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Wrestlemania 14 all over again

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I was watching Rock via satellite from his home last night and it got me thinking. Why are they building up Rock/Cena so much if they aren't even going to have a match at Wrestlemania? I am loving there work they are doing against each other but I just didn't seem to understand what was the point of it. What are they building to? As I thought about it for a while, it finally hit me. Could this be Wrestlemania 14 all over again?

For those of you who don't remember, Stone Cold won the 1998 Royal Rumble for the second year in a row. He was main eventing Wrestlemania against Shawn Michaels who was the WWE champion at the time. Mike Tyson was announced as the special guest enforcer and was pretty much a member of DX. Mike Tyson and Stone Cold were going at it every week before Wrestlemania and everyone thought that something was going to go down between the two. Instead of an altercation between Stone Cold and Tyson, Mike Tyson screwed HBK over and costed him the title. Stone Cold and Mike Tyson celebrated afterwards.

So, what if they do this with Cena and Rock at Wrestlemania. Rock hits the Rock Bottom on Miz and costs him the title. At Wrestlemania 15 a Star was born in Stone Cold Steve Austin. Sure Austin was big before this but he wasn't quite there yet. Same thing can be said for The Miz at this point in his career. So if they did this it would get Cena and Rock on the same side. It would be shocking, and it would make Miz a star. Everyone would expect an epic clash between the two icons and it would end with them taking out the Miz.

Is this a possibility?

Would it be a good or bad idea?
 
I'm confused. how could having the Miz get screwed out of the championship turn him into a huge star? He is facing Cena so the only thing that would happen with the way you put it is the rock will help Cena. the miz will end up where he was before he won the championship. the only way this would work was if it was The Miz The rock was clashing with the last few weeks not Cena.
 
I don't see how Miz being screwed over by The Rock and Cena will make him "a star" in the same way Austin was? Miz can only become a solidified main-eventer and a star if he goes over Cena whether its a clean win or not doesn't matter to Miz
 
The bigger surprise and what would put The Miz closer to being a big star, would be if he went over John Cena at Wrestlemania. That would probably solidify him to a lot of his detractors.

The Shawn Michaels/Steve Austin/Mike Tyson thing was different. Shawn was the huge star here. Tyson was with DX for weeks and he had a couple altercations with Austin before Mania. Austin got the win clean and all Tyson did was count to 3. It wasn't really a screw job, Tyson did what was considered the right thing.

Miz losing to Cena at Wrestlemania will not have any type of the same effect that Austin had by beating HBK. So, I don't see how it is similar in any way.
 
But get this.... Miz loses because Rock helps Cena out when he hits a Rock Bottom. Alright, Cena walks out as WWE Champion and on the same page as the Rock. All the fans are happy. There are a lot of Cena fans so the majority would be extremely happy in attendence. It would be shocking and would receive a big pop. After Wrestlemania Miz can claim that he should be WWE Champion. Miz will blame it all on Rock and say that he should be WWE Champion still and claim that he would have defeated Cena if Rock didn't get involved. Cena then tells him to put his money where his mouth is and they have a rematch with everyone banned from ringside at Extreme Rules. Miz goes over Cena cleanly at Extreme Rules. It would make Miz look like a credible champion. He would get heat and it would extend the feud between Cena and Miz.
 
The thing is, Miz ISN'T a credible champion. He's a cheat, a scam artist, what The Rock might call a jabroni.

The absolutely amazing tension building between Cena and Rock needs to lead to something much bigger than a weird Miz betrayal. John Cena doesn't need The Rock's help beating The Miz, and to have The Rock.

Furthermore, Tyson didn't hit HBK until after Stone Cold pinned him. After Stone Cold won, HBK started arguing with Tyson at which point Tyson punched him in the face. I don't think it would be out of the question to see The Rock deliver a Rock bottom to The Miz after the match is over, but not during.
 
I bet we will continue to hear harsh words from Rock and Cena, but no action. Somehow the referee will probably get knocked out during the championship match, and The Rock will come down as the enforcer. He will probably rock bottom The Miz and possibly Cena after Cena wins the title. It will probably turn out like Austin at WM20 as a ref for Lesnar and Goldberg. Predictable, but it will send fans home happy I guess.
 
Also to add onto these other points, the build up of Mike Tyson and Stone Cold built up to a swerve. Like you said, Tyson was practically in DX, and was in Shawn Michaels corner, only to knock him out after he lost the championship.

The difference is that The Rock isn't on anyone's side. When did he say he was going against Cena and rooting for the Miz? He talked about whooping the Miz's ass at Wrestlemania too. The only reason they're building up Rock vs Cena is because no one gives two shits about the Miz vs The Rock. I'm sure if it was Cena vs Undertaker or something of that caliber, they would have The Rock going back and forth with both of them. Honestly though the Miz is kind of a lost cause at this point. He's so lost in the Rock vs Cena nonsense that he can't be seen as credible at this point and everyone fully expects him to be destroyed at Wrestlemania.

And yeah, the Rock will probably give a good old Rock Bottom to the both of them, so I really don't see a problem. Everyone's happy after it's all said and done, and no one looks weak because it's the Rock.
 
It is a bit like WrestleMania 14 though there are quite a lot of differences. I think that if the WWE want to create a WrestleMania 14 like atmosphere, The Miz needs to interact a lot more with The Rock. So far Miz has been almost like an afterthought in this feud.

Also the WWE need to play up Rock screwing Cena as a distinct possibility. Till now it has been quite apparent that Rock has no love lost for Cena but there has been no suggestion that Rock may screw Cena or has the power to do anything of that sort.

It's not too bad a comparison but at the moment it looks like too far a stretch.
 
A bit of a mental post is that disturbed. Stone Cold WON the Title at WM14 with Tyson aiding him. How would Miz being screwed (like Shawn was) make him into Stone Cold? Surely that would be Cena!!!

As someone has pointed out, Cena doesnt need Rock to beat Miz. If anything, Rock is going to screw Cena out of the Title and aid The Miz. I wouldnt be suprised if Miz and Rock are in on it together right now.

Rock allowed to trash the biggest babyface and company guy? And come out smelling of roses as the dominant force? Hmmmmm....
 
As many people have said, this will not make Miz into a star. The Tyson thing worked on Michaels side because 1. he was going away with a major injury so it allowed him to lose, take the punch and leave. 2. he was already a mega, mega star so a loss like this didn't hurt him.

Miz is not at Michaels level and unlike Michaels, he needs a great showing to solidify himself in the Main Event scene. WWE want to establish the Youth Movement but they are constantly having new additions and then dropping them out completely a few months later (see: Jack Swagger, Dolph Ziggler, Sheamus, etc.) The WWE have buried themselves, I think, with The Rock's addition into the WWE Title match scene. They have to be careful because the outcome could definitely affect where Miz lands in the card.
 
Honestly, I don't see the connection for the most part. There is the special guest factor, but that's about it. Otherwise, I see this as interesting, but not similar.

The only thing I can see happening is that Cena and Rock continue to bash each other, but nothing happens. At the big event, I can see Cena winning and kind of taunting The Rock. Possibly leading up to some sort of program in the future. However, I don't know about The Rock's willingness to either wait around or come back for next Mania.

Still, I can't see The Rock getting involved in the match unless it's to even some sort of score or level the playing field.
 
I was watching Rock via satellite from his home last night and it got me thinking. Why are they building up Rock/Cena so much if they aren't even going to have a match at Wrestlemania? I am loving there work they are doing against each other but I just didn't seem to understand what was the point of it. What are they building to? As I thought about it for a while, it finally hit me. Could this be Wrestlemania 14 all over again?

For those of you who don't remember, Stone Cold won the 1998 Royal Rumble for the second year in a row. He was main eventing Wrestlemania against Shawn Michaels who was the WWE champion at the time. Mike Tyson was announced as the special guest enforcer and was pretty much a member of DX. Mike Tyson and Stone Cold were going at it every week before Wrestlemania and everyone thought that something was going to go down between the two. Instead of an altercation between Stone Cold and Tyson, Mike Tyson screwed HBK over and costed him the title. Stone Cold and Mike Tyson celebrated afterwards. [/quote]

That was an unpredictable altercation between HBK and Tyson, it was crazy to see, not only that, but it added to the match. Tyson was a huge boost to that match.

So, what if they do this with Cena and Rock at Wrestlemania. Rock hits the Rock Bottom on Miz and costs him the title. At Wrestlemania 15 a Star was born in Stone Cold Steve Austin. Sure Austin was big before this but he wasn't quite there yet. Same thing can be said for The Miz at this point in his career. So if they did this it would get Cena and Rock on the same side. It would be shocking, and it would make Miz a star. Everyone would expect an epic clash between the two icons and it would end with them taking out the Miz.

Austins victory at Wrestlemania 14 put him more over then the entire roster by the way. More so then The Rock, because at that time, he was a IC Champion and HHH started the new DX the very next night.

SCSA after Wrestlemania 14 was blazing fire, so to say Wrestlemania 15 made him would be incorrect.

Would it be a good or bad idea?[/B]

This particular match cannot be built up like that epic match because the dynamic is so much different.

If The Rock turns on Cena making The Miz retain, it would put The Miz over... Sort of. He has yet to retain in a match cleanly.

It's a lose lose in this situation.

At least for The Miz, who isn't as skilled to begin with.
 

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