X-pac, The other DX members(Road dogg, Billy gunn, and chyna) do they make the HOF?

[GUMBO2ndcoming]

I was thinking about how much of an impact DX had on WWE over the years, i mean along with Austin and The Rock the lead the way in helping WWE beat WCW. Obviously Triple H and Shawn Michaels are shoo-ins. But what about the other guys and girl, Do they get in? Of course im referring to X-pac, The New age outlaws and Chyna.


If you ask me Chyna deserves to get in, she was there in the beginning with DX and rode the coat tails of their success but in her own wrestling career she was the first female IC champ, so how does that not get you in some day.

It's the other guys im iffy about. All three had decent runs as IC champ but fter it was mostly tag team gold. Billy Gunn is the next closest one to getting in my opinion. Although the singles career never really took off (even though the Mr. ass gimmick was quite funny) He has a distinguished tag team career, it didn't matter who you paired him with he won gold.

My question is how do you guys feel about this are the other members IN or OUT. Give me who's in and who's not and WHY?

 

[THE Madcap]

As soon as I saw this thread title, I thought an outright NO.

However, thinking about it, as a faction they should be added to the HOF, not individually. As a faction, DX had as much influence as The Rock and Stone Cold IMO. Individually, whilst they have made some accomplishments, they're not HOF worthy.

The Outlaws between them had held numerous tag team titles, the IC title and the Hardcore title. X-Pac also held the tag-titles as a DX member, as well as the European title and later on in his career the Cruiserweight title. Chyna, some may argue accomplished the most, being the 1st female IC champ and lady to be in the Royal Rumble. Not to mention, they sold a ton of merchandise and had legendary antics, such as invading New York and WCW.

It wuld be cool to see them inducted as a faction alongside Triple H, when he is inducted into the HOF when it is time for him to hang his boots up.

 

[The Brain]

I don't think any of them get in. Every one of them had the best year of their careers when they were together as DX. They were very popular and very successful that year. That's only one year and one year doesn't make a hall of famer. They were all around for a long time, but never accomplished much outside 1998. X Pac was only relevant if Razor or Hunter was around. Without them he was a low mid card guy. Road Dogg never did anything without Billy. I guess a case could be made for Billy, but I don't see it. He served a good role in three different tag teams, but was a total bust on his own. I suppose a case can be made for Chyna too, but I don't see that either. It was unique when she was wrestling men and she did hold the IC title, but she didn't have longevity. If she was wrestling the guys and holding titles throughout her four years then maybe. That only lasted a few months and I think it was more of a gimmicky fluke. Chyna is probably closest, but I don't think any should get in.

Actually besides HBK and HHH the most likely member to get it is Rick Rude.

 

[Fuel The Fire]

The Only one that I really see getting in the hof is billy gun.
Billy gun is a great wrestler and is able to keep him self out of trouble ..outside of the ring.
I would not be surprised to see him do some kind of run again in the wwe because you never know what will happen.
As for the other ones..i think their reputations outside the ring is not what the wwe is really looking for and would hurt the companies reputation by bringing them in the hof.

 

[Cookie14]

If it was based purely on what they accomplished then both Billy Gunn and 'Road Dogg' Jesse James deserve to get in based on what they accomplished as tag team wrestlers. I mean, Billy is 9 time tag champ? and James is 6/7 time tag champ? They are both worthy for that, and that is ignoring multiple IC, European and Hardcore title reigns (and a KoTR of Billy)

Chyna would also deserve her place (correct me if I'm wrong, but she would be the first wonam in WWE HOF) due to her IC title reign, being the first woman to compete in he Royal Rumble match and the first woman to compete in a WWE title match.

X-Pac deserves nothing, because he didn't really achieve anything during his entire WWE run.

However, none of these people are ever likely to get a place in the WWE HOF because of the way they have all bashed WWE since they left the company.
Sure, WWE can forgive and forget when it comes to Randy Savage or the Warrior, but how much money did they make for the WWE compared to NAO, X-Pac or Chyna?

These former DX members were never more than mid-card fodder, and will always be remembered (or forgotten) as a result of this. They were nothing special, on their own, or as a group, without their leaders.

 

[thesubverse]

Chyna wouldn't be anywhere near close to the first woman in the Hall of Fame. That being said, however, she deserves it probably more than any woman besides the Fabulous Moolah.

I could possibly see the Outlaws go in together, but can just as easily see them not making it due to their vocal criticisms of the company. Maybe sometime a long ways down the line, though.

As for Waltman, I highly doubt it. He had some memorable moments and is a personality not likely to be forgotten, but most of what he accomplished was mainly due to the work of those around him as opposed to what he himself did.

 

[Kingofthedeathmatch]

Although her backstage problems with HHH and Stephanie are going to prevent it, I think Chyna deserves to be in the HOF. She broke alot of barriers between female and male wrestling in the WWE, which a couple of years before really only featured women as valets.

Also, The New Age Outlaws should be inducted together since they've been a tag team for most of their respective careers and were successful fan-favorites who always got a reaction when they were in the ring or on the mic.

 

[The Brain]

If it was based purely on what they accomplished then both Billy Gunn and 'Road Dogg' Jesse James deserve to get in based on what they accomplished as tag team wrestlers. I mean, Billy is 9 time tag champ? and James is 6/7 time tag champ? They are both worthy for that, and that is ignoring multiple IC, European and Hardcore title reigns (and a KoTR of Billy)

Chyna would also deserve her place (correct me if I'm wrong, but she would be the first wonam in WWE HOF) due to her IC title reign, being the first woman to compete in he Royal Rumble match and the first woman to compete in a WWE title match.

X-Pac deserves nothing, because he didn't really achieve anything during his entire WWE run.

However, none of these people are ever likely to get a place in the WWE HOF because of the way they have all bashed WWE since they left the company.
Sure, WWE can forgive and forget when it comes to Randy Savage or the Warrior, but how much money did they make for the WWE compared to NAO, X-Pac or Chyna?

These former DX members were never more than mid-card fodder, and will always be remembered (or forgotten) as a result of this. They were nothing special, on their own, or as a group, without their leaders.

I disagree. The championships should be noted, but aren't really relevant in my opinion. Championships have been passed out like candy since the attitude era, especially in 1999. It's not like the baseball hall of fame where you can say 3,000 hits gets you in. In the scripted world of wrestling you need to have made a lasting impact. Title reigns help, but they don't mean as much as they used to.

By the way, there are at least four women in the hall of fame. Moolah, Sherri, Mae Youn, and Wendy Richter. There may be more, but those are four off the top of my head.

 

[Stevepwwe]

I can see the New Age Outlaws being inducted far along the line, not any time soon though. when they have aged and are completely out of the business I think they might have a chance of being added to the HOF together. She was the first woman to win the IC championship and also the first woman to compete in a royal rumble.
X-Pac I can't see being added. He didn't stand out as much as the others in my opinion, and he hasn't exactly kept a great relationship with the WWE since he left.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

It depends on how you look at it I suppose.

I could see the New Age Outlaws being inducted into the HOF. Both are multi-time WWF Tag Team Champions and were probably the most overall entertaining tag team of the Attitude Era. Both also had a run with the IC title. Just looking at their accomplishments, I could see them being inducted. I don't look for it to happen, however, as they've both pretty much burned their bridges with the WWE.

X-Pac, AKA Sean Waltman, is extremely overrated. He owes his entire career to the fact that he made some powerful friends that were extremely well connected backstage in both the WWF and WCW. Any success he garnered was due to riding the coattails of other more talented and/or more connected wrestlers. I don't believe he belongs in the HOF and he's little more than a joke right now really. His bizarre personal life and drug problems have overshadowed anything he's accomplished in wrestling.

Chyna is basically the same as Sean Waltman. She's become something of a joke in wrestling and her exploits in her personal life and on various reality tv shows has far overshadowed anything she's ever really done in wrestling.

 

[CuddleBuns84]

When it comes to Triple H and Shawn Michaels, the answer is yes. They have accomplished more, then most people.

When it comes to the rest... No, because they could do nothing without each other. Other stables or factions have broken apart and started their own things and became famous.

Look at the 4 horsemen. Chris Benoit went out, and did something else. Arn Anderson was already one of the greats, and Flair was still a main event.

The nWo broke up, Hogan still main evented. Nash and Hall had some good matches. Baggwell and Steiner excelled.

Evolution... Orton and Batista have gone out, and made huge impact on the wrestling world.

DX... Bill Gunn last big thing was a commitment ceremony with Chuck. X-pac had a sex video, and Jesse James sang some great songs... Hall of Fame Denied!

 

[Cookie14]

I disagree. The championships should be noted, but aren't really relevant in my opinion. Championships have been passed out like candy since the attitude era, especially in 1999. It's not like the baseball hall of fame where you can say 3,000 hits gets you in. In the scripted world of wrestling you need to have made a lasting impact. Title reigns help, but they don't mean as much as they used to.

By the way, there are at least four women in the hall of fame. Moolah, Sherri, Mae Youn, and Wendy Richter. There may be more, but those are four off the top of my head.

Thanks for the reminder, can't believe I forgot all of those women, especially seeing as Richter only went in this year.

I also understand where you are coming from about titles not meaning as much as they used to and begn passed around a lot, but this is/was mainly singles titles. Tag titles didn't get passed about anywhere near as much (again, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me if you can prove it)

The fact remains, title reigns ARE the relevant factor as to why someone/a tag team should be remembered, unless they have dome something that preceeds any title reign.

A few examples,

Ric Flair will always be known as the 16 time world champion, regardless of anything else he did, however, Hulk Hogan will always be known for being the face of wrestling during the 80's/90's.
Shawn Michaels title reigns aren't as important, because we remember him instead for his incredible matches, just like Randy Savage.
Undertaker will be remembered for his WM streak.

If you are not in the HOF based on having a number of title reigns, then you need something else to get you in there. None ot these former DX members have anything else that they will be remembered for, apart from what I have already mentioned.

 

[Chadmw]

First of all Chyna would not be the first woman in the HOF. The Faboulous Mollah and Wendy Richter are already there, And I believe there maybe a couple more.

DX as a group should definately be in the HOF, but seperately the only one I can see going in is maybe Chyna as she was once one of the most powerful women in the WWE/F for a long time.

The only way Road Dogg and Gunn get in is if they go in together as the new age outlaw as neither of them did anything impressive in there single carreers

As for X-pac, he never really did anything HOF worthy so I would have to say no, but mind you if Koko can get in anyone can get in

 

[mulvey187]

I think that they deserves to be introducted except x-pac.
Chyna won the intercontinental title,the womans title and had great fueds with the right to censor and chris jericho and really brough some athletiscism to the womand division.
The New Age Outlaws are 5 time tag team champions nd 1 of the funniest and most innfluential teams ever.no other tag team ever could have 20 thousand people saying the exact same thing in the same rythem as them.x-pac then was great at the time but after his run with d-x faded in to obscurity with the more poopular outsiders as a part of the nwo (wwe) and the band

 

[GameOver]

All of the made no impact outside of the Attitude era.

The New Age Outlaws were great as a tag team and very entertaining and between them held alot of titles, so that alone should get them into the HOF at some point. Won't be any time soon though unless they have noone else to induct at the time.

I'd say it's more likely Billy Gunn would get in over Road Dogg if either of them did. Billy was by far the more successfull of the two.

Chyna should get in purely for the ground her character broke, other than that she didn't do anything more than be a sideshow freak, and her constant personal issues leading to her departure from WWE and steady decline beyoind that would keep her out of contention for a while to come.

X-Pac has no chance unless they are really desperate. his only claim to fame was beating Razor Ramon when he was a WWF noob and then praising drug use while in DX. And for those in the know he was banging Chyna for a while.

Who they chose to be inductees seems to be completely random, i mean ya'd think they would've inducted people in some semblence of order of there time in the business.
Sure they can't guarentee to be able to get people on a given WrestleMania eve day to be able to be inducted or have a representitve but when you have Koko B Ware being inducted ahead of say Ted Dibiase and people in the Attitude era being inducted well b4 people from the 60's you are like WTF?

Guess it doesn't matter the HOF is a joke anyway, the idea was great to start with but with limited people being available or willing to put there names in it who they can induct will vary alot.

 

[The Brain]

Thanks for the reminder, can't believe I forgot all of those women, especially seeing as Richter only went in this year.

I also understand where you are coming from about titles not meaning as much as they used to and begn passed around a lot, but this is/was mainly singles titles. Tag titles didn't get passed about anywhere near as much (again, if I'm wrong, feel free to correct me if you can prove it)

The fact remains, title reigns ARE the relevant factor as to why someone/a tag team should be remembered, unless they have dome something that preceeds any title reign.

A few examples,

Ric Flair will always be known as the 16 time world champion, regardless of anything else he did, however, Hulk Hogan will always be known for being the face of wrestling during the 80's/90's.
Shawn Michaels title reigns aren't as important, because we remember him instead for his incredible matches, just like Randy Savage.
Undertaker will be remembered for his WM streak.

If you are not in the HOF based on having a number of title reigns, then you need something else to get you in there. None ot these former DX members have anything else that they will be remembered for, apart from what I have already mentioned.

Title reigns are relevant, but not nearly as relevant as they were before 1997. The New Age Outlaws won their first title in November 1997 and lost their last in February 2000. In between there were 23 title changes. Demolition won their first title in March 1988 and lost their last in August 1990. That's pretty close to the time the Outlaws had their titles. There were four title changes between Demolition's first and last reign. Being three time champions Demoltion was involved in each change. My point is title reigns are not nearly as prestigious as they once were. I admit the Outlaws were good champions. They had a good run. I just don't think it was a hall of fame run. In my opinion after 1997 titles alone don't get you in the hall. You said none of the DX memebers have anything else and that's why I don't think they'll get in.

 

[1truefan]

Im not sure about the other members of DX but along side HHH and HBK I would definitely say Chyna I mean her track record speaks for itself scripted or not 1st woman to compete in Royal Rumble and King of the Ring as well as a two time IC champion and womens champion. carrying gold does not carry much weight but I would say just paving the way for women in the WWE such as Trish and Lita etc. It is my opinion that she made you pay attention to the Divas as more than eye candy she was a winning woman and definitely HOF worthy. She was the reason HHH retained some titles but thats just my opinion.

 

[The Brain]

Im not sure about the other members of DX but along side HHH and HBK I would definitely say Chyna I mean her track record speaks for itself scripted or not 1st woman to compete in Royal Rumble and King of the Ring as well as a two time IC champion and womens champion. carrying gold does not carry much weight but I would say just paving the way for women in the WWE such as Trish and Lita etc. It is my opinion that she made you pay attention to the Divas as more than eye candy she was a winning woman and definitely HOF worthy. She was the reason HHH retained some titles but thats just my opinion.

A lot of people are saying Chyna paved the way for a lot of women, but I don't think that's true. She was the first woman to hold the IC title, but she's also the only woman to hold the IC title. Paving the way means to be the first to do something which allows others to follow the road you paved. If she paved the way more women would have competed for the men's championship. Chyna was nothing like the other women in the WWF. Don't take this the wrong way, but I look at her like Zach Gowen. Giving the IC title to a woman was a gimmick just to do something different, just like a wrestler with one leg. I respect Chyna and the role she played as Triple H's bodyguard. She had a nice role during her time with WWF. I wouldn't be surprised to see her get in the hall of fame, but if I had a vote I would vote no.

 

[Hollywood Naitch]

I could see Chyna going into the HOF at some point for the barriers she broke in wrestling, although her lack of longetivity could be an issue.

The Outlaws? As a duo, maybe. they had a lot of success in the WWE, and were one of the key teams during the lat 90s attitude era boom period. As singles wrestlers they were nothing special, but the magic happened when they teamed up


And as for X-Pac, as much as i found him entertaining, he really didnt accomplish much in the WWE, did he ever even reach IC title level? I dont think he did? So no to him

 

[The Viper Orton]

Chyna and Billy gunn deserves it but they wont now cause WWE is PG now and if they gave HOF to the ones who broke the rules linda would look bad. Also for gunn, he went to TNA, you never know if vince has all that hatred.

 

[Ruthless-RKO]

X-pac, Road dogg, Billy gunn, and chyna

Yeh.. i could see all four of the ones mentioned in...but maybe when they are in their 50's...non of them have really finished with wrestling yet...X-pac the main one out of them..

Chyna should go in ..and why wouldn't you put in the new aged outlaws...

 

[Reddannihilation]

X-Pac probably would, I don't know why so many people dislike him. Sure I get the whole politics thing, but Waltman had some great matches. Probably the most notable was his match against Bret Hart on RAW for the WWF title. If guys like Koko B. Ware are able to make it into the HOF then I don't see how X-Pac is somehow unworthy. The Outlaws have somewhat less of a chance, seeing as their relationship with HBK and HHH isn't exactly the best (Anyone remember the Voodoo Kin Mafia?). Chyna I think is very worthy of a HOF entry as her and Sable pretty much made women's wrestling legitimate in the late 90's and paved the way for Trish, Lita and even Beth Phoneix.

So for me it's a yes on Pac and Chyna and a not likely for the Road Dogg Jesse James and the Badass Billy Gunn.

 

[2Xtreme]

I think there is a very slim chance but if any of them do, it has got to be Chyna.
Come on, she won Intercontinental Title, first female to compete in the Royal Rumble, dominated the women's division for a little and yeah..
If any of them do it has to be her, imo.