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WWE Elimination Chamber: EC Match to determine #1 contender for the WHC

Martin Gabriel

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This match is stacked and it looks like it should be one hell of a match given the competitors involved in this one. Looking quite forward to this one. As for a winner, I'm thinking either Chris Jericho to setup him and Ziggler at Mania or Randy Orton. I don't really think Daniel Bryan or Kane will win this one. Jack Swagger either as he just got back. Mark Henry it seems is getting another monster push so it's possible he could win this.
 
I think Y2J wins by beating Mark Henry. It seems like it will be Jericho Vs Ziggler but one problem. Where does that leave Orton, Swagger, & Henry at WrestleMania?
 
Jericho seems to be the random element here. He's in the unusual (for WWE) position of being around only for a couple of months, and that doesn't seem to be enough time to really utilize his services, especially for an extended program. Is he just here to pick up a few bucks and do the company a favor, meaning they don't really have anything special planned for him? If that's the case, he doesn't win this EC event.

If management wants to set something big up for Wrestlemania, Jericho could take the duke. He and Mark Henry are really the only main eventers in the match.....which presumes that Randy Orton doesn't qualify as a top guy, given his performances of late. That's arguable, of course. For all we know, Randy agreed to be pinned by Henry under the condition he win this EC match.

There's enough to make this contest worth watching.
 
Let's assume they don't play ping pong with the World Heavyweight Championship and Del Rio maintains.

You can rule out both members of Team Hell No either way.

Del Rio vs. Mark Henry wouldn't be much different than the current feud Del Rio has with Big Show "taking on the giant."

Del Rio vs. Orton. Face vs. face aside, this is a feud we had a lot of last year already.

Del Rio vs. Y2J is interesting, but I have no idea what the build up would be, especially again with the face vs. face issue.

Del Rio vs. Swagger is my pick. Especially after that promo Colter did on Raw? Del Rio is the perfect target for their little race war.

I'm also assuming Ziggler isn't cashing in at HitC since that would brew a feud between him and Del Rio though triple threat route is always there and leaves the options much more open.
 
One thing is painfully obvious about this chamber match. Ziggler will be eliminated by Jericho relatively early and it will look like he took a big beating or he's injured. Then later in the night, he'll cash in money in the bank on the winner of ADR-Big Show.

As for who wins the Chamber, probably Randy Orton.
 
It's a strange match. Swagger & Henry seem to have been positioned as biggest threats in this match after their returns to TV. Yet neither should be anywhere near the world title picture at this time of the year.

Whatever the outcome the WHC match at at Mania will be fairly uninspiring. Each year there's usually a match where they just throw anybody who doesn't have a place on the Mania card into a multi-man match. This year I'd be inclined to do that with the WHC match. Big Show vs. Del Rio vs. Orton vs. Henry vs. Jack Swagger vs. Y2J in a Scramble or 6-pack match. It's hardly a match worthy of being at Mania. But it get's plenty of guys onto the card in what would be an entertaining opening match.

To add another element to that I'd have Ziggler explicitly state that he's be cashing in immediately after that match.

Naturally that'd make this E.C. match completely pointless. But it is anyway, so....
 
What's painfully obvious is the fact that what you just said cannot physically happen, as Ziggler's not in the match.

With the way Swagger's character's been developed recently, I wouldn't be surprised he if he won it...xenophobic american vs del rio may well be the ploy.
 
I think Y2J wins by beating Mark Henry. It seems like it will be Jericho Vs Ziggler but one problem. Where does that leave Orton, Swagger, & Henry at WrestleMania?
ok, firstly, I think the winner is either Jericho or Henry...my guess right now (if they want it to make sense) is Jericho who would then face a newly crowned world champion in Dolph Ziggler...as for where that leaves Swagger, that's seems easy....Alberto Del Rio....after Zeb came on, my first thought was, Del Rio vs. Swagger soon?? maybe that will be a WM...as for Henry, I have no clue, but I was hoping maybe Ryback...and as for Orton, they can do Orton vs. Sheamus at WM without a title...I personally hope it's Ziggler vs. Jericho, but who knows what it will be, WWE has been unpredictable with the world title picture lately.
 
This EC match has a descent mix of high flyers, heavy hitters and brawlers

Here are my thoughts on the participants:

Mark Henry: Awesome heel maybe better than Show since he doesn't talk so much and just looks scary as hell but I don't see him headlining WM after being out of the picture for so long.
Daniel Bryan: Been out of the singles picture too long and no real build for him to be put in a WHC spot at the grandest stage of the all.
Kane: Same as Bryan...although one could argue he might be in line for 1 last title run but I don't think this is his time.
Swagger: Really? When was the last time anyone cared at all about this guy? His ancient sidekick might be enough to get him a title shot b4 mania but that's all.
Orton: Will he win and somehow face Shaemus for the title? Will he finally turn heel? Honestly I don't have a clue what they're ultimately going to do with Orton so your guess is as good as mine.

Jericho: I think he might be the only guy I can see coming out with the W as it sets up a good story for WM. Y2J wins the chamber match and proves Ziggler wrong by finally winning the big one at WM only to have Ziggler cash in mitb and take the title away
 
WWE have done a masterful job with this match! With the way they've played this ADR face turn, have had ziggler keep hold of the briefcase, re introducing Jericho, Henry & Swagger and planted the seeds of doubt with Hell No as well as Orton's attitude towards people.
We have absolutely no idea who is going to win this!

You could make a case for and the book Wrestlemania for all the participants except possibly Kane.

It's this match alone that's making me consider purchasing a PPV that I NEVER buy!

I say sit back, enjoy and be shocked by what the WWE do with this really well developed WHC scene!
 
I'm picking Chris Jericho to win the Chamber, then beat ADR at WrestleMania. and we'll get our Ziggler successful cash in on Chris Jericho at WM.

Their really setting this one up. The only other realistic option IMO is Orton to win then turn heel before WrestleMania.
 
Who says del rio walks out as champion? Maybe Jericho wins this and Ziggler cashes in.

It's will be a fun match, lots of scenarios and little subplots.
 
Eh, as usual, picking a Chamber winner is a tricky task, and WWE did a good of inserting a pack of guys, who don't have the "clear cut choice to win it all" momentum.

Mark Henry and Jack Swagger are in the middle of two good return runs, but I honestly can't picture either man winning this one. It's a case of "too soon" for me, and I'm pretty sure we'll see the "gang up and attack the one big threat" strategy for Henry at some point in the match, same thing can be said about Kane.

I also can't picture a scenario, where Bryan or Kane win. But I think we'll see some major progress towards a Daniel Byran VS kane match at Wrestlemania here. The tension between both men is starting to reach a boiling point. Bryan or Kane could cost one another a shot at having the WHC match at Wrestlemania (in the style of Triple H and Sheamus in 2010), progressing the upcoming feud between the two.

Jericho is a dark horse in all of this, and I'd be shocked if he wins this one. The selfish side of me doesn't want it to happen, because Jericho would have to turn heel to face ADR, and I am BEYOND burnt out on the stale condescending jerk heel Jericho character.

I want to pick Orton, but he spent a good amount of time feuding with Del Rio in 2012, so I can't imagine WWE giving us a Wrestlemania match between two guys, who had free matches on TV
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This is a tough match to predict, and I think it will be very interesting. Henry and Swagger seem to be positioning themselves as front runners so far. From Swagger to go from not being on TV to number one contender is a stretch, but it is the World title so I could see it. Henry is running through everyone right now, and if Del Rio wasn't feuding with Show now Henry would be my pick. Orton is a drk horse here, and a heel turn could be coming. If I have to pick one, I am going to go with Swagger just to keep his momentum going into Mania. I could deal with a Del Rio Swagger feud going into Mania.
 
Very interesting selection of wrestlers. Looking down the list I am intrigued as to who the winner will be - there is not an obvious victor. Mark Henry, Daniel Bryan, Kane and Jack Swagger are the collective underdogs. Henry has just returned and doesn't have the star power to hold a world title match at Mania. Kane and Bryan already have belts but either could win and drop the belts on Raw.

Swagger would be a long-shot. A few months ago I said it would be really good if Swagger returned won the Rumble and faced Ziggler cashed it (with their previous history) but there is not impending change to face for either.

The two obvious choices are Randy Orton and Y2J. For either to win I would think that their needs to be a heel turn or at least a heel in the match at mania. I don't see them turning Y2J in such a short time-span and I see him destined to face Ziggler at Mania. An Orton heel turn could work and would be refreshing. Everything changes if Ziggler cashes in and becomes champ or if their is a surprise entrant. I want Y2J to win in the opening match of the night and than have Ziggler cash in after the WHC match setting up the two of them at Mania.
 
The more I think about it. I've come to the conclusion that only 2 superstars can win the EC, either Orton or Jericho. First case scenario is Jericho wins and later on in the night Ziggler cashes in MITB on Del Rio after Big show lays him to waste. He will get his rematch at Mania making it a triple threat match between Jericho, Del Rio and Ziggler with Ziggler going over. Scenario 2 is that Orton wins and Del Rio tops Big show setting up with Orton vs Del Rio at WM. After that match Ziggler cashes in MITB and leaves WM new World Champ. All I can see and feel is going to happen is that by the end of WM 29 Ziggler will be WHC.
 
If you look at Zeb Coulter's comments last night being aimed, primarily, towards illegal immigrants, it's a possibility that it might lead to Jack Swagger feuding with Alberto Del Rio. At this point, it doesn't look like it's going to be Sheamus vs. Orton at WM for the WHC, so I think it's time to start considering other potential contenders for Del Rio. Swagger has just returned so I don't see him getting the win. I could see him feuding with Del Rio later on, but I don't see it happening at WM.

I doubt that Jericho will take the match. I'm not sure what Jericho's schedule us post WM, but I'd be willing to bet that it's not going to be full time. Jericho is also someone that's great at making people look good, so I don't see him taking the win here either.

This match MIGHT be what pushes Team Hell No right to the edge of breaking up. I could see one of them eliminating the other and the eliminated one doing something that winds up getting the remaining member eliminated shortly after or later on in the match. I don't think it'll lead to a full implosion of the team, but it'll probably the step before the last big step that ultimately does. Another scenario here could lead to one of them being eliminated, the other almost wins the match or possibly does win the match, friction develops between the two and the result is one stabbing the other in the back very soon.

That leaves Orton & Mark Henry. Randy Orton has a rematch against Henry this Friday on SD!, so I think Orton MIGHT avenge himself against Henry by defeating him this Friday to make things even for Henry's clean win this past Friday. If that does indeed happen, then I think Mark Henry is the favorite to walk out. If Henry scores another decisive win against Orton this Friday, then I think Orton will be the one to walk out of EC the winner and go onto challenge Del Rio for the title.

I'd rather see Bryan or Henry face Del Rio at WM for the title. I don't see any real conflict right now between Orton & Del Rio. Mark Henry is back as the vicious juggernaut that dominated WWE in the second half of 2011 and I think he & Del Rio could have a solid match. I don't see Bryan going on either as I have a feeling it'll wind up being Bryan vs. Kane at WM.
 
I'd have Jericho win the Chamber.

After Del Rio defeats Big Show, Jack Swagger runs down and decimates Del Rio with Zeb shouting "Immigrant!" etc. Dolph Ziggler cashes in on ADR and becomes the new World Heavyweight Champion then cuts a speech accusing Y2J of ducking him by entering the chamber and telling Jericho that if he's going to Wrestlemania, then Ziggler is going there with him now in order to retire him for good on the grandest stage of them all.

Then you also get a sick personal feud / aggressive opener for the 'Mania card with Del Rio vs Swagger, possibly in a hardcore situation (Eg. JBL and Finlay's Belfast Brawl), that really pushes Swagger's new character and also really gets the fans even more behind face Del Rio.
 
I expect Del Rio to retain the title at the pay-per-view, either Henry or Orton would be fine choices for him to face at Wrestlemania for the belt, but personally I'm pulling more for Orton to win the #1 contendership. I don't see Henry vs. Del Rio being a great match, but it would be good just for Henry losing to Del Rio, then decimating him so bad for Ziggler to run in afterwards, cash-in on Del Rio and win the belt. Del Rio would be a perfect feud for Orton to finally turn heel for, and even though they feuded last year, I think they would pull out another tremendous match with each other. Plus I wouldn't mind seeing Sheamus and Henry feud with each other again and fight at Wrestlemania, so Sheamus can test Henry now that he's back stronger than ever.

What I'm most interested in this match though is how they handle Jack Swagger. He's built up strong momentum lately and they have a good opportunity here to build it even stronger. I mentioned in another thread that even I don't think he will win, he should dominate the match by eliminating the most guys in the match, lasting the longest amount of time in the match, and personally I think he should get eliminated last too, but I don't see that happening though, it will likely be Orton or Henry who gets eliminated last, but getting eliminated second last would be just as good for him.
 
This has the potential to be one of the best EC matches, get Swagger and Kane in there at least, you will have two great wrestlers in Swagger and Bryan, the high flying style of Mysterio, the intensity of Orton and the monsterous prowess of Kane. Would be a great mix.
 
As nice as it would be to see Jericho win this and then put over Del Rio at Wrestlemania before leaving again, we all know that its going to be Orton who wins this. But in a way, that' good because it seems like Orton was just bumbling around 2012 without high-profile matches or feuds, so it'll be nice to have Orton back in the WHC title scene again, and who knows, maybe they'll turn him heel in the process which is just what his character needs right now. Orton is one of those people that isn't necessarily bad at being a babyface, just extremely boring. Randy is a natural heel and is perfect for the role of a villain, so if they can push Orton back into the title picture and make him heel in the process, then I'd have no problem with him winning this.
But I still wish Jericho would win.
 
This has the potential to be one of the best EC matches, get Swagger and Kane in there at least, you will have two great wrestlers in Swagger and Bryan, the high flying style of Mysterio, the intensity of Orton and the monsterous prowess of Kane. Would be a great mix.

Although Mysterio isn't in the match, I completely agree. Would love to see a nice minute or 2 minute spot with Swagger and Bryan trading holds and counters.
 
This will be a good match with all 6 men, as for determining who will walk out number 1 contender at mania, lets see who the candidates are:

Daniel Bryan- He'll have a good showing but I think between him and Kane, one of the them will eliminate the other which will set up a program for them at mania, we've seen these 2 boil up the past couple weeks and as sad as it is, cuz I've really enjoyed Team Hell No, they'll break up and have a match at mania.

Kane- Same thing as Bryan

Jack Swagger- If Swagger had gotten injured and then made his return I would maybe give him a chance at winning, but I doubt they're gonna have Swagger a main event match since he wasn't doing anything close to the main event before leaving, but I think he'll have a good showing in the chamber, can't wait to see him and Bryan lock up.

Mark Henry- He's been nothing but dominant since returning, but I pray to God that he doesn't win. He just doesn't have the star power that people would pay to see in a title match at mania. While he's huge, he's not a really good wrestler and has a limited moveset, so I see the rest of the chamber working together to eliminate Henry at some point during the match.

Chris Jericho- He's the wild card in this match. I can see him walking out number 1 contender and then somehow facing Ziggler at mania for the title, but as mentioned before Jericho now is much better used to come back and feud with someone to help get them over and make them look good, and I don't think he needs to be in the world title match to do that.

Randy Orton- Orton is my pick to win the chamber and I hope he does. He's been out of the title picture for a while now and has been working to help put younger talent over, and I think its time he gets back in the main event picture, and just in time for mania. Theres been talk of Randy getting a big push to be once again recognized as one of the top stars of the company, as he should be. Also, while I've been enjoying his face run and seeing him cheered by fans, I think we can all agree that we are hungry and waiting for an epic Orton heel turn, which is what hes best at, and its been discussed a lot lately. So I predict Orton wins the chamber, turns heel and battles for the world title at mania.

Overall, this should be a good chamber match, can't wait to see what happens.
 
prediction granted Ziggler is in the match.
Wins EC to earn a World Title shot at Mania, goes onto Mania and Wins then the WWE title is on last and he cashes in at the end of the match to take both titles and unifies them and brings back respectability and the ratings go through the roof and all is well again.

Yeah ok the last bit is dreaming but the first 2 parts could certainly be possible.

Or.... may have already been said but Jericho wins and Ziggler gets interjected into the title match and still wins and then cashes in to claim both titles, either way the story writes itself they have a perfect opportunity to crown an undisputed champion again.
 
I think we'll see Randy Orton win the chamber match, he has not won the World Title in almost 2 years and has not had his big 'mania match since WM25. To me it seems unlikely that we'll see any other contender as a candidate to win the match, unless the WWE plan on having a swerve and Mark Henry or Jericho winning, to me that seems highly unlikely.

Not only that, I think Sheamus will win the World Title on Smackdown setting up for Orton vs Sheamus at Wrestlemania, top star vs top star and of course, Orton would have turned heel. My guess is that Del Rio loses the title on smackdown, gets a rematch and loses, this sets up the Orton/Shemus feud leading to Orton turning heel the night after he wins the chamber match.

If we don't see that scenrio unfoliding, then I think we'll get a triple threat match for the World title match at Wrestlemania and of course, Dolph Ziggler cashes in at Wrestlemania. I am personally not a huge fan of triple threats, but it would make sense. Considering we've seen Orton/Del Rio numerous times, we saw Sheamus/Del Rio a dozen times so to me it only makes sense for Orton to face Sheamus and Del Rio at 'mania.
 

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