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I'll start:
The Young Bucks are terrible. Always have been.
I'll start:
The Young Bucks are terrible. Always have been.
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klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Japanese wrestlers are nothing but a bunch of overrated guys who use FIGHTING SPIRIT as an excuse to never sell a thing.
TootsieBear
Pre-Show Stalwart
I don't have the guts to reply to this thread.... Never mind I found them.
While I find performers like AJ Lee to be hot, and I'm happy the Divas have more air time, with okay matches and stories; I still dislike Woman wrestling. Always have since I was younger. That doesn't mean I can't respect what a lot of them do in the ring, it's just the storylines and feuds are boring to me.
While I find performers like AJ Lee to be hot, and I'm happy the Divas have more air time, with okay matches and stories; I still dislike Woman wrestling. Always have since I was younger. That doesn't mean I can't respect what a lot of them do in the ring, it's just the storylines and feuds are boring to me.
Spidey Revivey
Porn is okay here long as it ain't dudes.
Savage gimmicks are underappreciated. Wish there were more of them in modern wrestling, played for laughs or not.
- Young Bucks are shit.
- Heel Jay Lethal is shit.
- The IWGP Jr. Tag titles are utterly pointless.
- Roderick Strong is bland as fuck.
- Steve Corino makes the Raw commentary team seem tolerable.
- Katsuyori Shibata looks like he's shitting himself. So does Tomoaki Honma. But Honma is actually a good wrestler. Shibata is just another shitty MMA "tough guy".
- People overhype the utter FUCK out of ROH and NJPW when its average most of the time. Except ROH. The TV show is utter dribble.
- TNA is a walking corpse. I'll admit that.
- Most lucha libre outside CMLL and ocassional AAA is actually a mess. Especially WWC. That's a dreadful mess. Which I've watched more than anything else for some reason.
- Wrestling obsessing over social media and MMA has turned it to shit.
justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
You've made all these opinions known in other threads which would indicate that you do have the guts to post them. I'm thinkin' you clearly you missed the point of this thread.
FlexAmerican Dynamite
WZCW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION
NXT is currently the most overrated thing in wrestling and may be in the last five years.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
It is now that Kevin Steen and the Diva's Trio have moved to the main roster. They were the only things that made that show watchable. Fact.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Also Rocky is one of the most overrated pro wrestlers ever. Sure, he's an all time great, but I wouldn't put him on the radar when discussing the very best of the all time greats.
MrHashasheen
Enjoying Wrestling
It's quite a unique psychology, IMO. It's not quite just fighting spirit, but also a matter of pride in some sense. They won't sell until they can't no-sell no more, and the layers of kayfabe involved regarding star power is quite interesting. Can see how it's not everyone's cuppa.
Overrated, yes. Completely shit... depends on if they do too much of their indyriffic style.
Agree. Never seen the appeal, barring Black Machismo.
Agree. Unify with Tag Titles, slim down the cruiserweight division, and just get it over with. Half their heavyweights are barely heavyweights.
No Comment.
No Comment.
Fight me IRL, Killjoy! But yeah, he doesn't give a shit about facials.
Mhm. NJPW stands out because the style and format is very different, but ROH doesn't have that much going for it.
Sadly true.
No comment.
Sadly true.
As for my quiet opinions...
I don't think Triple H is a racist, but if it came out I wouldn't be surprised.
I think TNA was always doomed.
WCW owns WWE, and I weep for the future that did not come to pass.
Paul Heyman is overrated as a creative mind.
So much of wrestling is so boring, that if it was for KB, I'd have dropped out years ago or not got back into it fully.
I care more about Alicia Fox or Layla than the NXT girls, including Paige.
Wade Barrett could have been the next Brock Lesnar.
I'm still not sold on Kevin Owens in the long term.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Much appreciated.
Bernkastel
Reaper of Miracles
Well that is what the Japanese audiences want to see, so you can't fault them for the way they work.
MrHashasheen
Enjoying Wrestling
I've gotten more enjoyment spending three minutes on one of your articles than three hours watching most Raws. Most weeks I just sleep in and read you for the cliff-notes as to what was actually good before I start jumping around and watching.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
That's one of the best compliments I can get.
not the only thing in this post I take an issue with, however most of it's pretty ignorable subjective stuff, but this is just a fucking stupid thing to say
I actually agree with you though that wrestling's obsession with MMA can be massively damaging - though I take no issue with MMA-influenced matches or ex-MMA guys (ones who can work a match anyway), it's when for example supposed WRESTLING commentators are putting over MMA as The 'Real' Thing it really hurts wrestling - GFW's commentary team has got me on edge for this reason.
How so? I find it extremely stupid to watch a wrestling show and then in the middle of it, I get a worked MMA fight. Because 2 guys have an MMA background. I'm sorry. I could've sworn I was watching a wrestling show. If I had any desire to watch two men shoot, I'd watch UFC.
It's a bad taste on wrestling. Everyone knows there's a large difference between the two. But yet, some of the times, comes a guy with an MMA background and guess what? He shadow punches, he does submissions, he's got no appealing ring gear. But he's dangerous. He knows Judo. He knows Brazilian Ju Jitsu. Who gives a fuck?! You're wrestling. That's supposed to be the predominant factor. A UFC fighter should beat a WWE wrestler in an octagon. But a UFC fighter should sure as shit not beat a WWE wrestler in a wrestling ring because it's supposed to be two totally different things. You take that shit to boxing and guess what? All the Muay Thai training amounts to nothing because it's a totally different sport. Why is it a good thing to know all that in the "sport" of pro wrestling where its perfectly normal to jump off the ropes and knocking a ref to use a chair is an acceptable strategy?
5 years? 5 years ago, Jack Swagger was the next big thing.
There's others, I'm sure, but that was the first that came to mind.
MrHashasheen
Enjoying Wrestling
Unpopular opinion: I think he could been far bigger than he got to be, if the WWE didn't hamstring all of their '09 - '13 debuting guys. Him, Barrett, Sheamus, Del Rio... that was a good cast of guys to bring in and put up.
Unpopular opinion 02: You will notice I did not include Drew McIntyre.
I agree on both points. But the point stands that we all knew Swagger was the "next big thing"...and he's not.
Agreed. I think people forget just how flat out awesome Kane used to be. He's certainly lost a step, but if you want someone to teach the young guys how to work a match...there you go.
Big Show is the same story. His best days are past, but that doesn't mean that he can't work a believable feud if the need arises.
Pro-wrestling should be representing all styles of fighting really, if someone's good at kicks let them kick, if someone's a grapple technician let them grapple etc. - it's just the inevitable "this is the real thing" plugging that comes with it. MMA fans on the whole sure don't respect pro-wrestlers so it is dumb that there's wrestling shows desperate to put MMA guys over.
But I have no issue Shibata who is an incredible talent, or anybody else who can work a match for that matter. Just like I don't care if a good wrestler used to be a docker or a barman, long as they can wrestle.
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