**Merged** Miz MITB contract Discussion - ALL IN HERE

[FunKay the Inevitable]

With The United States Championship away from him, the Miz can turn his attention towards the upper echelon of the WWE Roster. As soon as Bryan is done feuding with Miz (which I assume is going to be after Hell in a Cell) I expect Miz to focus more on the briefcase.

Miz really does have all the potential to become a major player in WWE in years to come. This situation could well make him, or break him. He showed in his match with Bryan at Night of Champions that he can hang in there with the best wrestlers and his match with Cena a few weeks ago on Raw was very solid. Miz's promo skills are undeniable but he really has to mesh both his promo skills and in-ring work to make a total persona.

Miz is still improving and to me, he isn't ready for a run at the top of the card. I expect him to cash in the contract around about Survivor Series. The and there will, see him become the new WWE Champion. It's up to him from there whether he's the next big star in the company’s history.

 

[ImTheMizAndIM.......]

i actually came up with a great idea today on getting Miz the title... What would be better then having The Miz cash it in at wrestlemania and beat the Undertaker??.. follow along.. Say taker is the smackdown champion and he has a grueling match and continues his streak... then as hes posing to close the show.. the miz comes out of no where.. hits him with the briefcase and cashes in... Can you imagine the heat he would get?? now this all depends on undertaker putting him over.. but i think this is a fantastic idea.. sorry if someone already wrote this i didnt go over all 11 pages of posts

 

[TheMainEvent]

So the big talk lately is that Raw had a record 2 year low rating last week following Orton's title win and against strong competition from MNF and new premieres. From that now rumors have WWE already over Orton as champion because he didn't bring in any big numbers as new champ. Stupid thinking on the WWEs part to blame Orton for their creative failure in the build to his anti-climatic title win, and not to even mention the colossal fail with the Nexus angle that was drawing 3.8 ratings in summer...Regardless with panic mode from these ratings do you think they will pull the trigger and have Miz cash in his Money in the Bank contract to try and spike a rating?

When Edge cashed in his MITB and won the title for the first time it created a HUGE spike in ratings so its a possiblity they might go with. Orton as the face challenger in the chase mode against a top heel like Miz would create some intrigue and might work well for the fall leading into the end of the year and Mania season. I don't know if thats the best idea but with the way things are looking I wouldn't be surprised if it happened at the PPV. What are your thoughts?

 

[TheAbsolute1]

With the Royal Rumble coming up, I had the idea pop into my head that The Miz may win it.

Think about it, If The Miz wins the Royal Rumble and "stalks" the WWE champion saying that he will beat him at Mania and at the very last minute, he jumps shifts to Smackdown! and faces the WHC.

Well The Miz would still be holding the RAW MITB contract thus entitling him to a WWE title shot which he cashes in at the end of the night.

So at Mania, The Miz wins both the WWE and WHC and fulfills the WWE's plans for unification.

Will it happen? Not likely but i felt i needed to share my thoughts.

I didn't put this in MITB discussion or Unification discussion because it was sort of a mixture between the two.

 

[CarlSinclair]

Its obvious they will be uniting the belts... but its highly unlikely it will be the Miz on his first run.

I have a strong suspicion that it may well be

Taker v Cena - Champion v Champion & Streak at Mania.

They have long wanted to do it
Taker has said he wanted Bearer back at the end
Bearer is back

I just think this could be the HUGE money match.. the man who never looses (Cena) vs Taker the unstoppable phenom. I would actually assume Cena wins that match (even though I hope to hell WWE wouldn't ever have Taker loose now)

I just don't see someone as small fry as Miz winning or main eventing Mania at this stage.

 

[The Showstopper]

Bad idea. For a lot of reasons.
I like the miz, flawless mic work and decent in-ring ability, but you are talking about a man who has never main-evented a PPV( although i know he will before this mania). Hell, he has'nt been in a one on one match at mania, and youre talking about giving him both the titles ...just does'nt seem right to me.
As for the unification, i dont think it will happen. WWE has a very large roster and even nowadays, most of the storylines are based on the titles. I dont even think the midcard titles would be unified. The divas and Tag team titles were unified only because the respective divisions werent strong enough for two titles each.
Even if there are plans for unification, i think it will be someone like Cena or Orton who is an established main eventer, and is super over. I dont want to see taker do it cuz i dont like him competing for a title at mania...other storylines require the title more than he does.

 

[Pell08]

I love the idea, but I don't see it happening at this juncture.

However, when the WWE unified the titles originally they did so with the one person that people doubted. Not that Jericho wasn't a star or wasn't main event material, but if you remember the match I know Austin and Rock were in it, and there was another main event caliber person that every thought would win and instead they had Jericho unify the belts and made him even bigger because of it.

The Miz being the unifier(If that even happens, rumors are rumors til I get a true answer) is unlike, but not impossible.

 

[Dyce Morgan]

That would be the worst possible thing that could happen to the titles imo. Above average mic work, decent wrestling ability, never put on a memorable match never held either of those titles and hes never main evented a ppv; you just cant give a guy who is so unproven both the titles and expect ppl to buy into that. The wwe just has so many other guys ahead of the miz who would deserve and be more qualified for that honor....maybe down the line but the miz is nowhere near the level of being the guy to unite those two titles.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I'm posting this so as I can learn from other fans because I have a problem. I have absolutely no idea why so many people jump on the back of the miz when it comes to the future of WWE. It may be just me (and it does seem to be that way but I see absolutely nothing remarkable about this kid in any way, hes par on the mic and in the ring as far as I can see and just because as so many say he has improved greatly, which I've no doubt he has, I don't think that it makes him an option for headlining yet..........maybe down the line but I am aware that I may well have named the reason previously when I said that he is a par mic worker and in ringer because there appear to be so few that have any balance of both of these aspects
E.g. Evan bourne, great high flyer, amazing red of wwe and yet I'm sure that if somebody placed a mic into his hands I would turn off..........mentaly or perhaps john morrison(i personally thought he was a great promo guy in his second infamous tag team but there is no doubt a dramatic drop in his speaking ability but I would put this down to 1) lack of oppertunity - rust and 2) the fact that wwe made his character bland when he became non jim morrison-esque but anyway thats a separate debate), and conversely naturally john cena enough said.
Now with all that said is that the genuine reason for the amount of marks there are for this guy, or is it something I don't quite see, i honestly would like to know, not so I can argyue back but just for curiosity and informational purposes, i don't dislike the guy, if anything I wanna be where all of you are in relation to him so If someone could do me a huge favour and just direct me to bliss in his namesake so I may once again bask in complete misguided ignorance, thank you

 

[RD_21]

I like the idea and it could do wonder to The Miz carreer, as if it will happen....

But like I said it could do him a lot of good, think about it who was the first Undisputed Champion? Chris Jericho, the man who beat Stone Cold and The Rock on the same night, who saw that coming back on the day when Jericho was made to job to main eventer most of the time and to this day the Jericho character can still brag about that in his promos.

@Alex'eddytiger'Waters
I think it started when he was "feuding" with Cena he was SO good and he was saying what everybody and every fan were saying. That Cena fans where probably asleep already since they were all under 12 and things like that so knowing Cena's reputation with the IWC it was normal that Miz gathered a few fan. But he still kept going and he is gold on the mic, the only persons who are better on the mic imo are Jericho and Punk. Sure his match are probably not perfect yet but he is marketable and a heel that his good at his job.

 

[JoeStang22]

The original unification match was done perfectly with just about no one in their minds expecting Jericho to walk away with it. Why not do it again?

The biggest shock in my mind in recent history was Nexus destroying the Raw set as they went off air a few months ago. It made everyone WANT to watch their flagship show the enext week. Same happened with Jericho winning the original unification, everyone WANTED to watch what happened next.

Just giving the Miz the title at a second rate pay per view will just put him in the mix with likes of CM Punk (has he honestly feuded with Big Show for like 7 months or is it just me?) and Jack Swagger, could just be a transitional champion that winds up flopping in a month or two, once again, a wasted opportunity. Now I am not saying I am the biggest mark for Miz or anything to that extent but to just see another round of Orton, Cena, and Sheamus in a circle jerk of title matches to get us to Mania, there is no shock value to that. Giving Miz a shot, a legit shot, not a run in after a title match, will serparate him from the rest of the MITB winners and can set him up to the be THE heel of the company. If the Miz wins the title clean, as Jericho did, and everyone is comparing these guys mic skills as the best in the company, why not let him follow in Jericho's footsteps and make some people physically WANT to watch Raw the following week again.

 

[Dyce Morgan]

@alex your not wrong ppl want to hurry up and give him the all the praise for what hes done, even tho he has done very little....i agree his mic skills are overrated as his "improved" wrestling ability...You have to understand there are some ppl that are big enough fans of the entertainment side of wwe or tna who are willing to acknowledge some one as the future of the business as long as they have a catchphrase....Lots of ppl say its cuz "he's the miz and hes awesome"....i say he should prove it first

 

[BestForTheBusinesso9]

If you are looking for simple ways to unify the belts this makes perfect sense as the way to do it.

I was thinking a little more along the lines of a Smackdown rivalry that doesn't really need the title in it (Undertaker vs. Kane). Lets say Kane is the champion and a few weeks before mania Undertaker lays him out only to have the Miz come down and cash in MITB. This would be after Miz had possibly won the Royal Rumble. Then you don't necessarily have to have the Miz go over at Mania because simply being in the match and having a title before that would be push enough. Not to mention you add that he won the Royal Rumble.

One thing that bothers me is the idea that for some reason an up and coming star couldn't be the next first unified champion. Why is winning this belt any different than winning a regular world title? I've said this before people who are naive enough to still believe that the biggest star holds the world title shouldn't belong to the IWC. In the modern era, world titles are given to people who need a rub off of it. I know some would argue that Orton is the biggest star right now, and I wouldn't necessarily disagree with you. The title is on him for a reason though, the face push is still new and by putting the title on him its a good way to further this push. So with that being said what better way to push a big star of the future than by giving him the unified world title. Not much different than what happened with Jericho the first time around.

 

[Dragonfirez]

Wow! Never thought of this, I think it's a brilliant idea, it'll unify the championships and it'll boost Miz's character by giving him more to boast about because, let's face it, The Miz WILL be world champion in the near future

 

[KitInaka]

WWE has a very large roster and even nowadays, most of the storylines are based on the titles. I dont even think the midcard titles would be unified. The divas and Tag team titles were unified only because the respective divisions werent strong enough for two titles each.
.

I've got to disagree with you there. The problem with the WWE is that the titles have sort of lost there importance. I mean you could take the title away from the Undertaker V Kane match and it's still a major caliber match.

As far as the Miz cashing in, maybe he waits until Wrestlemania and cashes it in after what I hope is the fabled Undertaker v Cena match. It would be a great way jump start a past rivalry that at least I would love to see.

 

[The Deadly Viper]

Don't get me wrong The Miz is "awesome". But he's never held a world title and chances are unless he can back it up, he isn't big enough to do such a major thing like unifying the titles. I reckon Taker vs Cena is a likely bet if they'll be unified

 

[GlobalWrestlingAlliance]

If the Miz wins the title clean, as Jericho did, and everyone is comparing these guys mic skills as the best in the company, why not let him follow in Jericho's footsteps and make some people physically WANT to watch Raw the following week again.

Firstly, Chris Jericho didn't win the Undisputed Championship clean. Booker T interfered in the tournament final against Steve Austin.

Secondly, Chris Jericho was already established with many title reigns spanning nearly a decade.

Now, onto the OP. This is a really good idea and I think it could work if The Miz begins his pursuit of the championship following a well fought loss to Daniel Bryan at HIAC. I believe Orton and Sheamus will continue until HHH comes back, but I can almost see Miz always lurking in the background. If Sheamus lays out Orton, Miz runs in and teases cashing in. Same the other way if Sheamus is champion.

Unfortunately, right now, Miz is on a brand devoid of top faces. Orton's got Sheamus and Cena's got Nexus. Hopefully, after this Sunday, the face situation will be a little clearer and an avenue for Miz's next challenge will present itself. Maybe a program with John Cena, unless Cena's wearing black and yellow.

But that's another post entirely.

 

[rdw]

Its obvious they will be uniting the belts... but its highly unlikely it will be the Miz on his first run.

I have a strong suspicion that it may well be

Taker v Cena - Champion v Champion & Streak at Mania.

They have long wanted to do it
Taker has said he wanted Bearer back at the end
Bearer is back

I just think this could be the HUGE money match.. the man who never looses (Cena) vs Taker the unstoppable phenom. I would actually assume Cena wins that match (even though I hope to hell WWE wouldn't ever have Taker loose now)

I just don't see someone as small fry as Miz winning or main eventing Mania at this stage.

100% agree with you and miz shouldnt hold both belts for his 1st run. i only think that 3 people in the business today should and thats cena hhh and taker. cena vs taker at wm would be huge probably the best match of cenas career. and it would be a rematch from 04 or 05 when they faced off. that match even made sportscenter

 

[RD_21]

Firstly, Chris Jericho didn't win the Undisputed Championship clean. Booker T interfered in the tournament final against Steve Austin.

Secondly, Chris Jericho was already established with many title reigns spanning nearly a decade.

Errrrr.... No, just NO! Jericho may have had like one title run in the WWE and he had to cheat every match and was made to look weak. He was barely a main eventer, always jobbing to HHH and other big name when he won it was the least expected choice in the "tournament".

When I think about it, if Cena vs Taker face to unify the belt at Mania, Taker win and Miz cash in, technically Taker streak would be intact as he was weakened after the match but Miz could claim he beat him at Mania.

 

[Mr. Artistic guy]

I like the idea and it could do wonder to The Miz carreer, as if it will happen....

But like I said it could do him a lot of good, think about it who was the first Undisputed Champion? Chris Jericho, the man who beat Stone Cold and The Rock on the same night, who saw that coming back on the day when Jericho was made to job to main eventer most of the time and to this day the Jericho character can still brag about that in his promos.

@Alex'eddytiger'Waters
I think it started when he was "feuding" with Cena he was SO good and he was saying what everybody and every fan were saying. That Cena fans where probably asleep already since they were all under 12 and things like that so knowing Cena's reputation with the IWC it was normal that Miz gathered a few fan. But he still kept going and he is gold on the mic, the only persons who are better on the mic imo are Jericho and Punk. Sure his match are probably not perfect yet but he is marketable and a heel that his good at his job.

Yeah I think I'd have to agree on that, I think when he was feuding with cena thats my favorite thing I've seen him do to date, not completely convinced that isn't because everybody wants to see cena get screwed over by someone who ate the time probably wasn't even mid-card, but his claim like him being 6-0 with cena, yeah that was quite cool, I have to say

 

[#hamler]

Errrrr.... No, just NO! Jericho may have had like one title run in the WWE and he had to cheat every match and was made to look weak.

Errrr...No, just NO! He was an underdog. Plain and simple. Underdog stories happen all the time. It doesn't make him look weak to win by underhanded tactics. if you say he looked weak by cheating to win, take away about half of Ric Flair's titles and all of Triple H's.

He was barely a main eventer, always jobbing to HHH and other big name when he won it was the least expected choice in the "tournament".

He main evented his share of PPVs now. And I wouldn't call it jobbing to Triple H. More like Triple H beating Jericho while Jericho got the best of him during their feuds.

When I think about it, if Cena vs Taker face to unify the belt at Mania, Taker win and Miz cash in,

Just a rumor. Not made official yet. And Miz cash in at Wrestlemania??? He's not ready to cash in at a regular PPV why would the WWE have him defeat Undertaker with a cash in at 'Mania? No. If he does cash in, he's not going to Wrestlemania with that title.

technically Taker streak would be intact as he was weakened after the match but Miz could claim he beat him at Mania.

Again, it would make Undertaker look horrible. Technically, his streak WOULD NOT be intact. If the Miz cashes in at Mania, against Undertaker, that would mean Undertaker lost at Wrestlemania. Its an official title match.

Overall, Miz isn't going to beat Undertaker at Wrestlemania, nor will he ever! If he cashes in before Mania, he won't go into Mania with the WWE Championship. He isn't ready to carry the WWE on his shoulders, no mater how much you, or I , love this guy.

 

[radec]

the Miz will cash it in on orton and will win the tittle! u imagine Randy RKoing miz and miz kicking out and randy in shock and when randy goes for the 2nd 1 miz reverses in the a skull breaking finale and winning the tittle He can still fued with orton and win!

 

[TheCultClassic]

I had to vote yes on this. However, I feel THe Miz would be better pushed if he lost. Why? Well, having a heel cash in the contract has been done, having one cash it in yet lose, hasn't. It gets more "you lost" cheers, and as long as he doesn't job out when he cashes it in, gets him firm in that title hunt.

 

[Dave]

Right now, I think the Money in the Bank aspect of The Miz’s push has been done pretty well.

All of the things that had to be accomplished for him to mix it with the main event players has happened and I would not be surprised if we see The Miz cash in his Money in the Bank contract at Survivor Series or earlier.

The first thing that had to be settled was the issue of the United States Championship and that has been settled. Daniel Bryan has set out to prove people wrong about him and he has made The Miz tap out with ease multiple times now. The Miz hasn’t looked weak though. In fact, it seems as though a burden has been lifted from his shoulders as he let it go.

The second thing that had to be finished off was the feud with Daniel Bryan. It might not be completely over yet but it is getting there. I can see Daniel Bryan being a very successful United States Champion and putting him over The Miz and Morrison at Hell in a Cell has just showed us how serious the WWE seem to be about getting him over. Plus, it means that the beef with The Miz is pretty much winding down.

All that now remains is for the Miz to take his place at the top table of the WWE. Over the next month or so, I fully expect The Miz to be pushed more than he has been in recent weeks. I say give him a match up or feud with a solid main event guy and allow them to feud for a while. Sheamus wont be doing much over the next month or so, so I would have him feud with The Miz. Allow him to settle into the main event and sooner or later, his cash-in will come.

 

[themiz937]

It has been 7 months since wrestlemania and at every paper view since then i think his goning to cash it in but he hasnt i might just be inpatient but i think he wont cash it in untill january or so next year because i dont think his ready for the world title yet