3.3.11 Vignette; Is Sting Is Coming Back to TNA?

[gers09]

this is what piss's me of about TNA am glad sting coming back but come on that was a total rip off on WWE 2.21.11 can't TNA come up with a original idea

 

[bilottag]

I know this would never happen because WWE would never acknowledge TNA publicly, but if I was running WWE, knowing that the Impact Show had been pre-taped, I would do the following:

1) Bring in Tony Schiavone as a guest commentator for one night only
2) Witty banter beween King, Cole and Schiavone:

Lawler: "So Tony, the last we saw you, you were working for another Wrestling Company...what have you been doing since?

Tony: "Well King, since I left the bush leagues, I've been working for the Georgia Bulldogs Network, but I really miss wrestling"

Cole: "What do you think of the wrestling business lately, Tony?

Tony: "I really like the youth movement the WWE has been on lately. Those guys are really exciting. You mix in some veterans giving these guys sound advice and you've built yourself a solid foundation for the future, unlike some other organizations relying soley on aged wrestlers looking out for no one but themselves and refusing to pass the torch to the younger stars. Case in point..." .... and at this point, Tony gives away the results of the pre-taped Impact Zone Championship match for Thursday (I'm not going to spoil it for everyone) followed by...
"That will put lots of butts in seats, won't it?"

Game, Set, Match!

 

[MWRedskins]

the videos were clear cut ripoffs from WWE. i wont say who the person is (so i dont spoil it), but i think TNA made this video in a way to basically insult WWE and basically say that they have a bigger announcement than WWE had. WWE promoting the return of the Undertaker isnt as big as it would've been if it hadnt been done so much. the real surprise that night on RAW was Triple H's return which not many saw coming.

 

[Kitten Cutter]

californiachef84: Actually I think that the WWE just completely lacks creativity because their 2-21-11 video hyping the return of Taker was a COMPLETE rip off of Sting's 1997 video promo for Starrcade.

Do you WWE marks see how stupid you sound? Yeah, I didn't think so. You are all blinded.

Anyways, the little guys (TNA) landed a "haymaker" with this one. Totally awesome of them to stick a thumb in the eye of the WWE. How many times has TNA been able to give the WWE a GREAT BIG FUCK YOU? This is awesome!

waylon p: (i got tired of reading so many people saying the same stuff, so I stopped at page nine. If someone already said this, I apologize.)


A lot of you folks are idiots. "this video shows that TNA has no originality".


Really? I do not remember anyone talking about WWE having no originality when they played an undertaker promo that was so much a rip-off of sting that you all thought sting was coming to wrestlemania.

You myopic fools. Vince has brainwashed you. No, it is more pathetic than that.

You poor lost sheep have brainwashed yourselves. You see everything through a glaze of "Vince is the best, WWE will always be the best" so that you cannot see your own foolishness when it is pointed out to you.

Well, thank you two so much! It's not enough that Russo wants to say Fuck you to anyone who's a WWE fan, but we have you two joining in! Thanks! It's good to know wrestling fans can still flame each other and try to instigate fights when there's no point! Fun times!

Well, I did not like the video, I was one of the 'WWE marks' that thought Sting was coming to the WWE, and I said "Fuck you too!" I wanted to see Sting in the WWE wrestle guys like Taker, or Edge, or some of the younger guys before his retirement, and to see the guy inducted into the Hall of Fame. By the way, for those of you who don't give a flying fuck about the Hall of Fame, a lot of very classy wrestling legends are in there, so Sting should and would be honored to be a part of it. So, for me to be a fan of that, I'm not apologizing. In fact, to hell with anyone whose only lot in life is to rubs it in people's faces that Sting stayed in TNA. No WWE mark is crying this morning. In fact, the ones who don't watch TNA don't even know or cared he stayed. TNA marks, however, have their "victory," so enjoy it.

For this argument that the 2-21-11 is a COMPLETE ripoff of the Sting 1997 video, that is totally not true. Rather than copy it, the WWE re-formatted it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Khw3_7wXBlA

(If I don't have the right one, feel free to post the correct one)

Also, this is sad. Your best argument is that the WWE used a video from 13 years ago?! Even if they did copy the 1997 video (which is a stretch because the video is clearly The Crow, a man seeking revenge on those who destroyed him and his company), they re-formatted it to a Western look, which The Undertaker's original 1990 character was based on, used Johnny Cash instead of Sting's theme music, with Taker doing nothing but enetering a house and lighting a candle, and used only the burning numbers at the end. That's called enhancement! Not many people would realize it, and those who did universally said, "Cool" and created a buzz, whether it be false or not. Not to mention, the WWE re-formatted a video from 13 years ago, while TNA poorly re-formatted from last week. TNA's video was very late to the game hyping next week's show, and only people who watch TNA would care. What new audience members is TNA going to get off of this? Which TNA fans stopped watching when Sting walked off on October 14th, 2010?

(Actually, did anyone who reads these forums say, "Well, Sting is gone, fuck TNA!" then heard he was coming back and will watch again next week?)

The WWE created a month of buzz for February 21st that pushed their rating to a 3.9 and set up a legendary match at Wrestlemania. TNA is creating a week of mini-buzz for March 3rd that will lead to a 1.4. And for the record, I WANT TNA to be good. I haven't missed an Impact in a year plus since started watching and I'm lukewarm on Sting coming back. Yes, I wanted him in the Hall of Fame, but TNA has been good to the man, and he has strong loyalties to the company. I hope Sting gets to keep shining and doing his thing.

 

[Strife3]

why did TNA completely make a rip off of Undertaker's return videos?

Because they are lame and it was hinted that Sting might have gone to WWE but it wasn't for him so TNA thinks they can use it to one up WWE, again it won't work.

 

[chrome_305]

Why would they do that?

Whay not let the hype for Sting build. Let the WWE do TNA's work and build up the hype machine for Sting.

Then when WWE didn't deliver, TNA swoops in and delivers Sting!

It was a great move IMO.

Yes! Great promo now the WWE marks are feeling hurt when taker return and he said nothing, but looked at the wrestle-mania sign w/HHH.

I wonder where the love for sting went?They was all over him for the past week.

 

[neildittmar]

In professional wrestling, perception is 9/10ths of the unwritten "law" on how to be successful or get something over...

A while back, the perception in WWE was that "womanizer" Edge stole Lita from Matt Hardy, who was then released from the company in a political move. It has been noted that in reality, those events didn't quite transpire that way. It didn't matter though... fan perception carried that storyline not only into a successful program, but the rehiring of Matt Hardy.

Going a LOT further back, the perception in WWF was that Andre the Giant was a monster that Hulk Hogan simply couldn't beat. The reality was that Andre was in the twilight years of his career and largely immobile. Fan perception carried Hogan vs. Andre at WM3 to becoming one of the most widely viewed professional wrestling contests that is still mentioned when "greatest moments of all time" are discussed.

So what does any of this have to do with the 3/3/11 promo essentially touting Stings return to TNA? Quite a lot actually.

Regardless of how folks want to rationalize that 2/21/11 was NEVER Sting, never promoted to be Sting, and never advertised to be Sting, the fan perception was that it could've been Sting. That's hard to deny. Folks came up with intricate theories as to why it was Sting. Everything from the way the date appeared on-screen, to hidden "clues", to how the individual in the vignettes walked. Though in reality, Vince and company might have had no intentions for the buildup of 2/21/11 to be Sting, fan perception differed drastically. As has been said in the pro-wrestling industry by numerous folks connected with it (Jim Ross immediately springs to mind), the fans are always right. Yes, even when they're clearly wrong. It's the nature of success in the business.

Though it's one of the first groups that's discredited, it's hard to argue that the IWC isn't a microcosm of the pro-wrestling community at large to at least some degree. Said differently, it wasn't only the smarky internet fans who thought that 2/21/11 could possibly be Sting. At the very least, there was a buzz amongst pro-wrestling fans in general that Sting might be coming to WWE soon, even if they simply heard rumblings of it from their IWC "friends."

So that leads us to last nights vignette, and essential return of Sting to TNA. I do agree that by the second, and particularly third 2/21/11 vignette in WWE, it was clear that they were talking about the Undertakers return and not Stings debut. That was the reality and Vince and Company wanted to make absolutely sure that fans knew without a shadow of a doubt, 2/21/11 was the Undertaker. To be blunt though, that just didn't matter. Fans STILL wanted to believe that Sting was coming into WWE, even if the vignettes weren't about him. I mean, WWE has been dropping surprise after surprise after surprise lately. Would Sting showing up at some point between now and WM really have been that hard to believe, particularly since he had "left" TNA? I think not.

Sure, last nights vignette was not incredibly creative. It didn't have to be. It was a blatant rip-off of Undertakers 2/21/11 vignettes and quite frankly, it should've been to prove the point. You see, what TNA is trying to say here is that WWE got you all buzzing that Sting might be part of their company now or in the near term future. They're right... fans STILL thought there was a possibilty that Sting would show up at some point. With this vignette, TNA effectively said "nope, not going to happen" and as an added bonus, he's going to be on our big 3/3 show next week. He's not going to be working a program with someone from WWE. He's not going to be inducted into their Hall of Fame, and he's not going to show up on the RAW after Wrestlemania.

This time, perception meets reality. There are no disappointments or overly abstract imagery. Undeniably and certainly, Sting is with TNA.

 

[mr_dna]

californiachef84

How has TNA done a big Fuck You to WWE Sting Return to TNA is nothing hell probaly wont even help TNA rateings.Its more like TNA has to a big fuck you for Fans who thought it was Sting , As instead of watching a Dream match they are tourtred to watch a sting v Drug Hardey match or Fat Hardey God Help Us All

All in all this will do nothing for TNA and the only thing WWE lost if they were indeed trying to sing Sting is a month of Slightly High Rateing.

Id Like To Add the surprise of the yeah already happend any way THE ROCK ...... and TNA can never top that

 

[AMH]

Frankly, for me the whole Sting hype died when The Rock showed up on Raw. If this is Sting coming next week, oh well. For the "Biggest Suprise of the Year--Guaranteed," was the return of The Rock. And anyone who says otherwise can check out the ratings from last weeks Raw. Just the mere chance of The Rock appearing on Raw drew their highest rating in years. We can sit on here and bitch and moan at one another, take jabs at one another, but the fact remains that the numbers never lie. The Rock coming back IS the biggest story of the year. Not even close TNA.....

 

[Lionheart]

So TNA falls flat again.

Silly me. I had heard for the past 4 - 5 years about all of these incredible events of wonderment that TNA was going to deliver. Every one of those promises fell flat. The first time I was like, "GREAT, I LOVE surprises!" The second time I was like, "A surprise? Ok." The third time I was like, "I'd like to be surprised." The fourth time I put a revolver against my temple, sighed and said, "OK, I'm ready, whaddya got?"

So it was with sadness and the most morbid case of curiosity that I watched the highlights from impact on the TNA website this morning. I was promised the "Shocking Surprise of the Year, Guaranteed!" There was nothing shocking about this at all, I already knew that TNA didn't know how to deliver an original idea.

The definition of psychosis, according to good ol' Ben Franklin, is "doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." So I must be a psychotic expecting that TNA is actually going to do something new, exciting, shocking, original, etc. They are completely missing the fact that they have success firmly in their grasp already: they have tremendous talent that can WRESTLE. Let them WRESTLE, for God's sakes. Bring back Joe vs. Styles vs. Daniels where the ACTION is the story! Total...nonstop...ACTION. Stop these bullshit attempts at being so damn clever because you are proving yourself decidedly otherwise.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

Just to clear the air of a number of misconceptions being posted here:

1. Sting returning is a surprise, as he "walked away" from TNA four months ago. The surprise may not be to your liking, but it's surprising none the less, because most had him pegged to be WWE-bound.

2. TNA did not "copy" the WWE with the 3.3.11 vignette. If you had half a brain cell left after all that WWE brainwashing, you'd realize that there is a very big difference between a parody/potshot and a duplication. A duplication would have been them running a similar vignette that had nothing to do with Sting. The fact it was quite obviously for Sting proves that it was a parody/potshot, which means it was not a "copy" — it was an intentional, well-thought out, well-executed shot taken back at WWE, it's fans especially the IWC marks who were already basement booking Sting's post-WrestleMania loss. Originality has nothing to do with this.

3. Sting never joined WWE because he was fearful of what they'd do to his character. He's admitted this clear as day, as can be seen in the video below.

Spoiler

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[RD_21]

Yesterday my reaction was POUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... THAT WAS SOOOOO BAD!

I am a TNA fan but I am almost ashame to be one with that videos it was so bad, to Tazz saying "Oh we have some new footage", to that cheap footage. I don't mind that much that it's a ripoff of the WWE, but it's a bad one.

I think what bothers me the most is that TNA are clear mark for themselves. They think that Sting is a hot thing now and they can capitalize on it while failing to understand that Sting to WWE is a big hot thing, Sting by itself isn't and a return of Sting to TNA is even less.

They will threat it like we got the hotest free agent in TNA while he is just returning to the company. If Undertaker or Cena or Orton were going to TNA it would be big just like Sting, AJ or Kurt to WWE. But a return to the promotion that you already were associated with?

Some people think that TNA are giving a big FU to WWE but I don't see it that way, I am sure that they (well at least Dixie) that it's an awesome signing and that Sting is a hot trend in the moment. The problem is that Sting isn't a hot trend anymore since Undertaker and HH came out. They should have brought Sting back after the first or second promo, that would have been a FU to the WWE.

I just don't understand why Sting go back there because he is way bigger than they would unfortunately ever be and they are the edgy promotion that the WWE once was and that Sting wanted to stay away from.

Anyway looks like he is back, let's see if his return will be cut short by another return just like WWE did.

 

[ScruffDog]

I'm just kind of wondering how Sting feels about all of this. He probably doesn't' care, but really WTF. This is Sting, we can't think of an original promo for him? This promo kind of just tells the world that Sting is TNA copy of Undertaker. It's kind of insulting. This whole promo was unnecessary, and makes TNA look childish. It's just another example of how they are trying to hard to be the WWE.

Personal, I like TNA. I think they have shit ton of talent, and there in ring performances are better than the WWE. But all these storyline's and crappy promos trying to insult the WWE, make them look like a cheesy, classless, childish origination.

We all know he is going to be Dixie muscle when she goes up to Hogan next week, maybe setting up a fight between them at the next PPV, or maybe Sting and Flair. It would have been just as cool, if not cooler, if when Dixie brings out Sting, the world was shocked to see him. Kind of like when HHH came out during the Taker promo. No one was surprised to see Taker, but when HHH came out, he got a huge pop because he caught people by surprise.

I know why they did it. They want people to watch TNA to see Sting come back. But the people who are watching just for Sting, will most likely only tune in to the last Five min, because that's when he coming out. Those same people may have already decided to watch the last five min, because of another wrestling leagued, hum what was his name again, oh ya Hogan.

 

[AMH]

What's sad is that, if this is Sting, he won't even get half the press Angelina from Jersey Shore will get. When The Rock returned, it was everywhere. He was one of the top trending topics on the internet, every major entertainment publication covered it. Yet, if this is Sting, it won't even matter. The story is.....Angelina. Oh dear. To be honest, the biggest story didn't come from TNA yesterday. It came from the WWE and their signing of Mistico. He's the Hulk Hogan of Mexico. I saw pictures from yesterday's press conference and there were hoards of fans and press there. I hope, if it is Sting, that at least he's happy. He's had a storied career, no one can dispute that. It just would've been better if he had capped it off with a one shot Wrestlemania match with The Undertaker. But, oh well, I guess there are some dream matches that will never be....

 

[Stinger90]

At the end of this episode of TNA, an ad aired on Spike similar to WWE's 2/21/11 videos. Is Sting making a return to TNA next week, why did TNA completely make a rip off of Undertaker's return videos?

Now wait just a minute. If this had been the WWE taking a shot at TNA or ROH, you would all be praising how clever and witty this was. One thing to remember kiddies is it has basically all been done to some degree. I watch WWE more than the others, but you have got to admit with all of the hype surrounding the 2/21/11 videos and speculations of who it was going to be, this was pretty funny.

 

[Lionheart]

Sting returning is a surprise, as he "walked away" from TNA four months ago. The surprise may not be to your liking, but it's surprising none the less, because most had him pegged to be WWE-bound.

No, this is not the issue. The issue is that this is what was promised by TNA:

"THIS THURSDAY, DON'T MISS THE FINAL MOMENTS OF IMPACT FOR THE MOST SHOCKING SURPRISE OF THE YEAR - GUARANTEED!!!"

Does anyone here agree that Sting reappearing on TNA programming lives up to this promise? Did anyone truly believe that he had walked away from TNA completely? No, I don't think so.

The verbiage above is a promise delivered by TNA to the fans that was clearly beyond their grasp to deliver. Nothing about this vignette changed the face of their program or my perception of it. It didn't affect the business in any sort of revolutionary way as the above promise would have you believe and I am quite certain it is not going to translate into any sort of drastic ratings improvement.

Tell it like it is: "Stay tuned after Impact to see bonus footage not seen by the audience in attendance!" See? That's the truth! Then your TV audience will have something to take away from the experience as opposed to being promised some incredible revelation that did not transpire.

 

[Green Bay Wisconsin]

The Problem with this is Sting returning isn't the "Most Shocking event of the year" or whatever they called it. They should never of hyped it like this. Just don't say anything, then play the video at the end of Impact. That would have worked fine.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

No, this is not the issue. The issue is that this is what was promised by TNA:

"THIS THURSDAY, DON'T MISS THE FINAL MOMENTS OF IMPACT FOR THE MOST SHOCKING SURPRISE OF THE YEAR - GUARANTEED!!!"

Does anyone here agree that Sting reappearing on TNA programming lives up to this promise? Did anyone truly believe that he had walked away from TNA completely? No, I don't think so.

The verbiage above is a promise delivered by TNA to the fans that was clearly beyond their grasp to deliver. Nothing about this vignette changed the face of their program or my perception of it. It didn't affect the business in any sort of revolutionary way as the above promise would have you believe and I am quite certain it is not going to translate into any sort of drastic ratings improvement.

Tell it like it is: "Stay tuned after Impact to see bonus footage not seen by the audience in attendance!" See? That's the truth! Then your TV audience will have something to take away from the experience as opposed to being promised some incredible revelation that did not transpire.

You wanna get upset over the semantics behind the verbiage used, by all means, dude, have at it, but it was a surprise. Whether it met your expectations or not is irrelevant.

In TNA's world Sting returning is shocking, because the majority of the wrestling world had him pegged for WWE/WrestleMania, which means him turning down the opportunity to do so to return to TNA is a shock, again, regardless of whether you personally found it shocking.

A lot of you folks have a very difficult time understanding what subjectivity is, and tend to refer to the reaction to these types of events, as well as the events themselves in generalities which is unfair to anyone who doesn't feel the same as you — and believe me, son, there are plenty of people who don't feel the same as you.

 

[Rasha]

Why didn't they do it after WWE ran its first 2-21-11 video? I tell you why because they drop the ball, they could had really kick wwe good by exposing 2-21-11, but they only know how to write story lines about they.

Here's a thought, smart guy; did they actually have a commitment from Sting when the WWE promos began? You know that for sure? My theory has been that the WWE left those promos open-ended so that, if they did sign Sting, he could've debuted on 2-21-11 and Undertaker would've just come back some other way. Obviously they couldn't land him so they went with Undertaker as the backup plan.

Don't agree with me? Then tell me... when was the last time Triple H came out to the ring and said NOTHING? Everything about that Taker/HHH segment came off as "last minute" and it tells me that they were simply the fallback for a failed attempt to sign Sting.

I could be totally wrong, but I doubt Russo or Bischoff would've let an opportunity to sabotage the WWE's attempted Sting hype pass if they had the means. But they didn't know that Sting was returning for sure until recently, so they couldn't set themselves up to have major egg on the face.

 

[harrythem]

See I agree that Sting possibly returning is a surprise, and a rather good one at that, but I will agree that saying it's the most shocking surprise of the year - GUARANTEED is over-selling it by a long shot. I didn't mind the 3-3-11 promo and would've probably enjoyed it even more if there hadn't been the tweet about the surprise being the biggest of the year. Just like the Rock's facebook before his Raw return dampened the shock of his return (but not the thrill) this has done the same to me, because I'd rather have just been going "oooh" at the end rather then waiting for it.

Still, be interesting to see what happens...as I'm refusing to read the spoilers and have it ruined for me

 

[Lionheart]

You wanna get upset over the semantics behind the verbiage used, by all means, dude, have at it, but it was a surprise. Whether it met your expectations or not is irrelevant.

In TNA's world Sting returning is shocking, because the majority of the wrestling world had him pegged for WWE/WrestleMania, which means him turning down the opportunity to do so to return to TNA is a shock, again, regardless of whether you personally found it shocking.

A lot of you folks have a very difficult time understanding what subjectivity is, and tend to refer to the reaction to these types of events, as well as the events themselves in generalities which is unfair to anyone who doesn't feel the same as you — and believe me, son, there are plenty of people who don't feel the same as you.

You're damn right I'll argue the semantics of the verbiage. It was nothing more then a bullshit tactic to attempt to gain ratings, a bullshit tactic that TNA has used time and again in the past 5 years with the same bullshit results. Oh, Golly, THEY are coming!! Oh, Golly, THEY are coming AGAIN!! Now HE is coming!! Tune in on 2.24.11 to find out that you have to tune in to 3.3.11 to find out who HEEEEEEE is!!

As a business you have a responsibility to deliver on what you promise. When you promise the shocking surprise OF THE YEAR, you better get that done. Otherwise, you're a fraud and you can only cry wolf so many times.

 

[Iversen]

Can't be bothered reading all 17 pages but just from what I've skimmed gonna give my two pence.

First off for those saying this is a big fuck off to WWE fans your missing something fundamental. WWE fans are the people TNA need to attract to watch TNA. It's not like theres that many floating voters. If TNA wants to compete with the E they need to attract the WWE fans. Taking the piss out of them thats not gonna help really.

It's a stupid idea in general. TNA need to start being TNA not being anti-WWE. If they went out there and said yea we know the WWE does 'sports entertainment' fair play to them but we're going to come out and give you wrestling. Solid great wrestling, that would gain them a shit load more support from me for one and I'm sure several other people. Ripping WWE off? Just seems childish. You can imagine them all s******ing round the table as they came up with the idea like little school children.

I suppose it will be Sting. Well no I'd be willing to bet a lot of money on it. I guess he'll come in anti-immortal. Make sense since of how he left. I'd like him to come in and play the lone-wolf. Would be interesting to see him say fuck who owns the company all I care about is the title and I'll take on anyone thats in my way and I'll take them out.

 

[It's Damn Real!]

You're damn right I'll argue the semantics of the verbiage. It was nothing more then a bullshit tactic to attempt to gain ratings, a bullshit tactic that TNA has used time and again in the past 5 years with the same bullshit results. Oh, Golly, THEY are coming!! Oh, Golly, THEY are coming AGAIN!! Now HE is coming!! Tune in on 2.24.11 to find out that you have to tune in to 3.3.11 to find out who HEEEEEEE is!!

As a business you have a responsibility to deliver on what you promise. When you promise the shocking surprise OF THE YEAR, you better get that done. Otherwise, you're a fraud and you can only cry wolf so many times.

I've explained this before: If TNA promotes an episode of iMPACT! by saying "This Thursday, Hulk Hogan will eat a baby, alive!" and then when iMPACT! comes, no baby is eaten, but rather Hogan delivers a promo talking about the money you could save by shopping for your furniture at Rent-A-Center, that is a bait-and-switch tactic. You were baited under the impression he'd eat a baby, but then switched during the programming into listening to a rant about Rent-A-Center.

If TNA teases an episode of iMPACT! with "The Biggest Surprise of the Year — Guaranteed!", they have made no promise, other than the fact that it's a surprise, as it being the biggest surprise is purely subjective and relative to the viewer. What I may take as the biggest surprise, you do not. This is not a bait-and-switch tactic, as you were not baited with a clear-cut expectation (other than what you may have conjured up of your own volition), and you were not subsequently not given that expectation.

You wanna be upset? Be upset, but it doesn't change the fact that TNA did an excellent job at capitalizing on a very tense and high-strung IWC topic. What you are whining about isn't a ubiquitous consensus. It's just a very personal complaint over the semantics of the verbiage TNA chooses to use.

 

[Rampage Bentley]

This is extremely disapointing... I wish Sting would realize that outside of him showing up in a WWE ring, he has absolutely no relevance what so ever.

I don't understand why he'd go back to a company where he's fought everyone and done everything. I'm more annoyed that he's going to be in TNA than I am willing to watch.

 

[huegtoad]

i have to agree, sting coming back to TNA isn't special at all, it's just sting doing what sting does and there is something to be said about humililty, but i would mark out to sting in wwe vs UT because i think they would find a way to make it look relevant and bring some mystery to it, i mean think about it, if you take HHH out of the monday raw segment and insert, long haired trenchcoat wearing crow sting, doing the same exact thing, circling ut, bat in hand,not saying a word pointing to WM27 sign, maybe lights dimmed a little bit, it's a moment of two of the most mysterious characters in the history of the business because they were so good at making you believe in their characters, now it's just two old attitude era dudes putting on a match because well, we like nostaligia, but that match has about as much significance as sting vs hardy well ok hardy is a bit mysterious but not that much