Fine, I'll call it an embryo or a fetus, though I think it's not an important issue what we call it, especially because nobody here is using those words as propaganda. I think you can get the picture of what I'm talking about if I use words like child or baby. It's just what I'm used to saying.
I know, it;s just when someone says and you're killing a baby, it sounds awful, compared to killing an embryo. I know that's what you've always said, so if you want to continue that's obviously fine, that's just how I see it.
Believe me, I can understand where you're coming from. I know, I know it was NOT the woman's choice to get pregnant in the case of rape, but how can we blame it on the baby- or sorry the embryo or whatever you want to call it?
The blame is in no way being passed to the fetus in this. There's only one person to blame, and that's the bastard that did it in this first place. But I feel a hell of a lot more for the woman who is trying to come to terms with this happening to her, than a fetus that has no idea.
Yes the way it was concieved was horrible, but it had no choice in that either. And I'm sorry, I know how horrible it sounds (and I feel really bad for saying this), but even in the case you presented it is sort of selfish because to be selfish is to be concerned with yourself, and in what you said it's obvious the woman is concerned for herself, not that I am blaming her for that or trying to put her in the wrong because again, it's not her fault and it's perfectly reasonable that she think about herself in times like that.
She has every right to think about herself in this circumstance. It's not selfishness, everyone has a right, especially in this position, to do exactly what they feel is right for themselves. And I know the fetus did no wrong in this, but neither did the woman. And as I said earlier. Something that is thinking and feeling for itself, or something that doesn't even know of it's own existence?
Also, how is it fair, after being forced into sexual intercourse, to be forced into a pregnancy?
Also, an interesting fact when discussing this is that the majority of women that are raped and become pregnant (and that is VERY rare) do choose to keep their child.
And those women have my utmost respect. Because i would never be able to do it. No lie, if I had to keep my rapists baby I think I'd have killed myself.
But the option should still be there to the few women who do want the abortion.
Like I said before, it's also not fair to blame that on the baby. Gah sorry, I just can't get used to using words like "fetus" and "embryo."
As I said, it's up to you which words you use, I've explained why I feel the 'technical' words are better, but if you think differently, it's only a word at teh end of the day.
I knew it. I knew you'd bring that up, and yes I guess I can say that an abortion could be used there. Guess I should use words like "all" more carefully.
I'll correct myself and say, "almost."
I knew this would be of your opinion, because you seemed to have common sense lol. On a different forum I was on, a girl said a woman would be a bad mother if she wouldn't die for her fetus. She said this to a woman already a mother to 1. Would she not be a bad mother if she left her actual child without a mother? Sorry kind of gone into a little rant there, but you see what I mean.
Yes I know it is, and I'm still kind of iffy about my opinion on that. So I guess I'm pro-kind of-life, because I still am very much against abortion in ALMOST all cases.
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Ah okay then.