ianrapleyuk
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Only in the wwe can you get fired for a altercation with someone backstage BUT if you get caught stealing from wallmart or get a DUI your job is safe
Alberto Del Rio Released
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4realpeoples
Recently returned from hiatus
It's too bad for Del Rio that he did whatever it did to get himself fired. He was one of the people that was on television every week even if he wasn't in a storyline. WWE actually thought he had value. And his value was his amazing in-ring work. I don't know the details of the situation nor does it really matter. Assaulting an employee of the WWE is a huge no-no and regardless of what provoked Del Rio he got what is supposed to happen in that situation. It kind of sucks that we don't get to see him anymore but I'm not necessarily going to miss him either. It really is a horrible situation and nobody ended up winning in this scenario.
Oh Jesus I'm laughing my ass off here. He was released for "unprofessional conduct and an altercation with an employee". Christ at the keyboard, talk about the height of irony.
Was never a fan of his, good technically in the ring, personality of a door knob, and I won't miss him for let's see more than two seconds.
Okay already forgot him, moving on.
Was never a fan of his, good technically in the ring, personality of a door knob, and I won't miss him for let's see more than two seconds.
Okay already forgot him, moving on.
I cant say I am surprised by this,but at the same token I am surprised by this.. ADR was widely known to be a well a tad arrogant and actually injure talent on Live Television.. Trust me on this one,this is not a work at all..
Rumors are flying around,if if if he actually assaulted someone in the Social Media Dept,then this firing was completely justified.. It sucks,ADR is an incredible talent but he himself already has said,when his contract was up he was going to walk away..
With the Budget cuts the WWE has been making as of late,this might be a cost saving measure..
Jacks rumors make sense,and i actually this was my first thought.. And this one thought is my opinion only.. Something is off just a tad,why would ADR get fired if he did indeed slap or assault someone in the Media Dept,what mgmt would call a lower guy.. If ADR barked at Trips or Vince and by barking I mean really showing his teeth,then maybe that reason and the supposed slapping of a media person,makes sense!
I think in the coming days,the truth will come out.. For now all we can do is speculate
Rumors are flying around,if if if he actually assaulted someone in the Social Media Dept,then this firing was completely justified.. It sucks,ADR is an incredible talent but he himself already has said,when his contract was up he was going to walk away..
With the Budget cuts the WWE has been making as of late,this might be a cost saving measure..
Jacks rumors make sense,and i actually this was my first thought.. And this one thought is my opinion only.. Something is off just a tad,why would ADR get fired if he did indeed slap or assault someone in the Media Dept,what mgmt would call a lower guy.. If ADR barked at Trips or Vince and by barking I mean really showing his teeth,then maybe that reason and the supposed slapping of a media person,makes sense!
I think in the coming days,the truth will come out.. For now all we can do is speculate
No Count Pup
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Randy Orton has never been released. Steve Austin and Dustin Rhodes had domestic abuse issues, and are featured prominently. Pat Patterson and Jerry Lawler were subject to harassment allegations, yet are still employed. Vader slapped a reporter. He was released. Wait, no he wasn't!
If Del Rio assaulted a person, it's bad. But no worse than the aforementioned! Del Rio should be able to return. Sid repeatedly stabbed Arn Anderson with scissors. Didn't matter. He was still hired by WWE and given two world title reigns.
If Del Rio assaulted a person, it's bad. But no worse than the aforementioned! Del Rio should be able to return. Sid repeatedly stabbed Arn Anderson with scissors. Didn't matter. He was still hired by WWE and given two world title reigns.
all those things you mentioned happened more than 10 years ago, get with the times, the world and wwe is a different place now. and also none of those things happened backstage to an employee of wwe.
Don't forget Big Show roughed up someone who did an interview with him at an event which ultimately led to the guy trying to sue Big Show and WWE.
On the flip side Jim Cornette smacked a wrestler in developmental multiple times and ended up getting fired for it.
Who knows what the WWE's reasoning for anything is. Maybe they didn't want to go through another lawsuit.
There's no way this is a work. WWE posted this on the main page of their website. Did they mention Triple H, Stephanie, or The Authority? No. There's no way they do something like this, if it's not 100% real.
I get the feeling one or two things happened or a combination of both. 1. WWE wanted to send a hard and stern message about a zero tolerance policy for physical abuse on other employees, so they posted vague details about Del Rio's release to make an example out of him, because you have to believe they would do their best to keep something like this a secret in fear of airing dirty laundry.
2. Del Rio was already skating on thin ice. He wasn't living up to expectations, or he must've pissed off the wrong people backstage for one reason or another. WWE was looking for a reason to get rid of him, and they found a perfect opportunity.
Maybe the underlying details will come out in time, but one thing's for sure, this is one release, where you can't pull the "WWE dropped the ball" card. Alberto Del Rio received a handful of strong pushes including a MITB win, world title runs, he won the Royal Rumble, he feuded with top guys including Punk and Cena, and WWE put a lot of time and effort into his debut with all the Mexican aristocrat vignettes, but Del Rio always had trouble getting over with the fans as a heel or a face. Sure, he would gain some momentum every now and then (i.e. defeating Big Show for the WHC), but Del Rio's momentum would quickly fizzle out in a matter of weeks.
Alberto Del Rio was a massive flop, and there's no way around it. He consistently delivered inside the ring, but Del Rio couldn't justify or measure up to all the hype and the big pushes with his overall body of work.
I get the feeling one or two things happened or a combination of both. 1. WWE wanted to send a hard and stern message about a zero tolerance policy for physical abuse on other employees, so they posted vague details about Del Rio's release to make an example out of him, because you have to believe they would do their best to keep something like this a secret in fear of airing dirty laundry.
2. Del Rio was already skating on thin ice. He wasn't living up to expectations, or he must've pissed off the wrong people backstage for one reason or another. WWE was looking for a reason to get rid of him, and they found a perfect opportunity.
Maybe the underlying details will come out in time, but one thing's for sure, this is one release, where you can't pull the "WWE dropped the ball" card. Alberto Del Rio received a handful of strong pushes including a MITB win, world title runs, he won the Royal Rumble, he feuded with top guys including Punk and Cena, and WWE put a lot of time and effort into his debut with all the Mexican aristocrat vignettes, but Del Rio always had trouble getting over with the fans as a heel or a face. Sure, he would gain some momentum every now and then (i.e. defeating Big Show for the WHC), but Del Rio's momentum would quickly fizzle out in a matter of weeks.
Alberto Del Rio was a massive flop, and there's no way around it. He consistently delivered inside the ring, but Del Rio couldn't justify or measure up to all the hype and the big pushes with his overall body of work.
also when dr d slapped john stossel backstage dr d was fired so the precedent had been set
No Count Pup
Just call on me brother
The issue is "unprofessional conduct." Who cares if that conduct is with an employee?
Get with the times? Logic is timeless... and not subject to whims.
the wwe is a public company now, times have changed whether you like it or not. all the things you named didnt happen in the wwe they happened elsewhere, arn sid was in wcw, dusty and austin was in their homes. last time someone got slapped backstage was dr d and he was fired too.
No Count Pup
Just call on me brother
I know getting the last word is important to you. You can have it, it means nothing. My final comment is this:
Athletes regularly make dumb decisions across pro sports. They don't get released. Heck, some are even charged and convicted of crimes, and they return no problem. Look at the NFL and NBA. Happens all the time. Slapping an employee is small potatoes compared to what other athletes do today, and what prominently featured wrestlers have done in the past.
IvotedforKodos
Dontblameme
As someone who has worked in human resources for companies in the past, an employer is concerned with your at work behavior--whatever personal or domestic demons you might have--well, that's your business. But if you do something in the work place, the employer has to react or could face consequences. Del Rio--even as an independent contractor--strikes a WWE employee, he has crossed a line. That is assault and he has created an unsafe work environment. If WWE does not firmly react, the guy who was hit has got a law suit against Del Rio and the 'E. I would imagine, the public announcement is under advisement of counsel. If you're trying to distance yourself as a company from an individual, you don't wish them well in their future endeavors. They are also setting a precedence for Del Rio's counter suit when he says that he had a contract.
There's no way that this is a work. Del Rio was a solid wrestler, but every time he came on I hit the fast forward button.
If they get rid of babyface Sheamus, than I wouldn't fast forward at all.
There's no way that this is a work. Del Rio was a solid wrestler, but every time he came on I hit the fast forward button.
If they get rid of babyface Sheamus, than I wouldn't fast forward at all.
WarroBODFan
Doink Stan
Just when I was finally changing my opinion on the guy and was starting to enjoy his in-ring work. I was never going to be a fan of his, and the majority of the time I found him a little boring, but for whatever reason in the last few weeks I was enjoying his in-ring work a lot more than before. I don't see this being an angle, ADR and the WWE are done.
Winds-Of-Change
Occasional Pre-Show
Personally, I liked Del Rio.
I thought he would make a great Intercontinental Champion.
But, if you go round attacking fellow employee's, your going to have to deal with the consequences.
Del Rio should stay away from TNA, and head back to Mexico.
I thought he would make a great Intercontinental Champion.
But, if you go round attacking fellow employee's, your going to have to deal with the consequences.
Del Rio should stay away from TNA, and head back to Mexico.
I couldn't believe this when I first heard about it. I really like Alberto Del Rio. He is so much better than people give him credit for.... He can work a great match, is good on the mic, and was really quite enjoyable to watch during his WWE run especially as a face. I don't understand what people disliked about him. He had to have done something awful in order to get future endeavored. Alberto had a good run.... 4 time World Champion, 2011 Royal Rumble winner, and 2011 Money In the Bank winner.... Not bad at all. He will be missed. 
Reflection
is a happier and wiser man
Maybe he beat up Sheamus. Sheamus couldn't take the humiliation of getting his Celtic warrior's great white ass kicked by another Mexican, and went crying to Triple-H. And we know what happens when Triple-H's muscular buddies go complain to him about another employee
On a serious note, I'm damn shocked. I totally didn't see this coming. I felt he served a purpose of acting as a stepping stone for main event stars like their big match, so I thought he would be pretty safe. Wow, this will take some time to sink in. He wasn't all that bad either... just couldn't blend in with the audience well. I'm hoping the suspension is a temporary 30-day or so deal. If not, hope he will find another good promotion to perform in.
On a serious note, I'm damn shocked. I totally didn't see this coming. I felt he served a purpose of acting as a stepping stone for main event stars like their big match, so I thought he would be pretty safe. Wow, this will take some time to sink in. He wasn't all that bad either... just couldn't blend in with the audience well. I'm hoping the suspension is a temporary 30-day or so deal. If not, hope he will find another good promotion to perform in.
ShowOffHEEL
Married to Summer Rae
He's legit gone.
I don't see him getting reinstated like Emma did, and I won't miss him.
Good talent in the ring but no connection with the crowd and he became dull quite quickly.
I don't see him getting reinstated like Emma did, and I won't miss him.
Good talent in the ring but no connection with the crowd and he became dull quite quickly.
GeneralKarim
Ass Man
I have pneumonia so I phsysically am so tired that I cant get hyped/shocked or w/e by anything. But if I could get shocked I would be about this. Although reports have said that Del rio doesn't want to stick around much longer, it's still a bit weird to see him released like this, he must really have gotten into a serious altercation if was let go because of it.
Well I personally will miss him. I think he was extremely underrated by the community. In the ring the guy made me happy as hell and I will miss his kicks, really I will. He was a guy you know could be put with anyone and have a good match. On the mic, while not the Rock, he could hold his own and get his point across with some modicum of charisma. People call him bland and charisma(less) but when I look at Del Rio I dont see John Morisson. Sure the dude had a good heel stick but as a face, he had literally 0 charisma. Del Rio had a bit of charisma as a heel and as a face and he was a true old school heel and not these new age heels.
It's a shame he never really got that over and Ricardo was more over than him. But people always reacted to his moves at least which is something.
He won't be rememberd for really anything in WWE by the casual fans. Only the few niche fans who liked him for his in ring for will.
I think WWE will actually miss him in terms of the matches he was usually put in. Now they have to substitute that with something. Hoping the heel stable with Woods and co get some air time now.
Only good thing to come out of this is I will never have to see Sheamus Del Rio match. Their matches were good but after seeing 1001 of them ...
Well I personally will miss him. I think he was extremely underrated by the community. In the ring the guy made me happy as hell and I will miss his kicks, really I will. He was a guy you know could be put with anyone and have a good match. On the mic, while not the Rock, he could hold his own and get his point across with some modicum of charisma. People call him bland and charisma(less) but when I look at Del Rio I dont see John Morisson. Sure the dude had a good heel stick but as a face, he had literally 0 charisma. Del Rio had a bit of charisma as a heel and as a face and he was a true old school heel and not these new age heels.
It's a shame he never really got that over and Ricardo was more over than him. But people always reacted to his moves at least which is something.
He won't be rememberd for really anything in WWE by the casual fans. Only the few niche fans who liked him for his in ring for will.
I think WWE will actually miss him in terms of the matches he was usually put in. Now they have to substitute that with something. Hoping the heel stable with Woods and co get some air time now.
Only good thing to come out of this is I will never have to see Sheamus Del Rio match. Their matches were good but after seeing 1001 of them ...
Mustang Sally
Sells seashells by the seashore
Yeah, well, that's one of the things about employees often having to walk on eggshells during hard economic times.....stuff that would be brushed aside when things are good suddenly become major blow-ups when the organization needs an excuse to let people go. With the "wonderful" concept of spin that exists today, the spokespeople for the company can make a major incident sound minor, or vice-versa.
Del Rio was praised as a good guy and model employee all the time he was with WWE. Obviously, something happened in the past few days and we'll probably never know the true details.
Or maybe ADR, with his contract nearing it's expiration date, wanted to get out, seeing an opportunity somewhere else and hoping to free himself of his WWE obligations before it dried up, so he asked officials to dream up something to explain his release.
Either way....goodbye, Alberto. I thought you were a terrific ring worker.
Pity that so many others were "bored" by you. Technical excellence in the squared circle counts for only so much, I suppose.
Jack-Hammer
YOU WILL RESPECT MY AUTHORITAH!!!!
It's true that WWE's made controversial decisions in terms of releasing talent over incidents or, in some cases, not releasing talent. Most of those, however, happened many years back. Times have changed, as has been pointed out, and there are certain things that go down in 2014 that WWE may have been able to sweep under the rug or handle quietly 10-15 years ago. Even though WWE's been a publicly traded company since late 1999, it's more high profile these days, in certain ways, thanks to the presence it's generated on Social Media the past several years.
I remember Orton was suspended once many years back for unprofessional behavior, which some people mistakenly think was his first violation of the WWE Wellness Policy. Orton's known to be pretty immature sometimes and while I don't know exactly what happened, some of the Divas were sufficiently harassed that Orton was sent home.
I remember reading about Big Show's interview with that reporter, it was about 1.5 years ago, and there's confusion as to whether or not Show was in character. The reporter claimed that Show punched him and damaged his neck grabbing him in a choke. I haven't heard anything else on it since, so it's probably been dismissed, settled out of court or there was never anything to it. If this reporter's claims were indeed legit, then Show should've been fired.
As for Emma, it's not a huge stretch of the imagination to think that she'd genuinely forgot about the cell phone case. There've been times when I've been leaving for work, looked at my wallet, left the house without it and realized I'd forgotten it by the time I was pulling into my work place's parking lot. I'm not saying that she did or didn't intentionally take it, I've no way of knowing that, of course.
According to wrestlinginc.com, the latest bit of info is that word going round is that Del Rio slapped the guy because he said something that Del Rio felt was racist in nature. What this other man allegedly said isn't mentioned anywhere and, frankly, I'm very surprised that this didn't come out earlier. These days especially, anything with even hints of racism attached to it is a hot topic that often gets picked up and, in some cases, blown out of proportion almost immediately. As a result, it makes me a little suspicious and I'm wondering if this genuinely was part of the story that was going around right after the incident took place or if it's something that Del Rio told to people hours later or sometime earlier today in an attempt to somehow save some degree of face.
I remember Orton was suspended once many years back for unprofessional behavior, which some people mistakenly think was his first violation of the WWE Wellness Policy. Orton's known to be pretty immature sometimes and while I don't know exactly what happened, some of the Divas were sufficiently harassed that Orton was sent home.
I remember reading about Big Show's interview with that reporter, it was about 1.5 years ago, and there's confusion as to whether or not Show was in character. The reporter claimed that Show punched him and damaged his neck grabbing him in a choke. I haven't heard anything else on it since, so it's probably been dismissed, settled out of court or there was never anything to it. If this reporter's claims were indeed legit, then Show should've been fired.
As for Emma, it's not a huge stretch of the imagination to think that she'd genuinely forgot about the cell phone case. There've been times when I've been leaving for work, looked at my wallet, left the house without it and realized I'd forgotten it by the time I was pulling into my work place's parking lot. I'm not saying that she did or didn't intentionally take it, I've no way of knowing that, of course.
According to wrestlinginc.com, the latest bit of info is that word going round is that Del Rio slapped the guy because he said something that Del Rio felt was racist in nature. What this other man allegedly said isn't mentioned anywhere and, frankly, I'm very surprised that this didn't come out earlier. These days especially, anything with even hints of racism attached to it is a hot topic that often gets picked up and, in some cases, blown out of proportion almost immediately. As a result, it makes me a little suspicious and I'm wondering if this genuinely was part of the story that was going around right after the incident took place or if it's something that Del Rio told to people hours later or sometime earlier today in an attempt to somehow save some degree of face.
ADR was a great in-ring worker, his matches were entertaining. I guess I will forever enjoy technical wrestling over brawling and high flying. Would had loved to see him and Kurt Angle one on one.
I wasn't expecting him to re-sign with the company and read numerous reports he had no plans of staying. He can now go to a promotion in which he can.
I wasn't expecting him to re-sign with the company and read numerous reports he had no plans of staying. He can now go to a promotion in which he can.
Good Golly It's Ollie
Magical Girl
Sally I agree that perhaps he was underrated skills wise, but did you see that match where he was legitimately trying to hurt Sin Cara? That doesn't seem like model behaviour to me, in spite of the thing that may have cause Del Rio to take against him (something about guns back in Mexico apparently).
Yeah a significant portion of the fanbase shit on his abilities quite a lot in recent years, but he doesn't seem like a knight in shining armour to me either.
It makes total sense. Fighting or even a "verbal assault", making someone feel like shit and threatened in a work environment is a more immediately serious threat to everyone else there than something you did on your own time.
They're right to fire him if that's what he did. A DUI or theft outside of the workplace is for the law to deal with, but WWE are taking responsibility for the protection of their non-wrestling employees, which is good.
THTRobtaylor
Once & Future Wrestlezone Columnist
If it's true a racial slur was used, then WWE is on a sticky wicket compared to what has gone before... Hayes still works there after all but if it's a staff member HR would probably get involved, however the slap would perhaps negate their firing, as WWE wouldn't want the lawsuit.
Remember this is a company that had to pay out $26m to a wrestler who botched and caused his own broken neck and that Del Rio is a fighter with MMA experience, as such the rules of "lethal weapon" come into play more... he'd be expected to be more restrained in his behaviour rather than lashing out as he could do more damage.
WWE will desperately try and keep it in house, probably pay off the employee with a reference and settlement with confidentiality. ADR wanted out anyway so he loses a few months pay and it won't hurt him unless the guy sues, which he may after all it'd be for ADR to prove the racial slur rather than the other guy needing to defend himself as the violence was evident.
Remember this is a company that had to pay out $26m to a wrestler who botched and caused his own broken neck and that Del Rio is a fighter with MMA experience, as such the rules of "lethal weapon" come into play more... he'd be expected to be more restrained in his behaviour rather than lashing out as he could do more damage.
WWE will desperately try and keep it in house, probably pay off the employee with a reference and settlement with confidentiality. ADR wanted out anyway so he loses a few months pay and it won't hurt him unless the guy sues, which he may after all it'd be for ADR to prove the racial slur rather than the other guy needing to defend himself as the violence was evident.
lil steroid meat
Unregistered User
Del Rio was always a good talent that just had a stale gimmick. Hopefully new life can be breathed into his character through a repackaging in TNA or GFW.
And props to him if he got into an altercation for not letting a racist comment slide. I've heard a lot of stories about some of the WWE brass and their interactions with minorities.
And props to him if he got into an altercation for not letting a racist comment slide. I've heard a lot of stories about some of the WWE brass and their interactions with minorities.
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