5-Star/Perfect Matches

[TLC]

Jericho vs Benoit, Royal Rumble 2001

 

[LSN80]

• Bret Hart versus Steve Austin, WrestleMania 13 (what the fuck is wrong with you people?)

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  Already rated by Meltzer as five stars.
  
  
  

  [*]Rob Van Dam versus Jeff Hardy, InVasion 2001

  I did indeed love this match, and I remember the last time I watched it, the fan reception to it was freaking insane. No mat classic, but this was spot after spot with only a few noticeable botches. I'd go ****1/4 for it, but that's just me. One to re-watch, as it's been awhile.
  
  

  [*]AJ Styles versus Samoa Joe versus Christopher Daniels, Unbreakable 2005

  Already given ***** by Meltzer and Wade Keller.
  
  

  I also thought about sneaking a Christian/Orton match onto there - probably their one at Over The Limit.

  The second best match of 2011 in WWE, I thought. I think it's a ****1/2 match, but that's just my opinion.
  
  
  

  Still, two matches from one company in the same year seems like overkill, doesn't it?

  Two matches in a decade for Meltzer is too much, unless it's from NJPW or a Misawa match.
  
  

  Shawn Michaels vs Shelton Benjamin RAW.

  It was around 12 minutes, which is too short to give that high a rating to.
  Five star ending, I'll say that.
  
  

  Am I the only one who loved Taker vs Batista at Cyber Sunday? Austin was such a brilliant dynamic in that and all but the match itself was great as well.

  I liked it, didn't love it. It was an excellent main event to the PPV, that's for sure.
  
  

  Triple H vs Shawn Michaels Summerslam 2002?

  Summerslam 2002:: HBK vs. HHH(Street Fight)

  Already made the list.
  
  

  Jericho vs Benoit, Royal Rumble 2001

  
  The ladder match? GREAT call.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

I think he-who-must-not-be-named had excellent matches on SD from 02 to 03.

 

[Nate DaMac]

I think he-who-must-not-be-named had excellent matches on SD from 02 to 03.

Can we stop with this stupid joke yet? It was funny once. 6 years ago.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I'd put HHH vs. Cactus in the street fight rematch on there.

Is this the one at the Royal Rumble? I ask because I have it on DVD upstairs and I wouldn't want to sit through a fantastic match only to find out it's not the one klunderbunker was talking about.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Can we stop with this stupid joke yet? It was funny once. 6 years ago.

I'm bringing homicidy back.


YE!

 

[Uncle Sam]

That's not a pun.

 

[Coco]

It was around 12 minutes, which is too short to give that high a rating to.

Given that bias and the fact that it's harder to logically fit a lot into a shorter match, I'd say it's easier to have a great long match than a great short match. But that doesn't mean short matches can't be great. In fact I'd say that having a great short match is a greater accomplishment than having a great long match.

Also, just for shits and giggles: You gave Angle vs Rey at SummerSlam 2002 the five snowflake stamp. That match clocked in at under ten minutes bell-to-bell.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Well you can't spell Pundit without Pun.


I have no clue really I don't.


HBK/Cena, where do we stand on that? 4 stars?

 

[Uncle Sam]

The rematch on Raw, which I assume you're referring to, is significantly better than their WrestleMania match. Feasibly five star material.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Ye the rematch. Alright.

Angle/HBK the Ironman match. I don't remember a damn thing from that match, only that it happened. I might watch it tonight.


I might also toast Angle during but all that will be in bad taste.

 

[Lee]

Can we stop with this stupid joke yet? It was funny once. 6 years ago.

You not seen Voldermort v Kurt Angle in 03? Great match.

 

[Coco]

Fuck it, I'll play...

-Austin vs Benoit on SmackDown in Edmonton
-Eddie vs Rey on SmackDown in June 2005
-Eddie vs Rey at Halloween Havoc
-Eddie vs Brock at No Way Out 2004
-Eddie vs JBL at Judgement Day 2004
-Edge/Foley vs Funk/Dreamer at One Night Stand 2006
-Benoit vs DDP vs Raven at Uncensored 1998
-Benoit vs Regal at No Mercy 2006
-Benoit vs Regal on Velocity in 2005 or 2006
-Benoit vs Finlay at Judgement Day 2006
-Benoit vs Triple H at No Mercy 2000

Am I overrating Eddie/Benoit because they're dead? No. You're underrating them as a knee jerk reaction to other people overrating them. I'm rating them properly.

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

You not seen Voldermort v Kurt Angle in 03? Great match.

It was like Kurt vs Slightly tanned Kurt in a singlet.

Fuck it, I'll play...

-Austin vs Benoit on SmackDown in Edmonton
-Eddie vs Rey on SmackDown in June 2005
-Eddie vs Rey at Halloween Havoc
-Eddie vs Brock at No Way Out 2004
-Eddie vs JBL at Judgement Day 2004
-Edge/Foley vs Funk/Dreamer at One Night Stand 2006
-Benoit vs DDP vs Raven at Uncensored 1998
-Benoit vs Regal at No Mercy 2006
-Benoit vs Regal on Velocity in 2005 or 2006
-Benoit vs Finlay at Judgement Day 2006

Am I overrating Eddie/Benoit because they're dead? No. You're underrating them as a knee jerk reaction to other people overrating them. I'm rating them properly.

Good man.


Also Regal vs Benoit at the Pillman memorial.

 

[Nate DaMac]

Benoit and The Rock had a great match once, didn't they? I feel like I've seen it but I can't say for sure.

 

[Coco]

I'm not partial to the Rock's work. It was good stuff for him though.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I can't have a man pushing Benoit and Guerrero up in one breath and then dragging The Rock down in the next. Rocky's somehow developed a reputation as someone who was never that good in the ring recently and it's just not true - he was magic. Shit, I'll dig through my DVD collection and come back with half a dozen brilliant matches.

 

[Dowdsy McDowds]

Benoit and The Rock had a great match once, didn't they? I feel like I've seen it but I can't say for sure.

Fully Loaded 2000.

I can't have a man pushing Benoit and Guerrero up in one breath and then dragging The Rock down in the next. Rocky's somehow developed a reputation as someone who was never that good in the ring recently and it's just not true - he was magic. Shit, I'll dig through my DVD collection and come back with half a dozen brilliant matches.

It's maybe because all his title reigns were fairly short and it wouldn't surprise me if he had one of the poorer win/loss records of a main-event face. Yet, Rock was arguably at his best when he was chasing the title rather than when he had it and he helped put over lots of talent.

 

[Uncle Sam]

Half a dozen? I meant a dozen. The Rock + Fully Loaded = Magnificence

It's algebra. Get with the program, dweebs.

 

[TLC]

AJ Styles vs Abyss at Lockdown

 

[Pay Per Ghost]

Who said Rock wasn't good between the ropes?

 

[Coco]

I can't have a man pushing Benoit and Guerrero up in one breath and then dragging The Rock down in the next. Rocky's somehow developed a reputation as someone who was never that good in the ring recently and it's just not true - he was magic. Shit, I'll dig through my DVD collection and come back with half a dozen brilliant matches.

I'm not dragging Rock down. I'm just not partial to him.

I had the misfortune of DVRing Rock vs Cena 2 on NBC last night to see if my opinion of the match had changed. Spoiler: It still sucks.

 

[Uncle Sam]

I really like the Rock/Punk matches. Like, really like them. Him and Cena just didn't mesh.

 

[Little Jerry Lawler]

Angle/Taker at No Way Out has to be pretty close, doesn't it?

 

[Coco]

Yeah.

Fuck Angle though. Still.