klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
When I heard her mention it I was stunned. It was like i had no clue what she'd said to me.
Why are Paedophiles...
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justinsayne
Cody Rhodes is an excellant
Umm...How are you gonna watch them if they don't tell you who they are, it's not like they are willingly going to come out and say "Hey, I would like to fuck a minor" or anything along those lines
Mighty NorCal
SHALL WE BEGIN?
I highly doubt that. after you find out you can cum for the first time, thats pretty much the only thing you want to do LOL.
Eternal Dragon
Monster
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Dragon
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
Norcal's right.
Minor League Brian
Master of the Legendary Triple Post
Damn straight he is.
I'm more amazed at how HBK-aholic is responding too all this and completely ignoring what people are saying, and just going off on how "Selfish" they are. She seems to think all pedophiles are child molesters.
I'm more amazed at how HBK-aholic is responding too all this and completely ignoring what people are saying, and just going off on how "Selfish" they are. She seems to think all pedophiles are child molesters.
HBK-aholic
Shawn Michaels ❤
I believe what I actually said is that I wouldn't leave my child with them out of fear. If I knowingly left my child with someone who I knew found children attractive, and something happened, I'd never forgive myself.
What I love is how everyone is taking the moral high ground of saying "I'd treat them equally" when I can guarantee you they wouldn't.
What I love is how everyone is taking the moral high ground of saying "I'd treat them equally" when I can guarantee you they wouldn't.
Minor League Brian
Master of the Legendary Triple Post
Well, no one said leave your kids with them. They're talking about the people who find children attractive, not people luring them into their houses. I'd bet money the pedophiles they're referring too you wouldn't even know where pedophiles unless they actually admitted it too you. You act as if they have no self control, when any straight guy goes through the same shit (girls do too) but last I checked; Not every guy is a rapist or molester. Hell, I'm hopin' those people are in the very slim minority.
HBK-aholic
Shawn Michaels ❤
But this thread is discussing how they should be treated equally. You and I would both say no to a known paedophile babysitting our children. Hence not treating them equally. Which was my original point.
If you don't know that's different. If you don't know, you have no choice in treating them the same. However I believe this thread is discussing the ones we DO know find children attractive. If not, there's no point in the thread.
Minor League Brian
Master of the Legendary Triple Post
I thought it was treating them equally as gays. I wouldn't let someone who's gay watch my kid either.
It comes down to just what you want your kids around, and I wouldn't want them introduced to that world at this time; why? All the hatred they do attract. That'd be more dangerous imo.
It comes down to just what you want your kids around, and I wouldn't want them introduced to that world at this time; why? All the hatred they do attract. That'd be more dangerous imo.
HBK-aholic
Shawn Michaels ❤
Whereas I have a few friends who are gay, and would have no problem in letting them look after my children. I don't believe they'd come to any harm.
Eternal Dragon
Monster
Seriously? That sounds like those people that say J.K. Rowling shouldn't have made Dumbeldore gay because it was wrong of children to know that. *rolls eyes*
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Minor League Brian
Master of the Legendary Triple Post
I figured it'd be taking that way, but its not what I meant. At that age, children are very influential. There's already a bad air surrounding Gay's and their culture. I wouldn't want to introduce my children too that at that point in their life. When they're older, fine. It'd be just like I wouldn't leave my children with a black family before the Civil Rights movement, back when that form of bigotry was running wild.
Again, you all are going to the extreme. I believe DS was referring too the people who find the children attractive, but don't act on them. Should they be crucified for something they have no control over?
And for the record, I <3 Dumbeldore. He was beast.
Not sure if you're joking. Just know that I judged you.
Precisely.
klunderbunker
Welcome to My (And Not Sly's) House
I could care less if the person is gay. I don't care if they hit on me, just not on my son or daughter.
Downward Spiral
I'm Not From Your Country
Hmm, HBK-aholic, would you rather let a complete stranger mind your children, or a paedophile that you knew? The fact is, no one expects you to want to leave your children with a paedophile, because that person is a stranger, and no one in their right mind would do it. However, it is expected that paedophiles aren't singled out (and generalised) as being most harmful to your children. If you knew one personally, your opinion would change.
HBK-aholic
Shawn Michaels ❤
I could probably talk to one. They just wouldn't go near my kids. But many baby sitters are 'strangers' - those 16 year old girls that come and look after your kid while you go out. They're advertised for, are they not? And if someone came to my door, who I knew to be a paedophile, that'd be a no straight away. I'm pretty sure you feel the same.
Seriously Justin, Ninja Turtles at 12? I'm really quite surprised at the reaction people are having to the age of 12. At 12 years old you're in the 7th grade, going onto the 8th. That's really not as young as people think. Most people in my school when I was in 8th grade were already smoking pot, drinking, and experimenting with sex (most not actually doing it; but experimenting). Fuck I was reading Camus at 12 and already had a job.
God. I mean, it's just hopeless, trying to debate with you. You're absolutely no challenge at all; you make it far too easy. Please show me where I even hinted that it's okay to have sex at 12.
And is that difference just as huge between a 15 year old and a 16 year old? Because you can't consent to sex at 15, but you can at 16. Where's this magical maturity fairy that comes along on our 16th birthday?
My point was that 12 is a much more mature age then you seem to think. Puberty has already started by that time; you are no longer a child at 12, you're on the edge of being a teen. You're a young adult as they used to call them at my old school. Though I'm sure you'll misinterpret this as me advocating 12 year olds to go forth and copulate, right?
Oh man, that one really hit the gut. You're right HBK_aholic, I am in fact a 12 year old boy. How'd you ever figure me out? Was it my astounding lack of vocabulary? My limited life experience? My miniscule knowledge of the arts? How ever did you catch me?
Dear god. With every paragraph you top your last; it's actually quite the achievement.
Yes HBK_aholic, that is exactly what I was saying. I believe that all 12 year olds should be raped by adults. Man you've got a keen eye.
Christ, you're logic is so flawed it's ridiculious. So by your logic of "They just don't know any better! Gee shucks!" the kid who murdered someone in cold blood should just be let off easily because "he doesn't know any better!" right? If you're old enough to kill, you're old enough to fuck. Is that me proclaiming that it's okay for 12 year olds to have sex? No. It's me proclaiming that a proportion of 12 year olds are infact mature enough to understand the repercussions of sexual activity.
Yet again, for the ten millionth time, when did I say that it's okay for an adult to have sex with a child? I didn't. Ever. This whole debate came from me saying that a 12/13 year old can be mature enough to know the repercussions of sexual activity. That's it.
But every single post of yours has focused on ONE thing; people who have sex with children. THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT. It's about people who are attracted to children. Again, there is a difference.
A) When did I ever say that there aren't people who abuse children? Never.
B) I never claimed that sexual attraction to children is normal, not once. I did however say that sexual confusion is a common element of human life. Which it is. Who's to say that some weirdo *********ing in his basement to kiddie porn won't outgrow that attraction, marry, have kids, and live a normal life? My point was simply that these are PEOPLE we are talking about. They are NO DIFFERENT from you or I; they're flesh and blood just like all of us. But you talk about them like they're demons sent from hell to destroy all children. I guarantee that most people here have met pedophiles who seemed perfectly polite and normal and whom you never even knew were pedophiles. That was my point. They aren't monsters; they're human. Flawed, but human. Just as we all are flawed.
Then you'd better live in an underground bunker if you have children, because pedophiles are much, MUCH more common then you'd think. The odds are that you have one in your neighborhood right now. I have one a few blocks from my house who we had to be notified about and every thing; I've never even seen the guy in the 2 years since then.
And I already explained what my "theory" as you put it actually means above.
How does it have no place? All of your posts in this thread come out as someone who totally and utterly despises anyone attracted to children. You've said yourself that these people aren't "normal" and aren't like you or I. So my exaggeration makes perfect sense in this context; I'm saying what you're implying.
So if they aren't evil/bad people, then why wouldn't you let your child near them? Bit of a contradiction. I'm not saying we should all go find a convicted child rapist to babysit our children; I'm simply saying that these people aren't so incredibly simple as you make them out to be. How do you know that the pedophile down the street who looks at kiddie porn (but has no contact with children) doesn't cry his eyes out every night and think constantly of suicide because of his attraction? How do you know that he isn't incredibly ashamed and disgusted with himself, but can't help himself? You don't. The world is not black and white, good and evil, right and wrong. The world is full of grey area.
Wow. Just wow. Again, you apparently fail to understand the definition of the word "exaggerate". To say "Because you've got them all from no where" proves you don't understand the word. THAT'S WHAT AN EXAGERRATION IS. It's NOT based on fact; that's what makes it (drumroll please): AN EXAGGERATION!.
Feel free to continue to respond, but I doubt you'll have anything to say worth my time. But if you feel as though you somehow have any ground left in this debate, please feel free to respond.
