Are they burying The Miz?

[Hourani777]

I know he is still just starting in the main event and he still has time to develop into one of the top stars, but lately they have been booking him terribly the Miz/Riley feud has all been one side he is on a losing streak he hasnt one on a ppv since Wrestlemania they dont give him as much air time as they used to it feels like all there work to boost him up to the Main Event has all been switch to Alex Riley.


What are your thoughts on this?

 

[#hamler]

Nah, they're not really burying him.

They are definitely giving him screen time on RAW each week to progress the storyline with Alex Riley. Hell, they just had him on the infamous Piper's Pit a couple weeks ago. The Miz is doing his job of putting over a younger talent. To say he hasn't won a PPV match since Wrestlemania doesn't mean much. He is still one of the top heels on the RAW roster and is doing a fine job in his role of putting his former lackey, Alex Riley over. He's not being buried just because he's not in the main event all the time, he doing something very relevant at the moment. He's far from being buried.

 

[Ming]

No, not at all.

He putting Riley over in what's been a pretty good feud. I think that Cena will carry the WWE Championship all the way to Wrestlemania 28 without dropping it, so I'm curious as to when he'll actually return to the main event picture because I don't think we'll see Miz vs Cena again for a while.

 

[rondiesel2005]

You know I think this is what the fans are thinking about right now because of the way he been Booked. I was watching carefully to how they book The Miz, he is cocky and cheats to win while he was WWE champion. after he lost it it looks like the fans sees him as if he lost steam. Its because of all the attention on him and all the focus on him like he a top heel in the WWE but WWE should have let him beat Alex Riley at the pay per view that way it makes him look strong instead of looking week.

I don't think they are burying him. They made it seems like he a weak heel who will cheat to win a match, that is what heels do

 

[Midnite Express 2009]

He's not being buried, but not everyone can be on top all the time, er-ah unless your name is John Cena smh...They're simply putting him in a new program. Hardly a burial. Shoot, I'd rather see Miz against Alex Riley than Cena bs'n around with R-Truth & I don't even like Miz all like that. Sooner or later though, he'll probably float back up toward the top. Until then, he's just where he is.

 

[Papa Zapatista]

It's funny. The IWC complains that WWE isn't putting over new talent, and that the main event picture is stale. Then when they take one of their ME'ers and use him to put over new talent, the IWC accuse the E of burying him. Internet fans will never be satisfied, which is why the wrestling business really doesn't appreciate our opinions. =\

Anyways, they are not burying him at all. There was an article a month or two ago about how Vince still has big plans for Miz this year, even though he won't be champion again for quite awhile. We see that with his fued against Alex Riley. It's clear that Riley is becoming a very big star. He's got a good theme, decent pops, and the crowd chants his name in nearly every match he's been in since turning face. If I do have one gripe, it's that Riley has won all of the encounters thus far. I suppose it's not that unusual -- babyfaces appear to go over heels much more often than they did in the Attitude Era -- but it doesn't create a very compelling storyline if the Villain doesn't present a credible challenge to the Hero.

They just need to adjust the booking a little. Let Miz go over Riley at least once, even if it's just a non-match beatdown backstage.

 

[Rampage Bentley]

Haha really? He hasn't won a PPV match since mania and you think he's being buried? Before CM Punk beat Mysterio at the last PPV, he hadn't won one since Extreme Rules LAST YEAR!

A heel's job is to ultimately get faces over, so no he's not being jobbed out... although I wish he was.

 

[H33LTurn]

I didnt really expect them to book him the way they've been booking him post-Wrestlemania but theyre not exactly burrying him. I think WWE noticed that they pushed him to the top way too fast and are finding the appropiate spot for him on the program and building up Alex Riley at the same time. I wish the rivalry would get more air time but nevertheless they're helping the Miz charcter by keeping him away from the WWE title for a while. Miz had his run and things are back to normal. I think the only thing they did wrong was letting Riley get a clean win over Miz since storylinewise Miz taught Riley everything he knows. Its just odd to have the student beat the teacher on his first try. It would've been more suitable if Riley had the meltdown that he did but taken it further to the point where a match is made but the two have to keep away from eachother until the day of the match. Then have Miz beat Riley in a very close match. The two then have a rematch and Riley wins the match thanks to the help of a manager like Piper, since he's already involved. Then Miz can turn his attention to Piper, beat him, and re-establish himself as a dominant force while Riley uses the boost from that match to fight for and win the US title. This story writes itself. Just because its hit a few bumps doesnt mean the WWE cant get the best from these two amazing talents.

 

[The Future Rises]

Obviously, you don't get on here often. There was a post here on WZ that Vince McMahon still has high hopes for The Miz, and that he's gonna be the one facing Triple H at next year's Wrestlemania, so to answer your question no, they're not burying The Miz. they're just pushing Alex Riley as this total badass who can't stand The Miz because of the way he was treated, The Miz is still very credible and this shouldn't be considered a depush.

 

[bEEjX]

No, not even close. At the moment he's putting over Riley. Just a couple months ago he WON THE MAIN EVENT AT WRESTLEMANIA AGAINST CENA! Some of the greatest of all time have never been in the Main Event at Mania, let alone win. Quit complaining. He'll be back in the Main Event picture once Punk takes some time off. Wouldn't be surprised to see him win the MITB July 17th.

 

[Mac Attack]

I know he is still just starting in the main event ?

Really, you do know this right?

Considering that the first line of the OP is I know he is starting in the main event and you ask is he getting buried? Come on man. If you are in the main event you are not being buried at all not one bit. Someone who is getting buried in the WWE right now would be Tyson Kidd who hasn't won a match in weeks and he is jobbing to jobbers. Being in the Main Event in now way shape or form is jobbing. He is getting good T.V time, is still relevant and is still awesome.

and he still has time to develop into one of the top stars,

Your absolutely wrong here. Right now he is the the top star. He is arguably the second best heel at the moment, being slighly edged out by CM Punk. He is a top star in the company and will continue to be even more a top star.

but lately they have been booking him terribly the Miz/Riley feud has all been one side he is on a losing streak

Hmm do you recall the Bryan vs Miz feud from one yeat ago. Same booking and it catapaulted the Miz into the ME. So saying that this is terrible is not so.

he hasnt won on a ppv since Wrestlemania

Hmm so by my count that would be in a Triple Threat Steel Cage match in which Cena won, a I Quit Match in which Cena won, and a Singles match in which Riley won. What's not said is that he looked amazing in all of these matches.

they dont give him as much air timeas they used to it feels like all there work to boost him up to the Main Event has all been switch to Alex Riley.

Wait a second here. He doesn't get as much air time, and they're giving it to Riley but Miz is feuding with Riley so how is he not on T.V? You just contradicted yourself in your own post.

 

[Brahma Bull]

they are doing what they do to every new main eventer. almost every guy that wins the title for the first time, puts people over afterwards. punk did it with people like r-truth. swagger did it for morrison. sheamus did it for bourne and morrison. after winning the title, they can start putting others over, and the wwe does not have to hurt their already established main eventers, while using the newly fresh and exciting main eventers to put others over. the miz (as much as i think he sucks) will probably be back in the main event before the next wrestlemania. he'll probably have another title reign within the year. all the names i mentioned before (with the exception of the mistake swagger, all stayed in the main event after putting others over.)

 

[Cena's #1 In My Heart]

Hopefully.

They're so many more talented wrestlers on the roster than him.

Seriously... The Miz makes me KNOW I could be an awesome pro wrestler.. because he is nothing but average... shit if I worked out as long as he had I'd look just like him, maybe be a little taller. And I'd be cooler.

There are guys like.. CM Punk, Alberto Del Rio, R-Truth... and many more who deserve to hold the WWE Championship instead of The Miz.

So yeah.. I hope they are burying him with talent that should have never been below The Miz in the first place.

I don't hate The Miz, I find him somewhat entertaining from time to time... I also find him somewhat annoying from time to time.

And tell me.. before he hits his finisher... is he trying to fly away?

 

[amishpyrate]

I think he's getting a huge push right now. The way i see it, anytime a wrestler is feuding with his "body guard"/lackey is a great sign of being main event to the wwe. Jericho did it with that black guy, shawn michaels with diesel...... there's more but it's late and I'm tired. Does anybody else get what I mean?

 

[Mac Attack]

Hopefully.

They're so many more talented wrestlers on the roster than him.?

Really? The word talented gets thrown around a lot in these types of threads. Let's overview the Miz's talent shall we. IN-Ring Abilty is average, Promo giving is awesome, promoting wrestling is awesome. So averaging those all out you have an overall great talent by my standards.

Seriously... The Miz makes me KNOW I could be an awesome pro wrestler..

I dare you try it out. I know I have and it is hard as hell to do properly without getting hurt or without getting someone else hurt. You have to be dedicated in order to succeed and that's what the Miz is. He is full of dedication.

because he is nothing but average... shit if I worked out as long as he had I'd look just like him, maybe be a little taller. And I'd be cooler.

Your clearly talking about his overall wrestling ability. However with that being said he has worked some excellent matches with average ability. You think you could do that. Good for you.

There are guys like.. CM Punk, Alberto Del Rio, R-Truth... and many more who deserve to hold the WWE Championship instead of The Miz.

Why? What have they done to promote the WWE? What have they done to get in Vince's good graces? Let's see Punk is currently shooting on his own comapny, that's champion quality, Alberto, i don't see what's so good about him, the best thing about him was Ricardo if you ask me, Truth, now you are just name dropping. Truth is 39 and will never be a successful ME.

So yeah.. I hope they are burying him with talent that should have never been below The Miz in the first place.

Wait you are saying that Alex Riley should have started off beyond Main Event. He is so green at the moment he should start of midcard if anything.

I don't hate The Miz, I find him somewhat entertaining from time to time... I also find him somewhat annoying from time to time.

This shows the success of a good heel. Just proves Miz is about average.

And tell me.. before he hits his finisher... is he trying to fly away

It's his set up. Edge had the hair pull and the what I call Rhino dance, Miz has his bird moments. It's all in a heel repetoire.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

I don't think they are burying the Miz at all. At any given time they can only give attention to a small handful of guys without spreading themselves too thin. Generally those guys are the champion, the challenger, and whoever is next in line. Right now John Cena and CM Punk are the main event scene and Alberto del Rio seems to be next in line. The Miz had one of the most dynamic championship runs in recent history and retained at WrestleMania. He also held himself up in a program with the Rock and John Cena and proved he could hang with them (to some extent).

As for his match with Alex Riley, I actually think they made the right call in letting A-Ry pick up the victory in their first match. The reaction that Riley got on Raw every time he took down the Miz was a shock, and they capitalized on it in a decent match at the last PPV and let him get the win. If the Miz had won, I think people would have had the exact same reaction: Riley should have won, now he's being buried!

Also, it's Money in the Bank time, which means that they have to promote 6-8 guys for a single match. They can let the Miz coast for a month while they build up guys like Dolph Ziggler, Alex Riley, and Kofi Kingston. The Miz's name speaks for itself at this point, and they don't need to give him wins to cement his place in the ladder match. However, I really think following the PPV he needs to get a decent program. Probably not for the WWE title, but if he could feud with a top tier talent and work his way back into the title scene, that would be great!

 

[Pedigree1]

Now we all know no one can be in the main event all the time isnt that right john cena!! But as far as the miz goes for now hes where hes at!!! he will be in the main event soon enough i promise yah!! I liked the miz being champion thought he did a excellent job as a heel getting people to boo him hate him!!! It was a nice change of pace not seeing super cena as champion!! The feud hes in with A-Ri is cool!! You know the whole mentor thing A-Ri beating up the bully the Miz!! The miz is not being buried he still draws boos ratings he was in pipers pit not that long ago!!

 

[Mustang Sally]

They aren't burying him.....it just seems that way in comparison to the massive push he received in recent months. Jeez, it seemed as if they were ready to turn the whole company over to him. Yes, WWE needs to build new stars, but when you look back at Miz's reign as champion, the enormity of his featured status becomes apparent.

Personally, I like Miz (somewhat) but feel WWE was shoving him down our throats for the longest time. He wrestles pretty well and talks pretty well, but I never felt he was worthy of the exposure given him.

Okay, so now he's dropped back to the pack a bit. In my opinion, he sooner belongs there than at the top of the heap.

 

[LoudClearVoice]

Are you kidding? They're not burying him. From all reports I've heard, Vince loves the Miz and in a fairly recent interview said they had "big plans" for the Miz. He's not being buried, he's actually putting over Alex Riley.

Once they finish up with the Miz/Riley feud, he'll be right back in the spotlight, my guess is he'll feud with Jericho if Jericho comes back as a face.

 

[martymcfly]

I don't think there's much to say that hasn't already been said. Throughout his run in the main event picture, Miz was given the role of someone who was not very good and was incapable of winning matches on his own. Now that Riley's gone, that has become even more obvious. From a behind the scenes perspective, probably they realized they had been pushing him much too fast so they are letting him slow down and get better in the ring. In the meantime, his win/loss record is not that important since he gets plenty of TV time, regardless. So no, not being buried. If he shows up on superstars, then that would be a different story.

 

[Rayne]

Ow, ow, ow. In between the people who don't know how they've been sucked in to buying Miz as a heel (oh, but yeah, you hate him as a performer, wink wink), and the people who are afraid Miz is getting buried because he's not getting a HHH sized push, you folks may have just given me a migraine.

The man is on live television every week. He's currently doing what so many people preach on and on about- building the new guys- but are too damned dumb to notice when a new guy is being built. (That's saying something, because it's not exactly a subtle process.) The championship picture is like sex; there's only room for two, and if the timing's right, sometimes three or four. In a party with seventy, eighty people and one bedroom, not everyone's going to get down every time. Most of the party doesn't even get to see the bedroom door.

So, in answer, absolutely not, and you should feel foolish for asking.

 

[D-Man]

Are you serious?? You think Miz is being "buried"? Do you know what that even means??? I swear, every poster on this site that talks about someone being "buried" is a total moron.

First of all, the Miz is ONE FEUD removed from being WWE champion. This feud is with Alex Riley for obvious reasons. Alex was due to be detached from the Miz and was in line for a push. Since the Miz was white hot coming off his WWE championship feud, the WWE decided to use him to elevate Riley and to turn him babyface. Now, as a result of the feud, Riley is a white hot babyface. And we can all thank the Miz for that.

In order for Riley to get his push, he actually needed to win a few matches against the Miz. But, according to moronic IWC posters and smarks, losing a match automatically equals burial of a superstar. I can't facepalm any harder whenever I read those types of assumptions and posts. Just because wrestler loses a match, that doesn't mean they got buried. Now, if said wrestler lost every match they were in for months at a time after coming off a major push, THAT'S being buried. The Miz lost only a few matches over the course of not even a month. He's nowhere close to being buried. He's merely using his star power to elevate another new superstar and it's obviously working.

 

[Calderownz]

No, in truth, it's buying time, in my opinion.

He's helping get Riley over, but that's the business. He helped you get over, you help him get over. It's actually working perfectly.

As far as buying time, that's what they're doing. The Miz was in the title picture for the better part of a year. Either chasing the title or keeping the championship. So, now, they are refreshing him for his next run at the top. So, so long as that is the plan (and if they're smart, it will be, in my opinion), he'll be fine. Just has to keep buying time and plugging away.

 

[Toroc102]

You guys are jumping all over the thread starter, but I think he has a point. I mean WWE is doing a lot of things differently lately, but classicly, I'd say he's getting buried.

Lets look at some precedent within the past year though. Jack Swagger got a title run and was subsequently buried(although I don't think he's a main eventer anyway). Wade Barrett got that massive push last year, then BAM, John Cena beat him at TLC and he's been getting buried since. Someone mentioned CM Punk not being buried just because he finally got this one big storyline last week, but lets not forget what it was about, it was about him being buried. Kane was face for a long time before they decided to push him last year, til he lost the title and now things are same with him as they ever were.

Back to The Miz(who I also don't quite think is a Main-Eventer), when has the "winner" at Wrestlemania ever gone downhill this fast. I mean, I think this storyline with Alex Riley is perfect for him, not for someone who just Main-Evented WM. How many matches has Alex Riley even been in? Miz is getting squashed by a rookie man. Even if this is to elevate Alex Riley, he's been on top of this feud since it started. Normally the heel gets to do some vicious shit to the face before the face eventually starts gaining the upper hand.

Whether he's Main Event material or not, he did have momentum behind him as Wade Barrett did and now its getting squashed. After years of WWE doing things very slowly, they are now fast tracking everything, and it started with Sheamus. I'm not saying that I don't want to see new faces at the top, its just that WWE went from one extreme to the other. It seems like with the amount of talent thats been leaving the WWE lately, they're throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what sticks. Think about it, Sheamus' biggest claim to fame before the title was ending Jamie Noble's career. R-Truth went from a Santino type level to feuding for the title. Barrett was a rookie.

I feel sometimes like Vince does this just to prove the IWC wrong, like hey you wanted us to push new guys now we're doing it and you're not responding.

 

[xg311]

To me it's not that the Miz is being buried (as it's not close to that) but rather they've taken their foot of the gas pedal in terms of keeping him right in the thick of the WWE Title hunt.

Right now Miz is in an important part of his career, of being able to carry a feud and putting someone else over as a legitimate threat. I think he's done well with Riley so far even though the booking has gone down in the last few weeks between the two.

I think the feud gets its blowoff at Summerslam and hopefully we'll have a match between the two that people will remember and say "The Miz helped turn Alex Riley into a star that night."