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50 Greatest Comic Book Characters

Y 2 Jake

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I can't be bothered to post all 50. I also don't know where to put the thread. But as this will inevitably turn to movie discussion I'll put it in here.

http://www.empireonline.com/50greatestcomiccharacters/default.asp?c=50

Above is the link. The top 10 are:

10. The Thing
9. Magneto
8. The Joker
7. Judge Dredd
6. Dream
5. Spider-Man
4. Wolverine
3. John Constantine
2. Batman
1. Superman

The top two are no surprise. I'd personally prefer Batman. I've never got Superman myself. The people of Metropolis are stupid. In the day, no mask, how do those people not make the connection. Idiots the lot of them.

It's an intresting top 10. Glad to see Dream up there. This was obvioulsy voted for by geeks. Same with Constantine. I'm sure that's based of the recent film though. But for him to come up ahead of Wolverine is quite an achievement
 
I still don't get how The Blue Boy Scout can top the list. Batman is a better character than Superman. But Spawn as a character has lacked a decent character based on who has been writing him. But The Punisher or Jesse Custer not being in the Top 10 especially when they are/have been written by the master of the character flaw in Garth Ennis. Rorschach at 16 is about right as well. Iron Man is turning into one of the most complex comic characters now and justly deserves to be ranked 17 right now. But it is great to see The Tick getting recognised in this thing. Spppppppooooooooooooooooooonnnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!
 
That's what happens when you let fans vote. This must be a mixture of hardcore geeks. Thus the inclusion of Dream near the top, and just random people voting for who they know.

Rorschach currently should be at 16 currently. But come this time next year he'd be in the top 10. Even if the Watchmen film is crap. Most of the others will probably feature highly as well. But Batman should always reign supreme. Superior in every way.
 
Batman has always and will always be an more intriguing character than Superman. But if comes down to it, the only other character in Marvel that is near being Magneto's equal, it's Spider-Man. Probabaly the most relatable character in history.
 
Since when is Spider-man relatable? He is in fact probably the least relatable character that Marvel has come up with. Tony Stark is far more relatable due to the problems and character flaws involved. Spider-man was split from Mary Jane to make him more relatable again. That makes no sense that just aged him more. combine in the fact that Spider-man is like Superman and has powers means that he is less relatable than others.

As for the list it is missing Tetsuo and Kaneda from the Akira comics. two fleshed out characters if there ever were fleshed out characters.
 
It's a shame to see that Spawn only made #50 on the list. I mean he had enough popularity and groundswell to catapult the the character to a television show and a movie. And this was a first for the time as you did not see alot of "dark hero" type characters outside of the well known main characters like Batman getting such a chance.

Before that, other heroes were so squeeky clean that it was nauseating. Don't believe me? Take a look at movies that followed such characters as The Phantom, The Shadow and other allegedly "edgy" characters. Spawn was in a class all by himself and helped to give mainstream notoriety to indy comic books. So to me, ranking him as 50 was a pure insult to everything that he was able to accomplish. But it's like Jake said, that's what happens when you let the fans vote. It becomes a "current" popularity contest.
 
Good god damn, I actually recognize nearly all 50 of those names, and I'm not even an avid reader of comics. I need to start hanging around a new crowd.

I've always hated Superman. Hated.

I am glad that while Spawn (the poster) is right that Spawn (the actual dude) got pretty sucker-punched, I am at least glad to see a few names on there that I wouldn't have ever expected. Dream in the top ten? Never woulda guessed that comin. I'd also expect more non-fanboys to maybe elect current movie characters into the mix more (Hellboy, Hulk, Iron Man), but it would seem not so much. Yay fanboys (?)
 
Since when is Spider-man relatable? He is in fact probably the least relatable character that Marvel has come up with. Tony Stark is far more relatable due to the problems and character flaws involved. Spider-man was split from Mary Jane to make him more relatable again. That makes no sense that just aged him more. combine in the fact that Spider-man is like Superman and has powers means that he is less relatable than others.

As for the list it is missing Tetsuo and Kaneda from the Akira comics. two fleshed out characters if there ever were fleshed out characters.

Tony Stark is a rich playboy who gets drunk over those type of problems. Spider-Man was originally a college kid just trying to get by and do the right thing with his powers. It's two different worlds.

Iron Man has powers that allow him to take hits from Thor and Hulk. That's as ridiculous as anything in comics yet it goes down everytime they fight.
 
I know Tony Stark is a rich playboy. I was using him as an example of why Spider-man is not relatable. He got bitten at 14-16 Can't remember which. He created Web Shooters, Not the natural web stuff he does now but mechanical stuff, at that age as well. What Teenager is that smart and goes to college and still works as a freelance photographer for a rag that seeks to discredit him in his superhero guise? He is further disestablished with contemporary teens and other comic readers because of the fact that the flaws he has as a 30 year old man is the same shit he dealt with as a Teenager. Most people would have grown up by the time they reach 30 in terms of the shit the world gives them and doesn't mope around because something bad happened 15 odd years ago.

Tony Stark as an Alchoholic is more relatable because of the fact that it is a failing that a large proportion of the general populace has. His fight with his inner demons and with his own personal ethics, in that he is effectively trying to save the world from himself. He manufactured weapons and he is himself a weapons system that puts most armies to shame. His philosophical stance on life also allows for the creation of things like his armour.
 
I know Tony Stark is a rich playboy. I was using him as an example of why Spider-man is not relatable.

Actually Spiderman is very relatable to the original teen readers of the comic books. For the first time, it showed nerd in a whole new light. It showed them that they too could be heroes. It showed that knowledge can be the used to be a hero more than just brute strength. Think about it. Spiderman is always up against some villain who is stronger than he is or has him outclassed and yet he wins? Why? Because Spiderman uses his brain in order to make up for the deficit. So of course every geek and nerd is going to be salivating over him and is going to be inspired by his plight.

He got bitten at 14-16 Can't remember which. He created Web Shooters, Not the natural web stuff he does now but mechanical stuff, at that age as well.

So you are saying that the teenage mind is stunted and can't possibly fathom anything that creative? I mean we have teenagers who have won pullitzers and are considered to be more creative than some of the most sophisticated scientific minds who are three times their age. There is a football player in the NFL right now who was the youngest player ever to be drafted in the NFL draft at the age of 19. And he had his 4 year degree from college as well. How did he do it? he was skipped several grades and excelled very well and ended up graduating with HONORS. And he's a FOOTBALL PLAYER. Does that make HIM not relatable or something to strive for?

What Teenager is that smart and goes to college and still works as a freelance photographer for a rag that seeks to discredit him in his superhero guise? He is further disestablished with contemporary teens and other comic readers because of the fact that the flaws he has as a 30 year old man is the same shit he dealt with as a Teenager.

If anything, this shows that your life can stagnate, even if you are a genius. He sacrifices his own economic placement in order to be a hero. And the irony is that he works to help build up his own name at a place that discredits him so much. It's called adversity. It's something that we all deal with. A daily struggle. The relatability is written all over the wall on this one.

Most people would have grown up by the time they reach 30 in terms of the shit the world gives them and doesn't mope around because something bad happened 15 odd years ago.

Actually you are very wrong here. As a Mental Health Rehab Worker, I deal with people every day who are still trying to deal with the things that happened to them during their childhood years. Everyone has their demons. But Spiderman is more of an inspirational character because he deals with them without letting them cripple him. He seems to be getting more relatable by the minute here.

Tony Stark as an Alchoholic is more relatable because of the fact that it is a failing that a large proportion of the general populace has. His fight with his inner demons and with his own personal ethics, in that he is effectively trying to save the world from himself. He manufactured weapons and he is himself a weapons system that puts most armies to shame. His philosophical stance on life also allows for the creation of things like his armour.

That's like saying that Batman is very relatable because his parents died. Sure Tony Stark is an alcoholic, but how exactly is he dealing with it? has he found his "moment of clarity" where he starts seeking help or treatment? No. Is he suffering from liver disease or facing the same failures that the general public type of alcoholic would have to deal with? No. Does he have to deal with the same consequences? No? Hell, when was the last time that Iron Man was on a bender and crashed into someone, killing an innocent person because of his alcoholism? Never. It aint gonna happen either. I'm sorry but, if anything, Stark is the least relatable figure I could think of. And I fight alcoholism every day! Hell, that's like saying that Captain Morgan should know how I feel because he has a bottle in his hand. Not too realistic is it?
 
This list isn't so bad I suppose. Superman takes the nod over Batman, simply because of the Icon status associated with him. However, anyone that has read a comic in the last twenty years has realized that Batman is far more popular and relevant since the re-boot of DC comics. The Blue Boy Scout is as close as one dimensional of a superhero as you get, while Batman is simply the greatest comic character out there.

I have no real problem with Wolverine being up there (him and Batman should have been 1 and 2). Wolverine's back story is incredibly well done, and the character has been well written over the years.

Let me stand back, John Fucking Constantine, terrible. I'm supposing because he's dark he's kewl, give me a break. That character and rag are terrible and have been terrible for a while. People's obsession with this character, and their incistance on telling everyone how good he is, despite no one listening, is absurd.
 

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