During a match? I can't remember if it was always like this or if the wrestler's today just suck at hiding it. I'm not bagging it because I know they have to do it but it just seems like you see it quite a lot during each episode of raw, smackdown and impact. Maybe it's the camera crew's fault haha.
Wrestlers Talking To Each Other During A Match - More Visible Lately?
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The Future Rises
Thinking Of A New Name..
It's called calling spots. And from what I see you rarely see it nowadays cause of the good job the wrestlers do of hiding it. Last time I've seen a match with superstars that had an obvious spot call was something with Cena and Nexus last year. Otunga was pretty green and still is but he obviously told Cena to give him a back suplex while he was applying a headlock on him and the next thing you know.. Cena counters the headlock with a back suplex. Now one Diva I've noticed always calling spots is Alicia Fox. I've seen some of her matches and on some of them she obviously whispers to her opponent which I'm guessing she's telling her what to do now which is spot calling. If she needs to call spots she can atleast hide it.
Stein Lager
Current WWF Champion
Yeah it's more than often enough the workers in the production truck who choose the angles fault, and to a lesser degree the cameramen themselves. They should be trained enough and wrestling savvy enough to foresee a spot call but sometimes I guess they can't help it.. I've noticed John cena seems to always get caught, and also the miz.. I think it was mizs match with Jerry lawler at elimination chamber where you can see him clear as day saying something to Jerry as he pushes him against the ropes for an Irish whip. I think it's quite entertaining looking out for wrestlers communicating during matches. there are a couple compilation videos on YouTube of it.
I got into this younger, at age 6, and I never knew they did this, it was real to me then. But even looking back now at the 90's it wasnt just that, they never made it as obvious as it is now. I saw Cena YELL elbow, LOUD last year in the Chamber I believe it was to Sheamus who gave him an elbow... or was that this year? It escapes me. I think it was this year! Anyway, I see them talking now, you may say it's cause I know they do it now. I use to think that they remembered it all when I did start to learn more, but no. I know all now.
I'm just still not liking the fact that they make it more obvious, and they really do.
You're suppose to hide that better, when you're in a hold, tuck your face into your arm and talk, they do that all the time and it looks better even if you know they're doing it, it's not visible. I mean they hide that less effectively, yet blading is still well done, they are always down and out of sight and blade covering their faces. (Y2J was caught once in the chamber and the referee sliding him the blade can be seen, other times are on youtube too)
I dont even think they blade all the time, once when I was young, I saw The Rock squirting something red on his head and the camera got a shot at the wrong time, it looked like a blood pack. He was in the ring too. I dont know what the hell, I have to look back at every 1999-2000 raw and sd to find it
Anyway if the art of blading can still be heavily concealed then so should spot calling. They need to do better jobs of hiding it, in whatever position they're in. The crowd's noise helps, they just need to not make it obvious. And Wrestling Exposed documentary said they (i guess in the past) wore body mics? what the hell are they and where do they go? I'm guessing that's not done anymore. I dont see how shirtless guys would have that.
I'm just still not liking the fact that they make it more obvious, and they really do.
You're suppose to hide that better, when you're in a hold, tuck your face into your arm and talk, they do that all the time and it looks better even if you know they're doing it, it's not visible. I mean they hide that less effectively, yet blading is still well done, they are always down and out of sight and blade covering their faces. (Y2J was caught once in the chamber and the referee sliding him the blade can be seen, other times are on youtube too)
I dont even think they blade all the time, once when I was young, I saw The Rock squirting something red on his head and the camera got a shot at the wrong time, it looked like a blood pack. He was in the ring too. I dont know what the hell, I have to look back at every 1999-2000 raw and sd to find it
Anyway if the art of blading can still be heavily concealed then so should spot calling. They need to do better jobs of hiding it, in whatever position they're in. The crowd's noise helps, they just need to not make it obvious. And Wrestling Exposed documentary said they (i guess in the past) wore body mics? what the hell are they and where do they go? I'm guessing that's not done anymore. I dont see how shirtless guys would have that.
WWE Ice Cream Bar
Occasional Pre-Show
People forget that in the past Tv's were basically SD quality where most of chatter between the wrestlers would not be visible. Now that they are HD, you can clearly make out when a conversation is taking place. I think they still do a pretty decent job of hiding it tho.
the_vipers_enigma
Pre-Show Stalwart
With the HD almost everything is obvious plus the people who choose what to display on the screen have gotten sloppy if you ask me.And we musn't forget that people know almost every trick in the wrestling so they know for what to look and that's why there is and impression that it's gotten more visible
closet_fan
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Wrestling fans might be called dumb, but most aren't when it comes to stuff like blading and spot calling. Often times when someone gets hit with a foreign object, I will look at what the guy is doing who got hit, even though they want you to pay attention to the guy with the chair, brass knuckles, etc.
It's quite comical when you find the mistakes without even looking for them. Impact and Smackdown can hide this because they are taped, but PPVs and RAW get interesting when someone gets caught.
I guess you can't post youtube videos because I got an infraction before for doing it, but during 2004's Royal Rumble, you can hear Big Show tell all the guys what he is going to do while they are surrounding him and trying to pick him up. He says he's going to go for Cena first then RVD. Sure enough.
The ref even threw the X up because Cena jacked up his knee when he got thrown out.
There is another one where you can clearly hear Cena tell Miz Bulldog, but Miz blocks it with his knee.
And the best one of all is HHH telling Owen exactly what he's going to do in sentences. You can hear that one clear as day.
It's quite comical when you find the mistakes without even looking for them. Impact and Smackdown can hide this because they are taped, but PPVs and RAW get interesting when someone gets caught.
I guess you can't post youtube videos because I got an infraction before for doing it, but during 2004's Royal Rumble, you can hear Big Show tell all the guys what he is going to do while they are surrounding him and trying to pick him up. He says he's going to go for Cena first then RVD. Sure enough.
The ref even threw the X up because Cena jacked up his knee when he got thrown out.
There is another one where you can clearly hear Cena tell Miz Bulldog, but Miz blocks it with his knee.
And the best one of all is HHH telling Owen exactly what he's going to do in sentences. You can hear that one clear as day.
Jesse-Jeniside
Dark Match Jobber
The most recent one I had seen was on this weeks Monday Night Raw with Cena Vs Swagger. Swagger had him in some kind of back hold and Cena was struggling out then you can see Cena lift his head and say Gutwrench Suplex. 2 seconds later Cena gives Swagger a gutwrench suplex.
I do the exact same thing. Its just like with Illusionists. The pretty assistants in the skimpy costumes are there to distract your eyes. If you are watching them, you aren't watching the magician, and it's the magician you need to be paying attention to.
Wrestling is the same way. Watch the person who got hit, not the guy parading around with the chair, 2x4, or whatever foreign object they have. What you will see is the stricken wrestler reach into his tights/trunks, pull out something that is obscured by his hands, usually a small slice of a razor blade, then raise his hands to his forehead to sell the "injury". Wrestler discreetly hides razor again, next thing you know, he is "bleeding profusely" because of the chair strike or whatever. Sometimes, if you look closely enough, you can see them attempt to discard the blade. Not often, but occasionally you can catch them.
As for talking, its more noticeable now, because of two things:
1. Matches are faster paced. Believe it or not, but back in the day, all those headlocks, sleeper holds, and other holds that today's wrestling fans would chant BORING over, served a purpose. When you are in a headlock, with your head down, fans can't see your mouth move. It's perfect for calling shots. Wrestlers have always called shots in the ring, the key was doing it in such a way that fans wouldn't catch you doing it. So, you had to hide the face of the wrestler calling them, usually by doing moves that obstructed a fan's view of the face.
2. Referees with ear pieces. As soon as wrestling organizations started putting ear pieces in the referee's ears, so that someone in the back could communicate directly with the ref, it enabled the ref to relay the information to the wrestlers, essentially allowing the agents in back to call the shots. All the ref has to do is carry on the message. If agents are calling the shots via the ref with the ear piece, wrestlers don't have to do it as much, so they don't learn how to do it discreetly. It's like being a pitcher in the American League. Sure, you hit all through high school, college and the minors, but if you play in the AL, you forget that you were once a .324 hitter, and you don't practice doing it because you don't have to bat, and when interleague play or the World Series comes around, that .324 batting average you had in the minor leagues is now .121, simply because you are out of practice.
UFOcalling
Master of the Scorpion Death Lock
I remember first learning about "spot-calling" when I watched that show on TV called "Exposed! Pro Wrestling's Greatest Secrets" (I had to google it, to get the exact title). That show originally aired in 1998, when WWF & WCW were still having the Monday Night Wars. This was the perfect time for a show like this to air, because pro wrestling was so popular in the late '90s.
I believe that show was part of a series, that also exposed "Magician's Greatest Tricks" (or something to that effect). Regardless, shows of this type were popular in the late 1990s (that's when "reality TV" started to become really popular). I even managed to find the show on youtube, if anyone cares to watch it...it doesn't provide a whole lot of information that isn't now common knowledge (at least in the IWC), but it shows how spot-calling works, blading, the ref's involvement in the match, etc. Here's the link, in case anyone's curious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9u8x0Xrj4A
Btw - the masked wrestler they show around 2:15 in that video looks a bit like Ken Anderson, does it not? You never know....
To answer the title question, I didn't ever notice spot-calling until after I learned what it was (and how it was done). After I learned about it, I started watching for it. Sometimes it's completely obvious (as others have already stated), other times it's hard to catch. Most of the time, spot-calling is done so well that it's damn near impossible to see.
I remember seeing one blatantly obvious spot-call, on Monday Night Raw (this must have been 10+ years ago). Maybe it wasn't exactly a "spot-call", but whatever...the spot I'm talking about happened during a tag-team match between The Hardy Boys & The Acolytes. I remember that Bradshaw (JBL) had Matt Hardy set up for a powerbomb, and the spot must have been for Jeff Hardy to stop Bradshaw by doing a move off the top rope. Jeff took an EXTREMELY long time to get to the top turnbuckle, and Bradshaw was just standing there. Bradshaw was acting like he was about to powerbomb Matt any second, but wasn't doing it yet. At first, Bradshaw was doing a decent job of acting like he was just getting Matt into the "perfect position" before he was gonna do the move. This "positioning" literally went on for like 15/20 seconds, and then Bradshaw got really pissed!
Finally, after what seemed like a lifetime of this "positioning", Bradshaw got frustrated enough to yell "COME ON, JEFF!". He yelled it loudly enough for it to be heard on television! Haha! After Bradshaw yelled this, Jeff finally got his shit together and "stopped" the move by jumping off the top rope. I can't remember the finish of the match or anything, I'm sure it was just a typical tag-team match on Raw. Nothing special about it, just another match.
Obviously this kind of thing doesn't happen very often. It was extremely unprofessional, I'm sure Bradshaw got scolded (at the very least) for yelling like that during the match. Even if the spot was screwed up by Jeff, pro-wrestlers are supposed to "think on their feet" and - most importantly - never break "the third wall" (is it "fourth wall"? ...whatever), or break-character.
Personally, I found the whole situation hilarious (while watching at home). This was the most blatant spot I ever saw called on TV; I never saw anything like that before, or ever again. I imagine that Vince must have hit the roof when it happened, since the show was live. I bet "the boys" in the locker room probably gave Bradshaw quite a hard time about that as well, maybe Jeff Hardy too (for messing up the spot). That was hilarious, and it's the most obvious spot-call I've ever seen.
I believe that show was part of a series, that also exposed "Magician's Greatest Tricks" (or something to that effect). Regardless, shows of this type were popular in the late 1990s (that's when "reality TV" started to become really popular). I even managed to find the show on youtube, if anyone cares to watch it...it doesn't provide a whole lot of information that isn't now common knowledge (at least in the IWC), but it shows how spot-calling works, blading, the ref's involvement in the match, etc. Here's the link, in case anyone's curious:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9u8x0Xrj4A
Btw - the masked wrestler they show around 2:15 in that video looks a bit like Ken Anderson, does it not? You never know....
To answer the title question, I didn't ever notice spot-calling until after I learned what it was (and how it was done). After I learned about it, I started watching for it. Sometimes it's completely obvious (as others have already stated), other times it's hard to catch. Most of the time, spot-calling is done so well that it's damn near impossible to see.
I remember seeing one blatantly obvious spot-call, on Monday Night Raw (this must have been 10+ years ago). Maybe it wasn't exactly a "spot-call", but whatever...the spot I'm talking about happened during a tag-team match between The Hardy Boys & The Acolytes. I remember that Bradshaw (JBL) had Matt Hardy set up for a powerbomb, and the spot must have been for Jeff Hardy to stop Bradshaw by doing a move off the top rope. Jeff took an EXTREMELY long time to get to the top turnbuckle, and Bradshaw was just standing there. Bradshaw was acting like he was about to powerbomb Matt any second, but wasn't doing it yet. At first, Bradshaw was doing a decent job of acting like he was just getting Matt into the "perfect position" before he was gonna do the move. This "positioning" literally went on for like 15/20 seconds, and then Bradshaw got really pissed!
Finally, after what seemed like a lifetime of this "positioning", Bradshaw got frustrated enough to yell "COME ON, JEFF!". He yelled it loudly enough for it to be heard on television! Haha! After Bradshaw yelled this, Jeff finally got his shit together and "stopped" the move by jumping off the top rope. I can't remember the finish of the match or anything, I'm sure it was just a typical tag-team match on Raw. Nothing special about it, just another match.
Obviously this kind of thing doesn't happen very often. It was extremely unprofessional, I'm sure Bradshaw got scolded (at the very least) for yelling like that during the match. Even if the spot was screwed up by Jeff, pro-wrestlers are supposed to "think on their feet" and - most importantly - never break "the third wall" (is it "fourth wall"? ...whatever), or break-character.
Personally, I found the whole situation hilarious (while watching at home). This was the most blatant spot I ever saw called on TV; I never saw anything like that before, or ever again. I imagine that Vince must have hit the roof when it happened, since the show was live. I bet "the boys" in the locker room probably gave Bradshaw quite a hard time about that as well, maybe Jeff Hardy too (for messing up the spot). That was hilarious, and it's the most obvious spot-call I've ever seen.
Look up Ken Shamrock - Slap me on Youtube. This was back in attitude era during the Shamrock Venus feud. You can see and hear clearing Shamrock yell at his sister then say Slap me right on camera. It probably is caught more so now days because better equipment and hd and what not but it has always happened just like wrestlers missing spots and having punches or kicks miss by 6 inches and still falling like they got hit by a mack truck.
closet_fan
Mid-Card Championship Winner
Plus, with the new-age equipment these guys use and the in your face camera angles, the audio feed picks up EVERYTHING in the ring.
HD makes it worse because the sound is so clear, you can hear Cena fart if he's being suplexed.
Someone made a good point that wrestlers with long hair have an easier time getting away with this because the hair covers their face when they talk and blade.
That part with HHH talking to Owen was picked up by the camera audio because it was as clear as day. That's the booth's fault for not switching feeds.
I watched this on YouTube a couple years ago. REALLY good show. If you have time, I suggest watching it.
Some of the stuff might be a bit bogus. I think there was one part where they said the federation itself hands out signs, rather than people making their own.
HD makes it worse because the sound is so clear, you can hear Cena fart if he's being suplexed.
Someone made a good point that wrestlers with long hair have an easier time getting away with this because the hair covers their face when they talk and blade.
That part with HHH talking to Owen was picked up by the camera audio because it was as clear as day. That's the booth's fault for not switching feeds.
I watched this on YouTube a couple years ago. REALLY good show. If you have time, I suggest watching it.
Some of the stuff might be a bit bogus. I think there was one part where they said the federation itself hands out signs, rather than people making their own.
Hollywood Naitch
The current reigning and defending
I could imagine JBL giving Jeff a piece of his mind backstage after that. We all know he is not a guy to keep quiet when he is pissed off with the situation. I would love to have seen im havinga go at Jeff! However, the incident doesnt sound like Bradshawwas at fault at all, it sounds like it was Hardy who was wrong and Bradshaw reacted badly to that,
Usually I never see the wrestlers talking. I know they do, but I do not go out looking for it during matches. When I have gone looking for it, I dont tend to spot it. Sometimes you do catch the odd word, but most of the time they manage to hide it pretty well. I do think to myself "how are they making the match work?" as the guys who have made it to the top in wrestling tend to be skilled enough and professional enough not to blurt out their next move on camera, with the odd exception.
Usually I never see the wrestlers talking. I know they do, but I do not go out looking for it during matches. When I have gone looking for it, I dont tend to spot it. Sometimes you do catch the odd word, but most of the time they manage to hide it pretty well. I do think to myself "how are they making the match work?" as the guys who have made it to the top in wrestling tend to be skilled enough and professional enough not to blurt out their next move on camera, with the odd exception.
I don't go out looking for it but it seems recently it has just popped up and it zooms in as soon as the wrestlers start talking. I notice it with Cena a lot and was a couple of times he was blatantly doing it on this past Raw but it seems that they are always zooming in instead of cutting away so can't blame him for that. It doesn't ruin the match by any means but it can make it look a little silly when it's blatant and the camera shot just stays the same.
UFOcalling
Master of the Scorpion Death Lock
You're absolutely right, from the way I remember the situation. It was Jeff Hardy that fucked up the spot, but Bradshaw's reaction was unprofessional. All I meant is that Bradshaw's reaction (screaming "COME ON, JEFF!") should have been toned down. I mean, it was loud enough to be heard by the viewers at home! Bradshaw could have improvised something to cover Hardy's mistake, but instead let his temper get the best of him.
You're right, I bet Jeff got yelled at in the locker room by Bradshaw IMMEDIATELY following the match! Haha! I agree, I would have loved to be a fly on the wall for that. All I was saying is that I bet Bradshaw caught some heat backstage as well, considering his unprofessional demeanor in the ring that night.
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I forgot to mention in my last post that I rarely see the spot-calling anymore. Maybe it's just because I want to suspend disbelief (by buying into the kayfabe aspect), so I've stopped looking for it. Every once in a while it's kind of obvious, but only on Raw or PPVs (since they're live, and the spot-calling can't be edited out as easily). I remember it seemed more obvious to me during the Monday Night Wars (on either Raw or Nitro).
Hollywood Naitch
The current reigning and defending
Yeah, I agree with you. Sorry, I may not have made myself clear in my last post. I am actually at work at the moment, and its a verrrrrry quiet day in the office (I am currently waiting for my team to provide me with information so I can start directing the project) and I was actually falling asleep when trying to post that message and probably didn't put it correctly.
Bradshaw probably did get a mouthful from Vince backstage, there were ways that he could have handled the situation better. For example, he could have left Matt, gone over to Jeff and "grappled" with him, then quietly reminded him of the spot, then they could have tried it again.
Or, he could have shouted something to Jeff which would have looked like trash talking, but would have reminded Jeff to hurry up and get in position, such as "Say goodbye to your brother!" or something less cheesy.
You get what I mean, anyway!
akrassikauda
#Evil Empire
I remember a Nitro when a spot was called not by the wrestlers but the production truck. It was a Steiner Booker T match and some idiot hit the wrong button and told the ending of the match spot for spot and 1 minute later it goes down Booker T wins. Calling spots has to be done correctly by everyone not just the wrestlers and I do agree that with HD you can see the spot being called but mostly on live broadcasts if you see a spot being called on Smackdown it's because of lazy editing.
MikeyTheAwesome
Occasional Pre-Show
Well there have been plenty of times where wrestlers were seen heard and seen talking to eachother. On the June 13 episode of RAW this year (which I was at), Cena was pretty much blasted by everyone for being way too obvious in calling spots with CM Punk. If you make it too obvious, it can sometimes be unprofessional, but then again when you are performing, you don't know when you're close up on camera.
But sometimes the people in the ring talk to each-other in case they are hurt. For example, at One Night Stand 2008 Orton and HHH had a match where Orton broke his collar-bone and the camera pretty much showed him say "I broke my collar-bone". The announcers even acknowledged it. As a result, the match ended quicker than it was supposed to.
And to Idioteque55, I remember watching that match and asking my Dad why he screamed ( i was too little at the time). BUT, that also happened at the 2002 Survivor series During the 3 minute warning and Bubba & Spike Dudley and Jeff Hardy elimination tables match. Bubba was on the table and Rico was going to do a moonsault right on to Bubba, and was struggling for about 15 seconds before yelling "COME ON JEFF GOD DAMNIT!!". A second or two later, Jeff came on to the apron and shook the ropes causing Rico to lose fall. I just think it was funny because thats another example of someone yelling at Jeff during a match for missing his cue.
For anyone interested, here's a video on wrestlers calling spots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSIaWVGZM2Y
But sometimes the people in the ring talk to each-other in case they are hurt. For example, at One Night Stand 2008 Orton and HHH had a match where Orton broke his collar-bone and the camera pretty much showed him say "I broke my collar-bone". The announcers even acknowledged it. As a result, the match ended quicker than it was supposed to.
And to Idioteque55, I remember watching that match and asking my Dad why he screamed ( i was too little at the time). BUT, that also happened at the 2002 Survivor series During the 3 minute warning and Bubba & Spike Dudley and Jeff Hardy elimination tables match. Bubba was on the table and Rico was going to do a moonsault right on to Bubba, and was struggling for about 15 seconds before yelling "COME ON JEFF GOD DAMNIT!!". A second or two later, Jeff came on to the apron and shook the ropes causing Rico to lose fall. I just think it was funny because thats another example of someone yelling at Jeff during a match for missing his cue.
For anyone interested, here's a video on wrestlers calling spots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSIaWVGZM2Y
Yes, people are completely right its due to being filmed in HD. It was one of the main things that WWE worried about before making the switch to HD because literally everything gets caught and it makes it that much more difficult to hide things like this. I'd say they do a pretty excellent job though, all things considered.
drummerboy144
Dark Match Winner
I didnt notice it either back when i started watching wrestling as a kid i really started noticing it after the change to hdtv and i really noticed cena talking a lot but then as i started collecting some dvd's i started seeing there too, like in the stone cold dvd theres a match vs triple h that you hear them both talking during the match and there's a point in the match when triple h says "get the chair" and stone cold goes outside and gets the chair!! so yea i think once you notice it you ccan go back to earlier years and notice them talking even when you didnt notice it before.
hbkfromccs
finding my smile
I think it could be more visible now a days for a simple reason: hair. Yes, yesteryear's wrestlers often wore long hair that concealed their faces from the cameras/crowd when they called spots. Today a lot of wrestlers have short hair or even crew cuts so they don't have anything to hide their mouths while they talk to each other.
In the old days, it was a lot easier to talk to one another when 90% of the wrestlers had long hair. They could lean in a way where it would cover their face and you would have no idea.
It's 2011 now...and the long hair is pretty much gone. (I even heard Undertaker shaved his head). Now it's a bit harder which is probably why the TS has noticed it more.
Edit: (sorry bud...didn't see your post above mine)
It's 2011 now...and the long hair is pretty much gone. (I even heard Undertaker shaved his head). Now it's a bit harder which is probably why the TS has noticed it more.
Edit: (sorry bud...didn't see your post above mine)
Yes, you can really notice it more now, especially when you have a good pair of wireless headsets on. I Heard allot of it this monday.. Like cena telling him "One more" when he was doing the shoulder bump
Also, get a good pair of headsets, you will love me if you get a pair and watch wwe or tna.
Also, get a good pair of headsets, you will love me if you get a pair and watch wwe or tna.
UFOcalling
Master of the Scorpion Death Lock
This is a little bit off-topic from the original post's intention, but all this talk about "missed-spots" made me think of another really funny missed spot I'd like to share (plus this spot will become relevant to the rest of my post...you'll see, if you take the time to read the whole thing). This one also involves Bradshaw (when he was still an Acolyte). Luckily, this time I was able to find a youtube video of the spot. Someone obviously finds this as funny as I do, since they took the trouble of uploading it.
This video requires a little bit of set-up: I believe this was a match for the Hardcore Title (after the 24-7 rule had been established), between Bradshaw & possibly Hardcore Holly? Maybe Crash Holly? It's hard to tell who it is from the video (and I can't remember who it was, although I did see this live on TV when it originally aired).
This hardcore match had led the two wrestlers (Bradshaw & "the other guy") up to a concession area, where there was a bar. Bradshaw hit (the other guy) with at least one full pitcher of beer (possibly more than one), spilling a shitload of beer all over the floor. Bradshaw had pulled (the other guy) up on top of the bar, and was getting ready to powerbomb him. Here's what happened next:
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Obviously a powerbomb onto that bar would have been extremely dangerous, so they needed someone to show up and stop it from happening. It's just so damn funny that Viscera made the mistake of walking through the puddle of beer too quickly. It's gotta be hard to act "tough" after making a mistake like that, but Viscera did his best. However, the little respect I had for Viscera (and trust me, it was very little) was gone after seeing this happen on live TV.
Bradshaw did a much better job of reacting this time, he pretended that he was still measuring up (the other guy, whoever he is) for the powerbomb while he waited for Viscera to hit him. Bradshaw waited patiently for Viscera to drag his fat ass off the beer-covered floor, and sold the pain from Viscera's attack with the 2x4 like a champ. Even though Viscera slipped (and delayed the match for a few seconds), the wrestlers kept going like nothing had happened at all.
It was soooo hilarious seeing Viscera fall on his ass, but even funnier because he still had to get up and stop Bradshaw from powerbombing (the third guy). I commend Bradshaw & the announcers for not laughing when Viscera fell (because it was freakin' hilarious). There wasn't one smirk, or chuckle...everyone involved remained 100% professional. Well, Lawler probably cracked a bad joke about it...I just can't remember specifically, and the video ends too soon.
Poor Viscera, that was definitely his "Shockmaster Moment". As if wearing a leather moo-moo for every match wasn't bad enough, now he had to live with slipping in beer (and falling straight on his HUGE fat face) on live television as well. God damn, that's hilarious.
After reading your post here, I realized that I may have combined a couple of memories and "invented" the situation I described earlier. It's 100% possible that I may have combined the spot that you mentioned (with Rico yelling "COME ON" at Jeff, instead of Bradshaw), and this spot with Viscera. Haha, now I'm not certain that the match I remembered (and posted about earlier) even happened at all!
All of these memories from past matches sometimes get blurred together, I'm sorry if the spot between Bradshaw & Jeff Hardy never even happened. I was working 100% off of my own memory, so I apologize if the match I described was a fictional account.
It's also possible that the tag match between The Hardys & The Acolytes did happen, and happened exactly how I described it. Maybe it only seems like I might have cooked it up in my head (by combining the Rico spot & the Viscera spot). The spot Jeff Hardy botched with Rico & the spot I talked about earlier with Bradshaw are so damn similar, it's hard to tell...especially because my memory is so hazy for remembering a ho-hum match on Raw from 11+ years ago. If you remember watching the match between The Hardys & The Acolytes happening on Raw as well (the match I talked about earlier), then I guess maybe the spot I described (between Bradshaw & Jeff Hardy) really did happen after all.
I barely slept last night, and I've drank a lot of coffee today! My brain isn't firing on all cylinders right now, please forgive me if I combined a couple of memories (or if all of this is just plain confusing as hell).
No worries, I think maybe my first post was over-complicated and confusing. I have a tendency to over-explain things, haven't you noticed? Haha! I might not have made myself clear either.
You're absolutely right, both of the situations you described would have been a better way of dealing with Jeff being a dumb-dumb. You'd think that Bradshaw would've known better, but obviously Jeff brings out the worst in wrestlers (when he screws up!).
Who knows, maybe Jeff missed a spot or two before that...leading to the frustration of both Bradshaw & Rico (in their respective matches with Hardy)...if the Bradshaw/Hardy spot even happened in the first place! LOL!
This video requires a little bit of set-up: I believe this was a match for the Hardcore Title (after the 24-7 rule had been established), between Bradshaw & possibly Hardcore Holly? Maybe Crash Holly? It's hard to tell who it is from the video (and I can't remember who it was, although I did see this live on TV when it originally aired).
This hardcore match had led the two wrestlers (Bradshaw & "the other guy") up to a concession area, where there was a bar. Bradshaw hit (the other guy) with at least one full pitcher of beer (possibly more than one), spilling a shitload of beer all over the floor. Bradshaw had pulled (the other guy) up on top of the bar, and was getting ready to powerbomb him. Here's what happened next:
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Obviously a powerbomb onto that bar would have been extremely dangerous, so they needed someone to show up and stop it from happening. It's just so damn funny that Viscera made the mistake of walking through the puddle of beer too quickly. It's gotta be hard to act "tough" after making a mistake like that, but Viscera did his best. However, the little respect I had for Viscera (and trust me, it was very little) was gone after seeing this happen on live TV.
Bradshaw did a much better job of reacting this time, he pretended that he was still measuring up (the other guy, whoever he is) for the powerbomb while he waited for Viscera to hit him. Bradshaw waited patiently for Viscera to drag his fat ass off the beer-covered floor, and sold the pain from Viscera's attack with the 2x4 like a champ. Even though Viscera slipped (and delayed the match for a few seconds), the wrestlers kept going like nothing had happened at all.
It was soooo hilarious seeing Viscera fall on his ass, but even funnier because he still had to get up and stop Bradshaw from powerbombing (the third guy). I commend Bradshaw & the announcers for not laughing when Viscera fell (because it was freakin' hilarious). There wasn't one smirk, or chuckle...everyone involved remained 100% professional. Well, Lawler probably cracked a bad joke about it...I just can't remember specifically, and the video ends too soon.
Poor Viscera, that was definitely his "Shockmaster Moment". As if wearing a leather moo-moo for every match wasn't bad enough, now he had to live with slipping in beer (and falling straight on his HUGE fat face) on live television as well. God damn, that's hilarious.
After reading your post here, I realized that I may have combined a couple of memories and "invented" the situation I described earlier. It's 100% possible that I may have combined the spot that you mentioned (with Rico yelling "COME ON" at Jeff, instead of Bradshaw), and this spot with Viscera. Haha, now I'm not certain that the match I remembered (and posted about earlier) even happened at all!
All of these memories from past matches sometimes get blurred together, I'm sorry if the spot between Bradshaw & Jeff Hardy never even happened. I was working 100% off of my own memory, so I apologize if the match I described was a fictional account.
It's also possible that the tag match between The Hardys & The Acolytes did happen, and happened exactly how I described it. Maybe it only seems like I might have cooked it up in my head (by combining the Rico spot & the Viscera spot). The spot Jeff Hardy botched with Rico & the spot I talked about earlier with Bradshaw are so damn similar, it's hard to tell...especially because my memory is so hazy for remembering a ho-hum match on Raw from 11+ years ago. If you remember watching the match between The Hardys & The Acolytes happening on Raw as well (the match I talked about earlier), then I guess maybe the spot I described (between Bradshaw & Jeff Hardy) really did happen after all.
I barely slept last night, and I've drank a lot of coffee today! My brain isn't firing on all cylinders right now, please forgive me if I combined a couple of memories (or if all of this is just plain confusing as hell).
No worries, I think maybe my first post was over-complicated and confusing. I have a tendency to over-explain things, haven't you noticed? Haha! I might not have made myself clear either.
You're absolutely right, both of the situations you described would have been a better way of dealing with Jeff being a dumb-dumb. You'd think that Bradshaw would've known better, but obviously Jeff brings out the worst in wrestlers (when he screws up!).
Who knows, maybe Jeff missed a spot or two before that...leading to the frustration of both Bradshaw & Rico (in their respective matches with Hardy)...if the Bradshaw/Hardy spot even happened in the first place! LOL!