Ashley

[giantz4eva]

Who else thinks that now that she's gonna be on the Playboy cover that she'll go over to RAW, possibly win the Women's Championship, and have a match at Wrestlemania? This sounds unlikely, but it wouldn't be surprising. The most unlikely thing is her jumping brands. What do you guys think?

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Ashley winning the Women's Title would be the most horrendus, horrible, vile, disgusting, dispicable, thing ever to happen to the WWE (you can tell I don't like her). Ashley just simply cannot wrestle, and doesn't have enough talent to even go for the Women's Title. That honor should stay with real female wrestlers, not models who only get the title to promote Playboy Covers.

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Dragon

 

[Code Red]

Ashley winning the Women's Title? I hate to say it, but it would do for that title what David Arquette winning the WHC in WCW did for that belt. I do like Ashley. She seems like a nice gal, friendly, with good taste in music, and she's about to grace the pages of Playboy for the second time - there's no denying that she is quite the looker. But she flat out cannot wrestle, and has to be tied with Kelly Kelly for the title of worst female in-ring performer (we won't pass judgment on Layla El just yet) - hence the reason she is on SmackDown! with all the Divas who really aren't capable of anything other than standing around and looking pretty (save for Jillian Hall, who I really was hoping would make a surprise appearance in the Battle Royal on Raw last week).

 

[Y 2 Jake]

Ashley is a complete waste of space. At least Christy Hemme had an inch of personallity. And before she was released she eas starting to become quite capable in the ring. Ashley has'nt improved one bit. Also she's the clumsiest wrestler I've seen in a long while. She's broken her leg and wrist and I believe she's had a few other injuries. I know it's partly WWE fault for putting her in the ring when she's not ready.

I dont think she will get a shot at the title because:-

A) she's on Smackdown and I think they are keeping that as the Bra and Panties brand.

B) Candice, Torrie and Sable have all appeared in Playboy over the years and they have'nt been given a title shot at W.M. So I'm opyimistic Ashley wont be given the same oppertunity.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Personaly, I think this whole Playboy thing is BS. No offense to Playboy, but it just sucks that Ashley is getting more attention now because she's posing for Playboy than Victoria does when she puts on amazing matches. Seriously, I wish Ashley would leave and go back to being a model. She isn't punk, and she certanily isn't a wrestler who deserves the Women's Title- a title that used to be respected.

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Dragon

 

[Mr Wrestling]

Ok, I'm going to go against the grain on this one and say that I don't really feel that Ashley's lack of skill in the ring is her fault. It was WWE's decision to put her straight to television rather than sending her to OVW. It would have been a much wiser choice to have done that but, as with many other things, the WWE would rather get quick results rather than good results. I would also like to say that I see no reason why Ashley, given the proper training, wouldn't be able to hold her own as one of the top wrestling divas in the company. God knows she has the build for it. That girl has some serious muscle definition. On top of that, what I have seen from her on Smackdown lately, she is giving a valid attempt to get better which is a hell of a lot more than I can say about Torrie Wilson and several of the other "eye candy" divas. My opinion on the matter, give the girl some time and see what happens with her. If the higher-ups ever give her the opportunity to improve I think would more than jump on the opportunity. Look at Trish Stratus. When she first came into wrestling she had no talent whatsoever and she retired a couple of months ago holding the record for most Women's Championship reigns in WWE history and being called by many, the greatest Women's Champion of all time. I say give the girl some time. At least she's putting some effort forward.

 

[v14ever]

Ok, I'm going to go against the grain on this one and say that I don't really feel that Ashley's lack of skill in the ring is her fault. It was WWE's decision to put her straight to television rather than sending her to OVW. It would have been a much wiser choice to have done that but, as with many other things, the WWE would rather get quick results rather than good results. I would also like to say that I see no reason why Ashley, given the proper training, wouldn't be able to hold her own as one of the top wrestling divas in the company. God knows she has the build for it. That girl has some serious muscle definition. On top of that, what I have seen from her on Smackdown lately, she is giving a valid attempt to get better which is a hell of a lot more than I can say about Torrie Wilson and several of the other "eye candy" divas. My opinion on the matter, give the girl some time and see what happens with her. If the higher-ups ever give her the opportunity to improve I think would more than jump on the opportunity. Look at Trish Stratus. When she first came into wrestling she had no talent whatsoever and she retired a couple of months ago holding the record for most Women's Championship reigns in WWE history and being called by many, the greatest Women's Champion of all time. I say give the girl some time. At least she's putting some effort forward.

I beg to differ on the statement about Torrie and Candice. As well as Ashley, they do look like they are putting forth a little more effort. The one that gets put into matches that needs some work is Maria.

Speaking of Divas in Playboy, I really wouldn't mind seeing Victoria, she really doesn't look that bad, and has one hell of an ass! I wish Ivory would have posed while she was still in WWE.

 

[dboy1373]

i know this is of the topic but how do you start a thread or can some one post this thread

Day of reckoning wii?

is their going to be a third installment in this series or will smackdown vs. raw come over?
If this is going to happen when?

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[Mr Wrestling]

I have to agree with your point on Maria. She has zero on the talent scale. I never said Candice wasn't putting forth effort. In my opinion she is probably the most improved diva of the year.

 

[jericho9]

I'm not a huge fan of Ashley, but it's not like the women's division has a lot of depth. As far as decent wrestling ability goes there's basically Victoria and Mickie James, on RAW anyway. I don't think Vince has much of a choice.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

I'm sick and tired of people saying oh this diva's gotten better, when they really haven't. Just look at Christy Hemme- she was a diva search girl but only after a few months in the WWE, she knew different moves and could put on an okay match. Not everyone can be a good wrestler, or a wrestler for that matter- and I think Ashley is one of those people. No doubt, that women like Candice are really improving but I cannot say the same for Ashely.

As far as the womens division, so far we still have Victoria, Beth, Mickie, Trinity, Jillian, and Kristal in my opinion, who is also pretty good. There's still a few.

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Dragon

 

[Code Red]

I have not seen Ashley pull off one single move that impressed me. Everything she has done has been very rudimentary. At the same stage of development, I have seen other Diva Search contestants pull off at least one move that surprised me - for instance, Kristal did a nice head scissors takedown in one match and Candice Michelle has her little head scissor choke move over the ropes. With Ashley, it's basically only the moves you're taught in Pro Wrestling 101 - body slam, clothesline, hip toss, etc. I also haven't seen anyone mention that she is quite prone to injury - as far as I can tell, she has already sustained 2 or 3 injuries during her relatively brief time with the company. Truthfully, I don't see what someone like Ashley has to offer WWE aside from physical attractiveness. However, as we have witnessed on several occasions in the past, that may be the only thing she needs.

 

[Eternal Dragon]

Exactly!!! Kristal, Candice Michelle, Christy Hemme all have some kind of skill in the ring. But, Ashley does not show it at all. People don't give enough respect and credit to wrestlers like Victoria and Molly Holly, but turn around and notice Ashley?

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Dragon