Are We Watching TNA or ECW?

[KBUnitz]

Ok, I'll be honest with you, when this whole EV 2.0 thing started, I was actually pretty excited, I get to see all the great extremists form the past, but I really thought it would just be a one night thing. I thought it would just be for Hardcore Justice, then they would go back to the bingo halls they came from. But now, as Tommy Dreamer and the others seem to be staying, I'm quickly finding myself wanting to watch WWE instead, to see younger wrestlers who are more talented.

Hardcore Justice, that wasn't a bad PPV, it really wasn't, I found it to be quite interesting. Great to see RVD vs Sabu and Raven vs Dreamer again, but now, apparently at No Surrender, Tommy Dreamer will be facing off against AJ Styles in an "I Quit" match?!?!?! I watch TNA to see the TNA Originals, not the ECW Originals. I watch TNA to see Fortune, not EV 2.0. I watch TNA to see the sexy TNA Knockouts, not washed up retirees that look like they haven't taken a shower in days.

It was fine having Rhino, Raven, and Team 3D here, they built TNA to the point of where it is now. I was excited when RVD came to TNA, but if I knew this is what he would bring, then damn. The addition of RVD, Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, The Sandman, the FBI, etc, etc, is just ridicoulous. No one wants to watch them anymore, maybe 1 night, ok they had their PPV, they renamed it too, now can we go back to watching the GOOD wrestlers of TNA? Can we go back to watching the MCMG, Fortune, Ink Inc., Samoa Joe, Hernandez, The Pope, etc. Can we send all of these extremists away and show what TNA actually has to offer. What about Amazing Red? Brian Kendrick? Max & Jeremy Buck? Orlando Jordan? Suicide? Why not bring back Daniels? Elix Skipper? Judas Mesias? All the other guys that made TNA what it is, I'd rather watch them any day. Hell what about the great Knockouts like Taylor & Hamada? Daffney?

Point is that ECW is the past and what's history should be kept as history, I'm not saying send everyone away, Rhino deserves a spot on the TNA roster, as does Team 3D, but not Tommy Dreamer, not Stevie Richards, hell Homicide deserves a spot on the TNA roster more than those guys. So, send ECW out the door, and show the REAL TNA talent.

 

[its_vader_time]

what was the point in the first place dixe wanted to stick it to vince right ? well what's the point of milking a old nearly dead cow.

I have to force my self to watch tna I mean that. I'm sick of seeing tommy Dreamer EV2.0 I really do want to see TNA not bingo hallers

 

[wrestlingking]

very interesting seeing how probably 75% of TNA's roster is all ex WWE guys. Hell, even AJ Styles was in WWE before he went to TNA. Also, alot of the ECW guys were already under contract to TNA.

 

[Tougie]

All it is, is TNA's booking either

A. Trying to bide time until they think of decent storylines

or

B. They've finally given up.

Trying to get the old ECW fans by doing this isnt going to help TNA at all. The ECW guys are past their prime, some of them never had a prime. A group warfare storyline? Yeah we havent seen that before. Or in WWE as of now with Nexus. And even worse its with a bunch of old, washed up "ECW Stars".

We're watching TNA, unfortunately this is what TNA has become.

 

[its_vader_time]

people will never take TNA seriously if they keep saying stuff like TNA is 70% former wwe or ecw or wcw.

when i thnk of tna I think of somoa joe, jeff jerret not former wwe/wcw jeff but the guy who actually built tna from the ground up I think of fallen angel, MCM, Beer money, AJ Styles

this is the TNA that comes to my mind, like i said for the past few months I've had to force myself to watch TNA because of ECW guys who will never admit they're beyond washed up


look at RVD I get the feeling he's just there for his pot money

 

[pedro316]

if your all upset like i am about the whole ecw thing, tell dixie, send her an email or something, she says she listens to the fans, well lets find out

 

[DangerousDave]

Dixie lied to me, (imagine that) she said it was a one time thing. Now the has beens are on another ppv. The build up to HJ was bad enough & I thought we were rid of them when it was over. TNA has so much good young talent that is being pushed aside to make room for EV2. Now Hogan is relying on the old farts to tame Abyss, which is as good as infering that no one on the TNA roster is good enough to do it. The sooner they get rid of these guys the better. Its no secret I hate Dreamer for his whiney promos, Dixie ass kissing and shitty wrestling. Putting over any of these over the hill guys is a slap in the face to the real TNA roster. I think TNA has dug a hole for themselves that is going to be hard to get out of. Now that they are here how do you get rid of them? If I was booking, I would invite EV2 to the ring and have Fortune & every other TNA guy in the back (like 25 of em) rush the ring and beat them all down to the point that every one of them ended up on a stretcher. Wishful thinking on my part because we are stuck with them now and it sucks.

 

[its_vader_time]

if your all upset like i am about the whole ecw thing, tell dixie, send her an email or something, she says she listens to the fans, well lets find out

that is a LIE not you but wrestling stars who say they listen to fans via email.
if it was that easy imagine thousands of tna fans bitching about ecw. notice i didn't use the word millions ?

the IWC has no say what goes on when it comes to storylines if only it was that easy.

I really want tna to climb high and be sucessful but this whole ecw thing is being milked way too far.

 

[DangerousDave]

if your all upset like i am about the whole ecw thing, tell dixie, send her an email or something, she says she listens to the fans, well lets find out

That is one major problem with TNA, the only email contact they have on their web site is for Shop TNA. Personally, I don't tweet or facebook, so there is no way I can make my feelings known to TNA. They need a feedback email link. There are a lot of threads on WZ where 90% of the posters don't like something, but there is no way to tell TNA directly.

 

[rondiesel2005]

I think the fans who liked the idea before of bringing back ECW originals for one more night are getting to the point where they are like "ok this isn't going to work ECW needs to go. this idea is taking some of the stars that were on the show before than off television to give this guys television time.. if u notice they took off Jay lethal and amazing red. they taking off half of the X division stars to give EV2 some television time..

just like KBUnitz said about the upcoming Pay Per View, AJ Styles Vs Tommy Dreamer in "I quit" match.. when i saw that on the wrestlezone am like why did TNA put them 2 together. Tommy Dreamer can barely move in the ring, like i mention before, he too rusty in the ring.. Since they brought all those guys, i dont care much for them, if they in the ring i change the channel, they dont have anything else to bring to the table..so what happens after all this feud is over what they gonna do after that??? TNA needs to stop trying to run the company like its family and start running it like an actual business!!

 

[its_vader_time]

rondiesel2005 you speak the truth could not have said it better myself. why is dixie so impuslive on keeping tna guys down while ev2.0 gets all the spotlight ? Why is the tna roster putting up with it ? can't they speak up storyline or not.

a good storyline might be ev2.0 turning into a heel faction and take over tna much like the MEM demanding respect only to give the tna roster much needed pushes to drive out EV2.0

 

[wushady]

I don't get why Dixie is putting so much stock in Dreamer and the other ECW originals. Honestly TNA has probably had more success than ECW ever had. ECW never was very successful financially they did go bankrupt after all. ECW had nothing more than a cult following they never were mainstream.

I think most of the original ECW fans have given up hope after the WWECW and moved on. The fans chanting ECW in the Impact zone are TNA fans. Guys like 3D and Raven even Foley have been there a while and have helped TNA to a point.

I think they need to drop this EV2 shit and focus on the talent like Styles, Joe, beer money, and others that have been there busting their ass for TNA. Many in the locker room or pissed and rightfully so that their losing their spots to washed up broken down nobody's.

RVD coming in and winning the TNA world title and did nothing to help TNA in ratings or any money making areas i.e. merchandise, PPV buys. Should have proved ECW is dead. If RVD didn't bring in big changes. There's no way the rest of them will. Dixie needs to take her head out of her ass and realize ECW is dead it wont save TNA.

 

[mrbooker]

Do any of you guys actually watch impact, the whole point of EV2 is to get Fortune over, and the WHOLE STORYLINE is what everyone is saying that EV2 does not belong, that guys like beer money, aj etc... helped build TNA, and thats what Fortune is going to take EV2 out.

Whether people realize it or not EV2 is needed right now for what TNA is trying to do and thats get fortune over. Stables get over two ways holding multiple titles at once, or crushing other stables. If it was not for EV2 everyone would be bitching about how TNA threw a randomn stable of rob terry, jay lethal, hernandez, and INC INK together.

You are not even close to watching ECW, TNA is building Fortune as their company stable, while keeping them away from the WHC, and even putting over MCMG, they will take out EV2, and dont sleep on that 10 second backstage sneak by sting, because i easily can see Fortune dealing with them after EV2, and then going after hogan and bischoff,get rid of everyone and give everyone(atleast those on the post) exactly what they keep saying, making TNA be strictly TNA. Despite the fact that its NOT A GOOD IDEA not yet atleast

 

[DangerousDave]

The fans chanting ECW in the Impact zone are TNA fans.

If you have noticed, there are no more ECW chants in the Impact Zone. No EV2 chants, no EV2 signs (except maybe at No Surender, when I have my "Screw EV2 sign"). The fans in the Impact Zone appear very unimpressed with EV2 and its over the hill wrestlers.

 

[Derrtown]

that is a LIE not you but wrestling stars who say they listen to fans via email.
if it was that easy imagine thousands of tna fans bitching about ecw. notice i didn't use the word millions ?

the IWC has no say what goes on when it comes to storylines if only it was that easy.

I really want tna to climb high and be sucessful but this whole ecw thing is being milked way too far.

Yes they do. Nasty Boyz, Less Hogan and Bischoff, less Jordan, less commercials, etc.

They were all done because people bitched on Eric Bischoff's and Dixie Carter's facebook pages. Sad thing is is that the IWC is too full of themselves to realize this.

 

[Ballin247]

I really am hoping EV2 is used only to job to Fortune and get them over. The way Beer Money squashed FBI was great. I hope at the PPV they make AJ Styles completely dominate that fat cow Dreamer. They should have him quit in like 4 minutes or under. What the fuck business does Tommy Dreamer have on a PPV? They should have like a 8 man tag match and have Fortune completely run through EV2 in 3 minutes as well. Fans still cheer them so it would help get fortune over by completely demolishing fan favorites. Might not be too bad as long as Fortune is shown to completely outclass the bingo hall rejects.

 

[KBUnitz]

Whether people realize it or not EV2 is needed right now for what TNA is trying to do and thats get fortune over. Stables get over two ways holding multiple titles at once, or crushing other stables. If it was not for EV2 everyone would be bitching about how TNA threw a randomn stable of rob terry, jay lethal, hernandez, and INC INK together.

You are not even close to watching ECW, TNA is building Fortune as their company stable, while keeping them away from the WHC

Ok smark, that's believable for WWE, but for TNA writers to make something up like that? And lets say that EV 2.0 is used to get Fourtune over, why use EV 2.0.

I hate comparing WWE to TNA cause I think both are great companies, but lets compare how Nexus got over in the WWE. They attacked Raw superstars individually, Kofi, Edge, Jericho, Cena, Hart, and others. TNA could do the same with Fourtune. Like you said out, there's lots of TNA talent that could be attacked, start with mid carders then main eventers. Attack Rob Terry, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Ink Inc., Eric Young, then go out and attack Kurt Angle, The Pope, Mr. Anderson, MCMG (yes I consider them as main eventers because they could be if given a chance), Rhino (we've seen him main event before), they could turn Kevin Nash & Abyss face with an ambush attack.

There's many ways for Fourtune to get over, this is not one of them.

Another example is the Main Event Mafia, they all had great careers, and they decide to get rid of the TNA Frontline. Originally, the TNA Frontline consisted to TNA Originals, AJ Styles, Daniels, Samoa Joe, etc, then what, all of a sudden, Rhino joins, Team 3D, Consequences Creed, and what even ODB? Did anyone 'bitch' about a random faction like the TNA Front Line? Anyone 'bitch' about (ugh) Team WWE? Why would anyone 'bitch' about another random faction?

 

[VencomHardcore]

Do any of you guys actually watch impact, the whole point of EV2 is to get Fortune over, and the WHOLE STORYLINE is what everyone is saying that EV2 does not belong, that guys like beer money, aj etc... helped build TNA, and thats what Fortune is going to take EV2 out.

Whether people realize it or not EV2 is needed right now for what TNA is trying to do and thats get fortune over. Stables get over two ways holding multiple titles at once, or crushing other stables. If it was not for EV2 everyone would be bitching about how TNA threw a randomn stable of rob terry, jay lethal, hernandez, and INC INK together.

You are not even close to watching ECW, TNA is building Fortune as their company stable, while keeping them away from the WHC, and even putting over MCMG, they will take out EV2, and dont sleep on that 10 second backstage sneak by sting, because i easily can see Fortune dealing with them after EV2, and then going after hogan and bischoff,get rid of everyone and give everyone(atleast those on the post) exactly what they keep saying, making TNA be strictly TNA. Despite the fact that its NOT A GOOD IDEA not yet atleast

COMPLETE HOGWASH ! EV2 can't get anyone over. They are not relavant and They ARE NOT OVER themselves. You forget something. These stars don't need anyone to get them over. They need better storylines and some good ole marketing.

TNA doesn't do the basics to build a brand so they try to rely on old talent to do what they are not willing to. EV2 is a waste of television time. There are plenty of people on the roster that can help you talent without needing tommy, ev2, hogan, nash or sting.

You have anderson, hardy, angle and to some extent foley who can use his promo skills to talk some one up. Hell Don West made Amazing Red exciting. So there are ways to build talent outside the ring. WWE does it all the time.

1) They book the talent to win squash matches and over midcard talent.

2) The announcers talk about how great the talent is and tell a story that is repeated over and over and over.

For example - Alberto Del Rio . We saw promos for weeks that didn't make sense. He debuted against Rey Misterio and won. He attacked Rey this past week. The announcers talk about how great he is. How rich he is. How educated he is. We will hear that story for the next few months and then it will be repeated more.

And yo know what. He is already over with the crowd.

Draws more heat than almost anyone on smackdown. And he has only been on television twice. And has worked house shows and dark matches to create a build up.

It's a very simple formula that TNA doesn't use.

So stick with what works. WWE uses the same formula every time to build talent. They don't hire Old Farts that weren't important to the sport to take tv time.

You use the midcard to build new stars and the Main event to build the mid card to that status. It's not rocket science.

 

[MB1025]

Ok smark, that's believable for WWE, but for TNA writers to make something up like that? And lets say that EV 2.0 is used to get Fourtune over, why use EV 2.0.

I hate comparing WWE to TNA cause I think both are great companies, but lets compare how Nexus got over in the WWE. They attacked Raw superstars individually, Kofi, Edge, Jericho, Cena, Hart, and others. TNA could do the same with Fourtune. Like you said out, there's lots of TNA talent that could be attacked, start with mid carders then main eventers. Attack Rob Terry, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Ink Inc., Eric Young, then go out and attack Kurt Angle, The Pope, Mr. Anderson, MCMG (yes I consider them as main eventers because they could be if given a chance), Rhino (we've seen him main event before), they could turn Kevin Nash & Abyss face with an ambush attack.

There's many ways for Fourtune to get over, this is not one of them.

Another example is the Main Event Mafia, they all had great careers, and they decide to get rid of the TNA Frontline. Originally, the TNA Frontline consisted to TNA Originals, AJ Styles, Daniels, Samoa Joe, etc, then what, all of a sudden, Rhino joins, Team 3D, Consequences Creed, and what even ODB? Did anyone 'bitch' about a random faction like the TNA Front Line? Anyone 'bitch' about (ugh) Team WWE? Why would anyone 'bitch' about another random faction?

Here is why you need EV 2.0 for Fourtune. So your top faces in the company don't have to job to them every week. Could you only imagine the people bitching and moaning if Fourtune was going over MCMG, The Pope, Mr. Anderson, Desmond Wolfe, and a few others every week. We would have threads about young talent getting buried. Believe it or not TNA doesn't have a lot of veterans for these guys to go over against. No one wants to see Hogan and Flair in the ring right? So they only have Jarrett and Nash and neither of them can still go like F.B.I or Richards. Let them keep jobbing to Fourtune and establish dominance. I mean TNA could be like the WWE and have Fourtune job to the veterans if you like. I mean people seem to like that kinda TV for some reason.

 

[gers09]

Ok, I'll be honest with you, when this whole EV 2.0 thing started, I was actually pretty excited, I get to see all the great extremists form the past, but I really thought it would just be a one night thing. I thought it would just be for Hardcore Justice, then they would go back to the bingo halls they came from. But now, as Tommy Dreamer and the others seem to be staying, I'm quickly finding myself wanting to watch WWE instead, to see younger wrestlers who are more talented.

Hardcore Justice, that wasn't a bad PPV, it really wasn't, I found it to be quite interesting. Great to see RVD vs Sabu and Raven vs Dreamer again, but now, apparently at No Surrender, Tommy Dreamer will be facing off against AJ Styles in an "I Quit" match?!?!?! I watch TNA to see the TNA Originals, not the ECW Originals. I watch TNA to see Fortune, not EV 2.0. I watch TNA to see the sexy TNA Knockouts, not washed up retirees that look like they haven't taken a shower in days.

It was fine having Rhino, Raven, and Team 3D here, they built TNA to the point of where it is now. I was excited when RVD came to TNA, but if I knew this is what he would bring, then damn. The addition of RVD, Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, The Sandman, the FBI, etc, etc, is just ridicoulous. No one wants to watch them anymore, maybe 1 night, ok they had their PPV, they renamed it too, now can we go back to watching the GOOD wrestlers of TNA? Can we go back to watching the MCMG, Fortune, Ink Inc., Samoa Joe, Hernandez, The Pope, etc. Can we send all of these extremists away and show what TNA actually has to offer. What about Amazing Red? Brian Kendrick? Max & Jeremy Buck? Orlando Jordan? Suicide? Why not bring back Daniels? Elix Skipper? Judas Mesias? All the other guys that made TNA what it is, I'd rather watch them any day. Hell what about the great Knockouts like Taylor & Hamada? Daffney?

Point is that ECW is the past and what's history should be kept as history, I'm not saying send everyone away, Rhino deserves a spot on the TNA roster, as does Team 3D, but not Tommy Dreamer, not Stevie Richards, hell Homicide deserves a spot on the TNA roster more than those guys. So, send ECW out the door, and show the REAL TNA talent.

You make good point in there it wasn't that long ago the TNA lovers were saying WWE sucks it the same people HHH, jericho, cena etc and they dont use young talent TNA is the best it does the TNA originals the future tna uses them right. Now everything changed WWE using young guys (and better btw) nexus, Sheamus the miz etc they are still using cena, jericho randy but these guys can still draw money TNA using EV2.0 flair hogan guys who were past it in 90s.

 

[naimliss]

well, first off the only actual ecw additions are the dreamer, the fbi and sabu, all the others were already on the roster. so basically they said hey since we brought in a few more ecw guys, why not create a stable. I liked hardcore justice, it was a good ppv but I must agree I don't care about ev2. I never liked the fbi, thats my only complaint. I like dreamer and sabu, I think they put on good matches but the ev2 thing is old and played out like most of the stable is itself. At first I loved the fact that fourtune kicked all their asses but they dropped the ball with that storyline, like one poster previously said that they have to force themselves to watch tna. This thursday I felt the same. TNA is getting fucking boring, I want to watch them but they make it hard to do so. If ev2 is strictly there just to get fourtune over (which I doubt) than fine, thats great but I have a feeling some of these guys are gonna stick around which sucks because it takes away tv time from the real tna guys, I just hope this ev2 crap don't continue after no surrender. where does tna build from this? oh wait, they don't, they drop the ball on all storylines, gotta love tna creative for never being creative. YODEL

 

[arun_is_wrestling]

I do agree. Im getting tired of seeing Ev2.0 That one last stand was great but now, its becoming a weekly thing. Its reasons like that which are upsetting the younger guys. Homicide got demoted and went down to the bottom, now he has left. I want to see real tna talent and i got to see some yesterday with the MCMG vs Gen me Match. For once i was happy that the match didnt start off with an arm drag, then a roll then backflip etc

The match was SOLID! Showcased speed, agility and team work. Showing why Tna does have the tag team division in the top two along with ROH!

That match was awesome and the spot where Gen me did that lucha libre climb onto the ropes going onto that beautiful backflip was INSANE!!

Then the beautiful people, the ones i originally watched, the original beauties, were back and that was a great promo. Reminded me when i watched tna again back in 08.

Then the segment with magnus/wolfe was hilarious!! Those two work great and wwe should take notes to make tag teams like that. Those two were thrown together but they have stuff in common like their home country. Chelsea looked great as always

Back to topic, Tna has some great ideas going for them, but they need to cut down on some of the wrestlers there. Tna is being too nice to the guys who have had their time, its time to move on now.

Ever think wwe was cruel for releasing old stars?

Its because you HAVE TO MOVE ON in a business. Like austin said, "you replace that old gear with a new one, and the machine carries on running."

 

[Reddannihilation]

Ok, I'll be honest with you, when this whole EV 2.0 thing started, I was actually pretty excited, I get to see all the great extremists form the past,

I don't really remember the original ECW calling its wrestlers "extremists" pretty sure that was a WWE term, so I feel no shame in declaring that you sir are pretending to have been around during the original ECW.

but I really thought it would just be a one night thing. I thought it would just be for Hardcore Justice, then they would go back to the bingo halls they came from. But now, as Tommy Dreamer and the others seem to be staying, I'm quickly finding myself wanting to watch WWE instead, to see younger wrestlers who are more talented.

Well then by all means switch on over to see Drew McIntyre, however, when you fall asleep in your chair don't blame me.

Hardcore Justice, that wasn't a bad PPV, it really wasn't, I found it to be quite interesting. Great to see RVD vs Sabu and Raven vs Dreamer again, but now, apparently at No Surrender, Tommy Dreamer will be facing off against AJ Styles in an "I Quit" match?!?!?! I watch TNA to see the TNA Originals, not the ECW Originals.

This bold part is important.

I watch TNA to see Fortune, not EV 2.0. I watch TNA to see the sexy TNA Knockouts, not washed up retirees that look like they haven't taken a shower in days.

So are you saying that since EV2.0 showed up Fourtune hasn't been on tv? Because that is a lie.

It was fine having Rhino, Raven, and Team 3D here, they built TNA to the point of where it is now.

It was fine having old guys from ECW but now it's not fine because, why?

I was excited when RVD came to TNA, but if I knew this is what he would bring, then damn. The addition of RVD, Tommy Dreamer, Stevie Richards, The Sandman, the FBI, etc, etc, is just ridicoulous. No one wants to watch them anymore, maybe 1 night, ok they had their PPV, they renamed it too, now can we go back to watching the GOOD wrestlers of TNA?

Again no one wanted to watch them but people watched them? Facts schmacts amirite?

Can we go back to watching the MCMG, Fortune, Ink Inc., Samoa Joe, Hernandez, The Pope, etc. Can we send all of these extremists away and show what TNA actually has to offer. What about Amazing Red? Brian Kendrick? Max & Jeremy Buck? Orlando Jordan? Suicide? Why not bring back Daniels? Elix Skipper? Judas Mesias? All the other guys that made TNA what it is, I'd rather watch them any day. Hell what about the great Knockouts like Taylor & Hamada? Daffney?

All of these people you claim have dissappeared are still on tv weekly. So moot point if ever there was.

Point is that ECW is the past and what's history should be kept as history, I'm not saying send everyone away, Rhino deserves a spot on the TNA roster, as does Team 3D, but not Tommy Dreamer, not Stevie Richards,

So why does Rhino deserve a spot but not Dreamer? That's the question.

hell Homicide deserves a spot on the TNA roster more than those guys. So, send ECW out the door, and show the REAL TNA talent.

I'm stilll unsure as to which non-ECW wrestlers are being given the cold shoulder here? I've seen guys like AJ and Pope quite often lately.

Ok smark, that's believable for WWE, but for TNA writers to make something up like that? And lets say that EV 2.0 is used to get Fourtune over, why use EV 2.0.

Why not? Who else should they use?

I hate comparing WWE to TNA cause I think both are great companies, but lets compare how Nexus got over in the WWE. They attacked Raw superstars individually, Kofi, Edge, Jericho, Cena, Hart, and others.

Yeah and no one cared.

TNA could do the same with Fourtune.

So TNA should build a faction then have them lose their first big match? No thanks.

Like you said out, there's lots of TNA talent that could be attacked, start with mid carders then main eventers. Attack Rob Terry, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Ink Inc., Eric Young, then go out and attack Kurt Angle, The Pope, Mr. Anderson, MCMG (yes I consider them as main eventers because they could be if given a chance), Rhino (we've seen him main event before), they could turn Kevin Nash & Abyss face with an ambush attack.

And then we could have you in here telling us how TNA is ripping off the WWE.

There's many ways for Fourtune to get over, this is not one of them.

Fortune should get over by attacking people, because it suck when they attack people. Make up your mind. Fourtune attacking EV2.0 makes sense, they feel they've been over looked by TNA management. They couldn't spin that same storyline if they attack Amazing Red or Pope. It makes no sense. Instead have them attack the interlopers who showed up out of nowhere and took over. Makes perfect sense.

Another example is the Main Event Mafia, they all had great careers, and they decide to get rid of the TNA Frontline. Originally, the TNA Frontline consisted to TNA Originals, AJ Styles, Daniels, Samoa Joe, etc, then what, all of a sudden, Rhino joins, Team 3D, Consequences Creed, and what even ODB? Did anyone 'bitch' about a random faction like the TNA Front Line?

The point of the TNA frontline was to give someone the MEM to dominate. The whole point of the MEM storyline was to show the TNA guys had to work together and get on the same page to beat them. It worked.

Anyone 'bitch' about (ugh) Team WWE? Why would anyone 'bitch' about another random faction?

What's your point here? I don't get it.

 

[Yomommma]

Do any of you guys actually watch impact, the whole point of EV2 is to get Fortune over, and the WHOLE STORYLINE is what everyone is saying that EV2 does not belong, that guys like beer money, aj etc... helped build TNA, and thats what Fortune is going to take EV2 out.

Whether people realize it or not EV2 is needed right now for what TNA is trying to do and thats get fortune over. Stables get over two ways holding multiple titles at once, or crushing other stables. If it was not for EV2 everyone would be bitching about how TNA threw a randomn stable of rob terry, jay lethal, hernandez, and INC INK together.

You are not even close to watching ECW, TNA is building Fortune as their company stable, while keeping them away from the WHC, and even putting over MCMG, they will take out EV2, and dont sleep on that 10 second backstage sneak by sting, because i easily can see Fortune dealing with them after EV2, and then going after hogan and bischoff,get rid of everyone and give everyone(atleast those on the post) exactly what they keep saying, making TNA be strictly TNA. Despite the fact that its NOT A GOOD IDEA not yet atleast

Well, Fortune just shows the ******ed logic in which TNA is booked. 7 guys running around holding up 4 fingers. Really?!? Why, because the syllable "for" is in their name?.....I think an actual ****** would see how illogical that is.....or LAME....just like EV2 ....

All of a sudden these jobbers..yes Dreamer, Richards, Raven...are all were all jobbers in every company that counts...are good enough to be on screen with legitimate wrestlers...... ECW was for lame drug addicts and alcoholics to watch late at night ...full of shitty spots where they jumped through tables and botched them half the time. .....AND that was 15 years ago....most of those losers who were devoted to ECW are now 30 year old unemployed white trash who can't afford cable to watch their has-been heroes.....and the rest post here preaching how great ECW was.

Oh, and ratings DO show how popular something is...the higher the rating = more people watching...simple. I know some of you like to argue otherwise.

 

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Ok smark, that's believable for WWE, but for TNA writers to make something up like that? And lets say that EV 2.0 is used to get Fourtune over, why use EV 2.0.

I hate comparing WWE to TNA cause I think both are great companies, but lets compare how Nexus got over in the WWE. They attacked Raw superstars individually, Kofi, Edge, Jericho, Cena, Hart, and others. TNA could do the same with Fourtune. Like you said out, there's lots of TNA talent that could be attacked, start with mid carders then main eventers. Attack Rob Terry, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Ink Inc., Eric Young, then go out and attack Kurt Angle, The Pope, Mr. Anderson, MCMG (yes I consider them as main eventers because they could be if given a chance), Rhino (we've seen him main event before), they could turn Kevin Nash & Abyss face with an ambush attack.

There's many ways for Fourtune to get over, this is not one of them.

Another example is the Main Event Mafia, they all had great careers, and they decide to get rid of the TNA Frontline. Originally, the TNA Frontline consisted to TNA Originals, AJ Styles, Daniels, Samoa Joe, etc, then what, all of a sudden, Rhino joins, Team 3D, Consequences Creed, and what even ODB? Did anyone 'bitch' about a random faction like the TNA Front Line? Anyone 'bitch' about (ugh) Team WWE? Why would anyone 'bitch' about another random faction?

Your comparing apples and oranges Nexus is a bunch of prospects, Fortune is a group of former title holders in the TNA, with Aj being a current one and rick flair their to co-sign. Having a arguably the best wrestler in all of TNA Aj styles, the best power tag-team in Beer money, the biggest man on the roster in Matt Morgan, and then kaz and doug williams just cuz would do not a damn thing if they went and started taking out randomn guys

it wouldnt matter because with the exception of samoe joe, kurt, jeff hardy, anderson, and pope it wouldnt be all that surprising to see Fortune beast on anyone in the TNA locker room, they are better more dominate onscreen characters then everyone else, and TNA isnt going to let their top 5 stars just job to fortune of top with the chance of it not having the impact they wanted then you just made all of the WHC contenders job to a stable

"Attack Rob Terry, Jay Lethal, Hernandez, Ink Inc., Eric Young" who is going to care thats like hollywood hogan attacking disco inferno, or Undertaker attacking Santino there is no effect because my 6 year old brother can tell who is more dominant.

Nexus was a bunch of no-names coming off a 3rd string show trying to make a name for themselves so yea when there taking out former IC champs its going to look good. If nexus was a bunch of former WHC, IC, and Tag team champs u wouldnt look twice at it.

EV2 is just bait to see if fans can love, hate, or love to hate Fortune before they decide to let Fortune go nuts on hogan, sting, nash, and the WHC contenders. Its a mad move to just let Fortune go over top wrestlers or top names in the company because if fans arent amped about it you just made a WHC contender look like a no one, and a legend job for no reason.

EV2 has enough storyline of being in Aj's house and ruining up his electric bill because they want limelight, at least in fortunes point of few. thats more then enough to warrant a feud, as Fortune is playing the role of originals, of building TNA and EV2 are stealing there air time on thier show. EV2 will be one of the very many attempted extractions in TNA to get rif of the old and in with the new from Fortune until they are left ruling TNA if they can get heat. This whole storyline is essential what people have been asking for to get ride of the old guys so the young guys can get some air time, dispite what critics say TNA is killing them off one by one with Fortune

Thank you for trying though never been a smark its called WATCHING THE SHOW wrestling is the most basic concept to understand if you would stop over thinking on how it could be better.