Why LOSING MITB would benefit for Miz

[Ben-Phillips]

Yeah, it's a funny thought to say that if The Miz, who's supposed to be a future megastar for the WWE, would lose Money in the Bank when he cashed in, it'd help him more than if he succeeded to cash it in. I personally look at The Miz as a could-be, not a will-be. He's great on the mic and he has a different look, so he'd be a good person to market, but he still isn't very good in the ring. The only real improvement he's made was with his ring-psychology.

People still know The Miz isn't a great in-ring talent, but has everything else that one would look for in a main eventer. The reason I think losing Money in the Bank would make the Miz look better than if he cashed in successfully is quite simple. If he cashed in and won the WWE or World Championship, he's just be like everyone else. Punk got the belt the first time and they ultimately failed to make him a star as a face (if they ever intended to, that is). Name one person that has cashed in Money in the Bank and didn't drop-off the scene, at least, shortly, after losing the belt? Even Edge fell out of the main event after losing the belt. Granted, it was WrestleMania time and he was a new main eventer.

Fact of the matter is, if The Miz were to cash in on say... Randy Orton (theoretically speaking) and were to lose, people would think "Ha, the Miz totally sucks. He couldn't win the championship when he had the advantage." And once he'd appear the following night or whatever, he'd just continue to run his mouth about some bogus reason as to why he lost and he can somehow work his way into a legitimate championship match and win.

It's obviously filled with plot-holes, which would obviously be filled out if it were to happen on WWE television, as opposed to some internet mark posting an idea in a forum. But the fact of the matter is, if you want The Miz to be a superstar, making him look like he needed a crutch to get the belt isn't the way to do it. Hell, he'd even go down in history for being the only person to fail (at least thus far, despite it not being a great title to have) to win the championship with Money in the Bank.

In short, if he were to lose Money in the Bank, but win a legitimate championship match, he'd get more of a boost and maybe silence some of his critics, as opposed to if he were to need some stipulation to weigh into his favor to go over... He'd continue to get his awful chants (which will probably never go away) and just continue to be seen as a joke to the casual viewer.

Just a thought.

 

[DeathClutch]

Miz jobbing when he cashs in on MITB? Simply no, that would hurt him for then "benefit" him. However say Miz was to cash in on someone like Sheamus after a match with Orton or someone and after the original match the loser say Orton rolled in the ring and RKO'd Miz causing a DQ but the win for him would "grant" him a rematch this time tho it would be fair not taking advantage of a downed guy, that could work but I seriously doubt WWE would do that, the whole point is to get as much heat on Miz as possible, not make him look like a good guy winning it clean like RVD.

 

[shanners_03]

i have to say i do like the miz in the ring, and his ring-psychology is pretty good, i love the fact he go the push to get the MITB...BUT! and here is the BUT, i totally agree with you, if you look back at the MITB winners and how long they have their titles for its just stupid, edge had his first wwe title for 3 weeks! and then was in a fued with mick foley, RVD was the only guy i could see holding it for a few months and he got suspended, punk's title reigns were pretty lame in my opinion and Swagger....well what can i say i like swagger but that title reign sucked they made him look extremely weak and then have him beat orton! bad writing obviously, so yeah get rid of the MITB hell have a heel challenge Miz for it and then have the heel win dirty, thus not making miz look bad but getting it off him, then have miz go on about how he got cheated *Add heelish behavior here* and he gets his title shot and wins legit, much bigger push and we will all remember it far better than a 3 weeks title reign

 

[sam_k7]

They do need to do something different. im tired of the same old format (ok RVD won clean but it was a ECW thing).
It was genius when edge did it because it fitted his gimmick but now that swagger and punk and kane have done it, im not that impressed it has gotten stale IMO.

So loosing his title matchj could work
as you said plot holes need 2 b filled in but a different "cash in" could improve The Miz aswell as MITB as a whole.

But like i said with Edge, picking up the win on a fucked up champ does smell of a Miz thing to do.

 

[mral82]

It wouldn't benefit The Miz if he lost the cash in as he would be keepin lost in the shuffle if he did plus RVD didn't win cleanly go back and watch it Cena was screwed by Heyman and the only one so far that didn't get a chance was Mr. Kennedy as they decided to strip his case off him instead of letting him keep it while on the shelf that time. Back to the topic The Miz has earned where's at by working for it unlike Randy Orton who shouldn't be in the main event scene and needs to actually lose matches not b!tch and complain to get what he wants. Go you tube The Miz vs Taker that right there proves my point why he should wait and cash in @ Mania plus he should leave the case at home for a while that way everybody has forgotten he has it and when he does it'll mean something then.

 

[No Count Pup]

The Miz would benefit more by winning a world title without the MITB stipulation. I think a champion looks more credible if he wins the title during a scheduled bout. If The Miz is truly the future of WWE, they should book him as strongly as possible. However, I think The Miz would look too foolish by losing while cashing in the briefcase. I think a disqualification would allow The Miz to keep face and force him to win his first world title in a scheduled match.

I would have said that the best use of his MITB briefcase would be if The Miz announced he was cashing in at Wrestlemania. However, since WWE is apparently going to unifiy it's world titles at that event, it is probably safe to assume that The Miz will cash in before Wrestlemania.

I don't think WWE is prepared to put The Miz in the world title unification match at Wrestlemania ahead of such stars as John Cena, The Undertaker, Triple H, and Randy Orton. He is not yet a proven draw. If The Miz does win a world title before Wrestlemania, he'll probably function as a transitional champion.

 

[Fire Marshall Bill]

Actually the Unification match is a really good idea. Not Miz being in it, but cashing in right after Cena, Undertaker, Orton, HHH, or whoever wins it. Talk about getting over, assuming they have him succeed.

But as far as right now, I'm glad they're having him hold on to it for awhile. They really screwed up Swagger by having him get the belt so soon after jobbing to Santino that I've hated him since. His run was terrible and I said it would be from the beginning because it just wasn't believable. The WWE either agreed with me, or just accidentally gave him a shitty run because he got very few decent wins other than Orton. By having Miz hold on to it they can build his credibility and that's what they've been doing. He's been getting a lot of wins lately and they should slowly move him up to bigger faces. He had a good win against Morrison on NXT a couple weeks back.

But with him holding on to it so long, and that helping build his credibility, IMO I think that means him losing his cash in would make him look weak as hell. He's had all this time to cash it in and he's taken advantage with a good amount of wins, then he finally does it at a bad time? Doesn't make sense and makes him look terrible.

 

[ToWhomItConcerns.]

i don't know if it would "benefit" him but i'd be interested in seeing him win the title w/o the MITB briefcase.

how they would go about it? idk thats a good question. ur idea isn't bad at all though.

 

[TheDaneTrain]

I actually kinda agree but also disagree.... This is going to sound random as hell but I think if you wanted to take Miz to another level as a heel... You'd have him say cash it in on the winner of Night of Champions... He wins the match real quick and becomes champ but then every superstar in that match gets up and realizes what has just happened. They all hit their finishers on him so Miz so knocked out and out comes Kaval and cashes in his NXT 2 win... and the next thing you know Kaval is Champ. I know, I know.. it's absolutely ridiculous but think of the possibilities of having a champion who to your regular viewer NO ONE knows... but more importantly.. Think about it.. it gives Miz a re-match title shot.. and he's now known as a FORMER WWE CHAMPION... he'd never let that die....oh and I know plot-holes... But haha anyone who complains about plot-holes is a joke because WWE is one giant plot-hole in itself.

 

[MWRedskins]

Here's my take on this. I think The Miz should NOT lose his money in the bank title match and here's why. It will then either make him A) Forgotten or B) it will make him look bad. Here's what you do. Have him cash in the heel way, beat Sheamus. If everything goes like i think it should Miz will win at Night of Champions. Have Miz then lose his US title earlier that night. Then on RAW have Daniel Bryan challenge him to a WWE title match and then have The Miz BEAT Daniel Bryan and that will make him more credible, then have him take on Sheamus and a face for the WWE title on RAW, have him win, then have him take on a new contender, possibly Randy Orton and have him either get DQed, then have another match where Miz upsets him.

 

[Jack-Hammer]

Overall, I don't think I agree. I think the longer The Miz holds onto the MITB contract before cashing it in, the better it's ultimately going to be for him in the long run. Since The Miz has gotten such a strong push over the course of the past year, particularly over the past few months, the amount of criticism he's gotten has increased. However, that's not unusual as it seems to happen to every young guy in the WWE that gets pushed. The IWC will gripe if so and so doesn't get pushed but, when they do, the criticism starts. Nature of the beast I guess.

As far as The Miz's in-ring abilities, I don't necessarily see anything lacking. If you're someone that prefers spot monkeys that typically sacrifice story and psychology for one high spot after another, then yes The Miz is definitely going to be lacking in your eyes. I don't think it'd kill him to incorporate one or two flashier moves, but his in-ring abilities are very solid in my view.

As for losing MITB once cashing it in, I don't think The Miz is the guy they should start with. The Miz has got the goods overall in my opinion and I ultimately see little benefit from him being the first guy to lose MITB. Don't get me wrong, if he won the WWE Championship without cashing in MITB then I wouldn't complain. But The Miz has it, he deserves it so I really don't see the problem.

 

[sam_k7]

plus RVD didn't win cleanly go back and watch it Cena was screwed by Heyman

Ive seen it a few times.
and by "clean" i mean the MITB winner set a time n date for cashing it in.

Dont b a dick about it.

I actually kinda agree but also disagree.... This is going to sound random as hell but I think if you wanted to take Miz to another level as a heel... You'd have him say cash it in on the winner of Night of Champions... He wins the match real quick and becomes champ but then every superstar in that match gets up and realizes what has just happened. They all hit their finishers on him so Miz so knocked out and out comes Kaval and cashes in his NXT 2 win... and the next thing you know Kaval is Champ. I know, I know.. it's absolutely ridiculous but think of the possibilities of having a champion who to your regular viewer NO ONE knows... but more importantly.. Think about it.. it gives Miz a re-match title shot.. and he's now known as a FORMER WWE CHAMPION... he'd never let that die....oh and I know plot-holes... But haha anyone who complains about plot-holes is a joke because WWE is one giant plot-hole in itself.

I FUCKIN' LOVE this idea. it would b mad for the WWE to put the title on Kaval but its so shockin it could, no scratch tha, WOULD work

 

[XgringolocoX]

I gotta be of the "WTF are you thinking?!" variety. I do agree that I'd be nice for the Miz to do something other than wait for the champ to be beaten down then swoop in and steal the title. However, I think losing the cash in would just suck for his character.
There's lots of rumor that he'll wait til WM to cash in. What if he interjects right before the ME making it a triple threat? Surprise!! AND he doesn't win it over an already beaten champ.

 

[FreezeIzGAWD]

How about this... THE MIZ SHOULD NEVER WIN THE WORLD TITLE PERIOD!

What do U people see in this GUY? SERIOUSLY! I am just flabbergasted... Will someone PLEASE tell me what is so Good about this guy. His look? R U serious? I work at a bar and I see 50 guys a night that look just like him. His PROMOS? REALLY? REALLY? I think that he is so CORNY. I think ALEX RILEY is the same character EXCEPT HE ACTUALLY PULLS IT OFF BETTER! At least he has credentials. Ring work? Mediocre at best... SO WHY R U GUYS AND THE WWE SO INTENT TO MAKE HIM THE NEXT BIG THING? I just don't get it...

Anyway my take have him win the belt and lose it IMMEDIATELY in a BOB BACKLAND 9 seconds match...

THEN SEND HIM TO THE MINORS WHERE HE BELONGS!!!

 

[Ming]

I see what your saying but I don't think he should lose on his Cash-In, in order to not be forgotten he just needs a good title reign with some clean defences. That way he sticks around and could be called to the title scene whenever needed.

 

[mustafa33]

its not just the perfect time for MIZ to win the title.I wanna c him loose the MITB and c him rising against the odds as all big stars do,i think MIZ needs a match a big name wrestlemania e.g MIZ VS CENA or RANDY ORTON or EDGE i personally want CENA, cause i loved their 5 -0 feud last year ,even HHH can pass the torch to the MIZ and think even MIZ looses while HHH is celebrating he comes back into the ring and injure him as we all know HHH always take a vacation after WM so that would be fiiting but tat would be kind of same like last years WM,so if CHRIS JERICHO is still here he can do this he can certainly make MIZ AWSOME.if not then CENA or ORTON or EDGE and no deadman that match is a misfit right now.

another thing i want Miz to add IC title to his bag.

MIZ VS CENA

 

[ECWnumbawan]

I personally dont think Miz should lose his MITB match, itd make him look too weak and possibly b lost into the shuffle again imo.

i think a good way to make miz look strong would to do this, durin the 6 pac match at NOC maybe after like 20-30 mins when the match is on the verge of ending, and all the superstars have hit their finishers on each other and are all down and out for the count. Out comes miz Scull Crushing Finale on cena or orton and wins. The match result would forever say miz beat 6 of the wwes biggest superstars to win the title. just a thought but i think it would be kool to see.

 

[MMK]

I want to see Miz cash in at Wrestlemania. No one has ever done that. Miz's character loves the spotlight, and theirs no bigger spotlight than Wrestlemania. If he's really the future as they say he is, Wrestlemania is the night to do it. Cashing in on tv doesn't have the same effect as cashing in at a ppv like the way Edge/Rvd did the first two times it was done. And Mania is the biggest ppv there is.

I'd like to see them combine the WWE and World title at this years Mania. Then have Miz come down to cash in afterwards. And if the Undertaker were the champion at the time, that would add another layer to it as Takers streak would be on the line in an impromptu match which has also never been done. Even if Miz were to lose the match he would still get a huge pop for trying something no one has ever tried before.

 

[trashboy]

How about this... THE MIZ SHOULD NEVER WIN THE WORLD TITLE PERIOD!

What do U people see in this GUY? SERIOUSLY! I am just flabbergasted... Will someone PLEASE tell me what is so Good about this guy. His look? R U serious? I work at a bar and I see 50 guys a night that look just like him. His PROMOS? REALLY? REALLY? I think that he is so CORNY. I think ALEX RILEY is the same character EXCEPT HE ACTUALLY PULLS IT OFF BETTER! At least he has credentials. Ring work? Mediocre at best... SO WHY R U GUYS AND THE WWE SO INTENT TO MAKE HIM THE NEXT BIG THING? I just don't get it...

Anyway my take have him win the belt and lose it IMMEDIATELY in a BOB BACKLAND 9 seconds match...

THEN SEND HIM TO THE MINORS WHERE HE BELONGS!!!

I agree.. I haven't figured out what everyone sees in him either and I usually like heels.. The Miz just gets on my nerves.. i seriously hope he's the first one to lose the cash in, I mean someone has to lose it at some point.. it's boring knowing that once they cash in, they automatically win it.. so hopefully Miz loses the cash in and then gets thrown back into the midcard where he belongs

 

[MammaJamma22]

He's great on the mic and he has a different look, so he'd be a good person to market, but he still isn't very good in the ring.

Firstly, how is the Miz any worse than the rest of the WWE talent? Virtually all talent do the same 4-5 maneuvers in a match -- nothing stellar. IMO, Miz is no different than Orton, Edge, Cena, etc when it comes to in-ring ability. He has grown tremendously and will continue to do so. When you watch his matches now, you forget he started off as a reality star.

Secondly, Miz losing would probably be too much of a momentum killer right now. He is too hot of a heel right now to lose something of that caliber. We all seem to agree that cashing in on a beat down opponent has become stale. No one really sees Miz being straight forward like RVD and setting a date in advance. What if, however, in the middle of a one-on-one match, he comes out and cashes in -- making it a triple threat. Doing this at Wrestlemania would be....well....awesome. Miz could even pin the other challenger. I mean, imagine Miz cashing in money in the bank and winning the title by NOT pinning the champ -- could give him even more heel heat. That would be three fresh approaches to the MITB. Plus, could lead to a solid storyline between Miz and the ex-champ. Ex-champ could get to the Miz by saying Miz couldn't beat him.

Even if he lost the title a month or so later, I don't think it would derail any of his momentum or credibility as a top guy. I mean, if people are buying Sheamus right now, why not the Miz?

 

[Rampage Bentley]

I think Miz losing would be the most beneficial thing.... for MiTB, not necessarily for The Miz. I think the only way MiTB can continuously work is for it to be shown that it's not a guaranteed title reign, that sometimes the guy with the case just can't get the job done. Will this benefit The Miz? Probably not. But I really don't care. I think The Miz needs to change a few things before he can be main event... namely his name and his finisher.

I agree with the people here who say Miz sucks in the ring, but let's face it, a good number of champions do... well, mostly just Cena. His finisher is really bad though, barely a step up from The Reality Check. He needs to stop using everything Jericho has thrown away.

And his name... The Miz.... it sounds like a bad character from a backyard fed that gets show on public access bimonthly. It's just stupid.

And lastly, he needs some work on the mic. I know everyone and their mom is going to blast me on that one, but hear me out. The Miz is good on the mic the same way Amazing Red is good in the ring, it's flashy and there's some substance but neither know how to use it to tell a story. Miz buries his opponents on the mic, which makes him look like crap whenever he loses. Plus he's in the weird face/heel limbo. Technically he's a heel, but he sucks at it. He splits the crowd too much, heels aren't supposed to have catchphrases to put on T-Shirts, heels aren't supposed to have the crowd chant along with them. Chris Jericho right now is the epitome of a heel.

 

[The Best At What I Do]

I don't like it. I don't like it one bit! But I just might love it!

It all really comes down to how it plays out. Being labeled the first person to lose a MITB cash-in would be a difficult hurdle to get over. But Miz happens to be the guy with the mic skills necessary to pull it off. He could say that he has been getting screwed every time he has tried to cash in and when he finally gets around to it he was too worried about interference to concentrate. He then goes on to trash everyone else who has used the MITB contract to obtain a title and that he doesn't need it and never really did. He then earns a title shot the legit way and can use it as a talking point when he gets the title.

Here's why I don't like it however. All you mentioned was that he loses the MITB cash-in and then wins a legit one-on-one match. Well with the contract he can just make a legit one-on-one match whenever he likes. From that standpoint he can just say when he's cashing it in, in advance, and have his first world title reign without it losing any credibility by having it be over an already weakened opponent.

 

[SpoodBeest]

I don't think him losing his cash in would be a good idea at all. I believe that to keep Money In The Bank as special elevator for mid-card talent I believe that successful cash ins always need to happen. The special quality about MITB is it always leads mid-card stars to their first world title reign. It's what elevates them to main event level and has been the tool that helped carve the success of some stars like Edge and CM Punk for examples.

I believe that when WWE feels the time is right they will have The Miz cash in his opportunity and win. His waters will then be tested as a headliner and over time he will become a natural member of the main event card. Having him lose a cash in will not benefit The Miz and it will not benefit the prestige of the MITB. The tradition of all successful cash ins must stay relevant for the sake of keeping MITB as functional mid-card rising machine.

 

[SillyCheez]

Having Miz lose is just a bad idea to me. He is the next big thing for the WWE. He gets along with management great and does whatever he can for the company. I think he has been in every possible expo/convention on behalf of WWE this year. He truly is showing that he is willing to work to prove himself and be the best he can be at any opportunity. Giving him the title at a major event, in a heel manner, is what is going to elevate him to main-event with his current character. If he is going to lose it, then win legit, they would have to try a face turn to make it work (I.E Orton vs. Benoit).

I think it may happen sooner then we would want it for him though. I want him to cash it in a way to get into Mania, but I don't think they would give him a headline Wrestlemania match without first having a run in the main-event scene, and there isn't TOO much time left to give him a solid run at main-eventing before the road to wrestlemania stuff starts. It's about 5 months until the "road to wrestlemania" stuff starts up.

I think what might happen may be based off of Jericho actually. I think if Jericho ends up staying after contract negotiations, he will have to win the title to keep his "Win or Leave WWE" promise. Miz could have already lost his US title earlier in the night. Miz could then cash on Jericho to cap off the PPV. There would already be 5 pissed off wrestlers from the loss who want another shot, and then Jericho would be one more after that. Who better then Jericho to have his first Title fued with? It could even be a return of face Y2J, since Miz actually gets more heat.

 

[K4P-Unleashed]

I disagree because I only see the "lose then win" method working for a face. As a heel, it would really decrease his credibility and it wouldn't get him nearly as much heat. As far as I'm concerned, the Miz needs to win it like his character sees fit for him to. That being a cheap, phony, easy title win. The part where Miz gains his credibility is during his title reign. If he loses it in 3 months, it's not the kind of title reign anyone would care about. Miz needs to lock that title in for at least 6 months and then lose it to a face who has been feuding with him for at least 2 of those months. Without that, this whole MITB deal with the Miz won't really work in his favor. And this is a Mizmark's POV, so it's not hate, that's the only way I can see it going down.