So now we kno what is the plan for the WE Title match during Raw's 3 hour special next Monday. What do u guys think about this matchup to crown a new champion and who do u think will win? Personally, I hope Orton regains the title because I really can't see Big Show winning and God knows I don't want Triple H or Cena to become champion again this soon. So what do u think?
WWE Championship Fatal Four Way matchup
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Well at this point in time I don't want to see any of the four as champion. Triple H getting #14.. ehhh......... Cena winning would be boring just like all his other ones. Orton winning would be pointless and he sucks as champion due to poor booking. Big Show hasn't held a world title since 2002, it dreads me to say this but i think the Big Show may win just because theres 3 plausible contenders and Cena's bitch. Everyone will think the 3 plausible contenders will win then Cena's bitch gets the win setting up Show vs Cena for 3 more ppvs while Orton vs HHH finally finishes in a way where no titles are involved.
I'm dreading Raw more and more for whats to come.
I'm dreading Raw more and more for whats to come.
I'm a huge Cena fan but I don't feel he needs the title just yet. It should be saved for Summerslam, or another huge PPV. He should get screwed by Miz somehow, that would be good for them two. HHH shouldn't return and win it, but there is a good chance he will get it. Orton's reign was spectacularly awful, so I am not keen on him winning it either and Big Show would be the worst champion possible. My pick is therefore Big Show before he drops it to Hornswoggle cleanly.
I don't see why four main event players should be in this. Sure, it is more suspense because you don't know who is going to win, but would it hurt to have Miz or MVP in randomly? They can have a good showing and prove they deserve to be there with these guys but obviously not win.
I don't see why four main event players should be in this. Sure, it is more suspense because you don't know who is going to win, but would it hurt to have Miz or MVP in randomly? They can have a good showing and prove they deserve to be there with these guys but obviously not win.
TheBestThereEverWillBe
Excellence of Execution
Honestly, I'm tired of all 4 of these guys. Triple winning # 14, i dont see how that is not boring. Cena needs a dramatic change of events because he's gone from babyface to boring face. Big Show is nothing but a big sorry mo fo. just a main event jobber. he never wins.
so, i guess im going with Randy Orton. they should liven up his act and give him a respectable reign. he should cheer up too, always so angry.
so, i guess im going with Randy Orton. they should liven up his act and give him a respectable reign. he should cheer up too, always so angry.
TheOneBigWill
[This Space for Rent]
So, anyone else pulling for a shocking out of completely left field Big Show; Championship reign? 
Didn't think so, but honestly - I'd semi-mark out. Semi, meaning I'd react because I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell it'd ever happen.
Anyways, I find this match to be very boring before it even begins. So we're adding two mini single's feuds into a Fatal Four Way. Again, with the Fatal-ness of not adding an elimination stipulation, really? Would it of been that hard to just say it's an elimination match, to make the person truly earn it?
I guess this is the W.W.E's way of giving it directly to Orton, by allowing him to spend all night on the floor, only to sweep in after Triple H or more than likely Cena, has put someone down on the mat for the victory - only to have it stolen away by Orton. Honestly, if Orton comes out a Champion, I'm going to be more pissed off than anything else that could happen in this match. Why? Because they should've never taken the fucking title off him to begin with, if this was their objective?
How hard would it have truly been, to just run an injury angle from Legacy to Batista, on the Pay per view? Really now.
And the biggest loser of this entire situation.. The Miz. Why the fuck isn't he involved? Big Show lost two straight Pay per view matches against John Cena, yet Miz is like 4070570985985-0 against Cena.. yet still gets ignored in a Championship match.
Also, M.V.P. What about him? You know, the guy who on this past Monday's Raw said if the title was going to be decided next week, he wanted in on it? Apparently that was just him spouting off random shit that no one thought was him being serious.
So, this is going to come down to a whole lot of no one truly gives a shit.
Triple H gets the victory, and it'll just add one more title reign to his list - one step closer to Ric Flair, and one step furthering himself away from Edge.
Cena gets the title, and in all honesty I'd be banking on another injury coming up, because it seems like when Cena's had the title or even came close to getting it, he's come up injured and had to miss time. With that said, I think it's karma and the W.W.E needs to take notice.
I've already said what I felt if Orton gets the title, so I'll sum it up by saying.. Fuck you, W.W.E, you uncreative pieces of shit.
And finally, it brings me to my choice to cheer for.. Big Show. Yes, he's not that great, and he's kinda tall, still.. so that's going for him. But seriously, it'd be shocking, would it not? So for sake of wanting something original and not same old, same old (unless it involves Edge being opportunistic again, and taking someone out to put himself in) I'm picking the Big Show to attempt making someone gasp, if even for a second.
Didn't think so, but honestly - I'd semi-mark out. Semi, meaning I'd react because I don't think there's a snowballs chance in hell it'd ever happen.Anyways, I find this match to be very boring before it even begins. So we're adding two mini single's feuds into a Fatal Four Way. Again, with the Fatal-ness of not adding an elimination stipulation, really? Would it of been that hard to just say it's an elimination match, to make the person truly earn it?
I guess this is the W.W.E's way of giving it directly to Orton, by allowing him to spend all night on the floor, only to sweep in after Triple H or more than likely Cena, has put someone down on the mat for the victory - only to have it stolen away by Orton. Honestly, if Orton comes out a Champion, I'm going to be more pissed off than anything else that could happen in this match. Why? Because they should've never taken the fucking title off him to begin with, if this was their objective?
How hard would it have truly been, to just run an injury angle from Legacy to Batista, on the Pay per view? Really now.
And the biggest loser of this entire situation.. The Miz. Why the fuck isn't he involved? Big Show lost two straight Pay per view matches against John Cena, yet Miz is like 4070570985985-0 against Cena.. yet still gets ignored in a Championship match.
Also, M.V.P. What about him? You know, the guy who on this past Monday's Raw said if the title was going to be decided next week, he wanted in on it? Apparently that was just him spouting off random shit that no one thought was him being serious.
So, this is going to come down to a whole lot of no one truly gives a shit.
Triple H gets the victory, and it'll just add one more title reign to his list - one step closer to Ric Flair, and one step furthering himself away from Edge.
Cena gets the title, and in all honesty I'd be banking on another injury coming up, because it seems like when Cena's had the title or even came close to getting it, he's come up injured and had to miss time. With that said, I think it's karma and the W.W.E needs to take notice.
I've already said what I felt if Orton gets the title, so I'll sum it up by saying.. Fuck you, W.W.E, you uncreative pieces of shit.
And finally, it brings me to my choice to cheer for.. Big Show. Yes, he's not that great, and he's kinda tall, still.. so that's going for him. But seriously, it'd be shocking, would it not? So for sake of wanting something original and not same old, same old (unless it involves Edge being opportunistic again, and taking someone out to put himself in) I'm picking the Big Show to attempt making someone gasp, if even for a second.
Dr. Stinger A. Zoidberg
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I dont care who wins as long as its not Big Show...Look at it like this
If Big Show wins, he has to go onto The Bash to defend the title against lets say...Cena... If Cena wins, Big Show will envoke his rematch clause and he will most likely be on the Summerslam card...in the ME...IMO Big Show is one of the most boring people to watch and he also makes a match slow as hell. So anyone but Big Show winning would be a step...a small step, in the right direction.
If Big Show wins, he has to go onto The Bash to defend the title against lets say...Cena... If Cena wins, Big Show will envoke his rematch clause and he will most likely be on the Summerslam card...in the ME...IMO Big Show is one of the most boring people to watch and he also makes a match slow as hell. So anyone but Big Show winning would be a step...a small step, in the right direction.
Fuck yeah. Triple H has just had about 5 over the past year. Orton is just coming off one. Cena will hold the title again in the near furture anywa. Yeah, Big Show should win that shit. You won't see it coming and he can lose it at The Bash, simple.
Or better still. Legacy takes out Big Show, Cena & Triple H and just as you think Orton is going to be awarder the title, out comes...Festus. Or maybe somebody slightly better. New champion, new feud.
Seems to me like this match won't create any new feuds or anything intresting at all.
Roflcopter
Dark Match Winner
TBH i can see Orton winning this, but then losing it to HHH at the bash......boring, But wat i wanna see is cena winning it(and yes i to hate cena). And then at the Bash losing it to THE MIZ!!!!!!!!!!!!! very unlikely though
TheOneBigWill
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Speaking as relatively honest as I can.. One man, two words, 16 former Championship reigns.. Christian Cage. (thought I was thinking someone else, didn't ya - seriously look it up, he's held 16 total titles in the W.W.E)
Anyways, no - I was thinking someone else - Ric Flair. Honestly.
It's IN Charlotte, N.C., and the Bash is in roughly 3 weeks. Why not? Seriously, Ric Flair is going to step back inside the ring to Wrestle, and it's going to be against Randy Orton.
Triple H/Randy Orton can't happen just yet, we still have Night of Champions in July to go through, before we get to Summerslam where their feud can happen inside HIAC, or 3 Stages of Hell. Either, Or.
So I was thinking.. Ric Flair could honestly get a huge pop by winning the Heavyweight title on Raw this coming Monday, only to drop it to Orton at "The Bash". It'd make more sense and increase Orton's heelness by Punting Flair in the head, taking him back out of the picture.
Then you go to NoC, where you either get a random M.V.P/Orton match, or a possible regular single's match with Triple H/Orton, followed by their gimmick match at Summerslam, which I'm sure is coming. All in all, Flair would be a shocking option.
Now, since W.W.E isn't this creative, I'm still backing Big Show. Not just for the original-ness of the idea, but also because Miz could get a Heavyweight title shot out of a Triple Threat match that I foresee coming at "The Bash".
All in all.. anyone except for Triple H, Randy Orton or John Cena. If that means Big Show by default, so be it. But I'm secretly pulling for Flair to somehow get added - in his hometown.
This whole situation pisses me off. And I hate the fact that this 3-hour 3-for-all show is happening now. I like when the brands do their own things for an extended period of time and not overlap too much. I feel these shows disrupt story-telling, or worse, sacrifice it for what is essentially a glorified house show-Glitzy matches that ultimately fail to deliver because there is no story behind them.
That being said, I was hoping they would turn this injury angle into a tournament. That's right, a 16-man tournament that would culminate in three weeks at Night of Champions with the final 4 or something like that.
It would be great to get some new feuds going.
So all that being said, I hope no one wins Monday. I hope they fight to a no contest and the title remains vacant so they choose do something like this.
It's just too bad WWE is that creative anymore.
That being said, I was hoping they would turn this injury angle into a tournament. That's right, a 16-man tournament that would culminate in three weeks at Night of Champions with the final 4 or something like that.
It would be great to get some new feuds going.
So all that being said, I hope no one wins Monday. I hope they fight to a no contest and the title remains vacant so they choose do something like this.
It's just too bad WWE is that creative anymore.
scabooshmoo1
Occasional Pre-Show
i can realy only see orton winning this with a interferance from ted and cody. theres no way trips should win this 1 week after returning, big show??. and john cena needs to build up this feud with miz.. i realy cant see this ending in a no contest but with the way wwe has been going lately with throwing curveballs and suprising us im just thowing it out there but i wouldnt be suprised if i here. HERE COMES THE MONEY!!
p.s when is hbk and undertaker coming back?
p.s.s what is kayfabe?
p.s when is hbk and undertaker coming back?
p.s.s what is kayfabe?
I knew this would become a clusterfuck. They just couldn't give us a tourney, could they? Make it span the show, they have 3 fucking hours. The main event could be the finals for the tournament. and the tournament matches can be broken up by the other championship matches/random ass mid-card matches. I mean really.
Though, in reality, I had a sneaking suspicion they'd pull something like this shit. It was going to be either this, a 3-way, or a Battle Royal. Just so that Orton could sneak away then come back in after Cena and Triple H do the "Oh my god, we hurt each other so much we might not make a 10 ten count" spot. Anything so that they can use their "Viper" noun.
As far as who wins, fuck who cares. If they give it to Cena I would love it, because the ratings need it. But Summerslam is destined for that title change. Which leaves Triple H, who couldn't get the ratings up himself either. And a 14th reign? Really? That would be his 14th, right?
Big Show? I'd mark out. It'd be fucking hilarious. But i have a feeling he's going to lock in his bastard child of a Camel Clutch thing on Cena, take a few chair shots from Miz, and be out of it. Cena will go to chase him away, get caught in an RKO. Orton gets the pin because Triple H was too busy finding his sledgehammer to break up the pin.
Though, in reality, I had a sneaking suspicion they'd pull something like this shit. It was going to be either this, a 3-way, or a Battle Royal. Just so that Orton could sneak away then come back in after Cena and Triple H do the "Oh my god, we hurt each other so much we might not make a 10 ten count" spot. Anything so that they can use their "Viper" noun.
As far as who wins, fuck who cares. If they give it to Cena I would love it, because the ratings need it. But Summerslam is destined for that title change. Which leaves Triple H, who couldn't get the ratings up himself either. And a 14th reign? Really? That would be his 14th, right?
Big Show? I'd mark out. It'd be fucking hilarious. But i have a feeling he's going to lock in his bastard child of a Camel Clutch thing on Cena, take a few chair shots from Miz, and be out of it. Cena will go to chase him away, get caught in an RKO. Orton gets the pin because Triple H was too busy finding his sledgehammer to break up the pin.
666_The_Game_666
Pre-Show Stalwart
well having Orton is a no brainer Triple H being included is well only because he came back this week and well the only other main 2 people in Raw are Cena and Show. I remeber reading in May that WWE was gonna give Orton another long run as champ so there maybe a little spoiler in that to whos gonna be champ
Let get ready for Triple H and Orton Round 2
Let get ready for Triple H and Orton Round 2
HHHDiedForOurSins
Pre-Show Stalwart
This weeks RAW will already be a definite ratings draw anyway with the guarantee of a new WWE Champion being crowned on free TV so why are they putting all the same guys in the mix we've seen for the past year, this would be the perfect time to give MVP or Miz a shot at a high profile match.
What the hell was the point of MVP cutting that promo on RAW saying he was gonna make sure he was involved in the title match this week only for the 4 established main event guys to get the spot instead? It makes him look like a jobber, I can only hope Big Show & Miz take out Cena or something like that and the new GM adds him as a replacement, he doesn't have to win, but at least give him a strong showing.
If the match stays the way the it is, I think Cena gets the title back, which is probably smart, HHH & Orton don't need the title to go and have their hell in a cell match to finally finish their feud and Big Show just can't be taken seriously after losing cleanly to Cena so many times lately.
It should be a good match though and RAW this week will be interesting but I'd much rather they had done a huge one night tournament for the title.
What the hell was the point of MVP cutting that promo on RAW saying he was gonna make sure he was involved in the title match this week only for the 4 established main event guys to get the spot instead? It makes him look like a jobber, I can only hope Big Show & Miz take out Cena or something like that and the new GM adds him as a replacement, he doesn't have to win, but at least give him a strong showing.
If the match stays the way the it is, I think Cena gets the title back, which is probably smart, HHH & Orton don't need the title to go and have their hell in a cell match to finally finish their feud and Big Show just can't be taken seriously after losing cleanly to Cena so many times lately.
It should be a good match though and RAW this week will be interesting but I'd much rather they had done a huge one night tournament for the title.
WOLFPACK0524
Occasional Pre-Show
What a surprise. HHH, Orton, Cena and Big Show...
Same people except for Big Show being filler. What was the point of MVP saying he was to get into the Main Event. I guess we have HHH pulling his weight again. Back to Mid-card status MVP, BACK I TELL YOU! Not a fan of this idea and not a fan of Raw since it seems to be the same stuff over and over again.
I hope MVP, Miz and some other mid-carders possibly get involved to ruin it.
What about a faction/stable of mid-card wrestlers who are sick of the same old main event wrestlers involved in the title matches? That would be cool. MVP, Miz, Matt Hardy, William Regal, Goldust, Santino, Chavo...Any number of those would be a cool thing. Maybe even have Kofi in it too. Something to spice up the Main Event.
A far fetched idea I'm sure but something needs to be done.
I'm rooting for the Big Show in this one.
Same people except for Big Show being filler. What was the point of MVP saying he was to get into the Main Event. I guess we have HHH pulling his weight again. Back to Mid-card status MVP, BACK I TELL YOU! Not a fan of this idea and not a fan of Raw since it seems to be the same stuff over and over again.
I hope MVP, Miz and some other mid-carders possibly get involved to ruin it.
What about a faction/stable of mid-card wrestlers who are sick of the same old main event wrestlers involved in the title matches? That would be cool. MVP, Miz, Matt Hardy, William Regal, Goldust, Santino, Chavo...Any number of those would be a cool thing. Maybe even have Kofi in it too. Something to spice up the Main Event.
A far fetched idea I'm sure but something needs to be done.
I'm rooting for the Big Show in this one.
okay well lets see ...big show not winning it bc he sucks bottom line, he to big to have a decent program with anyone anymore come on this program with cena i thought sucked...a submission match thats the best they could do with them come one.... cena not gonna win bc he feuding with Miz so miz is most likely gonna get incolved and cost cena the match which will furthre there fued which will end up having them fight a the bash...triple H wont win it until a PPV bc he always has to be on the main stage...so the winning and new WWE champion is randy orton and maybe they will do this reign better... i mean finally they doing something with priceless by givcing them the tag title shot which they should win then they will have the gold and hpefullly take over Raw like they should of done since they first started.
The Archer
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Of the four competitors I think Cena has the best chance of winning. I'm not a Cena fan but that's simply the way I see it going. I don't think that HHH should win it so soon after returning. Nor does it make much sense for Orton to lose the Title only to turn right around and win it again. As far as Big Show winning, there is almost no chance of that happening. My money is on Cena.
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King Patrick Star
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I think this match is great in a way. It puts the four Main Raw Stars, as of right now, in an important match. Logically, I see Orton or Triple H winning this thing, but if Vince is going with shock value here, I think Cena or Show should take it. I personally would love to see the big Show take the Title out of these four men. Cena held it the most as far as days go. Triple H held it the most as far as how many times goes. Orton is annoying as far as annoying goes and we all know he’ll get it again before the year is over. I picked Show because he hasn’t held it in a while or as long or as many times as the other three did. The thing is, if they do give it to Show, the WWE needs to book him in a dominating position and not let him drop it right away, like they do with all the other Titles. I would like to see Show hold the Title for more than a year and just be what he is, Big. Who realistically can beat the Big Show in a match or a fight for that matter?? He could be Face or Heel while Champion, the important thing is, he should be portrayed as the Giant.
Side note, that particular Belt fits Cena. That would be the only reason why he’s my number 2 pick to win this Monday.
Oh, and besides, HHH and Orton really don't need the Strap to feud, because of everything else that has happened already.
Side note, that particular Belt fits Cena. That would be the only reason why he’s my number 2 pick to win this Monday.
Oh, and besides, HHH and Orton really don't need the Strap to feud, because of everything else that has happened already.
I can see it being HHH who wins, he's just returning and his fued with Orton isnt settled and we know how the WWE loves to throw a title into a feud.
However, I am hoping for Big Show to pull this one out the bag. WHen was the last timehe held the belt? He needs it to put him over and further his feud with The Miz and Cena.
However, I am hoping for Big Show to pull this one out the bag. WHen was the last timehe held the belt? He needs it to put him over and further his feud with The Miz and Cena.
how about instead of a boring fatal 4-way that no one cares about, a tournament ala wrestlemania 4. a tourney starting next week on raw, leading up to the championship crowned at the bash. it would be alot better than the four way with the same boring asses. this is a definite way to add some new blood to the title picture. wwe has once again dropped the ball. i mean come on who wants to see hhh vs orton for the 500th time.
Anarchisticism
Dark Match Jobber
This match has absolutely no potential unless it somehow ends in a no contest. That I would love to see. I'm not sure how it would happen or if it even could but that would make the most sense.
WWE is going for shock factor alone. They want everyone to expect Trips or Orton to pull out a win. Cena and Show are just for the sake of adding a bit more confusion as to who will win.
This match ending in a no contest would be the perfect way to add new people into the mix. IMO MVP would be perfect to move up to ME status. The Miz, sadly, is also moving up. Also Matt Hardy, if creative could book it right, would be a great choice to be put in contention for the title.
But since none of this will happen I predict Triple H will get number 14 just cause Vince is his bitch.
WWE is going for shock factor alone. They want everyone to expect Trips or Orton to pull out a win. Cena and Show are just for the sake of adding a bit more confusion as to who will win.
This match ending in a no contest would be the perfect way to add new people into the mix. IMO MVP would be perfect to move up to ME status. The Miz, sadly, is also moving up. Also Matt Hardy, if creative could book it right, would be a great choice to be put in contention for the title.
But since none of this will happen I predict Triple H will get number 14 just cause Vince is his bitch.
I would love the Miz to get involved, get a No-Contest Ending, setting up a 6 way match with Trips, Orton, Cena, Big Show, Miz, and MVP at Night of Champions.
Nate DaMac
Fuck erbody but me
I think it's funny that they aren't even announcing that Batista had to drop the title. At least they didn't on ECW. They just announced the match. I'm really pissed that MVP got snubbed. Regardless, I'm pulling for Show. Just for the pure shock value. If not him, I don't care. Just not Orton again. Please not again.
This match makes no sense. Once again Vince is going for a quick fix for ratings. Making a title change on live tv.
You can make the argument that all of them shouldn't have the belt, but who should hold the belt. I think Orton should, at least he deserves to. He was great til they start booking him so badly. Would it make sense? No, making him drop the belt for a week only to regain it? Then again they did the same thing last year with Jericho with Batista.
Cena doesn't need the belt now, he's hopefully about to get started with The Miz. Big Show winning would be horrible. The guy has lost every match he has been in since the wrestlemania. Triple H just returned, doesn't need the title, but knowing Vince He'll get it.
I really thought they would set up a tournament, with the likes of MVP, and Miz in there to get the rub. Heck if they were going to put the belt on the line this week why not and MVP make it a scramble match and have Miz cost Cena and Show the belt furthering that feud. The have Trips and Orton cost each other, and have MVP walk out champ it would be great and no one would see it coming. Wishful thinking but it would be better than what they have right now...
You can make the argument that all of them shouldn't have the belt, but who should hold the belt. I think Orton should, at least he deserves to. He was great til they start booking him so badly. Would it make sense? No, making him drop the belt for a week only to regain it? Then again they did the same thing last year with Jericho with Batista.
Cena doesn't need the belt now, he's hopefully about to get started with The Miz. Big Show winning would be horrible. The guy has lost every match he has been in since the wrestlemania. Triple H just returned, doesn't need the title, but knowing Vince He'll get it.
I really thought they would set up a tournament, with the likes of MVP, and Miz in there to get the rub. Heck if they were going to put the belt on the line this week why not and MVP make it a scramble match and have Miz cost Cena and Show the belt furthering that feud. The have Trips and Orton cost each other, and have MVP walk out champ it would be great and no one would see it coming. Wishful thinking but it would be better than what they have right now...
Why a fatal-4 way? Why not a tournament, or a scramble....hell if they really want a rating jump....elimation chamber (which is usually good no matter who's in them). A no-contest would be the best here leading to a tournament (KOR?) but knowing WWE creative Orton will be a "viper" and pull a win out of nowhere.
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