Aren't we tired of Super Punk yet?

[IHW]

I find it funny that some people are thinking Sly is being serious. And even funnier are the ones who try to be sarcastic with him.

I sure am not tired of Punk. Just a year ago we were all mad about the hot potato title. I am loving this one year reign. What helps us put up with Punk are his recent heel turn and the fact that he isn't always the main focus. Punk's heel turn keeps his character fresh. It happening in the midst of his epic reign makes it that much better. And, although I don't fully agree with this, he hasn't been the main focus during his run. You've had Cena/Lesnar, Cena/Rock, Raw 1000, Johnny Ace Angle, Money in the bank cash ins, and many other things that took lead over Punk. The best thing about all of it is that Punk was able to remain champion through it all.

 

[deslok]

I just don't understand Punk's appeal. I would love to see Lesnar destroy Punk, have him get off of TV for a while, and come back a baby face.
It was kinda edgy at first, with his indian style promos and all that, but now it is just lame. They should not, out of respect for past superstars, make his title reign go longer than anymore legends of the business than they have already.
On the other hand, perhaps he is doing his job just fine. I really want to see John Cena, or somebody, destroy Punk. He makes Cena seem not so bad.

 

[Danger Burger]

It was kinda edgy at first, with his indian style promos and all that

Indian what??


I cant believe vince ever though putting the strap on this, what, five foot four chubster was a good idea. The guys got nothing in his favour. He looks like he hasnt slept in days (weeks?) and he clearly has a receeding hairline. And I'm supposed to buy him as the champ?? With a receeding hairline??

Vince needs to get off his indies high horse or the product will continue to circle the drain. NXT champion, WWE champion, Tag Team, US title... All held by short punk nobodies. These guys can barely lift their arms, let alone scoop slam Andre the Giant.

Put the belt back on Cena or Ryback and let the real men sort it out among themselves. These guys dont even eat meat.

 

[TheLoneCharles]

I agree that Punk's reign is getting old but that is the entire point of a long reign. People WANT to see Punk get knocked off because now the title actually means something. With this reign, I think there is no longer any question that Punk belongs in the main event and cemented his status.

 

[Suneeboy]

Very funny post. Sarcasm at it's absolute finest. Reading the responses of some of the people who's head this thread went completely over is priceless.

Throwing in the "lol" and the inarticulate grammar was a great touch and definitely made for a great read. I have nothing to add to this thread other than, "Bravo!".

 

[OneLoneSapper]

Remember Super Cena? How about Super JBL? Or Super Austin, Super Rock, Super Triple H? The truth is that argument could be made against anyone who has held a championship for any period of time. Does it get old after a time? Sure. But it builds up suspense. People buy tickets and PPV's to see that person get beat, and eventually Punk will be beat, just like everyone else in the history of pro wrestling has.

As far as a limited move set, all WWE wrestlers have limited move sets. Really all wrestlers have somewhat limited moves that they use consistently. There isn't one who comes up with something new on a regular basis. Kofi does certain signature moves. So does Miz, Orton, Undertaker and everyone else in wrestling. If you have a problem with that you might want to stop watching.

Actually that is my answer to your entire problem. If you don't like the direction WWE is going, or you don't like who has a belt, just stop watching. If you need a wrestling fix watch TNA, or ROH, or CMLL or just about any promotion you can think of on YouTube. You have all the power, just change the channel.

 

[Ryberg]

Indian what??


I cant believe vince ever though putting the strap on this, what, five foot four chubster was a good idea. The guys got nothing in his favour. He looks like he hasnt slept in days (weeks?) and he clearly has a receeding hairline. And I'm supposed to buy him as the champ?? With a receeding hairline??

Vince needs to get off his indies high horse or the product will continue to circle the drain. NXT champion, WWE champion, Tag Team, US title... All held by short punk nobodies. These guys can barely lift their arms, let alone scoop slam Andre the Giant.

Put the belt back on Cena or Ryback and let the real men sort it out among themselves. These guys dont even eat meat.

First of all Cena and Ryback can't wrestle. Cena is the poster boy for WWE hence why is always in the title picture.

All of you who say Punk can't wrestle obviously missed his DB feud. Punk has to "dumb down" his wrestling for people who can't wrestle and are limited LIKE CENA AND RYBACK! Watch Cena matches, everyone carries him. Ryback is great against jobbers but against the established wrestlers it shows how out of his class Skip is.

Ryback couldn't even slam Tensai so your point is...... Down the toilet for you! Most people are sick of the cardboard cut out vanilla WWE products. BTW where do you think a majority of the guys who made came from, THE INDIES!!!!!!!!!!! Cena started in UPW. HHH was a jobber in WCW before going to WWF! Quit pretending you know anything about wrestling, it's embarrassing.

 

[Jonyboyuk2]

I agree. The Result at Survivor Series was stupid. If CM Punk is going to win - he should win clean. Maybe have Ryback hit Cena with his finisher then have Punk take advantage and have him hit Ryback with the GTS and pin him.. but just. that is how to build CM Punk for The Rock at RR.

Last nights result made John Cena look weak. Made CM Punk look as a non-serious threat to the Rock, and made a guy who the fans are not sure about (ryback) get his ass handed to him by two unknowns.

Sure it may help the two new comers to get a name for themselves - but will WWE follow through with it? Look at what happened with Ryan Mason and everyone in the Nexus (Wade barrett not included).? Thye push them then drop them and the fans get sick of it.

As for CM Punk - I don;t mind him winning all the time - but the pay off has to be a big WM match. I hope he holds the belt til WM and the Rock beats him. Then I hope ZIggler cashes in his MITB briefcase and beats the Rock.

 

[deslok]

I didn't miss the sarcasm. It's just that isn't what I want my wrestling about, sarcastic, hipster looking champions who look like they should be serving me a latte at Starbucks.
I think Jericho said it best, who cares about his reign, or the belt. Put it on a real champion, a believable one.

 

[Danger Burger]

First of all Cena and Ryback can't wrestle. Cena is the poster boy for WWE hence why is always in the title picture.

All of you who say Punk can't wrestle obviously missed his DB feud. Punk has to "dumb down" his wrestling for people who can't wrestle and are limited LIKE CENA AND RYBACK! Watch Cena matches, everyone carries him. Ryback is great against jobbers but against the established wrestlers it shows how out of his class Skip is.

Ryback couldn't even slam Tensai so your point is...... Down the toilet for you! Most people are sick of the cardboard cut out vanilla WWE products. BTW where do you think Skip and a majority of the guys who made came from??? HHH was a jobber in WCW before going to WWF! Quit pretending you know anything about wrestling, it's embarrassing.

You were saying something??

Oh, sure, punk has loads of arm-drags, I've seen most his matches over the last few years. That dont impressa me much. Watching him and DB roll around for half an hour was rivetting. Drop kick was the highlight spot of the match. How do you think Cena got to the top of the food chain without the ability to wrestle?? Why do you think millions of people buy his stuff and guys like the rock and austin revere him so highly??

Ryback came from WWE developementals, same as Cena. And ortan. Brock Lesnar. The Rock... you know, those people that are keeping the WWE alive. People that can wrestle.

And by the way, WCW wasnt an indie promotion.

Most importantly though

Spoiler

I was being sarcastic, captain IQ. As was sly when he made the thread. Now are going to continue following me around or have you something better to be at?

 

[air2data]

How is it CM Punk gets to win every title match he's in? It's the same thing all the time, where Punk looks like he is about to lose, and then somehow leaves with the title. Punk only has like 6 moves anyway. I, for one, am getting sick of seeing Super Punk hold the title for forever. Not to mention, he keeps carrying around that stupid spinner belt.

I hope Super Punk loses the title soon. Maybe he can lose it to a good wrestler like Ryback, someone who actually looks legitimate in the ring and not some phony. Maybe Ryback can be Punk's kryptonite lol. And then Ryback can come out on Raw the next night, talk about how Super Punk's belt is such a kiddy toy, and bring back a title with prestige, like the Attitude Era belt.

It's time the WWE kills Super Punk. We're all sick of him, the ratings keep getting worse and PPV buys keep going down. Punk only knows 6 moves, and he keeps saying the same things over and over on the mic, things which make intelligent fans roll their eyes. Only little kids actually boo him like he's supposed to be booed. He's obviously doing a terrible job as a heel.

I say we start a petition to get the WWE to quit shoving Super Punk down our throats. Who is with me?

You are the main reason why people hate the IWC. First you bitch and moan about getting what you want, and when you do you get tired of it easily and you bitch and moan about not wanting it anymore. Do you want Cena holding the title? Cena holding the title still isn't going to make the ratings any better, it's the overall product. You're entitle to your own opinion, but guys like you shouldn't put it out there. I'm not with you.

I'm ok with Punk being champion for as long as he is now. He plays the heel character very well, he really should get rid of that belt though, bring one that looks like a normal championship belt. Rather have someone who can play their role well shoved down my throat rather than a stale face.

 

[Ryberg]

You were saying something??

Oh, sure, punk has loads of arm-drags, I've seen most his matches over the last few years. That dont impressa me much. Watching him and DB roll around for half an hour was rivetting. Drop kick was the highlight spot of the match. How do you think Cena got to the top of the food chain without the ability to wrestle?? Why do you think millions of people buy his stuff and guys like the rock and austin revere him so highly??

Ryback came from WWE developementals, same as Cena. And ortan. Brock Lesnar. The Rock... you know, those people that are keeping the WWE alive. People that can wrestle.

And by the way, WCW wasnt an indie promotion.

Most importantly though

Spoiler

I was being sarcastic, captain IQ. As was sly when he made the thread. Now are going to continue following me around or have you something better to be at?

Cena got on top BECAUSE he has the roided look VKM loves. Not because he can wrestle, wow you really are one clueless "fan" when it comes to real talent.
UPW

Cena started training to become a professional wrestler in 2000 at the California-based "Ultimate University" operated by Ultimate Pro Wrestling. Once he was placed into an in-ring role, Cena began using a semi-robotic character known as The Prototype.[2][24] Some of this period of his career was documented in the Discovery Channel program Inside Pro Wrestling School.[25] While in UPW, Cena held the UPW Heavyweight Championship for just shy of a month in April 2000.[26]

Ryback was a failed roider in Ohio Valley Wrestling after he didn't make the cut in Tough Enough.

Back in the day WCW was basically an Indie.

 

[Ryberg]

You are the main reason why people hate the IWC. First you bitch and moan about getting what you want, and when you do you get tired of it easily and you bitch and moan about not wanting it anymore. Do you want Cena holding the title? Cena holding the title still isn't going to make the ratings any better, it's the overall product. You're entitle to your own opinion, but guys like you shouldn't put it out there. I'm not with you.

I'm ok with Punk being champion for as long as he is now. He plays the heel character very well, he really should get rid of that belt though, bring one that looks like a normal championship belt. Rather have someone who can play their role well shoved down my throat rather than a stale face.

I agree with you! Punk is doing what a heel is supposed to do, not win cleanly! Cena is stale and Ryback got stale after week one. Cena will not bring up any ratings, ratings are down because of the terrible storylines.

I am one person who is happy they did that ending last night. Though it was an Aces & 8's rip-off with Nexus thrown in, its makes me what to watch to see what happens. I would have watched freaking Cake Boss reruns if they had another drawn out Ryback/Cena vs Punk storyline.

 

[ProWrestlingFan]

On RAW 1000 when Rock said he will compete for the WWE Championship and face CM Punk at the Royal Rumble most people should have known that CM Punk will keep the WWE Championship till Royal Rumble.

Most probably Rock will win the WWE Championship at the Royal Rumble. Maybe Ryback will win the Royal Rumble match and face Rock and Cena at Wrestlemania for the WWE Championship in a Triple Threat match?

I think Jericho said it best, who cares about his reign, or the belt. Put it on a real champion, a believable one.

So Jericho was a very believable champion when he defeated Rock and Austin in the same night? Jericho was a cruiserweight in WCW. If Punk is not believable as champ so is Jericho.

How is it CM Punk gets to win every title match he's in? It's the same thing all the time, where Punk looks like he is about to lose, and then somehow leaves with the title. Punk only has like 6 moves anyway. I, for one, am getting sick of seeing Super Punk hold the title for forever. Not to mention, he keeps carrying around that stupid spinner belt.

I hope Super Punk loses the title soon. Maybe he can lose it to a good wrestler like Ryback, someone who actually looks legitimate in the ring and not some phony. Maybe Ryback can be Punk's kryptonite lol. And then Ryback can come out on Raw the next night, talk about how Super Punk's belt is such a kiddy toy, and bring back a title with prestige, like the Attitude Era belt.

It's time the WWE kills Super Punk. We're all sick of him, the ratings keep getting worse and PPV buys keep going down. Punk only knows 6 moves, and he keeps saying the same things over and over on the mic, things which make intelligent fans roll their eyes. Only little kids actually boo him like he's supposed to be booed. He's obviously doing a terrible job as a heel.

I say we start a petition to get the WWE to quit shoving Super Punk down our throats. Who is with me?

Agreed about the ratings part. But its not Punk's fault that people are not booing him. Its WWE's fault to turn one of the most over faces on their roster heel. Punk was getting cheered more than John Cena, so WWE turned Punk heel so that Cena can be a superhero again with his 5 moves.

Back in the day WCW was basically an Indie.

WCW was bigger than WWF was. Have you even watched WCW?

 

[Cereal Killer]

Well someone's changed their tone today.

Anyway, I agree with you to an extent.
I wouldn't say he had 6 moves, it's just that he uses them more than others which is pretty much what most superstars do today.

Him looking like a phony, well we all know that he is not the best (he's not the best on the mic or in that ring and many people have doubts upon him, from Hulk Hogan to Steve Austin to John cena to....CM Punk. It doesn't work, he's not popular or revolutionary like them), fooled a lot of people in to believing that he will "change" the WWE and looks like a total wuss in the ring.

He needs to toughen up a little because he looks like a weak champion, build up because he looks too small and the creative are the guys that should have win in different ways or make him lose; that's not his fault.

(I DO dislike him at times but Sly, is that you?)

 

[Mantis]

Personally I'm enjoying Punk's reign, but I don't think that is what the thread was made to discuss. It's pointing out the hypocrisy of WWE's fans or more specifically, those based on the Internet. CM Punk has been built in the exact same fashion as John Cena, only difference is they threw a heel turn in there to shake things up. If fans hated Cena, who is easily one of the most consistent performers the company has in-ring, and his WWE Championship reign/reign's, then by virtue you should loathe CM Punk's

If you don't, your a hypocrite, cause when you break it down to its skeleton, the CM Punk year long reign is built in the same structure as John Cena's 380 day reign.

I'm enjoying Punk's reign too, but I don't totally agree with calling people hypocrites for liking Punk's long title reign and hating Cena's. Even though Punk's reign was initially similar to Cena's, the heel turn makes a huge difference, especially when you consider than Cena has been doing the same routine for over 7 years now. And even though Cena's 380 day reign was likely the main reason why fans were sour on him, there were plenty of other reasons.

People didn't like the the "Vanilla Ice" gimmick because a white guy from West Newbury, Mass trying to be a thug made him look like a phony. Fans also disliked his unconventional ring attire and championship belt. And let's not forget the perception, whether it's fair or not, that he can't wrestle.

 

[SinCityBlitz]

I see the point of this thread went over a lot of heads. I get the point but just don't agree.

I never had a problem with the way Cena was built I just never liked the Cena character. The stupid spinner belt and his stupid catch phrases. But he is over so what I like doesn't matter much.

I just find it funny to hear people rip Vince for his taste in physiques and hear them say that Punk is not big enough to be champ. Say what? It doesn't look right? You do realize some of the best fighters are small guys?

WCW was bigger than WWF was. Have you even watched WCW?

Apparently you didn't watch before the Monday Night Wars. WCW at one point in time was as small as TNA is now. There was a ton of talk that it wouldn't last.

 

[Just Do It]

lol @ the notion of "Super Punk" considering:

SummerSlam wasn't involved in the offense win.
Night of Champions resulting in a draw on Cena offense.
HITC: Ref fast count
Survivor Series: Not involved in the offense of victory.

Claiming "Super Punk" would show you don't really have a clue what you are talking about, nor are you understanding of the criticisms of "Super Cena"

 

[WWEIsLife2]

So wait you want CM Punk who has brought so much credibility to the WWE Title for the past year to drop it just like that so you can have your Attitude Era orgasm? Yeah that makes sense,shut up. Yes lets take the Title off the guy who can Wrestle,Talk,and is OVER as hell. Brilliant idea once again from an IWC moron.

 

[Pedigree1]

I have actually enjoyed punk as champion.. Punk i dont believe kisses Vince ass at all. Punk is a heel afterall and wins by all means necessary and we are over just a year from Punks famous shoot on RAW. People still remember that and punk knows way more than six moves in the ring. Dude is a legit badass and i totally respect punk and phil as the same person.

I say let punk run with the title as long as necessary. The man has paid his dues,been overlooked,and time after time has been past over for main event spots on PPVs. Is Punk Stale as champion i dont think so IMHO but others may feel different.

I dont think anyone on here could have predicted what occured last night on survivor series. I just dont want punk to drop the title to a part timer like the rock at the rumble but Punk understands what is good for business! Punk as Champion to me is a helluva lot better than Ryback could be right now. Oh by the way i know it takes two to tangle but that MITB 2011 match im pretty sure there was more than six moves involved by punk!

 

[wooooo]

I didn't mind Cena's initial 8 month reign, just when it happens another couple of times in the same unstoppable fashion you get tired of it, I'm not tired of Punk's reign pretty much because it means Cena doesn't have the belt, pretty sad that it's come to that.

 

[#MrScissorsKick]

The older fans are anti-Cena, the younger fans are anti-Punk. Punk knows only about 6 moves is correct. Punk leans me, meaning one night he'll be solid and i agree with him and other nights i couldn't disagree with him more. He isn't that good of a wrestler, hell I wouldn't even label Punk a wrestler, he is an entertainer. Very few WWE superstars are actually good in the ring, and Punk is not one of them. For you Cena fans, John Cena isn't good in the ring either. I was wishing Punk lose his belt at Extreme Rules or OVer the limit whichever PPV he faced Daniel Bryan at in Punk's hometown. Daniel Bryan is actually much better in the ring than Punk ever will be. However, Punk loves to talk, speak his mind. That has been a big part in CM's rise. Disagree? Look at Shelton Benjamin. Terrible on the mic, definately one of the worst ever. Now, look at what he can do in the ring and wow, he is/was outstanding. I know now that Punk will lose the belt at RR, this sloppy victory over Cena and Ryback paved the way for him to face the rock. Ryback will now feud with the 3 NXT fools and Cena....well i don't know what the WWE has in store for him. Thing is, we'll get to see and hear Punk how he's the best in the world from now until mid to late January. Punk's been super repetitive lately and I bet he will be repetitive until January. I'm not a Punk fan, but I realize 1 year reigns as the top dog in the company are a big deal. We all have to deal with it. The problem I have is that Punk is supposed to be the "bad guy" right? Well why doesn't Punk drop some more "pipebombs" on the WWE so he can confirm his alignment. Punk's been on a solid run since winning the WWE championship in 2011. I'd hate to see anyone stop that streak other than The Rock.

 

[IrishCanadian25]

what an idiot slyfox is cmpunk knows 6 moves yeah sure he does yet your saying about how good ryback is he is terrible and didnt have a clue what to do during last nights match all the mods are idiots on this website if my memory serves me correct your a mod, you obviously know nothing about wrestling if you say punk is boring and has 6 moves, yet your lover ryback is brilliant

Wow, brutal. If Uber-Punk knew that this was how one of his devoted fans wrote, he'd probably turn to drinking and drugs. Punk's 6 moves are STILL less than the number of spelling and grammatical errors in this post. If spelling and grammar errors were a move-set, you'd be Bret Hart.

I found Sly's post enlightening. Punk is bragging about the near-year title reign. That's just insane. How someone can sit through that week after week is beyond me.

Ryback is a beast in the ring. Dude is huge - he's an old school throw back to when professional wrestlers were these larger than life figures who made audience jaws drop. Ryback has more talent than Punk has tattoos.

 

[deslok]

I agree, neither one of them were/are believable champions. Jericho was in later years to me, but not at that time.
Was not inferring however that I thought Jericho was a comparable champion to Austin or Rock. The fact he has comparbale size to punk, and doesn't think much for his reign, is a nice break from all the cheerleading the IWC does for Punk. Do defend his place in history, if anyone would have a hand in wanting Punk to be viewed as credible, it may be Jericho, but I doubt he cares.

 

[DirtyD79]

And what's more that lying sonofabitch didn't get us those WWE ice cream bars! I want my ice cream!

Seriously though I think a large part of why Cena gets bagged on so much and Punk doesn't is because well for one Punk turned heel after a run as a face and two the way he's won his matches lately. It's either through a corrupt ref or by guys beating up Ryback. Another thing is Punk hasn't been the top dog long enough for a lot of people to start getting tired of him.