3.3.11 Vignette; Is Sting Is Coming Back to TNA?

Okay people, let's get something straight here, just because you are with WWE and TNA doesn't mean you aren't "On Top Of The Wrestling World." Especially when Vinnie Mac wants you to know that WWE isn't Wrestling, it's "Sports Entertainment". Just because Sting doesn't want to go to WWE doesn't make him or TNA suck. The promo was supposed to be similar to WWE's and it's because it was supposed to be. It sis exactly what TNA wanted it to do. The funny thing is that most of you that are complaining about TNA ripping off WWE are actually still mad about two things. One being that Sting didn't in fact go to WWE, or two, you said Sting will "NEVER" return to TNA because he was retired or whatever else rationalization you came up with. Save face now?n See, WWE can rip off TNA, but TNA can't do the same thing to WWE because they are the "Top Dog", yeah? I laughed when I saw the promo because I knew it was going to generate the buzz it did. Like it was said a long time ago, when trying to get attention, there is no such thing as bad press. The more you guys fester and complain about this, the more attention you draw to TNA and you can complain and B*tch all you want about how bad TNA is as a product all you want, but even if you get three people to watch TNA just to see if it's as bad as you are saying, that's three more people that had never seen it before.

I'm glad Sting is back at TNA because it still shows his integrity as he has said on several occasions that he would "Never" work for Vince McMahon in the WWE. It's nice to see a wrestler say "Never" and thus far mean it. The Promo is what it is and as long as people are watching TNA, they will stay on the sir. Sorry, it isn't closing up shop and it isn't going out of business because no matter what you WWE fans that hate TNA do and say, there are Wrestling fans pout there that HATE WWE and will watch TNA just to get their wrestling fix without having to watch WWE. If you think it's stupid, oh well, good for you and enjoy your WWE. I'm just happy wrestling is still on Television and it still has fans.

For the record, I am neither with nor against TNA or WWE. I enjoy aspects of both companies.

Next, I never mentioned anything about Sting "sucking" as you put it. I have tremendous respect for Sting, for his accomplishments and his dedication to the business of professional wrestling. Where he chooses to work is his business and his right. If he is comfortable working for TNA, that is his perogative.

Also, I am not one of the few who foolishly deluded themselves into believing without any evidence past speculation that Sting was going to appear at Wrestlemania. I always have a wait and see attitude when it comes to wrestling as everything you hear outside of what actually transpires on wrestling programming is all hearsay as far as I am concerned.

The issue is that TNA blatantly lied about their 2.24.11 broadcast in an effort to grab ratings. They promised something that they did not deliver on and that is stone cold fact. Anyone can make all sorts of speeches about "subjectivity", "bait-and-switch" and "well there was A surprise", but that is not what TNA was selling. They specifically chose words that would sensationalize their show with a promise of some revolutionary happening that DID NOT HAPPEN. They said, BIG SURPRISE on 2.24.11! When the day arrived, the message was now tune in 3.3.11 to find out what our garbage vignette/parody/rip-off even means. That's bullshit, plain as day.

So save this TNA fans vs. WWE fans bs, it doesn't mean anything.

EDIT: By the way, did you actually say that something was supposed to be something because it was supposed to be?

The promo was supposed to be similar to WWE's and it's because it was supposed to be.

Yeah, you did. Honestly?
 
There's never really been a doubt in mind that Sting would return to TNA. He's pretty much been the backbone of TNA since the beginning. Unlike most WWE fans I never really wanted to see him go to WWE. I just don't think he would of fit it there. Sting vs Undertaker may have been a dream match several years ago, but not now. It's no secret Undertaker isn't 100% having match with HHH makes more sense. It may not be original in fact they have had a ton of matches together, but an injured wrestler is in better hands with someone he has chemistry with rather than someone he hasn't faced in over 20 years since he's Mean Mark days.

The only real problem I have with the rip off promo at the end of Impact was the promise of the most shocking surprise of the year. I don't get how a parody of a WWE promo is shocking. If Sting would have came out last night that would be a surprise.
 
EDIT: By the way, did you actually say that something was supposed to be something because it was supposed to be?

So you're telling everyone here, that you TRULY believe that TNA copied WWE's 2.21.11 promo, KNOWING that it's almost the same, KNOWING that everyone saw the 2.21.11 promo and would associate it with the 3.3.11 promo, and they did it because ... they want to be like WWE? Because they're "out of ideas"? Is anyone here ACTUALLY thinking that it went like that? Can you all grow brains?

Why does it seem like the TNA fans are the only people who can put two logical sentences together and point out arguments that are based on common sense? All I see from WWE fans is "OMMGMGGMMGG TNA SUXXX SO BAD DEY COPEE DA WWE AND DEY WANNA BE DA WWE AND DEY OUT OF IDEAZZZ TNA BE OUT OF BIZZ TOMORROW!!!!".

Gimme a break, if WWE took a shot at TNA you'd all be jizzing your pants.
 
Why does it seem like the TNA fans are the only people who can put two logical sentences together and point out arguments that are based on common sense? All I see from WWE fans is "OMMGMGGMMGG TNA SUXXX SO BAD DEY COPEE DA WWE AND DEY WANNA BE DA WWE AND DEY OUT OF IDEAZZZ TNA BE OUT OF BIZZ TOMORROW!!!!".
Well, it's pretty easy, actually. You think that TNA fans are the only people who can put together two logical sentences, because you don't listen to what anyone else has to say, and tell anyone who disagrees with you what their opinions are. I believe not even a week ago you were telling the boards that they thought Jeff Hardy was poor in the ring because he received a pharmacy in the mail. No one was ever arguing that, but asking you to focus on what others are actually saying is probably a bit beyond your ken.
Zeven_Zion said:
So you're telling everyone here, that you TRULY believe that TNA copied WWE's 2.21.11 promo, KNOWING that it's almost the same, KNOWING that everyone saw the 2.21.11 promo and would associate it with the 3.3.11 promo, and they did it because ... they want to be like WWE? Because they're "out of ideas"? Is anyone here ACTUALLY thinking that it went like that? Can you all grow brains?
More of your fascinating debate gymnastics. No, he didn't say that at all. But if you say he did, and then argue as if he did, you can avoid having to discuss what he actually said.
Zeven_Zion said:
Gimme a break, if WWE took a shot at TNA you'd all be jizzing your pants.
Most WWE fans wouldn't get the reference. I'd actually think it'd be a bit beneath the WWE- repeatedly taking shots at a company that isn't responding is pretty bush league, and the WWE knows they're the majors.
 
Those of us who like both TNA and WWE really have no issue with this vignette and can see it for what it is. A good piece of marketing (which TNA rarely succeeds at)
Exactly right.

This is NOT a ripoff. It's good marketing.

The only people who see's it differently seem to be the WWE marks who are butt hurt that Sting didn't come to WWE to job to Taker.
 
Exactly right.

This is NOT a ripoff. It's good marketing.

The only people who see's it differently seem to be the WWE marks who are butt hurt that Sting didn't come to WWE to job to Taker.
I've gotta stop drinking, because I keep responding to posts like this.

Can we all just drop this "if you don't see it this way, you must see it that way" logic around here? I swear to God, if I thought a quarter of you would understand the material, I'd create a thread all about the logical fallacies I see on this board to promote all kinds of crazy theories.

Alright, so here we go. The idea that it's just a blatant ripoff for the sake of being a ripoff is wrong. The theory that is being espoused is that this is a one-up on the WWE over Sting not wrestling at Wrestlemania. If the WWE had ever alluded or hinted that they had signed Sting, this would be a coup of the highest order for TNA. However, the WWE didn't- they let the fans run with it for a couple of days, then got blatantly obvious about what they were advertising. You can't hold the WWE responsible because some of their fans are gullible idiots; we don't judge TNA by shattered_dreams' posts.

But the window was still open for TNA! WWE allowed the false Sting hoopla to build up because it benefited them; in a roundabout way, they were drinking from Sting's cup. That is the moment that TNA should have aired their vignettes; while the Undi videos were still creating buzz on the internet. The WWE made their reveal, and Sting going to WWE instantly became "eh, oh well". Sting going to TNA isn't a reveal, or shocking; it's just "oh, he's back, good for him."

This is a ripoff- but a ripoff can also be good marketing. In this case, TNA struck too late for it to matter. It's like Charlie Sheen jokes in a week- they just won't be funny anymore.
 
You do not seem to understand what 'shock' is. All shocks are surprises; not all surprises are shocks. Providing the dictionary definition would do absolutely shit to educate anyone here, so I'm going to paraphrase what they'll tell you in your first college literature or psychology class.

The human mind has a set of expectations. When these are met, it's called 'predictability'. The human mind also has a set of expectations for how those original expectations could be violated; this is called surprise. Then, there are events that can occur completely outside of either set of expectations. This is called "shock".

If anyone was shocked by Sting returning to TNA- and I don't mean you saying "you were obviously surprised because I read your mind earlier and know you thought Sting was joining WWE"- they are dumber then even I give them credit for.

Now- and this is for IDR too- is about "surprise".

Personally, I was not surprised, because anyone with half a fucking brain cell knew pretty quick that Sting wasn't the target of those vignettes. It is not "surprising" to me that Sting would end up back in TNA; it is what I have expected for some time now. A few very loud idiots on a message board do not sum up the beliefs of the entirety of wrestling fandom. I think I'm pretty jaded, but before we even get into the semantics of "biggest surprise of the year", I'd like to think that phrase would at least elict an eyebrow raise from me.


Now, onto the "well, you're just upset about the verbiage"- WORDING MATTERS. If you promise customers "the biggest surprise of the year", you are setting yourself a very precise and public goal. At the end of the year, is there room for wiggle room? Of course, how big a surprise is is subjective. But that's what you have- wiggle room. To consider this "the biggest surprise of the year" in December is going to take enough wiggle room to park a Greyhound. Thus far, it's not even the biggest surprise of the month to most eyes.

When it comes to trying to sell someone something, it's not about what you're offering- it's about what the buyer thinks you're offering. Professional wrestling is the business of managing perceptions. If you allow your buyer to believe that you're selling them a diamond ring, but the rock turns out to be glass, it doesn't matter if you never TOLD them they were getting glass. They're going to be upset when they find out, and telling them "well, I never SAID it was a diamond" doesn't make them any less upset. You were the one who allowed them to believe it was a diamond, and capitalized on the sale knowing full well it wasn't a diamond. This is all good when you're selling diamond rings and don't expect the customer to come back for a long time, if ever; however, TNA is expecting their customers to come back every single week.

You're under the false impression that something specific has to be offered to constitute a bait-and-switch; and that if that very specific test isn't met, then it can't constitute a bait-and-switch and thus people have no right to be upset. This is wrong. When you are selling someone something, it doesn't matter if they are upset for a good reason or a silly one; you want them to leave happy and wanting to come back and spend more money. Anyone who has ever worked in retail or food service understands this intimately.

Telling fans "well, technically, it could qualify as a surprise, and someone could consider this the biggest surprise of the year" reeks of cheapness. Should TNA be trying to manage their fan base through technicalities? "The biggest surprise of the year" is a weighty statement, as much as you're trying to reduce it down to bare elements. Fans should leave with some sense of satisfaction, and I mean more then Zev going "OMG LOL WWE SUCKS".

I'm glad that you enjoyed it, but I'm afraid my threshold for surprise is somewhat higher then a 51 year old man returning after a four-month break after a couple of idiots on the internet thought he had signed with the WWE.

For the TNA fan that doesn't read stuff on the Internet it could have been shocking. Sting returning to TNA after a long absence is a big deal to TNA, and probably one of the bigger things to happen in TNA this year so far. Fact is TNA is a small company trying to grow so yes to them Sting is a bigger deal than it would be to WWE.

Because WWE fans think Undertaker, The Rock and HHH returning is bigger is a perception of WWE fans as those returns are only relevant to WWE Fans..

Here's the most SHOCKING news of the year for you! Some of us out here don't care about The Rock, Undertaker, HHH, Stone Cold and most other WWE wrestlers. I watched Raw for the first time in a long time just to see how the 2-21-11 vignette played out. Personally I wasn't impressed enough that I will watch again. I did enjoy the Cena segment and a few things but not enough to bring me back.

I wont bash WWE and say they suck because I don't watch them so I can't give an opinion. Also people like to sit here and bash TNA but truth is without TNA growing WWE wont grow either. Look at the difference between now and when WCW was around. Wrestling was drawing about 8 or 9 shares between the 2 for a while and now maybe half that is watching between WWE and TNA.

As for originality most wresting angles have been done over and over again, just names are changed and places are different. But the simple fact is the vignette last night was not at all like the Undertaker one except the numbers at the end. The WWE vignette was soooo original that people jumped all over the fact it looked like a Sting type return video and were swearing he was joining WWE. (note sarcasm)
 
All you WWE marks if you dont like TNA dont watch it its not perfect like your precious WWE is(sarcasm), for people that dont watch TNA you sure have alot to bitch about it. I watch both and I like and dislike things about each program but just cause I dont like something I dont come on here and try to rip people apart for what they think, WWE die hards have proven to be the assholes of the bunch who think WWE is all there is to wrestling, TNA provides an alternative, but if you dont like it dont watch it and save the real wrestling fans from your whinning and if you cant handle the fact that the promo was done to mock WWE's tough shit get over it. NOW I know you douche bags are gonna rip on me go ahead, cause sticks and stones may break my bones but your words can never hurt me.
 
So you're telling everyone here, that you TRULY believe that TNA copied WWE's 2.21.11 promo, KNOWING that it's almost the same, KNOWING that everyone saw the 2.21.11 promo and would associate it with the 3.3.11 promo, and they did it because ... they want to be like WWE? Because they're "out of ideas"? Is anyone here ACTUALLY thinking that it went like that? Can you all grow brains?

Why does it seem like the TNA fans are the only people who can put two logical sentences together and point out arguments that are based on common sense? All I see from WWE fans is "OMMGMGGMMGG TNA SUXXX SO BAD DEY COPEE DA WWE AND DEY WANNA BE DA WWE AND DEY OUT OF IDEAZZZ TNA BE OUT OF BIZZ TOMORROW!!!!".

Gimme a break, if WWE took a shot at TNA you'd all be jizzing your pants.

*Shakes his head in disbelief*...no. I said nothing of the kind. Go back and read it again.

I have no issue with the vignette. Granted, it does seem silly that the best TNA could do was make a sub-par duplicate of the 'Taker videos in some effort to undermine WWE. It's like voice copy-catting in an effort to make fun of someone when you can't think of anything intelligent to say.

My issue is that in place of the advertised GREATEST SURPRISE THAT IS THE MOST SHOCKING OF THE YEAR WE YES OH YES GUARANTEE...we got the vignette that we are discussing. Not what they were advertising for their program.

So there you have it. I have an issue with TNA lying to the fans, using bullshit tactics to grab ratings. That's as plain as I can put it. But feel free to attempt to see a hidden meaning in my posts some more, I'll explain it again. I understand that repetition is a strong learning tool. :)
 
Because WWE fans think Undertaker, The Rock and HHH returning is bigger is a perception of WWE fans as those returns are only relevant to WWE Fans..

Here's the most SHOCKING news of the year for you! Some of us out here don't care about The Rock, Undertaker, HHH, Stone Cold and most other WWE wrestlers. I watched Raw for the first time in a long time just to see how the 2-21-11 vignette played out. Personally I wasn't impressed enough that I will watch again. I did enjoy the Cena segment and a few things but not enough to bring me back.

All well and good. I don't think their returns are the shocking surprises of the year for good reason: the year isn't even close to being done and there is so much more that can happen. Perhaps the Rock returning will BE the shock of the year, who knows?

But here is the difference (and you will not know this as you admitted to not watching WWE programming):

WWE didn't send out any press releases promising any "Shocking Surprises of the Year - Guaranteed."

TNA did. TNA didn't deliver. That's the issue I am discussing. Rayne has made mention of it also. And so far, all I am hearing are arguments about things that have absolutely nothing to do with, much less refute, this fact. By all means, defend a company that lies to you, that's your prerogative.
 
For the TNA fan that doesn't read stuff on the Internet it could have been shocking. Sting returning to TNA after a long absence is a big deal to TNA, and probably one of the bigger things to happen in TNA this year so far. Fact is TNA is a small company trying to grow so yes to them Sting is a bigger deal than it would be to WWE.

Because WWE fans think Undertaker, The Rock and HHH returning is bigger is a perception of WWE fans as those returns are only relevant to WWE Fans..

Here's the most SHOCKING news of the year for you! Some of us out here don't care about The Rock, Undertaker, HHH, Stone Cold and most other WWE wrestlers. I watched Raw for the first time in a long time just to see how the 2-21-11 vignette played out. Personally I wasn't impressed enough that I will watch again. I did enjoy the Cena segment and a few things but not enough to bring me back.

I wont bash WWE and say they suck because I don't watch them so I can't give an opinion. Also people like to sit here and bash TNA but truth is without TNA growing WWE wont grow either. Look at the difference between now and when WCW was around. Wrestling was drawing about 8 or 9 shares between the 2 for a while and now maybe half that is watching between WWE and TNA.

As for originality most wresting angles have been done over and over again, just names are changed and places are different. But the simple fact is the vignette last night was not at all like the Undertaker one except the numbers at the end. The WWE vignette was soooo original that people jumped all over the fact it looked like a Sting type return video and were swearing he was joining WWE. (note sarcasm)
All that is great and all, but why go through the trouble of quoting what I say if you're going to talk about the WWE? I didn't even mention them in my post, except, obviously, for mentioning that some people thought Sting was going to the WWE.

I love to debate thoughts and opinions, but I have no idea why you quoted me if you're not going to discuss anything I said.
All you WWE marks if you dont like TNA dont watch it its not perfect like your precious WWE is(sarcasm), for people that dont watch TNA you sure have alot to bitch about it. I watch both and I like and dislike things about each program but just cause I dont like something I dont come on here and try to rip people apart for what they think, WWE die hards have proven to be the assholes of the bunch who think WWE is all there is to wrestling, TNA provides an alternative, but if you dont like it dont watch it and save the real wrestling fans from your whinning and if you cant handle the fact that the promo was done to mock WWE's tough shit get over it. NOW I know you douche bags are gonna rip on me go ahead, cause sticks and stones may break my bones but your words can never hurt me.
I'm not going to rip on you for your opinion of TNA. I absolutely am going to rip on you for having some crazed idea that you're a "real wrestling fan" based on the promotion you choose to watch. I am going to rip on you for thinking that anyone who dislikes TNA must love WWE, as if professional wrestling was an either-or proposition. And most importantly, I am going to rip on you for actually saying "sticks and stones". I don't have to worry about my words hurting you; someone else will assuredly give you a wedgie when you crack out that bon mot in the future. Your chosen wrestling promotion doesn't make you better than anyone else; your illegible writing style and juvenile taunts directed at no one in particular does a good job of convincing people otherwise.
 
All well and good. I don't think their returns are the shocking surprises of the year for good reason: the year isn't even close to being done and there is so much more that can happen. Perhaps the Rock returning will BE the shock of the year, who knows?

But here is the difference (and you will not know this as you admitted to not watching WWE programming):

WWE didn't send out any press releases promising any "Shocking Surprises of the Year - Guaranteed."

TNA did. TNA didn't deliver. That's the issue I am discussing. Rayne has made mention of it also. And so far, all I am hearing are arguments about things that have absolutely nothing to do with, much less refute, this fact. By all means, defend a company that lies to you, that's your prerogative.
To a casual TNA fan who doesn't read the internet and might not have even known about the 2-21-11 promos it might be the most shocking news of the year. We havn't even completed 2 months of the year yet so it quite easily could be the most shocking surprise so far in TNA. What they said doesn't mean other even bigger surprises can't happen after this.

What I see though is a bunch of WWE fans only here to bash TNA and that I don't understand. I don't find it compeling to go to the WWE forums and bash WWE so I just don't understand the mindset of people who need to come in and bash TNA. TNA fans like myself get it, we know WWE is the big dog and were just happy to have wrestling to watch.

Edit to add: I'm not speaking of you when saying a bunch of WWE fans here to bash TNA. Discussion is good and TNA makes enough screw ups to give us room to talk but so many are here just to say TNA Sucks and that is what I'm speaking of.
 
To a casual TNA fan who doesn't read the internet and might not have even known about the 2-21-11 promos it might be the most shocking news of the year. We havn't even completed 2 months of the year yet so it quite easily could be the most shocking surprise so far in TNA. What they said doesn't mean other even bigger surprises can't happen after this.

What I see though is a bunch of WWE fans only here to bash TNA and that I don't understand. I don't find it compeling to go to the WWE forums and bash WWE so I just don't understand the mindset of people who need to come in and bash TNA. TNA fans like myself get it, we know WWE is the big dog and were just happy to have wrestling to watch.

I'm going to ask you some serious questions, no sarcasm or disrespect intended.

Did you honestly feel that after watching a vignette of some unknown person walking around in some urban back lot in the rain wearing a trench coat that you had truly been shocked? Did you feel that anything had been actually revealed at all except for the fact that someone was coming to TNA and you wouldn't find out who until 3.3.11?

The truth of the matter is, if you don't read the internet spoilers, you can only ASSUME that it is Sting that is coming back. It could have been anyone.

So that leads you down a logical path that follows these basic steps:

1) Nothing was actually revealed on 2.24.11, the day that TNA promised the shocking surprise of the year.

2) TNA therefore did not deliver on their promise.

Why would TNA do this? The only logical explanation that I can think of is that they were sensationalizing this vignette to grab as many ratings as they can for their 2.24.11 broadcast.

I'm sorry, but it is false advertising, plain and simple. It is poor practice on the part of TNA management to stoop to such tactics to attempt to bolster their ratings when they have such talent at their disposal. Book properly. Let your talented wrestlers WRESTLE. That is where the ratings lie.
 
Look, I will admit TNA shouldn't have done that or promoted it in that matter but they had every right too. You think TNA didn't have a chip on their shoulder when WWE marks and fans were basically jizzing their pants over the fact they thought Sting was headed to WWE?

Basically promoting a match that never was gonna happen. Now, TNA promotes it as a response to WWE and it's a problem? Come on. Call it both ways.

It's true, TNA does have the right to falsely advertise. It is atrocious business practice, but it is there right. It does not make it correct, however.

No where in all the programming for the Undertaker's return did I see any false advertising for the arrival of Sting. WWE did not falsely advertise any sort of match or appearance by Steve Borden. It was just IWC hearsay that gained popularity.

I remember reading on Wrestlezone that someone speculated that Sting was the man in the videos and thought to myself, wow, that would be cool if it happened. 'Taker would have a sort of dream match with an opponent no one thought would ever appear in a WWE ring, Sting would get whatever recognition the WWE HOF affords and he could ride off to whatever sunset he chose after that with a larger audience and more money in his pocket. But, it wasn't the case and I shed no tears over it.

My only concern in all of this was TNA's false promises to their fans. But I would have a beef with any company that did that, wrestling or otherwise. I would be the first person to say something against the WWE if they had done the same thing.
 
TNA is using the Sting hype from the WWE's 2/21/11 for their own benefit, of course assuming it will be Sting on 3/3/11, and from the looks of the video, it most likely will be. Just because the video uses the same looking font for their date that WWE's 2/21/11 promo did, doesn't mean TNA lacks creativity. If we really want to play that game, we can. WWE's 2/21/11 promo clearly ripped off WCW's 1997 Starrcade promo for Sting with the rain and lightning. If it is Sting returning on 3/3/11, then good for TNA. They are capitalizing on WWE's failure on 2/21/11 to even get in contact with Sting to bring him in. I wanted to see Sting in the WWE like many others, but mostly for a huge DVD release and to see him get the proper send-off he deserves in front of millions. But, I still prefer watching him in TNA.

If it's Sting returning on 3/3/11...then I'm pretty damn excited. Sting has been my favorite wrestler since I started watching wrestling back in the early '90s.
 
Look any way you slice it..this is good for TNA...Whether you love it or hate it , who isnt going to watch his return?.....its a big thing for TNA....and honestly im a WWE fan but yh I am a bit jealous that Sting seems to be going to TNA. This should be good aslong as he doesnt win the title in his first match back...oh...:banghead:
 
I'm going to ask you some serious questions, no sarcasm or disrespect intended.

Did you honestly feel that after watching a vignette of some unknown person walking around in some urban back lot in the rain wearing a trench coat that you had truly been shocked? Did you feel that anything had been actually revealed at all except for the fact that someone was coming to TNA and you wouldn't find out who until 3.3.11?

The truth of the matter is, if you don't read the internet spoilers, you can only ASSUME that it is Sting that is coming back. It could have been anyone.

So that leads you down a logical path that follows these basic steps:

1) Nothing was actually revealed on 2.24.11, the day that TNA promised the shocking surprise of the year.

2) TNA therefore did not deliver on their promise.

Why would TNA do this? The only logical explanation that I can think of is that they were sensationalizing this vignette to grab as many ratings as they can for their 2.24.11 broadcast.

I'm sorry, but it is false advertising, plain and simple. It is poor practice on the part of TNA management to stoop to such tactics to attempt to bolster their ratings when they have such talent at their disposal. Book properly. Let your talented wrestlers WRESTLE. That is where the ratings lie.

It wasn't shocking to me but I said the casual fan.

As to your question of was anything revealed by it. Yes there was because any TNA fan watching that vignette knows who it is because everytime he returns they make a vignettes similar to it. Rain, Dark, blueish in color. So simple answer is yes any fan of TNA watching that knows what it meant.
 
holy crap 22 pages!

I love it!
WWE fans wanted Sting, but didn't get him. TNA using the same type of promo, and they will get Sting, allegedly.

few weeks ago everyone on the internet thought TNA was reforming MEM. whether or not they were, isn't the point. WWE then grabbed Nash and Booker. SO MANY PEOPLE were laughing and calling TNA stupid for going a route in which they could not deliver. fast forward. WWE has a promo that SO MANY PEOPLE thought for sure was Sting, but WRONG! whether or not WWE had planned for that to be Sting or not, a lot of fans thought it would be. now not only does TNA get Sting(allegedly) but they get him with the same type of promo that fans thought WWE was using to get him. who's laughing now?!

this is all brilliant by TNA.
 
This is a great thing, because it could be Sting returning for a myriad of reasons. When the Undertaker returned on 2/21, we knew it ws to set up a match at Wrestlemania. With Sting, we have no idea why he's returning, or whose side he's on.

1. TNA is in the middle of a faction war. When we last saw him, he was quite ambivalent about where he was going. He refused to help Dixie Carter, and walked out on her. One has to think that Fourtune will be aligned with Dixie upon his return, so will Sting as well? It's hard to say.

2. Because of the ambivalent nature of his character when we last saw him, he could be very well aligned with Immcertaiortal. Just like Eric Bischoff told Nash to take the money and "walk away", he could have convinced Sting in 'kayfabe' terms to take the money and come back. Immortal is short on credible players, and Sting would certainly help make up for it. Would it fit Sting's character to take the money from Bischoff? No. But Sting was actually receiving a decent amount of heat before he left, as everyone thought he was a heel for those 6 months. If done properly, he could garner even more heat in doing so.

3. He could be back for himself. He may not necessarily have picked a side, and could be back for one last shot at the title. One would think he would have to go through Anderson first, but they're not bringing Sting back to be a minor player. He's going to play a big role, and what better one then to target Jeff Hardy and set up a match for the title at Lockdown?

Id be happy if any of those three scenarios play out. Personally, the least appealing to me is option number three, as i believe the company should fully gte behind AJ as the top face and push him to the moon, starting with a long feud with Jeff Hardy. Sting returning to challenge for the title would put a hold on that, which would be a bad move. Styles has been on fire as of late on the mic, and has really shown he can be the top babyface in the company. Him joining forces with Dixue would likely overshadow Fourtune as well, so option number one isn't quite as appealing either. As much as it pains me to say it, I feel the most attractive option forn Sting here is to come back and join Immortal, at least temporarily. They're desperately hurting for star power outside of the Hardy's Hernandez(sort of) and Jarrett(among active wrestlers), so his presence would certainly even the odds. While the general rule is that a wrestler should never outshine the champion, Sting is an exception because of his icon status. At least temporarily, I would have him join Immortal's ranks to bring more credibility and numbers to the group.
 
holy crap 22 pages!

I love it!
WWE fans wanted Sting, but didn't get him. TNA using the same type of promo, and they will get Sting, allegedly.

few weeks ago everyone on the internet thought TNA was reforming MEM. whether or not they were, isn't the point. WWE then grabbed Nash and Booker. SO MANY PEOPLE were laughing and calling TNA stupid for going a route in which they could not deliver. fast forward. WWE has a promo that SO MANY PEOPLE thought for sure was Sting, but WRONG! whether or not WWE had planned for that to be Sting or not, a lot of fans thought it would be. now not only does TNA get Sting(allegedly) but they get him with the same type of promo that fans thought WWE was using to get him. who's laughing now?!

this is all brilliant by TNA.

True , but heres the thing. The reason there was so much hype was because Sting has never been to the WWE. Thats what made it exciting. We would have seen alot of things that have never been seen before. Theres nothing shocking at all about Sting returning to TNA. Hes done everything he can do there. Thats why i dont have that much interest in it as i would have with WWE
 
Well, to those who feel that the "shocking announcement or moment or whatever of the year" was in fact shocking, I will inform you that I have just read on another sight that a lot of TNA fans have taken to Twitter to attack TNA and Dixie Carter for their false advertising last night. Which is truly what this is about. It's not about an FU to the WWE or TNA using the Sting (who many feel the 3/3/11 vignette was about) situation to their beneifit, it's about the fact that they promised something they sure as hell didn't deliver on. You can disagree all you want. I'm not going to get into a page after page back and forth arguement with anyone, but when you have your own fans attacking your company, well....that speaks what TNA truly did last night.
 
True , but heres the thing. The reason there was so much hype was because Sting has never been to the WWE. Thats what made it exciting. We would have seen alot of things that have never been seen before. Theres nothing shocking at all about Sting returning to TNA. Hes done everything he can do there. Thats why i dont have that much interest in it as i would have with WWE

And that's your own, personal opinion. You're entitled to it and there's nothing wrong with that. I like Sting and I hope he returns. He's TNA's Undertaker if you will.

What I have a problem with are angry WWE fans who crap on TNA for doing something smart. What I have a problem with are WWE fans who claim that TNA is copying WWE, when it's doing the exact opposite - it's making fun of it.

A month ago WWE fans felt high and mighty that Booker and Nash signed with WWE instead of staying with TNA and ruined TNA's alledged plans for an MEM reunion. They were praising Nash's twitter posts about TNA, loving every moment of it and liking it a bit more because it was a slap in the face of TNA. Did the threads garner 20.000 views? I really don't think so.

Now TNA slaps WWE and its fans in the face by mocking THEIR Undertaker return, parodying it and (hopefully) bringing in the ACTUAL Stinger. The thread blew up, 21 pages, over 20.000 views thanks to all the WWE fans who got all ********* over it.

WWE can fuck with TNA, but TNA can't fuck with WWE and its fans WITH A REASON. Is that how it is these days?

You fuckers had it coming. You've been on TNA's ass for the last 8 years, hating it no matter what they have on TV. This is the least they could do.
 
was that specific moment "shocking"? ok maybe not, but I think it's a continuation and not a period end of sentence. I think it's all about what it leads to.
I think the reason TNA did this was to get more people to watch this Impact and then keep/increase more for next weeks Impact.
 
I'm not going to rip on you for your opinion of TNA. I absolutely am going to rip on you for having some crazed idea that you're a "real wrestling fan" based on the promotion you choose to watch. I am going to rip on you for thinking that anyone who dislikes TNA must love WWE, as if professional wrestling was an either-or proposition. And most importantly, I am going to rip on you for actually saying "sticks and stones". I don't have to worry about my words hurting you; someone else will assuredly give you a wedgie when you crack out that bon mot in the future. Your chosen wrestling promotion doesn't make you better than anyone else; your illegible writing style and juvenile taunts directed at no one in particular does a good job of convincing people otherwise.

Where did i say Tna was my chosen promotion to watch I clearly say I watch both and I've watched wrestling for thirty years just cause i dont claim to know all the ins and out of the buisness and have insider secrets doesn't mean Im not a true fan, and I never assumed that I'm better than anyone else, you assumed I do.

I'm just saying I'm not one of the kool aid drinking sheep that feel WWE is the be all end all of wrestling, you do have an option is what I'm saying and you shouldn't rip on people for their choice of what they like, which is what most of you do.
 
At the end of this episode of TNA, an ad aired on Spike similar to WWE's 2/21/11 videos. Is Sting making a return to TNA next week, why did TNA completely make a rip off of Undertaker's return videos?

Easy..because TNA has been reading up on what we think..and we all thought well most of us thought that WWE had signed Sting, and what a better way to stick it to WWE than to run a promo (pretty much the exact promo) for a guy that EVERYONE wanted to see to begin with. Screw Taker, hes always leaving and returning, but to have someone like Sting show up would have made Mania so much better. We are all almost certain that this is Sting, so pretty much TNA "ripping off" WWE's promo for Taker is just giving us what we really wanted..The Stinger..
 

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