyweight champ(yes I know he is the WWE champ but before bringing in WCW's belt both were called WCW/WWF heavyweight champion of the world) then I'd probably get laughed at. You take the names like Shawn Michaels, Jericho, Flair, Eddie etc and try to argue that small guys can be amazing in the ring. Yes that's true but HBK was pretty big and completely solid in his prime plus he was just a talented person who is an all time great. Jericho was recognized wrestling as a cruiserweight in WCW and holding the cruiserweight belt just like Eddie. When Jericho won his undisputed championship, no one bought it and no one would have expected it because the other 3 competing for the belt were HHH, Rock, Austin. All big guys and in most people's minds, at the time, the only 3 options for the title. When there was a light-heavyweight division, it was 215lbs and under. Most of the top guys in the WWE now would have been in that division. CM Punk is booked at 218lbs so I'm sure he would be included as well.
I'm not saying small guys are bad or have no skill. They can be great, but Mysterio vs Batista? Really? Miz threatening Rock? Really? CM Punk vs Triple H or John Cena? Really? Jomo vs anyone not a diva? Really? Not taking anything away from the small guys but when you match them up against big guys then it makes no sense to me for the small guy to win cleanly. Yet it happens.
I remember back in the attitude days X-Pac was extremely over with the fans, had great charisma and athleticism, was entertaining as hell, and had great merch sales. Did they book him for the heavyweight belt? No because that was for guys like Taker, Kane, Show, Austin, Rock, HHH. Those guys were big all at least 250 as were most wrestlers back then. Now I watch wrestling and most of them are smaller than me. And considering the fact that someone like CM Punk who is 218 and flabby, would probably be like 195-200 if toned like HBK or Y2J you can't really use them as examples of small guys. If HBK woke up and decided "fuck-it I'll just let myself go and get as flabby as say Miz, Punk, ADR then he would easily be 240lbs. That's hardly small.
Bottomline small guys dominating the ME/ upper mid card over big guys is unbelievable. They don't need to be 300lb freaks like Batista but I'd like to see a good 250 or at least bigger than myself holding the top belts. I could kick CM Punk's ass any day of the week and twice on Tuesday.

 

[ae_wrestler123]

Totally agree with johnjohnson. I mean come on the belt is bigger than these guys. Look at punk, it looks as though the belt would throw him down. yea you don't need to be big to be a "wrestler" but wwe was always been about big brawny guys who are strong and athletic. Hogan became over becuz of his size and "strength" when he lifted andre. If they book punk vs mark henry or the big show what will be the believable outcome of that match? And all those guys who pple say were small but great, they were freakin jacked when they were in their prime. Alot bigger than the smaller guys now. If you go by wrestling ability then maybe they should have some great high school wrestlers in the business which i'm sure a few of them could out wrestle these guys. In all sports guys fight in their weight division and there is a reson for that.

 

[blkshp]

Did u ever think that some of the smaller guys were jacked because they used steroids and current guys can't? I'm sure some of the guys you mentioned would be just as cut it they were roided out too. But this whole big small argument is pretty rediculous imo. Mason Ryan is huge, how come fans of huge wrestlers don't come running to his defense when everybody says he sucks? Because at the end of the day, talent and a will to be the best overrule endless amounts of muscle.

 

[ae_wrestler123]

Did u ever think that some of the smaller guys were jacked because they used steroids and current guys can't? I'm sure some of the guys you mentioned would be just as cut it they were roided out too. But this whole big small argument is pretty rediculous imo. Mason Ryan is huge, how come fans of huge wrestlers don't come running to his defense when everybody says he sucks? Because at the end of the day, talent and a will to be the best overrule endless amounts of muscle.

That is why i said big and athletic. Mason ryan is not athletic. I am not saying they should have 300 pound shitheads in the ring who can't even move their arms but just that they should have big guys contending for the heavy weight title. As you pointed mason ryan, i'm pretty sure he is roided out so why can't the other guys use them too? And also cena, no one can honestly tell me he is "naturally" that big. In sports they always bill guys in weight class. I don't care how much talent or will you have, you need to look good in this business at least. The current wwe champion looks like a flabby crack head. No wonder the wwe is going down the drain. Vince don't play to iwc marks cuz they won't bring in millions. And only the iwc marks look for "talent". The layman won't give a shit. He is just gonna look at this guy and say "hmph, he looks like i a piece of shit". Would you like to see a one legged guy be the wwe champion cuz he has the talent and will?

 

[blkshp]

So you're "pretty sure" Ryan is roided out? Then why hasn't he been suspended for it yet? He's not a main eventer, he's not a draw, so there's point in trying to hide his test results. You assume Cena can't naturally be that big but you can't back that up with any facts. So you're pretty much talking out of your ass here. You want "big, athletic guys" but that doesn't make them great. I personally could care less who's bigger then who because I've seen huge guys who can't fight and little guys beat the hell out someone who outweighs them 30-40 lbs. Yes wrestling ability counts just as much as size, which counts just as much as charisma. If you're so interested in weight classes, you probably shouldn't be watching and complaining about a scripted sport. Boxing has distinct weight classes and so does MMA, hey maybe you'll even catch a Ba(u)tista match! And would I like like to see a 1 legged guy with talent and will be champ over a roided out buffoon? Why not? I've seen plenty of roided out buffoons but a 1 legged champ? That would be different. If only the WWE weren't going down that proverbial drain, maybe they could air that match on their network...

 

[R.W. Heenan]

I like Batista but I don't know why he has to throw Miz under the bus like that. So what if Batista is a lot bigger then Miz? I personally find Miz more entertaining on the microphone and think he's a better worker in the ring. I hate when people shit on Miz's in-ring skills...he really is good and only getting better. Also, Miz loves wrestling. Since he was a kid he's dreamed of doing it and has worked very hard to get where he is. I read someone saying Miz didn't do the indy's on here and that's wrong. Miz worked the independent scene for three years before WWE picked him up. Batista was thrown into wrestling, he doesn't have a passion or love for it....With that said, I'd take seeing Miz on RAW then Batista in 2012. I'm not trying to knock Batista but he's got nerve...he should stop bashing the WWE because he's almost in his mid-40's now and his chances for more runs are getting smaller and smaller as he gets older and older....though he's still in impeccable shape.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Batista made some comments on Twitter regarding Daniel Bryan winning the WHC last night:

"so to clear up any misunderstanding about me hating on Daniel Bryan...actually i've been a supporter of his for years,unlike most of you Johnny come lately smart mark supporters. we actually had a hell of a match together that was originally supposed to be a squash match until this old broken down ex bodybuilder who never deserved to be champion and only had it handed to me because HHH was my boy...refused to job the kid out because i knew how good he was and wanted to have a f--king match with him before i left the company. and a hell of a match we had considering where our respective places in the company were at the time. so yes im aware of all of his accomplishments and hard work through out the years and i'm thrilled to death for him....but still...World Heavyweight champ???ummmmmmm...ok. opinions are like assholes. my Twitter account,my opinion. and to all the b---h ass haters who just dogged me out and b---hed about how horrible i was.....i've worked with HHH, the Undertaker,Rey Mysterio,Randy Orton Stone Cold,Edge,John Cena,Chris Benoit,Ric f--king Flair!!etc.etc.. and they all respected me and my work. Eddie Guerrero respected my work. so don't expect your little bulls--t remarks to actually carry any weight. in your b---h ass faces!!"

It's not really an attack on Daniel Bryan so much as it is an attack on people that just aren't Batista fans. It reminds me of a Twitter post that TNA wrestler Gunner made a few months go ranting and raving about much the same thing. Basically, Batista is lashing out at anyone that's never really been a fan of him. If you like him, great, if you don't then you're "b---h ass haters". My opinion of the guy remains the same. He's an overrated hack with a great look and the only times he was able to put on good matches was when far more talented guys like Triple H, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Randy Orton, Edge & others carried him every step of the way. Dave Batista thinks he's a god among men and the fact that he happens to be built like a god means that all us other regular mortals should bow down and acknowlege that he's what the ideal wrestler is supposed to be. I wouldn't take 20 Batistas for 1 Daniel Bryan, 1 CM Punk or 1 Dolph Ziggler.