WWE Royal Rumble 1/26/14 LD

[MrHashasheen]

Or hell, have Barrett come out to do the tease about Bryan not going to be no. 30 and then have Bryan hit him on the way down. The rage suddenly turning to joy would have been glorious.

 

[ABMorales787]

So I guess the WWE World Heavyweight Championship Match has only 1 wrestler in it? See I always thought there were at least TWO wrestlers. Sometimes they even have MORE then 2 wrestlers.

And Batista belongs there as he's a bigger star and brings more buys then Daniel Bryan. Just like why The Rock belonged higher in the card at Mania then CM Punk.

How dumb are you? When over 20,000 people hijack your show to chant for one guy every week for over 8 months, you fucking listen. Not alienate them.

It's obvious Batista is in the main event because of his role in Guardians Of The Galaxy. There's just one problem. The fucking movie is scheduled for August. We've seen Batista as a top star for years. We know what he can do. The crowd wants something new. That something new is Daniel Bryan. This would be like the 1998 Royal Rumble with Steve Austin totally omitted from it.

 

[lil steroid meat]

The Rumble started off well I thought and then massively decreased towards the end. They wasted Rumble places on superstars that didn't need push or even deserved to be in there, A lot of tag teams went into there tonight? There not the ones who need the push it's the lone superstars who are getting used wrongly as jobbers who need that. The Usos, JBL and Possibly The Wyatt's places could of went elsewhere to more deserving superstars.

Why give Batista the win? We all knew it from a mile off that he would win it but Batista has a name and wouldn't be short of a setting up a normal storyline not via RR. They has the perfect chance to give a young talent a chance on the biggest stage of the them all why crafting a interesting story line between him and his ex/fellow teammates Rollins and Ambrose integrating into his title push.

Perfect Storyline: Regins wins. Shield get rid of him after he gets rid of them both. Starts rivalry with Orton. Orton hires Ambrose and Rollins and creates a alliance with them who are still a tag team. Orton V Rollins at WM30. Ambrose and Rollins get tag titles push. Orton v Rollins= Rollins win. Dubbed the new legend killer. Fairytale like story. In the coming weeks Ambrose v Rollins v Regins setting up rivalry for a storyline including the title. Giving three fresh new talents and chance.

Creative need to listen to the Fans and Critics for Mania. Have the right matches and crowd pleasers and not bore fests

Still woulda been the wrong thing to do because Bryan would be taking the L.

Should have turned Bryan at the end of the Rumble for him to win it. Place would have exploded.

 

[klunderbunker]

Exactly... so I guess the AE wasn't the crippling wrecking ball of garbage some believe it was.

For the long term in ring product, indeed it was.

 

[The Holy One]

There's also a noticeable difference b/w the Rock's comeback and Batista's. The people were actually excited for one when he came back and lukewarm at best for the other. I'll let you decide which was which.

 

[#tamale]

Did he have the Gracie Jiu Jitsu logo on his tights?

But yeah, the arm accessories and the weird length tights and the half tennis shoe half wrestling boot combo was all around an off putting look.

Yeah it had that logo. The tights looked weird. He needs to find better ring gear and quick.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

And as far as Stormy saying Batista's a bigger star than DB.... not anymore. Rock is still a bigger star, not Batista.

 

[klunderbunker]

There's also a noticeable difference b/w the Rock's comeback and Batista's. The people were actually excited for one when he came back and lukewarm at best for the other. I'll let you decide which was which.

To be fair, Batista was announced for weeks and Rock was a total surprise. Also it was about twice as long of an absence.

 

[lil steroid meat]

Yet they're making a fortune and are on top of the world. Interesting how that works.

That's moreso due to them having a monopoly on mainstream pro wrestling than the quality of the product.

 

[Барбоса]

The hottest act in wrestling doesn't always win the Royal Rumble.

True but they are usually given a bigger billing than curtain jerker.

Did you watch the conclusion of the match? He was pretty much heeling it up rather well. Sure he entered a face (a returning legend always is a face even if they left as a heel) but by the end he was a heel.

That was Batista showing how pissed he was at the fans' treatment of him. Not a scripted heel turn.

Although it could easily be retconned as one.

 

[klunderbunker]

That's moreso due to them having a monopoly on mainstream pro wrestling than the quality of the product.

They had a monopoly in 2001 and made far les money.

 

[lil steroid meat]

Did he have the Gracie Jiu Jitsu logo on his tights?

But yeah, the arm accessories and the weird length tights and the half tennis shoe half wrestling boot combo was all around an off putting look.

Air Jordan 28's.

Hope they incorporate his odd fashion choices (the tight ass jeans, the Jordans for a wrestling match) into his character.

Hollywood Batista.

 

[Stormtrooper]

And as far as Stormy saying Batista's a bigger star than DB.... not anymore. Rock is still a bigger star, not Batista.

so what major movie is Daniel Bryan in? Until Daniel Bryan gets a major role in a major motion picture (or anything major outside of wrestling) Batista is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him in terms of stardom.

Don't be stupid. Yeah Bryan is a better wrestler. Yeah I would have preferred Bryan winning. But he didn't and I'm not upset because everyone and their mother knew Batista was winning as soon as he was announced as returning.

 

[The Holy One]

To be fair, Batista was announced for weeks and Rock was a total surprise. Also it was about twice as long of an absence.

But doesn't it still show much bigger and better the Rock is than Batista? I mean why should Batista get Rock type treatment when he's clearly not on the same level? I'm totally fine with him having a high profile match at WM, hell I might say that I'm fine with him winning the Rumble, but just don't justify it by saying "it's b/c he's that big of a deal" when he's clearly not.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

For the long term in ring product, indeed it was.

Some years are more storyline heavy while others focus on wrestling. I have no idea how that hurt wrestling going forward. WWE has gotten less and less creative with the stories it tells. That's a pretty big issue when your show is a soap opera for men and children. Watching the same guys have the same fake matches week after week with weak stories (outside of Mania season) probably isn't the best recipe for long term success.

 

[Nate DaMac]

so what major movie is Daniel Bryan in? Until Daniel Bryan gets a major role in a major motion picture (or anything major outside of wrestling) Batista is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him in terms of stardom.

For a movie that hasn't even been fucking advertised yet?

 

[smizzy]

WWE decision makers should try the old concept of: one for the fans, one for themselves. Not exclusively the latter.

 

[The_Reptile_]

so what major movie is Daniel Bryan in? Until Daniel Bryan gets a major role in a major motion picture (or anything major outside of wrestling) Batista is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him in terms of stardom.

Don't be stupid. Yeah Bryan is a better wrestler. Yeah I would have preferred Bryan winning. But he didn't and I'm not upset because everyone and their mother knew Batista was winning as soon as he was announced as returning.

And again, the issue isn't that people are shocked that Batista won and are pissed. It that they knew he was winning the instant his return was announced and wanted anyone but him. As much as I love Roman Reigns, do you think the crowd would have cheered him as much as they did tonight if it were anyone else with him in that ring at the end?

 

[lil steroid meat]

Jesus, If they had played the start of Bryan's music and had Barrett interrupt it. Bigger heat than Hogan turning.

I'm almost mad that they didn't do this if they weren't going to have Bryan in it.

Would have been such a great mixture of kayfabe and legit heat.

Shoulda did that and then tied it into the Authority somehow. Have the Mr. McMahon character come out tomorrow and do one last run, about how Bryan doesn't "look like a star".

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

so what major movie is Daniel Bryan in? Until Daniel Bryan gets a major role in a major motion picture (or anything major outside of wrestling) Batista is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him in terms of stardom.

Don't be stupid. Yeah Bryan is a better wrestler. Yeah I would have preferred Bryan winning. But he didn't and I'm not upset because everyone and their mother knew Batista was winning as soon as he was announced as returning.

You shouldn't call others stupid when you're incapable of grasping onto the topic YOU chose - PPV buys. Daniel Bryan is a bigger WRESTLING PPV draw right now than Batista. Fact.

 

[klunderbunker]

But doesn't it still show much bigger and better the Rock is than Batista? I mean why should Batista get Rock type treatment when he's clearly not on the same level? I'm totally fine with him having a high profile match at WM, hell I might say that I'm fine with him winning the Rumble, but just don't justify it by saying "it's b/c he's that big of a deal" when he's clearly not.

We're actually debating Rock vs. Batista? Why would I waste my time with that?

I have no problem with him winning the Rumble. He's not the best thing ever and there are better options at the moment, but he's not David Otunga.

Some years are more storyline heavy while others focus on wrestling. I have no idea how that hurt wrestling going forward. WWE has gotten less and less creative with the stories it tells. That's a pretty big issue when your show is a soap opera for men and children. Watching the same guys have the same fake matches week after week with weak stories (outside of Mania season) probably isn't the best recipe for long term success.

Wrestling fans are no longer as patient as they used to be. Now if you go more than fifteen minutes, it's expected to have at least one swerve, two run ins and three finishers kicked out of. The idea of a slower paced match leading to a hot finish has become a relic and that's a shame. Also the idea of taking away villains vs. heroes was horrible and would be proven wrong inside of a month if given the chance.

 

[Danger Burger]

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[lil steroid meat]

so what major movie is Daniel Bryan in? Until Daniel Bryan gets a major role in a major motion picture (or anything major outside of wrestling) Batista is LIGHT YEARS ahead of him in terms of stardom.

Nah man.

Movie hasn't even been advertised yet. Batista isn't a movie star yet. General audience does not even know what GOTG is, probably won't even know it's a Marvel property when it does start getting promo. Even when it does come out, him being champion would have nothing to do with it. They will still get the cross promotion by him just being a superstar.

More people may know who Batista is, because he was second to Cena in WWE's 3rd biggest era, but don't get name recognition confused with popularity.

WWE definitely would have benefited more from Bryan winning. Batista never really was an exceptional draw. Anyone with muscles could have played his role in history.

He got nice numbers last week because it was his first night back and everyone gets nice numbers on their big return.

 

[Stormtrooper]

How dumb are you? When over 20,000 people hijack your show to chant for one guy every week for over 8 months, you fucking listen. Not alienate them.

It's obvious Batista is in the main event because of his role in Guardians Of The Galaxy. There's just one problem. The fucking movie is scheduled for August. We've seen Batista as a top star for years. We know what he can do. The crowd wants something new. That something new is Daniel Bryan. This would be like the 1998 Royal Rumble with Steve Austin totally omitted from it.

So why don't we ever celebrate Eddie Guerrero's Royal Rumble victory? Oh yeah because while he was ridiculously over they went with some other guy to win the rumble even though he wasn't as over, and it was a giant mistake.

And to a bit lesser of note Zack Ryder was ridiculously over too yet he never did anything of note in a rumble, yet alone win one.

For a movie that hasn't even been fucking advertised yet?

yes, because it's already been widely reported. PLUS when it is advertised Batista will be the champ.

 

[Vega]

Also the idea of taking away villains vs. heroes was horrible and would be proven wrong inside of a month if given the chance.

This is a huge topic for itself, but I think constant turns damaging character integrity is a much bigger problem than shades of grey. If characters mantain their integrity it's doable and opens up a lot of possibilities.