wow....

Well they made a list of 16 individuals. Some in hate groups, some terrorists. Many of them some real assholes really. And for the ones who had actually done physical acts of violence I completely agree with banning them.

But there was one guy on there who did not fit. His name is Michael Savage and he's merely an American talk show host. He's never done a thing to anyone in his whole life. He might talk some controversial stuff on his show though but that's about it. And he's banned from England because they don't like his politics.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2009/may/06/michael-savage-sue-jacqui-smith
 
Savage is a gigantic piece of shit, but his banning is absurd.

You think the US is going the way of big brother? Some of the shit I read about happening in England is just downright frightening.
 
Well smith isn't home secetary anymore so the list would be void. One assumes the USA has the same sort of list.
 
Savage is a gigantic piece of shit, but his banning is absurd.

You think the US is going the way of big brother? Some of the shit I read about happening in England is just downright frightening.

We do have free speech but yeah it's ridiculousness what the goverment has about us. There's something like more CCTV cameras in London than there is in the whole of the USA and only 2% of crimes are solved using CCTV.

Big brother is truly watching us and I can't see it changing.
 
We do have free speech but yeah it's ridiculousness what the goverment has about us. There's something like more CCTV cameras in London than there is in the whole of the USA and only 2% of crimes are solved using CCTV.

Big brother is truly watching us and I can't see it changing.

Yeah I was about to bring that up, I remember reading about all of those CCTV cameras being installed a few years ago and National IDs and I got the creeps honestly.
 
Savage is a gigantic piece of shit, but his banning is absurd.

You think the US is going the way of big brother? Some of the shit I read about happening in England is just downright frightening.

Right, we don't have to agree with what someone says to agree that they have the right to say it.

Also, modern science is reliant upon freedom of speech as well, because sometimes science finds some controversial stuff out that people don't want to know or don't agree with. And with certain laws in place they could put scientists in jail for telling people an uncomfortable truth.

If we ever lose freedom of speech, we lose freedom of religion (and freedom from religion) and freedom of thought.

But, as long as the people are aware of their rights, and are vigilant in keeping those rights, hopefully America won't go down the dark path England is heading.
 
Yeah I was about to bring that up, I remember reading about all of those CCTV cameras being installed a few years ago and National IDs and I got the creeps honestly.

The ID card thing freaks me out, it's really weird as well as the idea of a national DNA database. Plus so many 'store cards' that keep records on everything you buy.
 
Savage is crazier than Jones. Jones just has the problem of reporting and picking up and supporting every single conspiracy theory he hears. He's like Vince Russo, without a filter he's batshit crazy. He's not always wrong though.

I'm surprised you don't love Alex Jones FTS. I figured you'd have autographed copies of "The Obama Deception" by now.
 
Savage is crazier than Jones. Jones just has the problem of reporting and picking up and supporting every single conspiracy theory he hears. He's like Vince Russo, without a filter he's batshit crazy. He's not always wrong though.

I'm surprised you don't love Alex Jones FTS. I figured you'd have autographed copies of "The Obama Deception" by now.

Well, I haven't been on Amazon.com in a while.
 

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