WWE Extreme Rules - Jack Swagger (c) vs. Randy Orton - World Heavyweight Championship

Well whatever it is I think swagger will win, maybe it could be a cage match? I mean, it's hard to come up with a good gimmick/extreme rules match for swagger and orton. What ever it is though I'm sure swagger will retain anyway. Yeah maybe it should be a cage match, thats the only thing thats coming to mind right now, unless they just make it no holds barred which i guess would be fine, one of those two.
 
Why is Sd's champion defending against a member of the Raw roster? I know Orton's beaten him twice in the last 3 weeks, but tbh Swagger shouldn't have been on Raw at all after winning the strap, but hey, what do i know?

As much as i'd expect Orton to get the 'W', i don't honestly think he will. He's been doing a lot to put over the new guys lately i.e. Kofi, Sheamus, Dibiase, Rhodes and now it looks like Swagger's going to benefit from Orton's experience as well.

I'd also assume that both Swagger and Orton will end up on SD! to fill Taker's absence after this in order to maintain this fued, otherwise i'm guessing either Cena or Batista are going otherwise SD! has no champ.
 
The point is that i think Orton wins the Championship and will be drafted to Smackdown.We all know that if Cena and Orton will be on the same show by the summer , they have to feud with each other.I really don't wanna see this happening again.

We should wait and see the WWE's opinion about Swagger.It seems his run is similar to Sheamus's.I don't think he can survive a no-Dq match against Orton as the winner.No way in hell.The only way sheamus could retain was DQ.He had about 3-4 matches with Cena and Orton and all of them ended in Disqualification.And i don't think Swagger is credible enough to beat Orton fair and square.

So we have only 2 ways to go with this match:1-Orton wins 2- An Interference cost Orton the match.

I really don't see a reason for someone's Interference.Orton is not feuding anyone else.So the only candidates can be Edge or Jericho.

Both situations IMO will result in Randy Orton drafting to SD.
 
I can't wait to see this match. My problem with it, is that I don't know who to go for. On one hand I want Orton to win; I'm just an Orton junkie. But Swagger needs a legitiment reign, and beating Orton would work for that. Orton going to Smackdown would be good for him though.....I guess I'll call Orton for the win, but It would crap on Swagger's push if they did it.
 
As much as I can't wait to see this match, I'd be a fool to sit here like most of you and think that I could properly predict who the winner would be.

In one corner, you have Randy Orton: and established, former champion and the more experienced of the two. Logic points towards Randy winning because he's obviously the more seasoned veteran and was a dominant champion in the not to distant past.

In the other corner, you have Jack Swagger: a young rookie with something to prove. He's a former ECW champion, but never seemed to get a whole lot done since he was moved to Raw after ECW folded. But, he JUST won the title, so logic points towards him finding a way to keep it for a bit longer.

But all of you are forgetting about an important factor that could shake up any of your logic on this match - the 2010 WWE Draft occurs the next night on Raw! Therefore, anything can happen during this match. Orton can be drafted to Smackdown (which makes total sense), but this doesn't necessarily mean he'd win the title, first. He could lose the match at Extreme Rules, get drafted, and continue his feud with Swagger. Or he could win the title, get drafted, and continue his feud with Swagger. Or he could lose to Swagger and not get drafted at all. But this could mean that Batista could win back the title from Cena and bring it to Smackdown, while Orton and the World Heavyweight Championship stay on Raw.

See, you need to eliminate all of your quick thinking and realize that this PPV can go in a million directions. Just like the WWE has being doing since the start of 2010, they continue to amaze us with their complex and unpredictable storylines. I can't wait to tune in for this match.
 
First off,I am little suprised that they forgotten about Jericho and Edge and inserted orton in this match.Jericho didnt even had his rematch.I expected to be triple threat but WWE thinks different

From what we saw on last week it should be very good match.I expect Swagger to retain, possibly by interference from Rhodes.It would be good for Swagger to win cleanly in this one but I dont expect this to happen because of practice with the new champions.Wheather he wins in this one or loses it would be interference.Think about this one

-When Punk won his first championship with MiTB he went on and faced Batista on next PPV and won by DQ because Kane interfered

-When Sheamus won the title on his next PPV he won by DQ when Legacy interfered

-Even when Jeff Hardy won his first championship on next PPV he lost it when Matt Hardy interfered

It seems to be the practice with the new(when I say new I mean fresh first time champions) lately and it should continue here
 
Why are people saying Swagger should win clean? It's a fooking Extreme Rules Match! Anything goes, interference is acceptable. Any win is "clean" by definition in this case.
Swagger needs this win. I do however agree that Swagger could come out of this looking like chump and not a champ. I really hope they understand this is not how you build future stars. It's always been said that perception is reality, what the wrestlers perceive to be true in the ring will be regarded as true at home. They have to make Swagger look on the level of the other ME guys for him to be taken seriously.
 
Swagger has just been pushed to the top with the title, they are not going to make him lose this early, (well I hope not I think Swagger has a lot of potential). I love randy he is my 2nd favourite superstar and it would be great to see the WHC around his waist but I think it's a bit early for swagger to be losing it.
 
1. Orton is the best WWE can offer, so he doesn't need the belt in my opinion. Let him take losses to build other characters i.e. Angle/Anderson. But Orton needs to go to Smackdown. Even though he doesn't need the belt, they need to push the thought that a wrestler of Orton's character needs the have a championship belt in mind at all times. You can't do that with him on Raw because WWE already told us we wouldn't have to watch Cena/Orton for awhile(Thank Goodness!)

2. Swagger has to keep the belt. I don't care if its Swagger or Santino, WWE needs to show some consistency promoting wrestlers. Let Swagger hold onto that belt until Summerslam at least. I understood the Sheamus angle and him losing the belt in time to have big WM matches, but that's not the case right now. We're gonna go throw a summer of meaningless PPVs, so you might as well use this time to build talent. Let Swagger win the belt with a Cody interference, have Cody/Orton drafted to SD, and let them fued for a month or two while Swagger gives us the triple threat ladder match with Edge/Y2J that we deserve! Have Swagger beat those two in that match and you have yourself another main eventer.

3. The biggest factor in it all to me is Batista. He never officially got traded to Raw and I expect him to lose to Cena(Cena only loses Last Man Standing matches due to interference. Who's helping Batista? Otunga?). Idk if its a spoiler or not, but a friend told me Batista is supposed to take a break after this PPV. But if he doesn't and Orton wins the title....Evolution Beef.

I was very surprised to hear this match from Raw last week and wouldn't be surprised if its changed my the end of SD, but with it as is Swagger will walk with the title.
 
The biggest factor in it all to me is Batista. He never officially got traded to Raw and I expect him to lose to Cena(Cena only loses Last Man Standing matches due to interference. Who's helping Batista? Otunga?). Idk if its a spoiler or not, but a friend told me Batista is supposed to take a break after this PPV. But if he doesn't and Orton wins the title....Evolution Beef.

I can understand what your saying with the evolution beef, but they have been teasing that with the feud last year and occasional singles matches on RAW so I don't think that they'd go with Batista/Orton for a feud. Frankly if Orton does win I don't know what they'd go with since Edge is on a face run and Orton is slowly being converted to a face.
 
This cme out of nowhere...it should have been a triple threat with edge and Jericho. I think batista is gonna interfere because of their current beef swagger wont cleanly win because Orton is too big a star
 
i think it will be falls count everywhere match. and i think since orton is on fire right now they will put swagger over him just to push him more....or he'll cheat to win...i think the later of the two.
 
I think that Batista will beat Cena somehow and Orton will beat Swagger, then the next night on Raw Batista will say seeing as he his a SD star he is going there and taking the WWE title with him. That then either sets up for a title swap with the WHC moving back to Raw with Orton

Though the more likely option of Batista gets drafted to Raw and the Cena/Batista and Orton/Swagger fued continues. This also leaves Jericho and Edge to fued.

Then at 'Fatal-4-Way' Jericho,Edge,Swagger and Orton all fight for the title and on Raw Batista,Cena and probably HHH and someone (most likley Sheamus) fight for the WWE title.

But that is just my opinion
 
This storyline makes zero sense to me... I mean really, how did Orton get this title shot? Its a Smackdown title, and Orton is on RAW. If this was a TNA move, it would be beaten to the ground on these threads.

Orton didnt even have a damn number 1 contender match.
 
This storyline makes zero sense to me... I mean really, how did Orton get this title shot? Its a Smackdown title, and Orton is on RAW. If this was a TNA move, it would be beaten to the ground on these threads.

Orton didnt even have a damn number 1 contender match.

It makes sense because he pinned Swagger twice in two weeks. And everyone know the brand split doesn't mean shit when it comes to this situation, I mean look at the WWE Title Match, it's a SD guy vs. a Raw guy and Edge seemed to dodge about last February. As for #1 contenders match, it ended in a double dq meaning a new one had to be announced or a triple threat had to take place (which is what I figured would happen but it didn't).
 
Orton is going to do the job this is gonna be a big win for swagger and his confidence much like how sheamus is getting a rub being in a program with triple h he has improved alot over the mic and he is gonna continue to improve
 
Pretty much a Swagger win......this will cement his place as a credible threat and champion in the company.....
 
This match will be a career turning point for Jack Swagger because in this match he is fighting for his champion and most importantly he will be fighting to prevent The World Heavyweight Champion from going to raw.

If he wins, this will be a turning point for his career because he beat orton and he may be known as a hero for smackdown because he stopped the WHC from going to raw. And I hope that he will continue to be a heel and bragging about him being a smackdown hero and deserved respect from every one. This will be great.


If he loses , its means he will drop back to mid card or have his rematch clause.
 
This Match I'm not that sure about. Didn't Orton just beat him a few weeks ago? The only reason I am excited for this match is because It means Orton will be going to Smackdown and that Swagger was just a Trans champ. It's way too soon for Swagger to be champion, He don't have the skills like Shameous.
 
There have been well over wrestlers who have lost the belt quickly. Even Edge on this past Smackdown was telling Swagger that he lost his after 3 weeks. But I think Swagger losing the belt this fast would appear too close to the WWE admitting they made a mistake giving it to him in the first place.

The way I see it playing out is they have their "extreme rules" match at the PPV. Having basically no DQ allows Swagger to win w/o making Orton look too bad. Will Rhodes get involved? Maybe. It would set up well for my next prediction. Though Orton loses, he still gets drafted to Smackdown, furthering their feud, but Rhodes also gets drafted to Smackdown to keep involved and help keep him over.

The only thing I don't like about this match anyways is it just throws Edge and Jericho to the side. While they're 2 guys who are very over, wtf?
 
Jack Swagger needs a win here to get over as a credible champion. Orton will be champ again soon enough, but WWE really needs to build up Swagger as a Main event Heel to fill the voids left by both Edge and Randy Orton turning face. I do however think that it should have been a match involving Jericho and Edge instead of Orton though, unless they are just using Orton as a Main Event Test like they did with Sheamus at the Rumble. Orton seems to be the go to guy these days, he's fueded with Kofi, Sheamus, Dibias and Rhodes, and now Jack Swagger in attempts to get each of them over as major contenders, and I think that Swagger will pick up the win via nefarious actions, maybe Dibiase getting involved if they want to get him into the main-event scene, although he seems to have been starting a fued with Christian.
 
see it as a win for swagger.....will make him look like a legit champ by having him beat the most over superstar atm....not to mention with the match being extreme rules, swagger should come out with more of a ruthless asshole type of personality, lets not forget WWE had him lose to Santino a few months ago, this guy needs some credibility this is the perfect match to do it in
 
Granted the draft is the Monday following Extreme Rules, I predict [an unlikely] win for Randy Orton with John Cena being drafted to SmackDown effectively trading the WWE Championship and World Heavyweight Championship between the brands. How will Randy win? There are many possibilities for how this match will turn out. If Chris Jericho and Edge have a match of their own the same night, that virtually eliminates the possibility for outside interference from them. Cody Rhodes and Ted DiBiase have hardly forgotten the beating taken dished out onto them by Randy Orton at WrestleMania XXVI. If anyone interferes, it will be either of the former members of Legacy. Unless either Edge or Jericho interfere here, I don't see Randy Orton losing to Swagger. Randy is building momentum like you'd never expect. He has, in the few weeks since WrestleMania, effectively become one of the top if not the top favorite. However, I can see a Swagger victory here which can lead to a plethora of storylines. Randy's victory would simply mean the exchange of belts between the brands and eminent drafting of John Cena to SmackDown. Lets face it: John Cena may be the face of the WWE, but that doesn't mean he will stay on RAW. Specially with SmackDown's jump to SyFy.

Possible scenarios for a Swagger victory could lead well into the Fatal Four Way pay-per-view or even wrap up by Over The Limit. I guarantee, however, that come SummerSlam, Jack Swagger will NOT be a champion of anything, nor be involved in any shape or form in a match for either of the two world championships. With the recently released promotional poster for Over The Limit featuring Edge with an all too familiar grin, one can guess as to the fate of the Rated R Superstar as a world champion by the next pay-per-view event, or title bout. Based on that assumption, I can see Edge getting interfering in this match on behalf of Swagger pulling a one-over on his former tag teammate, Randy Orton, leading to a glorified rivalry between the two in a battle of the anti-heroes for either of the two world titles at Over The Limit. What this means for both Swagger and Randy Orton will depend much on the draft and its aftermath but resulting in both Edge's and Orton's presence on the same brand regardless of Swagger's status as champion. Edge, being the ultimate opportunist will capitalize on a situation brought on by Swagger's ignorance and take the title which would drag both Jericho and Swagger on as Orton and Edge take center stage at Over The Limit where the title would remain in the hands of Edge leading into a Fatal Four Way "Last Man Standing" style match at the eponymous pay-per-view.

Varying scenarios become quickly lost in a blur due to the impending draft on Monday night following Extreme Rules, so it's really hard to say. With the advertisement of the draft as one that will level the WWE Universe, specially from what was seen on NXT this past Tuesday [04/13] when CM Punk helped his rookie defeat Luke Gallows in what will most certainly have some repercussion on SmackDown in the following weeks, the Straight Edge Society maybe on the verge of a huge shake up. How does this relate to the Swagger vs. Orton match and its aftermath? Whatever happens at Extreme Rules can easily be undone by the draft, so any prediction is as good any other based on that the draft may create a blank slate scenario wherein all current rivalries, specially with Triple H's injury, may go bye-bye on us. I don't see Cena losing to Batista unless Batista postpones his break to post SummerSlam leading into a final confrontation there leaving Cena open to new rivals, but with Triple H's injury shelving hims for an undetermined amount of time, and Sheamus being an unlikely new foe, I see the draft really shaking things up by either keeping Orton and Cena on the same brand in order to have another feud, effectively spelling Orton's defeat at the hands of Swagger at Extreme Rules, or Edge's return to RAW or Cena's transfer to SmackDown where the two will once again feud. The new attitude brought on by Edge would make for a great rivalry between the two as Edge is effectively what John Cena would be if he were a good character. Much respect to John Cena the man but his current persona isn't exactly appealing to anyone over the age of thirteen. But when all is said and done, the playing field will really change with the return of The Undertaker at around SummerSlam or Hell in a Cell.
 
I like that they're definitely trying to build young stars and the only way a guy like Swagger is gonna get over the right way is by going over someone like Orton. I know Orton's got all the momentum in the world, but I can totally see him losing this one and continuing with swagger by getting drafted to Smackdown. Orton is slowly stealing Cena's thunder and no way they're gonna take the name and face of the company off the flagship show.

Smart money's on a swagger victory, by hook or crook, and Orton getting Drafted to friday nights. Which I think is a good thing.
 
Yeah I definitely see Swagger winning, and because Cena's likely to win his match, my guess is that WWE want to avoid another Cena V Orton feud right now. Begs the question as to who's next for the WWE Contender spot. It's still too early for DiBiase.
 

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