WWE Summerslam: Roman Reigns VS Randy Orton

[That N Word]

We learned last night on Monday Night Raw that it will be "The Juggarnaut" Roman Reigns facing off against "The Corporate Viper" Randy Orton. This is a discussion thread. This is for thoughts and opinions. I noticed it wasn't already a thread so I took the liberty to make it myself.

 

[MartialHorror]

Personally, I was kind of disinterested because Orton hasn't been booked as a legit threat (needing Kane, but still losing) while Reigns has been booked too much as an unstoppable force. But I have become more hopeful since Orton has taken a step up in bad-assery. I actually hope Orton wins, because Im tired of seeing Roman 'on top' all of the time...and I say this as a Roman Reigns fan.

 

[kadroan]

Personally, I was kind of disinterested because Orton hasn't been booked as a legit threat (needing Kane, but still losing) while Reigns has been booked too much as an unstoppable force. But I have become more hopeful since Orton has taken a step up in bad-assery. I actually hope Orton wins, because Im tired of seeing Roman 'on top' all of the time...and I say this as a Roman Reigns fan.

Yeah, I hate Orton's been looking weak since he turned heel at Summerslam last year.

I like how they made Reigns look vulnerable on last week's RAW with Orton's aggressive. I'm not sure if they'll let this feud go past Summerslam since there's a rumored HHH/Reigns showdown at NoC.

I'm hoping they let these two have a legit long term feud like Ambrose/Rollins. Orton is no pushover.

 

[HBsam31]

I agree with Orton not being a real threat anymore, but it is still a huge name for Reigns to go over. I almost rather would have seen Reigns vs HHH. I have never been a huge Orton fan, and he has seemingly been an after thought lately. Reigns gets the victory at Summerslam.

 

[Mustang Sally]

I agree with Orton not being a real threat anymore, but it is still a huge name for Reigns to go over.

That's the size of it, wouldn't you say? These days, Randy seems to be bridging the gap between superstar and enhancement talent. His association with The Authority, while keeping him at (or near) main event status, is also the vehicle that's causing us to think less of him in terms of wearing a title belt on his own merit. In other words, he may again be a world champion, but only because of interference from Authority figures such as Triple H or Kane.

Meanwhile, we know where Roman Reigns is headed. Wisely, WWE Creative isn't simply shooting him to the top while making him appear superhuman, as I originally thought they might. Instead, he's been taking his lumps from the usual double-teaming and sneak attacks all good guys have to suffer.

Anything can happen here, yet I'll go with Randy Orton for the win.....if for nothing else than to keep him from being viewed as a total corporate stooge. I think the company gets more mileage out of Randy by having him emerge as the victor in this one.

Roman Reigns, meanwhile, has all the time in the world to reach the top.

If the Orton-Reigns showdown were definitely a one-match deal, I'd say Roman wins at Summerslam. But since programs are now often stretched out over several contests, I wouldn't be surprised if Orton wins this one .....thereby pissing off Reigns and making his ultimate conquest of Orton a sweeter deal.....but on another day.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

That's the size of it, wouldn't you say? These days, Randy seems to be bridging the gap between superstar and enhancement talent. His association with The Authority, while keeping him at (or near) main event status, is also the vehicle that's causing us to think less of him in terms of wearing a title belt on his own merit. In other words, he may again be a world champion, but only because of interference from Authority figures such as Triple H or Kane.

Meanwhile, we know where Roman Reigns is headed. Wisely, WWE Creative isn't simply shooting him to the top while making him appear superhuman, as I originally thought they might. Instead, he's been taking his lumps from the usual double-teaming and sneak attacks all good guys have to suffer.

Anything can happen here, yet I'll go with Randy Orton for the win.....if for nothing else than to keep him from being viewed as a total corporate stooge. I think the company gets more mileage out of Randy by having him emerge as the victor in this one.

Roman Reigns, meanwhile, has all the time in the world to reach the top.

If the Orton-Reigns showdown were definitely a one-match deal, I'd say Roman wins at Summerslam. But since programs are now often stretched out over several contests, I wouldn't be surprised if Orton wins this one .....thereby pissing off Reigns and making his ultimate conquest of Orton a sweeter deal.....but on another day.

The money match is Reigns vs Triple H, not Orton. So really, Orton is just a stepping stone in The Authority. It's hard to know what their mid-term plans are over the next few PPVs, but I assume Reigns/Triple H will happen at either Night of Champions or at Hell In A Cell. If Orton goes over Reigns at SummerSlam, I can only see it being because of interference from Triple H... allowing Reigns to move on to the bigger feud.

 

[MartialHorror]

The problem is if Reigns loses this match, then there is no reason he would 'upgrade' to Triple H. He would HAVE to get over Randy Orton in some capacity, although I guess it could happen on the following RAW.

Ugh, Orton needs to get out of the authority as it's holding down his relevance. Even the whole 'bringing back the legend killer' angle isn't enough, or am I supposed to be impressed that he kicked the shit out of a guy by blindsiding him? Losing to Ambrose and Ziggler isn't helping much either. Reigns on the other hand, is unstoppable. Since Reigns continues to dominate, it implies Orton will win.

But if it's Triple H whom Reigns is really going to feud with at the next PPV, then it would only make sense for the story if Reigns wins...making Orton unimportant.

 

[CrucifiedRaven]

The problem is if Reigns loses this match, then there is no reason he would 'upgrade' to Triple H. He would HAVE to get over Randy Orton in some capacity, although I guess it could happen on the following RAW.

Ugh, Orton needs to get out of the authority as it's holding down his relevance. Even the whole 'bringing back the legend killer' angle isn't enough, or am I supposed to be impressed that he kicked the shit out of a guy by blindsiding him? Losing to Ambrose and Ziggler isn't helping much either. Reigns on the other hand, is unstoppable. Since Reigns continues to dominate, it implies Orton will win.

But if it's Triple H whom Reigns is really going to feud with at the next PPV, then it would only make sense for the story if Reigns wins...making Orton unimportant.

I think Orton is unimportant at this point. Especially if Lesnar is going to be the #1 heel for the next several months. Orton's place in The Authority will be given to Seth Rollins... And it's better for Orton to go off on his own, still as a heel, but away from the WWE title picture. I think his days of holding the title are behind him.

 

[MartialHorror]

But what's the point of booking a match with such a safe outcome? If Roman Reigns dominates nearly every confrontation he has, what would a PPV victory achieve? To make a win over Orton satisfying, he would need to get his ass kicked by him a lot more.

 

[Good Golly It's Ollie]

Being a shameless Orton mark who believes that Orton is underrated by a lot of the fanbase, I can say with gusto that I am looking forward to this match. Reasons why:

1) Long time in the making
Build has been long with numerous encounters, but this time is the big 1v1 match.

2) Should lead to a showdown with "The Boss"
Some people have said this is a stepping stone for Reigns to face Helmsley. Yeah, so what? Just because this is not the final match in the story doesn't prevent it from being good.

3) Orton is genuinely good at working the crowd
When they're not determined to throw him shitty chants, Orton is good at working them (He is also good at dealing with said shitty chants). Example: See Orton mockingly gesturing to his ear from this week's Raw.

In fairness I think Reigns can pump the crowd up too, once it gets to finishing move time.

4) Reigns and Orton are both badass mofos
Yes, this is a real reason. It feels climactic, even if Orton isn't the "main villain" at the moment. Orton just gives off this dangerous, crazy edge, and Reigns is straightforward and blunt. I like both of these guys for the directness of their characters.

And there you have it. If the match turns out to be rubbish I will still have enjoyed the characters taking part.

 

[wwesux]

I don t see Randy Orton losing now that he is aligned with the Authority Seth ROllins should interfere or Kane who knows but I see Randy winning he lost at a house show but it doesn t mean he ll lose again! I hate ROman Reigns he fits in tag team action

 

[Reflection]

What happens to Randy Orton if he loses this match? Where does he go from here? Whom does he feud with? I don't see many options open, apart from Cesaro, Bray Wyatt, and maybe Dean Ambrose, if his feud with Seth Rollins is ended too. I see Randy Orton acting as a catalyst for whichever of the three he feuds with next as well. Is that what Randy Orton's role will be limited to for the foreseeable future?

 

[L@RISANO]

What happens to Randy Orton if he loses this match? Where does he go from here? Whom does he feud with? I don't see many options open, apart from Cesaro, Bray Wyatt, and maybe Dean Ambrose, if his feud with Seth Rollins is ended too. I see Randy Orton acting as a catalyst for whichever of the three he feuds with next as well. Is that what Randy Orton's role will be limited to for the foreseeable future?

I did a thread on it some time ago, but I would love to see Randy Orton in a storyline feud with Bray Wyatt at some point, maybe after NoC.

Orton gets beat by Reigns at SummerSlam and goes off for a break until after NoC(when I assume, Y2J will leave and his feud with Wyatt will end) and then he can be targeted by Wyatt and be the first guy to be actually manipulated by the Wyatt family. Might help give Orton some perspective going forward, because like Cena, he doesn't have much 'fresh' stuff he can actually do...

 

[MCMG]

I'm really looking forward to this. Reigns' has progressed well as a singles star and I think these two can deliver. Of course, it depends on which Orton turns up but, I'm optimistic that this can be Roman's best match yet.

Reigns must win this match. Trading wins can be infuriating and this would be a prime example. Let Reigns beat Orton at Summerslam (and maybe again) before a match with HHH.

 

[Reflection]

Orton gets beat by Reigns at SummerSlam and goes off for a break until after NoC(when I assume, Y2J will leave and his feud with Wyatt will end) and then he can be targeted by Wyatt and be the first guy to be actually manipulated by the Wyatt family. Might help give Orton some perspective going forward, because like Cena, he doesn't have much 'fresh' stuff he can actually do...

I like the idea of Randy Orton embracing the hate and joining Bray Wyatt. First of all, like you said, Randy Orton has been doing the same stuff for quite a while now, so it will be cool to see him play something new. Secondly, Bray Wyatt has failed to recruit any new member or release the devil in anyone (except D-Bry for a couple of weeks) since debuting. Thirdly, Randy Orton has been showing frustration with the Authority for some time now, streaming from him not getting another shot at the WWE Championship, so another loss might push him over the line.

 

[nightmare]

Randy Orton becoming part of The Wyatts is a terrible idea & makes no sense. Kane would have been, but they kinda dropped that, likely because there is no need to add another family member anytime soon- if ever.


Randy will go on being just fine. They are building tension between him & the Authority that will probably end up with him fighting Hunter at some point. Until then he has options. All it will take is a simple backstage segment of running into someone at the wrong time or Randy taking offence to something a guy says. He has a short fuse & it wont take much to put together a quick feud with someone.



As far as the match with Reigns goes, I dont think Randy goes over. They are pushing Roman and a loss at a big PPV makes no sense. Orton puts him over & Roman goes on to a new challenge.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Yeah, Reigns should win this. Orton has already begun the tension with the Authority, and losing to Reigns will only add to that, being that he "couldn't get the job done."

 

[L@RISANO]

Randy Orton becoming part of The Wyatts is a terrible idea & makes no sense. Kane would have been, but they kinda dropped that, likely because there is no need to add another family member anytime soon- if ever.


Randy will go on being just fine. They are building tension between him & the Authority that will probably end up with him fighting Hunter at some point. Until then he has options. All it will take is a simple backstage segment of running into someone at the wrong time or Randy taking offence to something a guy says. He has a short fuse & it wont take much to put together a quick feud with someone.



As far as the match with Reigns goes, I dont think Randy goes over. They are pushing Roman and a loss at a big PPV makes no sense. Orton puts him over & Roman goes on to a new challenge.

Randy obviously wouldn't be joining the Wyatt family permanently, just would be manipulated by the guy who anoints himself with the title,'Eater of the Worlds'.
Also, with the re-introduction of 'the Viper' persona by Orton...him being manipulated by the Wyatts with such a persona would be interesting, especially if the WWE allows a bit more edge.

As for Randy Orton vs HHH part 103828488....no thanks.

 

[L@RISANO]

I like the idea of Randy Orton embracing the hate and joining Bray Wyatt. First of all, like you said, Randy Orton has been doing the same stuff for quite a while now, so it will be cool to see him play something new. Secondly, Bray Wyatt has failed to recruit any new member or release the devil in anyone (except D-Bry for a couple of weeks) since debuting. Thirdly, Randy Orton has been showing frustration with the Authority for some time now, streaming from him not getting another shot at the WWE Championship, so another loss might push him over the line.

Indeed.

As said; the fact that Bray Wyatt has basically 'failed' in all his feuds makes one wonder how much WWE values the character itself and what level heel they consider him to be.

Make him actually manipulate someone that matters by allowing some edgy stuff if possible, and his heel level will no doubt go through the roof,lMO.

Also, as said; Randy Orton is at such a level right now, that only a truly fresh programme would get him noticed....and no, not another programme with Triple H(who also needs to get off TV for awhile after he puts Reigns over)

 

[stingray11214]

Reigns not only has to beat RKO at SummerSlam, he NEEDS to beat RKO at SummerSlam. Who else does VKM have to destroy Lesnar at WM31?

 

[HBKistheHOF]

Reigns vs. Orton is the match I'm looking forward to the most after Ambrose vs. Rollins, pretty much just because it features Roman Reigns in his first singles match on PPV.

Unfortunately that is basically where my interest peaks. This match really should have been Triple H vs. Roman Reigns considering Summerslam is the 2nd biggest event of the year & as far as storyline goes the Orton/Reigns feud really has nothing going for it. Not to mention the match is one of several plain singles matches on the card & there have been reports of Orton performing poorly at house shows, so it may be difficult for this match to really stand out or make any kind of an impact. Which could really suck considering this seems like a rather big cross roads in Reigns' career & could be the difference maker as to whether or not the WWE goes ahead with his big push as planned.

Hopefully though, the match will get the time it rightfully deserves on Sunday & Reigns/Orton will surprise us with a show stealing performance that launches Roman Reigns into the stratosphere.

 

[Dagger Dias]

This should be pretty good. I'm a fan of both wrestlers and they are capable of putting on a decent match here. Randy really doesn't gain that much from winning, he'd be able to get back into the World Heavyweight Championship picture at pretty much any time and a loss here will not damage him. Roman, on the other hand, will benefit a great deal from a victory in this match. Having failed to capture the World Heavyweight Championship for the last two PPV events, he can prove that he belongs further up the card if he wins this match. I can see Randy being booked very strongly here, only to get hit by a spear and Roman wins. The match will probably go on during the middle but toward the end of the evening.

DAGGER'S PREDICTION
Roman Reigns will defeat Randy Orton.