WWE Money in the Bank 2011 - General Discussion

[The Dragon Saga]

The name of this thread makes me sick!

There would be no reason for the WWE to waste what is one of the biggest storyline creating angles, in the Money In The Back briefcase on someone like Mark Henry. Give it so Bryan, give it to Rhodes, hell give it to fucking Barrett or Gabriel or something but do not under any estimation even contemplate handing it to Mark Henry. Henry gets a small push every once in a while. And with SD! not having all that many faces, he's being pushed.

 

[The HEEL JuiceLee]

Hey Dragon Saga i agree with you.Personaly i wantCody Rhodes to win MiTB.I was just struck by the amount of attention givin to Henry right before MiTB.I dont remember Kane dominating SmackDown last year before he won the MiTB whitch had some young guy's who i would of rather seen win it.But they gave the vet Kane a good 6 month push that made him a main event player in the WWE.With Henry coming to the end and there being 2 briefcases im just saying i wouldnt put it past creative to give Henry a 6month monster push on his way out the company he has been giving his all since the mid 90's.

 

[Spidey Revivey]

Now I don't think Mark Henry will enter this year's MITB Match, nor would I want him to walk out with the briefcase, but having a big guy hold that for a while would actually be different, you know? The only other big guy that did was Kane, and that wasn't even for a night. So even though most of us don't want to see Henry with the case, it can happen and it wouldn't really be that bad of an idea. Would be quite different.

But as I see it, the match should be meant for midcarders to get over. I don't think they should discontinue this idea.

 

[The 1-2-3 Killam]

Does Mark Henry have a chance to win Money in the Bank? Absolutely...

Mark Henry has had these mini pushes where he teases breaking into the main event and running for the title, and then suddenly finds himself down the card again for another few years. He's been doing this his entire career! I think he's shown flashes of greatness, and I would buy him as a legit contender to the championship with a few solid wins. At the very least the WWE needs to show that they have faith in him.

I hope he doesn't win Money in the Bank. If he stays on top of his game he's all but guaranteed a run at the title in the next few months. Let him do it the old fashioned way and give the surprise victory to a guy who still needs to cement himself in the main event. Somebody who could be a champion, but needs the MITB to propel himself to that level, like the Miz did last year. Somebody like Alex Riley or Kofi Kingston.

 

[WWWYKI777]

I don't think someone of Mark Henry's size & power needs a tool like MITB to capture a world title , but I wouldn't put it past them seeing as they were stupid enough to have Kane win MITB as if he needed it............

I personally would love it if Wade Barrett wins the smackdown MITB , but the other former Corre guys winning would be cool too , Mark Henry winning it despite it being stupid would be kinda cool too.... long as we get a new 1st timer world champ out of the deal

 

[WWWYKI777]

I want to see Punk win and be cashed in on by Wade Barrett (He could later say its payback for stealing his group)

I also want to see Christian win the world title then get cashed in on by somebody , just to further fuel his new heel character which is fueled by being jipped out of the world title constantly

 

[Th3Vip3R2012]

RAW Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Alberto Del Rio, Rey Mysterio, R-Truth, John Morrison, Kofi Kingston, Dolph Ziggler, Evan Bourne & Jack Swagger

If Morrison isn't ready to compete, I'd put in McIntyre in the MITB, and as far as who I think will win, I'd go with Del Rio or Morrison (if he's in), because they are the only two that makes sense to win and deserve to win...if Del Rio wins, he will cash in at SummerSlam against Cena to get rid of one briefcase quickly, but if Morrison wins, he will keep it for a while and feud with R-Truth in the meantime at SummerSlam and no one else on that list deserves to win.

SmackDown Money in the Bank Ladder Match:
Sheamus, Daniel Bryan, Cody Rhodes, Sin Cara, Kane, Ted DiBiase, Wade Barrett & Ezekiel Jackson

I think those are the obvious choices to be in it and the only person who I think will win and that makes sense is Cody Rhodes...Sheamus doesn't need MITB cause he's already a main eventer and getting title shots, Kane sure as hell doesn't need it again, and the babyfaces in this match stand no chance, and the only other person that could win is Wade Barrett.

Other Matches:

CM Punk vs. John Cena for the WWE Championship
Randy Orton vs. Christian for the World Heavyweight Championship
The Miz vs. Alex Riley (If they are not in MITB)
Big Show vs. Mark Henry
Kelly Kelly vs. Random Diva for the Divas Championship

overall, this could be a pretty good PPV.

 

[vthokie8]

1.Does any1 think Henry has a chance @ MiTB to walk away with the briefcase
I hope not, but I wouldn't be suprised. WWE has did stranger things. The Smack Down one is a little more trickier than Raw for me to predict I have it narrowed down to Wade Barrett, Cody Rhodes and Sin Cara though. It would help Barrett get over this Corre angle, It would elevate Rhodes to that main event status, and it seems there is a lot of effort being put into Sin Cara so he is my wildcard.

2.Where do you see this push going?
I could see him getting a World title shot at Orton on one of the lesser PPVs maybe like a Night of Champions or Vengeance. I could also see him maybe having a short IC title run as well.

 

[Y 2 Jake]

There is something very wrong with WWE if they decide to give Henry the MITB briefcase. That gimmick shouldn't be used to elevate guys of his age. The only time Henry could possibly have become a world champion was from 2005-2007. He was just unlucky that there were several other guys more worthy than him at the time.

Christian will likely win it, after losing to Orton earlier in the night. Or possibly Barrett. Henry will feature in the match and play his role very well, but ultimately he'll leave empty handed.

 

[FSWWE]

This wins the award for most stupid thread of the week!! (i'm not usual a jerk, but the big boys are so, if I want to be a Big Boy I need to be it too)
What is the point to give the "magical" briefcase to Mark Henry, that already looks capable of winning it by himself?

I can see WWE giving him a title run, he deserves for being that loyal, and since SD! is with lack of main-eventers, then he fills the role.
However there are new and younger talents like Wade Barrett and Cody Rhodes that are looking for this opportunity to be a long-time main eventers...
We can also throw Sheamus under the guys who deserves and needs the briefcase more than Henry.

 

[Wade's Public Transit Bomb]

I do think Wade Barrett wins the SD. He has been as interesting as a box of Cheerios because all he has done is put over other people since the move to SD. But I think he has the charisma and look to be one of those guys that can reverse people's opinions of his booking very quickly once he does do something of meaning. I.E., The Corre was booked like shit, but that one ass kicking of Show and Kane made everyone take notice of them again.. Only to be booked like shit, again.

That and he mentioned about moving on from the IC title. Optimistically, I hope someone hasn't forgotten Wade's run last year.. and more importantly drawing power last year. For a guy who didn't exist to the WWE Universe until June, the numbers were pretty damn good.


As far as the Raw one, Del Rio is the only guy that comes to mind. disappointed I don't think Del Rio has the star power of someone who can change opinions quickly (like I mentioned with Wade). I don't think his shtick has any kind of longevity nor is he creative enough to make it seem like a different week for him. I.E. You've seen one Del Rio promo, you could probably miss the next one and still know everything you need to know. However, he is someone they are hell bent on making a big deal.

 

[Big Nick Dudley]

I think Mark Henry winning Money in the Bank is a very real possibility.

Of course there are several other (better, more deserving) wrestlers who could take this thing home, but Mark Henry is climbing the ladder (no pun intended). Vince and company obviously have some sort of plan in the works for Miz-Ark. What that is, exactly, I'm not sure. However, if he wins MITB, expect him to cash in that very night.

 

[Dagger Dias]

Mark Henry winning Money In the Bank? Of all the people to make a "Should (insert wrestler name here) win MITB" thread, you made one for MARK HENRY? There is absolutely no chance of him ever winning the blue briefcase because it is meant to push someone up to the top and he's too busy being the world's strongest jobber. That's all he will ever be. The current push will not lead to anything except filler feuds to make him more like his heel self from back in ECW or before that, and possibly a match against Orton where Henry gets squashed in seconds. He's not winning the blue briefcase and anyone who thinks he even has a chance needs to take some time to think about that, eventually they will realize just how wrong they are.

 

[Johnny Scumm]

Really?

I mean, Mark Henry will probably get one shot at the World Heavyweight Championship soon and for reason, I hope it's gonna be on Smackdown and that he loses. I just couldn't and wouldn't want to see him win MiTB. Having him walk around with the Briefcase, would be very unexciting and bland. If he does win it, like most MiTB winners, they'd probably give him the Title, which is even more of a terrible decision, he'd hold it for a month or two, then thank god, he'd drop it. But still, that doesn't mean he should win Money In The Bank, let alone hold a Title, or even be in the Match to be honest. There are more deserved winners, so let them take it.

 

[JGlass]

I doubt Mark Henry will win the briefcase, though the WWE is doing a good job of making him seem like a plausible candidate as he has been more interesting and more dominant than we've seen in a long long time.

That said, it's just a red herring. While Henry is still kicking ass as of late, he's only doing it to Big Show and Kane, guys that aren't anywhere near the championship picture. Furthermore, he's not the type of guy that should win the title on a sneaky cash in, which seems to be SOP for MitB winners. Henry's character is supposed to be able to squash the champ like a fly, not pick off the champ at his weakest.

I'm still guessing Cody Rhodes wins the championship. He's been fantastic for months, and absolutely amazing since he began his Deranged gimmick. He also has the history with Orton and the wrestling ability to put on some great matches with Randy Orton.

 

[Jeff]

I think Mark Henry winning Money in the Bank is a very real possibility.

Of course there are several other (better, more deserving) wrestlers who could take this thing home, but Mark Henry is climbing the ladder (no pun intended). Vince and company obviously have some sort of plan in the works for Miz-Ark. What that is, exactly, I'm not sure. However, if he wins MITB, expect him to cash in that very night.

Actually I don't think there are many other people more deserving to win the title. Mark Henry has been so loyal to that company for so long. He deserves to win MITB and he deserves to win the WHC...however do I want to see that happen or do I think it will happen...no. He just isn't a main event guy. There are better people who should win it for the future of the company. Henry winning it would be a bad business decision.

 

[TheTruNoLimit]

Henry's gotten a push since coming to Smackdown! and he was even a little diversion to Randy Orton and Christian in the title picture a few weeks (as was Sheamus) but he bowed out of the title picture even before Sheamus did and now he's super dominant attacking the likes of Big Show and Kane.

Kane won Money in the Bank last year because for about 6-7 weeks before Money in the Bank they pulled the angle with Undertaker and Kane got such good responses from the crowd and cut such good promos that Vince decided to run with it. But, whereas Kane had what was the biggest storyline on Smackdown!, Mark Henry is just "showing his dominance" by attacking other big men.

That being said, Mark Henry looks legit lately. But we've seen it before. I'm betting he won't be in the MITB match in a few weeks. Big Show will be looking for revenge for the now two attacks on him by Mark Henry. It's the same way I don't see Big Show being involved in Raw's MITB. What will happen? Mark Henry maybe screws the Big Show out of qualifying during the Raw roulette and Big Show returns the favor on Smackdown! most logically costing Mark Henry a qualifier against Kane.

Big Show and Henry face each other at the PPV one on one. Not surprised at all if Mark Henry gets a victory over a "beat up" Big Show. But the feud will continue, likely cultivating at Summerslam where it's Show/Henry for Big Show's revenge or maybe a Show/Kane vs. Henry and a partner.

 

[Dagger Dias]

The best scenario in my opinion would be for Punk to win but then get cashed in on by the winner of Raw's MITB match. He has bragged multiple times recently about how he won MITB at two Wrestlemania's. This could be leading up to him being cashed in on. This means a face is probably winning the red briefcase, and there could be no one better for this opportunity than John Morrison because he would get his first world title in an unpredictable moment that was long awaited. This is the scenario that I would WANT to happen. It's not what I think will happen though.

As for the other scenarios.... Punk winning but not leaving makes no sense. It would be a way for him to get some heel heat, but not much more. There are better ways of getting that other than lying about leaving after the match. Punk winning then vacating the title doesn't make much more sense. If he's leaving, then he's likely NOT winning unless they need a heel to get cashed in on by a face MITB winner. The dumbest scenario of all is Punk leaving only to introduce a new title. That is nothing but another excuse for people to whine about the championship's design for the billionth time. It is never going to happen.

Cena winning then Punk just leaves is likely, but then it depends on two things. Whether Punk is truly leaving or not, and whether it is a face or a heel who wins MITB. If a face wins then cashing in on Punk would be a great way to get the cash-in done, as Punk can get heel heat for winning and trying to take the belt with him, Cena attacks to get revenge then leaves and out comes the face MITB winner. New champion, great moment. If a heel wins then Punk could lose to Cena and have Nexus all come out to attack him in revenge only for the heel to come cash in afterwards or on Raw. So, there are really too many factors to consider and we won't know for sure until the winner of the red briefcase is announced and Punk's future is revealed.

 

[Daniel]

The PPV is in Chicago. Punk is from Chicago. Chicago has quite a smarky crowd. Punk is loved by all smarks. I like Cena. I like Punk more. What do these factors tell you? Well, they should tell you that not only do I want Punk to win, I think he should win. Let's look at the scenarios.

Punk wins, MITB contract is cashed in.
This scenario shows a remarkable lack of creativity. It happened last year adn it was inevitable considering the angle that was being run on SmackDown. To do it two years in a row is just lazy.

Punk wins, doesn't leave WWE.
This is the one I want. I love Punk and I don't want him to go. I'm well aware that's very selfish of me, but it's true. I wish he could stay. However, I think this leaving shit is real. He's seems burnt out and wanting to take a bit of time off. However, his contract finishes in September, so there's a chance he wins and sets up a SummerSlam clash with Cena. Which I would love.

Punk wins, leaves with the title and a new title is created.
I don't think that WWE will want to change the WWE Championship anytime soon. I'm pretty sure it sells well, so there's no reason to get rid of it. This scenario seems far too easy. This is what Punk says is going to happen. So do you really think it is what will happen? I don't.

Punk wins, turns face and vacates the WWE Championship.
No. This will not happen and should not happen. Punk is possibly the most over heel in WWE. He's a feel through and through. For me, when someone is so great and well ingrained in that role, I don't like the idea of turning them. When a heel leaves a company, they should be dragged kicking and screaming while the fans sing "na na na na, na na na na, hey, hey, hey goodbye".

Cena wins, nothing happens.
I've made it clear that I don't think Cena should win because of the setting this match is taking place in. I also don't want him to win because of the next PPV, SummerSlam. With a big PPV like Summerslam, I want a nice well-built feud for the WWE Championship. Not a new feud which is built in less than a month. Punk winning will offer a nice angle going into the second PPV of the year.

So yeah, I want Punk to win and go into a match against Cena at SummerSlam. Although you make think it's a long shot, I think it's more likely than you think.

 

[cmedge]

Mark Henry shouldn't win but I wouldn't mind if he does. Mark Henry has always been loyal to the WWE. He deserves to be World Champ. If Vince McMahon, Vince Russo and David Arquette have been World Champs. (In My Book I don't count them as official champs) Nevertheless It would be a slap to the face of him if he never got to win. He has been loyal to WWE for a while. Even If he had a 5 day or even 3 week run to see him as a monster heel champ wouldn't be that bad. I understand better stars like Razor Ramon, Ted DiBiase, Mr.Perfect and other stars haven't been World Champs but still 2 out of 3 of them lived in The Hulkamania Era where only Hogan, Taker, Macho Man and Warrior held the World Title for the last couple of years. Still though Mark Henry should win the world title. He has been a good loyal member to WWE.

 

[Peep]

A better question is whether or not he'll be in the SmackDown case match at all. Given the lack of talent and the need for six guys in the match, it seems like a real possibility. However, I wouldn't be surprised to see Mark Henry inserted into SmackDown's WHC match at MITB with Orton and Christian. Think about it.

1) He did pin Orton on last Friday's SD!

2) Other than Sin Cara who was in Vegas for the make-up match against Bourne, Henry was the ONLY SD! superstar on this week's Raw and had a huge impact (destroying the Big Show yet again).

3) All of the SD! commercials during Raw were about Mark Henry. Over the past couple of months, they had all been about Christian and him looking to regain the WHC.


I could easily see a scenario where Teddy Long tells Christian in this week's opening promo, "Playa, ya won last week. That means you get a title match at Money In The Bank! Howeva... Because Mark Henry was the won who actually scored the pinfall on Randy Orton, he will ALSO get a title shot! That's right, a triple threat match! Holla holla!" (and then Christian throws another hissy fit in the ring as SD! goes to commercial).

So to answer the OP, I think there is a very real possibility Mark Henry wins SmackDown's case, but it isn't guaranteed he's even in that match. I think you have to consider the possibility of him entering SD!'s main event this month. They've got to do something to liven things up. Right now, we're scheduled to have a fourth straight singles match between Orton and Christian for the WHC. Either add a big stipulation (no holds bared etc.) or add Henry.

 

[The A]

As long as he's been there im sure he never had a problem with his role or his spot on the card. They probably need him now because remember he's a vet and he's been around forever and he's still pretty damn strong and not to mention his presence is dominating...He sounded louder than some people on the mic after he knock show through the cage. So I'm saying he for sure can win and it wouldnt be some stupid, or bad thing IMO. I'd see him cashin it in same or next night maybe he is the first guy to lose maybe not but I'm sure he's a team player or at least it looks that way to me. But He's not a shoe in to win either...

 

[berlinbrawler]

My biggest fear for this PPV is that Christian finally wins the title from Orton and 2 seconds later the SD MitB winner cashes in. His first title reign lasted 2 days, his second one 2 minutes.

 

[iwinulose]

Kofi Kingston – I like kofi, i really do, he is great inring but i dont see him as a main eventer, well, more a world title holder, i would swap out kofi for jack swagger.

Rey Mysterio

The Miz

R Truth

Alex Riley

Dolph Ziggler

Evan Bourne – i like evan bourne he is great, he will do good in the MITB ladder match cause he is a high flyer, but it doesnt feel like he a major title holder, i would swap him out for either mason ryan (if he wasnt injured) or chris masters.

Alberto Del Rio

This would be my RAW MITB laddermatch card, but thats just me.

my predictions for this match is either, del rio, ziggler, the miz or R-truth one of these 4 guys will win.
__________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________

Sin Cara

Daniel Bryan

Sheamus

Wade Barrett

Ezekiel Jackson - i would throw in the great khali to replace big zeke, i would rather big zeke defends his IC championship in a singles match.

Cody Rhodes

Jinder Mahal

Kane

This would be my smackdown MITB ladder match.

I really hope that sheamus wins the MITB briefcase for smackdown cause he deeserves it, and he needs the push to get him back into the main event.

 

[Skairipa Matrix]

plain and simple id like to see CM Punk win and leave with the title leading to cena being fired and a NEW title being created! as long as del rio doesnt win the title first i honestly cant stand him at all it should be intersting though to see which way WWE/vince mcmahon and triple h decide to go with this though