WWE Roster Cuts, Should Be Released, and "Future Endeavored" Discussion

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Well, does Goldust have one of those "sporadic appearances, paid on a per-show rate" kind of contracts? Cause if that's the case, he's ok. But I definitely agree about Boogeyman. His character doesn't really have any appeal outside of maybe selling a few action figures for the company. If I was 7 again, I'd want a Boogeyman action figure, but I'd make him lose every match haha.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

WWE has officially announced that D'Lo Brown and Bam Neely had been released from the company.

D'Lo Brown was brought back in June and but was noly used. Despite the fact he is a former Intercontinental and European champion, creative had nothing to do with him after his return.

Bingo. Two down from my list. Though they could've been used in tag team situations, they really aren't going to be missed. They should try to go to TNA though, just for a job. I bet D'Lo is pissed that he didn't take them up on that offer a few months ago, eh? Haha.

 

[klunderbunker]

These two newest ones don't shock me at all. D'lo was an older guy in the incredibly crowded midcard so I can totally understand him being cut. It wasn't that he was bad in the ring because I always enjoyed his style and music, but there were just too many young guys that could use the push. He'd be a good addition to lots of companies that could use a level headed veteran that could teach a lot of young guys a lot about the business.

Neeley, I really couldn't care less. He did less than Manu somehow and still had a job. He was the bodyguard for Chavo who hangs out with Big Show. What's the point in that? He did one significant thing when he ran in and beat down Kane like 8 months ago. Since then he's just been there for photo ops. No real shock here at all.

 

[Mr. TM]

I actually think they had some potential with Bam Neeley. But is there not already multiple characters that are similar to him? Ezekiel is the same, a big guy who protects a little guy? Tony Atlas is also the same sort of character. In a way, but not totally is The Great Khali. The bodyguard can be a great character, unfortunately there are too many of them. They should have set Bam free and had a beginning feud with the Big Show to get him over.

 

[Harthan]

I'm glad WWE is making these cuts. It's a new year, and it's time to kill the dead weight. So far we have Bam Neeley, D'Lo Brown, and Val Venis gone, and there's really no reason to miss them.

Bam was dead weight for Chavo, and the best they seemed to have for him was teasing us with a possible Bam/Chavo feud. But with the end of La Familia's extended family, i.e., Hawkins, Ryder, and Neeley, there wasn't a thing for him to do. Ezekiel has a better look and a better partner than Neeley, and you only need one bodyguard, really. Neeley wasn't going anywhere, and like the rest of these guys, was taking up money.

D'Lo is the same story. He never got off to the right start in his new run, and there's really nowhere to book him. The best they could have done was maybe set him up in a tag team, but I can't see a good partner for him off the top of my head. Was alright in his last run, but his second run hasn't been worth it, and he just had nothing to do in the midcard.

Val Venis hasn't been on TV for god only knows how long, and has been wasting space and money. He was an alright midcarder in his time, but since becoming a jobber and getting injured or whatever has kept him out for this year, there's no reason to keep him on. I hear he has a radio show which should keep him busy, I guess, for the time being.

So these 3 guys, I have no problems with. Cutting the fat out is the best decision for WWE. What I do question, though, is cutting out two of their better referees - to a lesser extent, Mike Posey, and to a greater extent, Jim Korderas. Both are great refs, but especially Korderas, who has been with the company for so long and has so much experience, which not only makes him a good ref, but an asset for teaching the new guys. I don't see why they didn't just cut a few of the newer guys instead of these veterans.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Jimmy Korderas and Val Venis were cut.

Called Val, didn't call Korderas. For someone that was there since 1987 apparently, that's a bit of a shock. Idk the guy's name, but they should release that one ref that has the hairstyle that looks like he's got a motorcycle helmet on his head. You know, that guy with the dark hair? He looks so stupid lol.

Anyway, TM made remember about Tony Atlas. He SEVERELY needs to be cut. Wtf does he do? He doesn't act as a mouthpiece for Henry anymore as Henry is better than him at it, and he isn't an enforcer as Henry is the freaking world's strongest man. Tony Atlas doesn't wrestle, he doesn't talk, and he doesn't manage. There is absolutely no use in having him.

 

[My$terio_Fan]

So the WWE went on a firing spree today, and I think they made some great choices. Unlike other times when they released young guys who had potential(London, Cade, Domino, ect)they got rid of two veterns that the fans could care less about and a new comer who's serious lack of fan reaction and charisma made Chris "Braden Walker" Harris look good compare to him.

DLo Brown still could go in the ring, but when he returned the fans could have cared less. I think the WWE just thought that his name "value" would have made him instantly over with the fans and when it didn't they didn't see the point of having him. Why spend time trying to build up a "has been" when you can spend the time crafting newer, younger superstars who could be big(Kofi, Bourne, Ziggler?, ect).

As for Venis, I can't say I was surprised either. Venis was a great jobber who could make his newer opponents look good, but even the best jobbers have a limited shelf date. There are other jobbers who can make their opponents look good(Charlie Haas)and Venis wasn't getting any fan support plus add in the fact he was injured the WWE made the right decison.

I doubt Venis will go to TNA since he is pretty old, and will probably just retire. DLo could go back but I don't think he will(not so soon anyways). Bam, I sure hope doesn't go to TNA because that man needs alot more training, some acting classes, and a personality/charisma before he should be on TV again. As for the refs they all look the same to me so I'm neither surprised or saddened.

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

Kevin Thorn has apparently also been released. Now there's a guy that should go to TNA - without the vampire gimmick. He's young enough and talented enough to hang with the TNA roster. Despite how "Kevin Fertig" sounds bad, just give him a different surname and let him wrestle as a heel and you've got a decent midcarder. The vampire gimmick was too stupid, though. I'm surprised they kept him after all this time of not using him.

 

[Tim]

Val Venis and D'Lo Brown were hardly being used by the WWE anyway, so no surprise here. I'm amazed they both lasted as long as they did. Val we hadn't seen on TV in forevever, and D'Lo's return didn't exactly work out. So these two were obvious choices.

Kevin Thorn I feel wasn't all that bad, and I agree with NoFate; send him to TNA. He'd fit in perfectly there. But i'm amazed he even made it back on ECW after god knows how long in the developmentals. But really, there were better people the WWE had to work with than Kevin Thorn, and I think they made the right decision in releasing him.

Gavin Spears. Who?

 

[AnthonyMango/NoFate007]

PWInsider.com is reporting that both Sgt. Slaughter and Ron Simmons, aka Farooq, have been released by WWE. More details on these two firings as they become available.

So, wait....they fire these two guys, but they keep Tony Atlas? Wasn't Slaughter used backstage for a few things, while Atlas isn't being used for anything other than adding to the number of people that walk down the entrance ramp?

But, anyway, about these two: meh. Ron Simmons comes on once every 6 months and says Damn. Big deal. Slaughter, not 100% sure what his role was, so I can't really be too certain what they're missing out on here.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Aw, man, they fired Ron Simmons? True, he wasn't doing anything, but I liked his catchphrase.
Ah well.

In complete honesty.. I'm happy they've put him out of his misery. The man is a legend in some form. His history speaks for itself, and to ultimately lessen his entire career to.. "Damn", well.. let's put it this way.. my guess is when that catchphrase/storyline was thought up.. it was likely Ron's first thought, on how they were using him.. based on who he is, overall.

At least now he can go to T.N.A. and possibly be meaningful in multi-man Tag matches again.

Does anyone know why they fired Colin Delaney?

I don't know for a fact, but I'd be willing to bet hard money on it being because he flat-out sucked ass. He couldn't get over as a heel, a face, or a pathetic loser who constantly got the shit beat outta him. People didn't feel for him the way they would for Spike Dudley, which is where I believe they wanted to go with him.

So he likely got cut because he didn't have size going for him, and when noone cared about him.. that was pretty much his final punch on the express way to the unemployment line.

 

[Derf]

I just found out they released Bob Holly on wwe.com, don't know if that made WZ headlines yet. Just adding it.

But with the way things are going, and the new stragedy of releasing wrestlers all the time to keep everyone on their toes, I think it could work. There havn't been many, if any, reports of bad behavior lately by anyone, and with so many people getting laid off all the time now, even the Main Eventers might no feel so safe anymore.

If they'd let Ron Simmons go, they'll fire anyone lol.

 

[klunderbunker]

Holly makes sense. He hasn't been on tv in what, 7 months? Guys like that are the ones that need to go. He was an ass kisser to keep his spot and offered nothing to the company. How many people bought tickets to shows thinking that they'll be lucky enough to get to see a Bob Holly match that night, or buy a Bob Holly shirt? Next to never, that's when. He was a bad trainer that didn't train well as he beat people up instead of properly educating them. His claim to fame lately is winning a worthless tag title. Glad he's gone.

 

[Shocky]

World Wrestling Entertainment has come to terms on the release of Raw Superstar Bob "Hardcore" Holly as of today, January 16. WWE wishes Bob the best in all future endeavors.

It's official, halleulujah. Seriously, does anyone remember the good Sparky Plugg moment, going once, going twice, null and void. Hardcore Holly is the biggest waste of space the WWE might have seriously ever invested in, well this side of John Bradshaw Layfield. Here is a guy that has been with the company for damn near 20 years, and you'd be lucky to make a positive DVD about the guy that lasted more then 20 minutes.

Now you can make an entire legacy and box set of Bob Holly sucking up the airwaves. From his awe inspiring third elbow being made when Kurt Angle went stiff on him and made his arm bend in a new way. Or how about botching a Power Bomb which resulted in a broken neck from a 285 pound rookie. Or better yet, how about beating up some kid training to be int eh company on Tough Enough as your ultimate triumph in the WWE.

Hardcore Holly sucked, Bob Holly sucked, Sparky Plugg sucked, everything about the man has always sucked. Hardcore Holly contributed a big fat whopping zero to the WWE, and it's a shame that the WWE wasted this much time before they decided to get rid of this worthless waste of space. So Long Sparky Plugg, don't let the door hit you on the ass on your way out the door.

 

[Khalifa]

YEah Holly was just asking to be released. With notbeing on TV since he lost the tag team championships to Rhodes and Debiase. I really felt after 2004 he should of been released. If you ask me he was jsut a waste of space. Anyways the release of Slaughter and Simmons was obvious as well. Slaughter just a useless jobber and Ron simmons a "comedian". Oh well lets hope they release Hackshaw next.

 

[TheOneBigWill]

Whelp, I guess I'll be taking major heat for this.. but it sucks that Hardcore Holly is gone. Shocky pretty much summed up his career in one word. "Sucks". But to me, I felt they had one more attempt at a decent feud.

Cody Rhodes.

I honestly and truly wanted Hardcore Holly to return and feud with Cody Rhodes. It only seemed right to have Holly return, seeking revenge on the youngster who turned on the vet. Obviously I wouldn't expect a Rhodes/Holly feud to top feud's of the year or even month.. but it still would've had purpose for Holly, and gave Rhodes a nice little victory.

If you truly think about it, who has Cody Rhodes beaten? In a feud, who has he beaten? Noone. Because he hasn't had a single feud yet. Holly could've been his first, but alas.. no longer.

Well, I guess T.N.A. could/would likely pick him up. Can't say that'd be enjoyable, but who knows.

 

[Green Hero]

It sad to see great wrestler like hardcore Holly be let go and still have to see People like Undertaker and MVP I mean This two are the most boring selfish people in the WWE today, Does anyone every pay to see these guys NO why because their Bully.

Its sad too see Hardcore Holly go I mean this man save the world tag team title from becoming worthless like the WWE title back in the late 90s when they were changing hands every Raw smackdown and PPV.

Unlike bret hart and Undertaker Hardcore Holly didn't mind putting talent over even if they suck. Hardcore Holly will be remember for more then his cool fisher and music but for being a Hero and standing up to the bully of MVP and Undertaker

 

[My$terio_Fan]

Ummm Green Hero? Holly mark much? While I didn't hate the guy as much as most did, he didn't do anything special.

You say he was willing to "put over" all types of wrestlers good and bad. The thing is, he sucked so of course he would be willing to job, since he wouldn't have a job. WWE did his old, bland, boring ass a favor by letting him stay with the company for so long, even though he had almost 0 potential, had a lack luster 15 years, and was a reported ass and drug abuser. And while like Will, I would have liked to see him return and feud with Cody(with rhodes destroying)but I don't think anybody is gonna cry over Holly's departure(most probably didn't even release he was a part of the roster.

 

[Harthan]

It sad to see great wrestler like hardcore Hollyr

So which Bob Holly have you been watching the last 15 years?

be let go and still have to see People like Undertaker

Oh, God damn that Undertaker and his consistent work ethic. Bastard.

and MVP I mean This two are the most boring selfish people in the WWE today,

That MVP. What kind of selfish bastard is he to request a five month losing streak, and then DARE to go over the Big Show, by interference?

Does anyone every pay to see these guys

Man, it sure is a good thing WWE didn't decide to have that Undertaker be at 16 WrestleManias.

NO why because their Bully.

Who's their bully?

Its sad too see Hardcore Holly go I mean this man save the world tag team title from becoming worthless like the WWE title back in the late 90s when they were changing hands every Raw smackdown and PPV.

Hardcore Holly's two title reigns in the 90s lasted 16 days, combined.

Unlike bret hart and Undertaker Hardcore Holly didn't mind putting talent over even if they suck.

Hardcore Holly will be remember for more then his cool fisher and music

His finisher is a glorified powerbomb, and I couldn't even hum the opening bars of his theme song.

but for being a Hero and standing up to the bully of MVP and Undertaker

Standing up to a jobber and WWE's best worker.

Hardcore Holly, I salute you.

 

[Tim]

Hardcore Holly, great choice. He hasn't been on TV in ages, I can't remember the last time he had a decent feud. He wasn't exactly the greatest in the ring or on the mic, and not the most charismatic guy either. He was pretty bland, and the WWE really didn't have a reason to keep him around. They have been surviving pretty well without him for the past 7 or so months, and most people would've forgotten about him, and then most of the people that remembered him wouldn't care about him getting released anyway.

 

[takerfan95]

I'm Kinda upset that they let D-lo go. I knew they weren't Gonna do anything big with him but he whudda made a damn good IC champion

 

[Jane]

OK, future releases.

Paul Burchill-He seemed promising for a bit, but now he just does nothing. So I am thinking the pirate wannabe is gone in the next little while.

Charlie Haas-The gimmick was good for a bit, but seeing as he wasn't in the rumble, I think he's gone. They just have too many comedy characters, and their are only so many names that rhyme with Haas.

Jimmy Wang-Yang-Unless he gets a big gimmick change, Wang-Yang is gone. He was doing good for a bit with Moore, but then he was fired and Jimmy got suspended. Everything just went down hill and they have nothing to do with him, so he's going to go.

 

[thenewDX3]

Elijah was a great wrestler! He had lots of talent. WWE treated him wrong. I would love to see him in ROH. I think Jamie Noble might be released next.

 

[Phoenix]

Jamie Noble won't be released, purely because he's an agent as well as a wrestler. Otherwise we would have seen him been released a hell of a lot sooner!

 

[Fratelli]

scotty goldman was just released? wwe seemed as they wer giving him some kind of jobber comedy push of sorts with his whats cracking online show and everything, yet kizarny, ryan braddock and kung fu naki among other still sit on the sidlines and do virtually nothing :S there must be more to this story other than having nothing for him to do i suspect