WWE No Way Out: General Discussion

[Adam Rush]

1. Cody Rhodes will lose against Christian and go on to be Sheamus' next opponent after this ppv.

Selling this, Alberto Del Rio will be back, so this won't happen.

[/B]2. John Cena vs. Big Show should end in a draw.[/B]

Sell, there needs to be a winner, and Big Johnny should be gone, he's boring.

[/B]3. There is no need for a comedy match between Santino and Ricardo. Instead Santino should have built a short term feud with a superstar and defend the US title at No Way Out.[/B]

Buy, for obvious reasons. This match is crap. You would think the U.S. title would be defended...but no! I think that it's time for Santino to lose the belt and give it to someone like Cody Rhodes or Jack Swagger. Maybe Damien Sandow.

[/B]4. CM Punk shouldn't lose the WWE title so he can go on with a year long WWE title run.[/B]

Sell, Kane deserves one last run as WWE champ. This match should be epic though.

[/B]5. Dolph Ziggler will lose against Sheamus and fall back in to the mix.[/B]

Sell, I hope! I like Ziggler, and while he will lose Sunday, he will not fall into the mix. I think he goes on to win Money in the Bank for RAW. (On a side note, I think either Barrett or Rhodes wins Smackdown's).

[/B]6. We will see the start of the real build up for Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam.[/B]

Buy, Triple H is gonna be there already, and it only makes sense for Lesnar to show up too.

[/B]7. Cena vs. Show should obviously close the show because it's the main storyline in the WWE today.[/B]

Sell, none of this is true. I think the main storyline IS the WWE Championship. I think that it should be main eventing, not Cena vs Show. I understand how someone could argue for this though.

 

[#1HEEL]

1. Cody Rhodes will lose against Christian and go on to be Sheamus' next opponent after this ppv.

SELL: Rhodes isn't ready, particularly after recent loses. Barrett/ Orton/ Del Rio or even Ziggler once more will be the contenders.

2. John Cena vs. Big Show should end in a draw.

BUY: but it won't happen.

3. There is no need for a comedy match between Santino and Ricardo. Instead Santino should have built a short term feud with a superstar and defend the US title at No Way Out.

BUY: This is a bullshit comedy match. There's a mountain of talent who could be on the card. Sin Cara for one is a PPV sell for the kids and isn't on the card.

4. CM Punk shouldn't lose the WWE title so he can go on with a year long WWE title run.

SELL: Punk doesn't need a year long reign being his 5th world title reign. He's held that belt a long time, Bryan needs the WWE championship to become a solidified main event player on the back of his recent build/ reactions post mania.

5. Dolph Ziggler will lose against Sheamus and fall back in to the mix.

SELL: WWE obviously had plans to push Ziggler again, given his split in the making from Swagger and/or Vickie. Therefore one rushed PPV match for the WHC won't see him fall too far.

6. We will see the start of the real build up for Triple H vs. Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam.

SELL: We will see the storyline pick up, but will not see Lesnar at the PPV, maybe a Heyman appearance. Lesnar will become a regular post RR.

7. Cena vs. Show should obviously close the show because it's the main storyline in the WWE today.

SELL: Whilst we know Cena will always be in the main event, title or not, the WWE title should always be the showcase.

 

[Indeed]

Worst PPV of the year thus far. The WWE title match wasn't enough to save this PPV like OTL, because it was not even half as good as the OTL match and the ending was unbelievably disappointing.

TNA currently demolishing WWE in product quality.

 

[wiz828]

Worst PPV of the year thus far. The WWE title match wasn't enough to save this PPV like OTL, because it was not even half as good as the OTL match and the ending was unbelievably disappointing.

TNA currently demolishing WWE in product quality.

Agree completely. Most matches were mediocre at best. The only good match of the whole show was the WWE title match, but as you said, the ending was terrible. Whoever booked that ending should be shot.

I'd say Seamus - Ziggler, Rhodes - Christian and the tag team FF matches were all really no different than any average Raw match, except for 1 spot in the tag team match (nice spot though).

All the other stuff was just crap.

 

[Workrate]

I disagree.

I thought it was actually a fairly good pay-per-view -- at least by today's standards. The Sheamus/Ziggler match was utterly fantastic. I expect Ziggler to carry matches anymore, but I think Sheamus showed something in this one as well.

The Punk/Bryan/Kane match was good as well, though the finish did leave a bit to be desired. I think they left things open-ended though, which I like. And the door is still wide open to continue the Punk/Bryan feud, while questions about AJ's loyalties still linger. I liked it.

I think Christian/Cody and the tag match were both well-done as well. The crowd was dead for the tag match, obviously, but that's fine, as they haven't paid the division any attention in months. I liked the swerve at the end with AW aligning with the Primetime Players -- that's a much better fit than Epico/Primo. Sure, it's a mid-card storyline, but that's exactly what's lacking these days. And I'm not sure how you can say these matches weren't different than Raw -- when was the last time we even had a tag match on Raw, or any match that went beyond five minutes, for that matter? I think complaining that there was only one "spot" is short-sighted and inherently pessimistic.

The tuxedo match and Sin Cara/Hunico bits were obviously a big waste of everyone's time, but I used them to go to the bathroom and take out the dog. So, thanks for giving me a break, I guess. I'm indifferent towards the women's match (I don't enjoy women's wrestling in general, so it wouldn't have mattered if it were Beth/Kharma in a 20-minute epic) and I actually dig on Ryback, though I'm a bit burnt out of the beat-up-two-guys-at-once shtick.

Even the main event wasn't that bad, at least until the last few minutes. I didn't enjoy all the mid-carders running down and getting immediately flattened, and I thought Big Show and Cena were both booked like a couple of idiots (when Cena hit the AA, why did he go for the pin knowing the referee was down when he could have just crawled out of the cage? Why did Big Show lay at the door of the cage for what seemed like eternity as Cena climbed out?). I realize it's all scripted and there are issues with in-ring timing, but the end just came off sloppy. Also, I felt like Big Show needed the win to further his new character. The commentators even mentioned during the match that it was "the first match of his new career," so giving him a loss seems silly. Now what? He's going to go feud with Brodus Clay? And at what point can Cena go after belts again? I mean, he's beaten Brock Lesnar and Big Show. There are only so many manufactured monsters he can defeat before he logically sets his sights on Sheamus or Punk.

Anyway, I think it was a three star show out of five. It had flaws, but all the knee-jerk "everything they did sucks" and "they don't know how to book" stuff is exhausting. It's negativity for the sake of negativity, mostly, and I don't really get it in this case. Not a perfect show, but not a bad one either.

 

[JaylisJayP]

I have been a very open critic of WWE storylines and programming over the last year, and have watched the last 4 or 5 PPVs with great disappointment mostly (they mostly come at night...mostly.)

That being said, I can't rag on this PPV, it was actually somewhat decent.

What I liked:

- Furthering a Tag Team division storyline??? At a PPV? I didn't think this was possible anymore. Hopefully they keep this up, it actually brings something new to the show. Would rather see it on Raw than Smackdown, though.

- Punk/Bryan/Kane/AJ ending: Just brilliant. Someone on another board I frequent said whomever is writing this story should write every WWE story these days and I have to completely agree. And AJ/Kane/Punk playing off each other is priceless. I'm actually really enjoying this storyline in spite of SuperPunk turning into the next Cena.

- Big Show actually doing a few things in his match. Yeah, he needed to keep his balance by holding onto the cage, but the man actually left his feet a few times on "offense." The match itself was well-paced and Cena sells stuff so well. Clay coming out was a decent surprise, and Vince sent fans home happy with the famous line.

What I disliked:

- HHH's segment: Kinda pointless imo. And if they're really concerned with TV ratings, this could've easily have been saved for Raw tonight. Without even having Heyman come out or something, I don't quite get the point. I can't imagine anyone bought NWO for the HHH segment so it seemed kinda stupid.

- Layla retains? Everyone talks about how they want the Divas to be pushed back into relevance, but if they're not going to start an actual quality storyline and beef up these personalities, it's a big disappointment. Give Beth the title already, let HER go back to crushing everyone...then when Kharma is ready you've got an instant winner, possibly the best female storyline in WWE in a long time if not ever.

- Sheamus/Ziggler. I've seen Ziggler wrestle before, I knew he wasn't going to win, it just felt like an unbelievable waste of time. I really don't care about either of these wrestlers right now.

I'd give the PPV a B actually. It held my interest more or less the whole way through and of course got me excited to see who will be running Raw tonight.

 

[The Ghost of Benoit]

Im sorry I just dont see how some people here can say that this was a decent PPV, let alone a good one.

As I said in the LD thread, Thank God I didnt waste $45.00 on this.

No Way Out would have made a very good 3 hour Raw. As for a PPV it was just bad.

 

[WWEIsLife2]

I enjoyed No Way Out overall and had some Good Matches/Storytelling all night.

CM Punk/Kane/Daniel Bryan=Match of the Night and AJ getting involved made it even more interesting.

Cena/Big Show was fine and did its job. I also liked the guys who had been knocked out coming down including Brodus Clay holding off Show with a Chair.

Sheamus/Dolph Ziggler I liked alot and was a good opener. Sheamus retaining was cool and I think Ziggler will get his shot eventually. Im glad they are not pulling the trigger just yet like they did with Swagger right away.

Layla/Beth for a Divas Match this was decent and to me they seem to have good chemistry together.

4-Way Tag was nice to see WWE trying to rebuild the Tag Division.

Christian/Cody Rhodes was another good Match between the two for the IC Title.

HHH's Promo was fine and to the point saying he wanted to fight Brock Lesnar at Summerslam.

Also nice Sin Cara/Hunico and Ryback get on PPV again.

 

[The Great King]

Not a bad PPV overall. The World title match was good, the triple threat and the Tag Team match was great.